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From: J. Paul Robinson j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

Date: Mon Mar 31 2008 - 01:18:05 EDT
From J. Paul Robinson - Moderator

Robert is right - there is too much politics and not enough
science...

What is happening here, is that there are too many cooks.

Let me make it very clear that we work hard to keep this list clean.

It does not always work. When we identify a failure, we usually

respond to the person concerned and don't waste all your time.

We frequently note in our posts, that advertising is not allowed.

This list was developed from 2 or 3 individuals who actually had email
in 1990, to 3000 over the past 19 years.

It did not happen by chance, nor was it overnight.

It was developed with a lot of cost ($$$),

a lot of time,

and

what was a pretty darned good idea when it started.

We don't tolerate people who try to damage the list.

Now that it's highly successful,

there are a number of individuals that are

trying to either circumvent the list, use it

for their own purposes, or simply sideline it.

There are even some proposing that they should be able to manipulate
the list and its contents in any forum for any purpose.

I am really shocked at this rather callous approach to a scientific
discussion board.

I am not making public those individuals or their companies,

but if I am pushed,

I will identify them publicly.

If I do so, and they create havoc,

it could shut the list down - or end up in a nasty legal battle.

I don't suppose that would be popular?

So,

it seems to me, that we need to get back to basics and focus on the
reason this list has been so successful

(and why you all want to use it for advertising - or even why those
who what to hijack it...)

- it does a good if not great job overall.
thanks for your support - all 3000 of you ...well most of you!

Clearly we will provide a mechanism for companies to provide a means
for communication....it's on our list...

Maybe I am getting too old for all this abuse....!

regards

Paul Robinson Purdue University

Robert J. Palmer Jr. wrote:

"Ultimately it is Paul's decision since he

and

his crew do all the work to keep this list

what it is,

but

you need to realize that it is

what it is because it is monitored.........."

Yep - so let the moderator do his work.

I believe the moderator indicated that,

when deemed appropriate, certain

"posters" have been unsubscribed;

the only evidence for this was the lack of
subsequent posts.

A grand announcement of rule violation

followed by a public frog-march off the list

seems unnecessary.

This thread is getting a bit tedious -

maybe those who wish to continue debate could use the subject line

"vendor posts"

the science can be culled from the politics.

Adrian: The only reason it is, as you say,

"occasional announcements"

is because Paul has discouraged this in the past.

Once you open the door by condoning this

practice why should any of the other

vendors exercise any constraint?

Then you are no longer dealing with an "occasional" announcement.

I am sure all of the companies have

announcements they would like to make to

this group about new locations, websites,

services or products,

but that is what marketing budgets are for.

I said previously,

I have no problem with vendors

contributing to any scientific discussions on

the list as I have learned from many

(especially Rick Haugland),

but

announcements of the sort from

Bay Biosciences are marketing.

If everyone thinks this type of post is appropriate then let's be fair

and

let all the vendors have at it and then you'll see how "occasional" it
is.

Ultimately
it is Paul's decision since

he and his crew do all the work to keep this list what it is,

but

you need to realize that it is what it is

because it is monitored

and
commercialism has been discouraged in the past.

"JL"

J. Paul Robinson SVM Professor of Cytomics

Professor of Immunopharmacology &

Biomedical Engineering Director, Purdue

University Cytometry Laboratories President, International Society for
Analytical Cytology

Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories

Bindley Bioscience Center 1203 West State

Street Discovery Park, Purdue University

West Lafayette, IN 47907-2057
Ph (765) 494 0757;
Fax (765) 494 0517
email: j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu

www.cyto.purdue.edu

Join ISAC - www.isac-net.org

Change lives today -

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This could be what He is TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD BUT HOW
WOULD HE HAD KNOWN? FILTERING OUT OUR COMPANY FROM EVERY BOARD AND
FOURM. I HAVE ALL THE POSTINGS!

I am really shocked at this rather callous approach to a scientific
discussion board.

I am not making public those individuals or their companies,

but if I am pushed,

I will identify them publicly.

If I do so, and they create havoc,

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mlinde
Member
United States
11 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 : 6:21:13 PM
________________________________________
I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I
was
wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the
most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and
FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have
any experience with either of these programs? The other option would
be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments,
suggestions?
rakeshverma
Member
United States
93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 : 10:46:54 PM
________________________________________
I have used CellQuest. Its a good option.
Antonio68
Member
Germany
20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 : 11:48:43 AM
________________________________________
You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to
do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is
FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version
for the moment is quite better.
lovesthelab
Senior Member

United States
804 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 : 4:59:46 PM
________________________________________
I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends
with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow
cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at
Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD
relied on Macs for so long.
mlinde
Member
United States
11 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 : 5:44:55 PM
________________________________________
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
lovesthelab
Senior Member
United States
804 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM
________________________________________
quote:
________________________________________
As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and
wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I
found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright,
but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down.
Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC?
________________________________________
Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC
because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for
acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of
those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.
Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion
there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it).
Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail
system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some
more
off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can.
Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM

rgrant
Moderator

Australia
2350 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 02:34:47 AM
________________________________________
Well, it took me about 30 seconds to discover that Mitchell Haynes is
VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html
Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread
yesterday).
--
"I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle
http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg
rwintle
Advanced Member
Canada
4684 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 10:49:46 AM
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AND SOMEBODY TELL HIM TO STOP SHOUTING.
khenwood67
Administrator
United States
247 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 11:03:53 AM
________________________________________
I've deleted the topic that he started, and also deleted his post in
this forum. He won't be posting on the forums again.
Kathryn Henwood
Membership Coordinator
The Science Advisory Board
k.henw...@scienceboard.net
30 seconds to discover that Mitchell Haynes of course they were
searching hard since they are all on the Purdue Cytometry Mail list
marketing the software Developed with the members were on the list
Purdue Controls over 200servers connected to every university and
hospital ect!

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NOTICE! PURDUE CYTOMETRY LABATORIES MANAGES...
FREE SOFTWARE DISCUSSION .......OH FREE TRIALS...LOL
WATCH YOUR MODERATORS RUN THE DISCUSSION NOT MODERATE AND IN MOST THAT
MAIL LIST MEMBERS RUN. JUST ABOUT ALL FOURMS AND USER GROUPS..oops I
used those yelling camps please don't delete or Ban
Scientist Solutions - Flow Cytometry Software Companies License
> Fees ...
> The ScientistSolutions General category provides information to
> Life ... the site will now being managed by the Purdue University
> Cytometry Laboratories. ...www.scientistsolutions.com/index.php?a=topic&t=5084- 78k - Cached

> ***************************************************************************************************************************
> Why should we have to pay a license fee for FlowCytometry Software?
> Isn't expensive enough? Who has the solution? The so Called Free
> SOFTWARE could be better since the cytometers have advanced so much.
> I would like a software that I don't have to rent from the lab for
> 30per hour... Please...I want to buy and own...
> Any Ideas?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 27, 2007, 2:36 am
> marcia
> Adult Frog
> Group: Administrators
> Posts: 135
> Joined: Mar 17, 2004
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This is a good question. Have you posed this question to J. Paul
> Robinson of Purdue University. He has an excellent site
> where Flow users discuss issues like this:http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 27, 2007, 3:46 am
> FlowCytometryUser
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 10
> Joined: Oct 27, 2007
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Purdue promotes Flow Jo and FCS Express which must be licensed... I
> don't have time for people that want to advise in a direction that I
> feel is for personal benifit!
> Do they lease out thier software per hour?
> There is a new Video up on aol that shows a FlowCytometrySoftware that
> looks good.
> Just google flow cytometry software and look for the video
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 28, 2007, 2:45 am Last edited Oct 28, 2007, 2:51 am by
> FlowCytometryUser
> Tony Rook
> Moderator
> Group: Moderators
> Posts: 555
> Joined: Nov 3, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Here is a link to the Catalog of Free Flow Cytometry Software.
> The original Cytometry software catalog was developed and managed by
> Dr. Eric Martz for several years. In cooperation with Dr. Martz, the
> site will now being managed by the Purdue University Cytometry
> Laboratories.
> This catalog strives to be comprehensive -- to include as much free
> flow cytometry software as possible. Some demonstrations of
> commercial packages are also available. Their goal is to provide
> comprehensive educational materials in all areas of cytometry.
> For those of you interested in learning about the risks and benefits
> of using Freeware, here is a link to the Pros & Cons of Free Flow
> Cytometry Software
> .........................
> Tony Rook
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 29, 2007, 12:45 am
> Tony Rook
> Moderator
> Group: Moderators
> Posts: 555
> Joined: Nov 3, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Windows Multiple Document Interface software (WinMDI) is freeware
> designed by J. Trotter (1993-1998; trot...@scripps.edu) to analyze
> flow cytometric listmode data files.
> You can download this software for FREE by clicking on this link for
> WinMDI Version 2.8
> A free tutorial for this software is available by clicking on this
> link - Introduction to WinMDI 2.8 (J. Trotter 1993-1998) for the
> Analysis of Flow Cytometry Listmode Data Files
> .........................
> Tony Rook
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 29, 2007, 12:55 am
> Tony Rook
> Moderator
> Group: Moderators
> Posts: 555
> Joined: Nov 3, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Another great resource for Flow Cytometry on the web is hosted by Salk
> Institute CCMI, La Jolla, California
> Flow Cytometry on the Web
> .........................
> Tony Rook
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 29, 2007, 12:58 am
> FlowCytometryUser
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 10
> Joined: Oct 27, 2007
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I used the New Fcs Cytopro quick facs and it runs like a dream. The
> images are clear and it only took me 5 min to run the whole program..
> I found the website easy since it is listed on Cnet,Simtel,and alot of
> other locations.
> I even saw it this morning on the NY times..
> Why don't any of the schools have this software listed on thier web
> sites?
> I love how easy it is to use.. Im going to stick with this program and
> refer it to all my friend.
> I prefer not to take risks of problems that can happen with the free
> software.. I can afford 150.00.
> Here is where I found the softwarehttp://www.kanecki.com/flowF.html
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 29, 2007, 4:33 am Last edited Oct 29, 2007, 4:42 am by
> FlowCytometryUser
> SO WHAT DOES PURDUE NOT "MANAGE"
> THANK YOU SCIENTIST SOLUTIONS...IS THERE ANY FORUM PURDUE DOES NOT
> CONTROL?
> http://www.scientistsolutions.com/index.php?a=topic&t=730
> Scientist Solutions - LICENSE FEES FOR CYTOMETRY SOFTWARE
> AND ...scientistsolutions provides a forum for discussing cell based
> assays, tissue culture, molecular trafficking, stem cell
> technologies,
> gene transcription and ...www.scientistsolutions.com/index.php?a=topic&t=5288- 7 hours ago -
> http://www.scientistsolutions.com/index.php?a=topic&t=5288
> Group: Moderators
> Posts: 316
> Joined: Mar 4, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This thread is to discuss your experiences with flow cytometry
> software - especially free ones that can be used anywhere (as opposed
> to ones like FlowJo and WinList and CellQuest/Diva that usually don't
> make it out of core facilities!)
> Here's some of the ones I've used for starters:
> WinMDI (free)
> WinList (free trial)
> FlowJo Mac (Free Trial)
> FlowJo PC (free trial)
> CellQuest/Diva (comes with the FACScan/Vatage or LSRII respectively)
> ModFit
> Please include availablity/source and your impressions of the software
> that you use. Impressions of the software listed above also welcome -
> I've to get a new one, and want to factor other user opinions!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Apr 6, 2005, 5:20 pm
> DD
> Froglet
> Group: Members
> Posts: 65
> Joined: Dec 17, 2004
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> samm said:
> This thread is to discuss your experiences with flow cytometry
> software - especially free ones that can be used anywhere (as opposed
> to ones like FlowJo and WinList and CellQuest/Diva that usually don't
> make it out of core facilities!)
> Here's some of the ones I've used for starters:
> WinMDI (free)
> WinList (free trial)
> FlowJo Mac (Free Trial)
> FlowJo PC (free trial)
> CellQuest/Diva (comes with the FACScan/Vatage or LSRII respectively)
> ModFit
> Please include availablity/source and your impressions of the software
> that you use. Impressions of the software listed above also welcome -
> I've to get a new one, and want to factor other user opinions!
> Have you checked with "Guava Technologies"? to find out about their
> software?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Apr 9, 2005, 3:04 am
> samm
> Adult Frog
> Group: Moderators
> Posts: 316
> Joined: Mar 4, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yes. We already have one of their machines, so the software came with
> that. I found the software very user-friendly - more so i guess for
> beginers, but it is rather rigid and inflexible - software such as
> WinList and FlowJo have steeper learning curves, but are super-
> versatile.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Apr 9, 2005, 6:48 pm
> Fujiwara
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 18
> Joined: May 4, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I like the FlowJo and Winlist. However I've been using the CellQuest
> and it give to me anything that I want so far. It don't have the tool
> to adjust compensation once you have the file (as in WinList) but I
> think it would be useless if you adjust properly the compensation when
> you reading the samples.
> The CellQuest could be used anywhere but you have to get the security
> key that comes with the software. The only disadvantage, in my
> opinion, is that those softwares for Mac is mostly running in the
> Classic OS, not yet in the OS X.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted May 4, 2005, 2:37 pm
> Carson O Genic
> Adult Frog
> Group: Members
> Posts: 115
> Joined: Jun 23, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I've been a longtime CellQuest user. Any attempt at using other
> software hasn't worked for me because I'm so used to using CQ.
> Nonetheless, BD's software should be free and not priced at extortion
> levels. They also leave much to be desired in terms of export and,
> yes, OSX use. I'm sad to see them leave the MAC platform for the
> DIVA. The software on those machines is a real dealbreaker for me. I
> tried for a long time to learn it and I still get lost in it. It must
> have been written by someone who never performs FACS and never used
> the old version of CQ. It's way to complicated and user unfriendly.
> I think it is even worse than CQ on the old HP computers (15 years
> ago).
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Jun 23, 2005, 5:38 pm
> w00w00
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 1
> Joined: Jun 26, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nice stuff, thanks for the info guys.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Jun 26, 2005, 4:38 pm
> FlowCytometryUser
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 10
> Joined: Oct 27, 2007
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I have the same frustrations but Found one solution I found on the
> internet. Google send me to a Forum that talked about a software
> called the fcs cytopro quickfacs and claim it is going to be out in
> Java. They Claim there is no license fee and only $150.00 for
> students.
> If you google FlowCytometry Software you will find an AOL VIDEO of the
> software..Looks easy to use and can be downloaded from all sorts of
> sites.
> The demo is free I see the links all over with different articles for
> the software. I Down loaded it last night but have not reviewed it
> yet.
> Good luck.
> Go to GOOGLE
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Oct 27, 2007, 2:49 am
> elia_k
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 1
> Joined: Nov 17, 2007
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I tried FCS express and I think its a very good program. Not CQ style
> but very easy to use. Although it's not free...
> Elia
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Nov 18, 2007, 12:03 am
> samm
> Adult Frog
> Group: Moderators
> Posts: 316
> Joined: Mar 4, 2005
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> FCS Express now adds Multicycle for DNA analysis.
> Reviewing back on the software i've used THIS year (FACSDiva (PC),
> FloJo 6.4 and 8.3 (Mac OS), FCS Express (PC));
> FloJo v8 is probably the most versatile - especially its compensation
> matrix (fabulous if you have say, 6 colors), but also the priciest.
> FACSDiva remains the one with the steepest learning curve and most
> unfriendly unintuitive interface - though its very capable.
> Both FCS Express and FloJo allow for very easy basic analysis, but
> things go uphill quickly after that. FCS Express is fairly capable,
> and have the cheapest educational version - and if you have the Guava,
> getting it is a no-brainer. For one of the more capable all-digital BD
> or Coulter machines, (eg LSR II, Aria) which support a huge repertoire
> of colors and sample types, FloJo might work out better inspite of its
> huge price premium. One bad thing about FloJo is that the PC and mac
> versions are not compatible - I find that pretty ridiculous.
> Haven't used the latest version of WinList, so will reserve comment on
> that.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted Dec 6, 2007, 5:40 pm
> FlowCytometryUser
> Frog Egg
> Group: Members
> Posts: 10
> Joined: Oct 27, 2007
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Fcs Cytopro Quick Facs 11 is very easy to use. It has no Menue Bar
> and can process 10 Million Event files by 40 paramaters. It is not
> listed on any University but can be Purchased at Simtel, Circuit City,
> C/net, BestBuy, and every Major Download site.. The software is
> avaiable in Java 6.0 too.
> With no license fee and contract it is the best deal by far..
> There is no Dongle and works on the PC. It does not have to stay in
> the lab.
> The software Process 24-48,000 files per hour.
> Just google Fcs Cytopro Quick Facs and get your free trial download.
> Great software for only $150.00 for students..
> It is not a JOKE...It is true...
> Free trial...It works for all BD and Beckman Coulter Cytometers.
> Furthurmoore it does not use compensation so all the results are
> true.
> Dual histograms with stats printed on between the histograms.
> I love the software and can not believe it is only $150.00 for
> students.
> PURDUE MANAGES THIS FORUM TOO.......
> Most likely, if you hear Purdue students talking about "spam", they
> are not talking about a meat product (by-product) but junk email.
> Spam
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> * Commercial email
> * Offensive email
> * Political issues
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> > FACE**********FCS PRESS RAY HICKS
> > **************************************************************************************
> > anti) Commercial Posting:)
> > This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
> > From: Ray Hicks <rh...@cam.ac.uk>
> > Date: Wed Oct 13 2004 - 08:43:13 EST
> > Just a quick nopte to let people know that FCSPress is now shareware
> > (no time restrictions or feature reductions for free use, though if
> > you feel like like paying for it you can using paypal). It also now
> > works with Diva export files and runs ok under classic on OS 10.2 and
> > 10.3. I've discontinued FCS Assistant, which has fallen behind
> > FCSPress remarkably, and which failed to run as shareware on some
> > systems (it insisted you buy it or refused to run - FCSPress doesn't
> > even have a nag screen now - pesky things).
> FCSPress is available fromwww.fcspress.com

> > Enjoy!
> > Ray
> > Received on Wed Oct 13 14:38:00 2004
> > This message: [ Message body ]
> > Next message: Mike: "Re: (almost) sterile sorting"
> > Previous message: Hans-Georg.Krey...@merck.de: "Once more: FACSstar
> > plus dual laser to give away (incl. location of the instrument)"
> > Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ]
> > [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
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> > 03:12:04 EST
> > Mr. Apple WEB IS Mario OWNER OF FLOW JO **MORE MARKETING
> > **************************************************************************************
> > Re: mr on Apple web site
> > * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
> > * Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ] [ In
> > reply
> > to ] [ Next in thread ] [ Replies ]
> > From: Robin Barclay <Robin.Barc...@ed.ac.uk>
> > Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 04:17:52 EST
> > Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much -
> > personally I
> > have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their
> > DOS
> > and
> > write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling
> > lab
> > apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different
> > options -
> > not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were
> > too
> > many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way
> > Apple kept
> > the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many
> > different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking
> > Macs
> > the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of
> > Microsoft
> > paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in
> > labs than
> > Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the
> > standard
> > for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if
> > you shop
> > around for the right case if that's important to you.
> > Robin Barclay
> > Beverly Barton **STEERING COMMITY FOR* SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD*****
> > Kanecki Associates Inc Discussion of FCS QUICK FACS 11 DELETED OFF THE
> > SITE!
> > MORE FLOW JO
> > **************************************************************************************----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beverly Barton" <barto...@UMDNJ.EDU>
> > To: cyto-inbox
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: mr on Apple web site
> > > Paul:
> > > I use Macs exclusively. Between home and labs, I have 7.
> > > I hate Windows (I tell everyone, I don't do Windows).
> > > Macs are what Windows wishes it could do. OS X is rock-solid,
> > > especially Jaguar (OS 10.3).
> > > BD guys-get with it and release CellQuest Pro for OS X!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > Oh, and Macs are way more photogenic. They look especially cool next
> > > to your flow cytometer. I just bought a new dual-boot G4 with
> > > flat-panel display for my flow.
> > > Beverly
> > > Beverly E. Barton, Ph.D.
> > > Assistant Professor
> > > Department of Surgery/Division of Urology
> > > UMDNJ-NJMS MSB G519
> > > 185 S. Orange Avenue
> > > Newark, New Jersey 07103
> > > Telephone 973-972-0662
> > > E-mail barto...@umdnj.edu
> > > Telefacsimile 973-972-3892
> > > On Aug 20, 2004, at 2:25 PM, J. Paul Robinson wrote:
> > > > ummm....Mario says..
> > > > "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> > > > probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> > > > Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> > > > this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> > > > have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> > > > paul
> For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace.
> Don't wet your pocket protectors over this.
> - Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
> > > >> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
> > > >>http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/roederer
> > > >>> _______________________
> > > >>> Calman Prussin
> > > >>> Laboratory of Allergic Diseases
> > > >>> NIAID/ National Institutes of Health
> > > >> The information in this e-mail and any of its attachments is
> > > >> confidential
> > > >> and may contain sensitive information. It should not be used by
> > > >> anyone who
> > > >> is not the original intended recipient. If you have received this
> > > >> e-mail in
> > > >> error please inform the sender and delete it from your mailbox or any
> > > >> other
> > > >> storage devices. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
> > > >> Diseases
> > > >> (NIAID) shall not accept liability for any statements that are the
> > > >> senders own
> > > >> and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its
> > > >> representatives.
> > > > J.Paul Robinson, PhD PH:(765)4940757
> > > > Professor of Immunopharmacology
> > > > Professor of Biomedical Engineering
> > > > Purdue University FAX:(765)4940517
> > > > EMAIL:j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > > WEB:http://www.cyto.purdue.edu
> > > > Have you seen our new HCS webpage?
> > > >http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hcs
> > Received on Wed Aug 25 13:58:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
> > * Next message: WThrond...@genencor.com: "Re: dr. mr. on Apple"
> > * Previous message: facs_copy: "Re: Sorting issues"
> > * In reply to: Beverly Barton: "Re: mr on Apple web site"
> > * Next in thread: Mario Roederer: "mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Mario Roederer: "mac vs. pc"
> > * Reply: Howard Shapiro: "Re: mr on Apple web site"
> > *Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
> > This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Fri Aug 27 2004 -
> > 03:12:05 EST
> > Randy T. Fischer**********
> > NIH/NIAMS
> > Mr. APPLE WEB SITE FLOW JO
> > **************************************************************************************
> > RE: mr on Apple web site
> > *
> > From: Fischer, Randy (NIH/NIAMS) <fisch...@mail.nih.gov>
> > Date: Mon Aug 23 2004 - 16:18:55 EST
> > Paul,
> > I know that for a long time, anyone who used a BD flow cytometer had little choice but to use a MAC-data acquisition required it. And, one of the best third party software packages was FlowJo which only ran on a MAC.
> > Mario, being a FlowJock, naturally was heavily exposed to this atmosphere.
> However, most of our other laboratory instrumentation appears to run
> on the IBM clone type of PC-ELISA reader, luminometer, ELISpot
> reader,
> and AFFYMETRIX machine to name the first ones that come to mind.
> Of course because Flow is such a key component and FlowJo works so
> well, we have> MACs (and associated cinema displays) at all of our
> desks.
> So, Mario is probably pretty close as I guess we now run about 50%
> MAC, and for most things they do run better than our PCs for similar
> applications, but mostly the two> platforms tend to be used for very
> disparate applications and we need both. Wish more science companies
> would move to MAC, but as Microsoft probably owns a minority share in
> most companies, that will not likely happen in our lifetimes.
> Haven't read the article yet, but hopefully Mario remembered to cite
> you for all the work on the Flow website/mailing list.
> > Randy T. Fischer
> > NIH/NIAMS
> > Building 10, Room 6D50
> > 9000 Rockville Pike
> > Bethesda, MD 20892
> > (301) 594-3537
> > fisch...@mail.nih.gov
> > Received on Tue Aug 24 16:18:00 2004
> > * This message: [ Message body ]
> > * Next message: Hans Jürgen Hoffmann: "SV: Any suggestion for
> > selection of ICAM-1 (CD54) antibody?"
> > *
> Previous message: J. Paul
> Robinson: "Re: mr on
> Apple web
> > site"
> Maybe in reply to: Prussin, Calman (NIH/
> NIAID): "mr on Apple
> > web
> > site"
> > Contemporary messages sorted: [ By Date ] [ By Thread ] [ By
> > Subject ] [ By Author ] [ By messages with attachments ]
> > This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Wed Aug 25 2004 -
> ***************************************************************************
> **********************
> ***************************************************************************
> *********************************
> FlowJo Announcements
> From: Adam Treister (a...@treestar.com)
> Date: Mon Apr 22 2002 - 00:15:07 EST
> * Next message: b cotleur: "2-me in culture media:summary"
> * Previous message: Geert Raes: "Re: b-mercaptoethanol in
> media"
> * Next in thread: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate --
> Vaccine
> Research Center"
> * Reply: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate -- Vaccine
> Research
> Center"
> * Reply: Michael Dustin : "MoFlo vs Vantage"
> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
> [ author ]
> [ attachment ]
> ________________________________________
> Only two more weeks until ISAC,
> that biennial bacchanalia of flower power and fun!
> So I hope you'll excuse a bunch of blatantly commercial announcements
> to the list, but endulge me this one time and read on.
> At the show we'll be releasing FlowJo Version 4.
> We've got new platforms for overlaying and clustering, we've made it
> work better across theInternet, added all sorts of new conveniences,
> and spiffed it up with the new OS X look and feel. What was already
> the best analysis software in flow cytometry has gotten a whole lot
> better.
> At the meeting,
> Tree Star is proud to be sponsoring the CyberCafe,
> your link to home and responsibility while you're in carefree San
> Diego.
> Check your email, surf the web, download the slides you'll be
> presenting at ten. A cadre of California companies
> has contributed to bring in a premier local roaster to satisfy all
> your latte urges.
> We hope you'll all drop bya nd see what we mean when we say we're
> committed to Java.
> The network is going wireless this year. Just pop a 802.11 card in
> your laptop, and while your
> neighbor plays solitaire through the keynote, you can be reading e-
> mail.
> We're going to open the CyberCafe with the Second Biennial FlowJo
> Users Group Meeting,. Saturday night May 4 at 8PM. The first user
> group meeting was cancelled for lack of interest when
> Dave Novo brought in a case and a half of French wine, so this year
> we're going to try real hard to assemble
> to the point where we can see the show of hands on something before
> we
> disband in search of alcohol. We'll have a whole bunch of Macs
> running
> FlowJo v4 under OS X, and you can bring your own data and get into
> big
> arguments about compensation. Be the first to get the newest FlowJo
> t-shirt.
> All you Windows fans out the**re, come by our booth to see FlowJo
> running on a PC! We'll be previewing the long awaited Java version
> of
> FlowJo.
> We're still not ready to release it, but we'll be giving a peak as to
> what it is going to do.
> For those who haven't found it yet, we've unveiled a spanking new
> FlowJo website.
> Flowjo.com is chuck full of new content, functionality and spunk.
> Automated price quotes, online ordering, a FAQ that will guide you to
> new
> depths of understanding, and none of that awful yellow on black text.
> The
> search engine even works. No ads & cookie-free. Check it out.
> Specifically, you should check our pricing. Prices are going up on
> May 10.
> It has been a number of years since we've changed our prices and with
> the
> development of the OSX and PC versions, it¹s time for a leap. I
> guess
> there's no such thing as a free launch. Anyway, this may be a great
> time to
> buy that FlowJo ten pack you've been thinking about. Licenses
> purchased
> before May 10 are entitled to a year of free upgrades, including the
> 4.0
> release.
> Unleash the flower power!
> Adam
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Adam Treister
> Tree Star, Inc.
> ph: 800-366-6045 intl: 1-650-591-2854 fax: 1-650-508-9186
> a...@treestar.com www.treestar.comThis archive was generated by
> hypermail 2.1.6 : Thu Jan 01 2
> Re: CellQuest
> From: Joe Trotter (trot...@scripps.edu)
> Date: Thu Jul 02 1998 - 17:00:40 EST
> * Next message: Jörg Hildmann: "Re: CellQuest"
> * Previous message: Raffi Manoukian: "Fas-mediated apoptosis"
> * In reply to: Ed Yousaf: "CellQuest"
> * Next in thread: Jörg Hildmann: "Re: CellQuest"
> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
> [ author ]
> [ attachment ]
> ________________________________________
> Dear Yousaf,
> WinMDI reads CellQuest data files because they are in FCS2.0
> format. The header provides the byte offsets for the TEXT portion of
> the
> file and the DATA portion of the file, so it is rather straight
> forward to read a FCS datafile in a platform independent manner.
> For more info see the FCS documentation at
> http://nucleus.immunol.washington.edu/ISAC.html
> If you're asking about getting Mac files to a PC running Windows,
> that is a different issue. Networks make it easy, just be sure
> the files are transferred in a BINARY mode. Without a network, most
> folks find using a PC formatted floppy or other device and utilizing
> the
> Mac's ability to read a foreign disk via PC Exchange, for example, a
> good solution. WinMDI doesn't care once the files are available to
> the PC on a readable device (floppy, ZIP, CDROM, etc...).
> Regards,
> Joe
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2098, Ed Yousaf wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > Silly question time; can WinMidi read CellQuest data and if so how?
> > Many thanks.
> > Ed Yousaf FIMLS MPhil
> > 13 Upton Drive
> > Upton-by-Chester
> > Chester CH2 1BU
> > 01244-383708 (Home)
> > 0114-271-7221 (Work)
> Joe Trotter
> Director, Flow Cytometry
> Mailstop Imm-20
> The Scripps Research Institute
> 10666 North Torrey Pines Rd.
> La Jolla, California 92037
> ________________________________________
> * Next message: Jörg Hildmann: "Re: CellQuest"
> * Previous message: Raffi Manoukian: "Fas-mediated apoptosis"
> * In reply to: Ed Yousaf: "CellQuest"
> * Next in thread: Jörg Hildmann: "Re: CellQuest"
> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
> [ author ]
> [ attachment ]
> ________________________________________
> This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.6 : Thu Jan 01 2004 -
> 17:35:20 EST
> 004 - 17:35:29 EST
> Year 2000 Compliance: ALL FLOW-ERS AFFECTED!
> From: Mario Roederer (Roede...@Beadle.Stanford.edu)
> Date: Tue May 26 1998 - 12:48:49 EST
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ________________________________________
> * Next message: b cotleur: "2-me in culture media:summary"
> * Previous message: Geert Raes: "Re: b-mercaptoethanol in
> media"
> * Next in thread: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate --
> Vaccine
> Research Center"
> * Reply: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate -- Vaccine
> Research
> Center"
> * Reply: Michael Dustin : "MoFlo vs Vantage"
> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
> [ author ]
> [ attachment ]
> ________________________________________
> This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.6 : Thu Jan 01 2004 -
> 17:41:39 EST
>
> I hope you'll excuse a
> bunch of blatantly commercial
> > announcements to the list, but endulge me this one time and read
> FlowJo
> Announcements
> > From: Adam Treister (a...@treestar.com)
> > Date: Mon Apr 22 2002 - 00:15:07 EST
> > * Next message: b cotleur: "2-me in culture media:summary"
> > * Previous message: Geert Raes: "Re: b-mercaptoethanol in media"
> > * Next in thread: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate --
> > Vaccine
> > Research Center"
> > * Reply: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate -- Vaccine
> > Research
> > Center"
> > * Reply: Michael Dustin : "MoFlo vs Vantage"
> > * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
> > [ attachment ]
> > ________________________________________
> > Only two more weeks until ISAC, that biennial bacchanalia of flower
> > power> and fun!
> So I hope you'll excuse a bunch of blatantly commercial announcements
> to the list, but endulge me this one time and read
> on.
> > At the show we'll be releasing FlowJo Version 4. We've got new platforms
> > for overlaying and clustering, we've made it work better across the
> > Internet, added all sorts of new conveniences, and spiffed it up with
> > the
> > new OS X look and feel. What was already the best analysis software
> > in flow
> > cytometry has gotten a whole lot better.
> > At the meeting,
> Tree Star is proud to be sponsoring the CyberCafe, your link to home
> and responsibility while you're in carefree San Diego.
> Check

> > your
> > email, surf the web, download the slides you'll be presenting at
> > ten. A
> > cadre of California companies
> > has contributed to bring in a premier local
> > roaster to satisfy all your latte urges. We hope you'll all drop by
> > and see
> > what we mean when we say we're committed to Java. The network is
> > going
> > wireless this year. Just pop a 802.11 card in your laptop, and while
> > your
> > neighbor plays solitaire through the keynote, you can be reading e-
> > mail.
> > We're going to open the CyberCafe with the Second Biennial FlowJo
> > Users
> > Group Meeting,. Saturday night May 4 at 8PM. The first user group
> > meeting
> > was cancelled for lack of interest when Dave Novo brought in a case
> > and a
> > half of French wine, so this year we're going to try real hard to
> > assemble
> > to the point where we can see the show of hands on something before we
> > disband in search of alcohol. We'll have a whole bunch of Macs
> > running
> > FlowJo v4 under OS X, and you can bring your own data and get into big
> > arguments about compensation. Be the first to get the newest FlowJo
> > t-shirt.
> > All you Windows fans out the**re, come by our booth to see FlowJo
> > running on a
> > PC! We'll be previewing the long awaited Java version of FlowJo.
> > We're
> > still not ready to release it, but we'll be giving a peak as to what
> > it is
> > going to do.
> > For those who haven't found it yet, we've unveiled a spanking new
> > FlowJo
> > website. Flowjo.com is chuck full of new content, functionality and
> > spunk.
> > Automated price quotes, online ordering, a FAQ that will guide you to
> > new
> > depths of understanding, and none of that awful yellow on black text.
> > The
> > search engine even works. No ads & cookie-free. Check it out.
> > Specifically, you should check our pricing. Prices are going up on
> > May 10.
> > It has been a number of years since we've changed our prices and with
> > the
> > development of the OSX and PC versions, it¹s time for a leap. I
> > guess
> > there's no such thing as a free launch. Anyway, this may be a great
> > time to
> > buy that FlowJo ten pack you've been thinking about. Licenses
> > purchased
> > before May 10 are entitled to a year of free upgrades, including the
> > 4.0
> > release.
> > Unleash the flower power!
> > Adam
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Adam Treister
> > Tree Star, Inc.
> > ph: 800-366-6045 intl: 1-650-591-2854 fax: 1-650-508-9186
> > a...@treestar.com www.treestar.com
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Re: FlowJo for PC newest version (7.1) Evolution or Degeneration?
> * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ]
> * Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ]
> [ Maybe in
> reply to ]
> From: <akos.szilv...@novartis.com>
> Date: Wed Jun 07 2006 - 15:40:05 EDT
> Claudine, Joachen,
> Open a graph, format it (e.g. dot plot, stats, etc.) with the tools
> below.
> Than (in the same graph window) go to Edit > "Save State to
> Preferences".
> That will set that graph as a "global" preference, although, only
> some
> of
> the settings. Not the window size. I agree with you: the preferences
> files
> were much more intuitive and clear. I only know this trick because
> Adam
> Treister showed me.
> Let's hope one day the Windows FlowJo will grow up to its Macintosh
> brother
> Best,
> Akos

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> Laura Teodori - Candidate for Biological Cytometry Councilor
> Goals and Objectives
> My efforts, in case of election, will be directed towards the
> implementation of flow and imaging cytometric bioassays within
> several
> emerging environments like immunotoxicology, biotechnology,
> predictive
> medicine, occupational and sports medicine.
> In my view, it is also very important to address problems of
> standardization, quality assessment and quality control in cell
> function assays as they come more and more into clinical use.
> My further interests concern instrument miniaturization and
> development of point of care flow processors as medical and
> biotechnological challenges within ISAC.
> My efforts will also be devoted to the educational work by
> implementing and, if necessary, stimulating the introduction of new
> learning tools as e.g. the advanced information communication
> technology (ICT) for e-learning.
> My activity will also be focused to make ISAC the preferred forum of
> exchange of information and ideas between cell and molecular
> biologists and the individuals interested in development and
> improvement of the cytometric instrumentation and methodologies.
> I support the goals and objectives of this coalition.
> If you vote for me for Biological Cytometry Councilor, please also
> vote for J. Paul Robinson for President-elect and for Bob Zucker for
> Secretary. Together we have carefully considered how we can serve
> ISAC
> as an executive team. We have thought through the issues and we think
> we have good ideas.
> Laura Teodor

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On Aug 20, 2004, at 2:25 PM, J. Paul Robinson wrote:

> > > ummm....Mario says..
> > > "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> > > probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> > > Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> > > this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> > > have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> > > paul
> > >> For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace. Don't
> > >> wet your
> > >> pocket protectors over this.
> > >> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
> > >>http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/ro...

Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: Re: Thanks for the suggestions -
... http://www.wehi.edu.au/cytometry/WEASELv... > > Winlist 3d
from
Verity House Software (www.vsh.com) ... Yes, I live off FlowJo sales,
and that's a blatantly ...
http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/2006... - 8.5KB
71%
From: Adam Treister (a...@treestar.com)
Date: Mon Apr 22 2002 - 00:15:07 EST
* Reply: Mario Roederer: "Job Opening -- Immediate -- Vaccine
______________________________________...
Only two more weeks until ISAC, that biennial bacchanalia of flower
power
and fun! So I hope you'll excuse a bunch of blatantly commercial
announcements to the list, but endulge me this one time and read on.
At the show we'll be releasing FlowJo Version 4. We've got new
platforms
for overlaying and clustering, we've made it work better across the
Internet, added all sorts of new
For those who haven't found it yet, we've unveiled a spanking new
FlowJo
website. Flowjo.com is chuck full of new content, functionality and
spunk.
Automated price quotes, online ordering, a FAQ that will guide you to
new
depths of understanding, and none of that awful yellow on black text.
The
search engine even works. No ads & cookie-free. Check it out.
Specifically, you should check our pricing. Prices are going up on
May 10.
It has been a number of years since we've changed our prices and with
the
development of the OSX and PC versions, it¹s time for a leap. I
guess
there's no such thing as a free launch. Anyway, this may be a great
time to
buy that FlowJo ten pack you've been thinking about. Licenses
purchased
before May 10 are entitled to a year of free upgrades, including the
4.0
release.
Unleash the flower power!
Adam
--
Adam Treister
Tree Star,
Recent FlowJo announcementFrom: Steve Kelley
(SKEL...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 30 1998 - 06:13:04 EST
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I know that many people on the mailing list are adamantly opposed to
anything that even looks a little commercial, and to try to forestall
any possible
complaints about the FlowJo announcement
, I'll explain what
I'd like to see. In my opinion, announcements about new products, and
product updates are completely appropriate as long as they aren't
abused.
I've never wanted to specifically encourage that, because I really
don't want to be put into a position of having to decide whether a
message is an
"announcement"
or an
"advertisement"
. The companies involved in our cytometry community have always been
extremely good 'citizens' as far as I can tell.
We have representatives of many companies on the list, and they have
always had the power to make my life miserable, and the list no more
than junk mail. Instead, they have helped build this mailing list
into one of the most useful around, through their contributions and
responses. I'm not going to try to set specific rules about what
people can say about their own products, and when they can say it.
I'll just ask that everyone continue to show restraint; that the
commercial representatives ask themselves before they submit an
announcement whether they'd mind seeing every other company in the
business sending the same message they are about to, and that the
non-
commercial (and anti-commercial) people accept discreet announcements
as simple information, and continue the sometimes brisk discussions
about problems and benefits of particular products, alongside the
purely scientific (and occasionally purely entertaining)
conversation.
Steve Steve Kelley
kel...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories (765) 494-0757 --
voiceB050 Hansen LSRB, Purdue University (765) 494-0517 --
faxWest Lafayette, Indiana, 47907 -- End --
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From: Benjamin C. Hunsberge (75450....@compuserve.com) ... Due to
continued growth, Verity Software House, a flow cytometry software
manufacturer, ...
www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/1995/0914... - 5k - Cached - Similar
pages - Note this

Purdue Cytometry Mailing List: Apoptosis with Modfit
From: Benjamin C. Hunsberge (75450....@compuserve.com) ... Sincerely,
Ben Hunsberger General Manager Verity Software House ...
www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/1995/1372... - 7k - Cached - Similar
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More results from www.cyto.purdue.edu »

J. Paul Robinson
<jpr_at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
ViewMonday, November 19, 2007 2:14:38 PM
To:Larry Farrell <farrlarr_at_isu.edu>; mitchell haynes
<buybroker_at_yahoo.com>;
skelley_at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu; Bartek Rajwa
rajwa_at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Larry
Sorry you are experiencing a problem

>From the header - This is apparently coming from a Mitchel Haynes

mitchell haynes <buybroker_at_yahoo.com> - is this correct?
I initially thought messages coming from this person were a scam and
challenged them when they started posting to our list as well. I had
someone do a check on them. it is apparent that they have written
some
software and they think its ants-pants. They have tried to post
things
on the Purdue list, they have used every possible website and email
discussion group to get cross listed to boost their ratings on
Google.
Basically I view their behavior as very tenuous and from the message
you
sent me, it appears that it is not appropriate to do what they are
doing...
I have taken the following action:
Steve Kelley has been instructed to remove their email and any
postings on the Purdue list. They are now banned
2. I am going to Copying Bartek Rajwa the editor of the ISAC site to
beware of them
3. I am contacting Google and other sites to let them know that these
people are self-propagating links.
4. If I see any message that in any way impunes Purdue or our
reputation, I will go after them with every possible legal recourse
at
my disposal. We will not allow our reputation to suffer because of
commercial abuse.
5. You should ban this address, and basically indicate to your
members
that this is a scam. While they claim to be legitimate, they are
acting
exactly as any scam artist...I already told them that they were
acting
as scammers and they got upset with me...well, if they don't desist,
they will find out how much influence we actually have...
I will check the message

> Subject: flow cytometry software will you trust Purdue..Lets play

MONOPOLY

> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:38:56 -0800 (PST)
> Organization: http://groups.google.com

and see if this is actually libelous - it appears to be - and if it
is,
I will close this person down really, really fast!!! (Steve please
check
out this message and make a copy)
Larry, we have about 3000 people on the Purdue discussion list which
is
primarily about cytometry - and a lot of flow cytometry - to join,
people actually have to go through me, and we review every person who
comes on.
I am sorry you are experiencing this problem, and we are happy to
help
in any way we can.
regards
paul Robinson
Professor, Purdue
Advertising
From: Mario Roederer (roede...@drmr.com)
Date: Fri Nov 01 2002 - 16:46:47 EST
* Next message: William Telford: "Re: Fluorochromes choice"
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[ attachment ]
________________________________________
I agree that there have been far too many commercial-oriented emails
on the list. I appreciate the efforts of most manufacturers to
withhold from advertising on this list (plus, of course, the efforts
of Steve & Paul to filter those out).
The list, which is an outstanding forum for exchange of information,
has been occasionally used to identify substantially new products
which can significantly impact on how we do experiments. I feel that
the Molecular Probes email of 10/30 clearly does not fall into this
category; the new product advertised was no more than a slight
modification of the existing one. Such an email should be directed
solely to the person requesting information; if that person then
collates responses and puts it back on the list then so be it. But
for manufacturers to directly respond in this way is
counter-productive to the goals of this list.
I would like to propose a 6-month moratorium on all emails that are
no more than advertisements. Note that I write "would like
to"--because I'm not sure that this is possible. I don't want to put
any additional onus on Steve or Paul to filter out the borderline
emails. While these may be easy to identify when they come from
manufacturers, it could just as well be considered blatant
advertising when they come from a user.
Therefore, perhaps we can see if the commercial participants on this
list could exercise self-restraint rather than requesting a formal
censorship of advertising emails.
Thus, if you are a manufacturer, and you are responding to somebody's
request for information, do so privately to that person ONLY. It is
up to the person requesting information to decide whether or not the
information received in response to the query warrants a summary on
the list.
If you are not a manufacturer, and are responding to somebody's
request for specific information, please consider whether your
response (that identifies a specific product or manufacturer) is of
general enough interest to warrant the list. If it does not, then
simply send it privately to the person who requested information, and
let them decide whether to post the summary of responses.
In general, I urge people to err on the side of caution and send
their information only to the person who requested it. Realize that
if several people want the same information, they can always request
it from the original poster! I have posted queries to the list;
people have sent me emails asking me to forward to them the
responses, which I did.
This process can significantly cut down on emails that might be
viewed as too commercial.
mr
________________________________________
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* Maybe reply: Penney Robbins: "RE: Advertising"
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From: Marcia Woda (Marcia.W
...
@banyan.ummed.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 30 1998 - 15:23:58 EST
* Next message: J.Paul Robinson: "1998 was a good year"
* Previous message: Steve Kelley: "Possible minor disruption"
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[ author ]
[ attachment ]
________________________________________
Why couldn't commercial parties make a short statement via this list
to
direct interested viewers to their company's Web site to look at new
products, updates, etc.
________________________________________
* Next message: J.Paul Robinson: "1998 was a good year"
* Previous message: Steve Kelley: "Possible minor disruption"
* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
[ author ]
[ attachment ]
________________________________________
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Latest FlowJo focuses on presentation graphics
From: Adam Treister (a...@treestar.com)
Date: Tue Dec 29 1998 - 10:34:17 EST
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________________________________________
There's a new version of FlowJo now available on our web site. Since
its
initial public release eighteen months ago, FlowJo has had the
reputation
that it is very powerful in its batch processing, but didn't have
enough
page layout capabilities to create publication quality reports
without
an
intermediate drawing program. This release adds all those
capabilities.
We've added histogram overlays, colored dot plots, more and more
flexible
statistics, a palette of annotation tools, and a custom print preview
window to position as many graphs on a page as you wish, without
fighting
the printer's page breaks. Or if you don't want to print to paper,
we'll
produce slide shows, animations or web pages directly from FlowJo's
layout
editor.
In addition, we've added a DNA / Cell Cycle platform to our Kinetics,
Compensation and Calibration tools. This new platform will fit
multiple
models to the histogram, and let you tailor the models' constraints
interactively. Because its built into FlowJo, you can easily combine
these
analyses with other phenotyping and batch analyses.
We encourage you to go take a look at: http://www.treestar.com/flowjo
For the full list of features:
http://www.treestar.com/flowjo/html/version.html
Adam Treister
-----------------------------
Adam Treister
a...@treestar.com
http://www.treestar.com 800-366-6045

J Paul Robinson President of ISAC Congress at the time stated Various
problems regarding advertising and list abuse
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From: J. Paul Robinson <j...@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
Date: Mon Mar 31 2008 - 01:18:05 EDT

From J. Paul Robinson - Moderator
Robert is right - there is too much politics and not enough science...
What is happening here, is that there are too many cooks.
Let me make it very clear that we work hard to keep this list clean.
It
does not always work. When we identify a failure, we usually respond
to
the person concerned and don't waste all your time.

We frequently note in our posts, that advertising is not allowed.
This
list was developed from 2 or 3 individuals who actually had email in
1990, to 3000 over the past 19 years. It did not happen by chance,
nor
was it overnight. It was developed with a lot of cost ($$$), a lot of
time, and what was a pretty darned good idea when it started. We
don't
tolerate people who try to damage the list.

Now that it's highly successful, there are a number of individuals
that
are trying to either circumvent the list, use it for their own
purposes,
or simply sideline it. There are even some proposing that they should
be
able to manipulate the list and its contents in any forum for any
purpose. I am really shocked at this rather callous approach to a
scientific discussion board. I am not making public those individuals
or
their companies, but if I am pushed, I will identify them publicly.
If
I
do so, and they create havoc, it could shut the list down - or end up
in
a nasty legal battle. I don't suppose that would be popular?
So, it seems to me, that we need to get back to basics and focus on
the
reason this list has been so successful (and why you all want to use
it
for advertising - or even why those who what to hijack it...) - it
does
a good if not great job overall.
thanks for your support - all 3000 of you ...well most of you!
Clearly we will provide a mechanism for companies to provide a means
for
communication....it's on our list...
Maybe I am getting too old for all this abuse....!

regards
Paul Robinson
Purdue University

Since he is Responsible for the Purdue Cytometry Mail List and noticed
there is a problem would be be responsible for allowing a Group of
Favored Individual and Corporations to Obviously break the
Universitys Rules while Not allowing others to Market or Mention there
products? I will Provide examples of Marketing allowed that is
Blatant and Hidden Sales Links for Flow Cytometry Sales.
First on is Our Company Just sending Information on New Technology For
Concideration that was sent to Bob Murphy But Intercepted by J Paul
Robinson.

Re: Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow
Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR...Standard Header|Full
Message View J. Paul Robinson J. Paul Robinson ... ViewFriday,
September 28, 2007 9:37:32 AM To:mitchell haynes
Cc:da..._at_kanecki2.com; skel..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu Steve
what is this email - it came to me with Bob Murphy's name associated
with it. It seems to be an advertisement, this junk mail, and it seems
to have been modified by you ... So I guess I am confused. was this
sent to the list, or do you have an details about it - i am concerned
about these junk messages going out to our members, - if they are
using our lists, I will deal with them appropriately, but I am not
happy about this - any info you can give me appreciated thanks paul

TO ROBERT MURPHY WITH LINKS FOR
DOWNLOAD AND ALL INFORMATION PERTAINING TO FCS CYTORPO QUICK FACS 11
SOME HOW IT WAS FOWARDED TO: J PAUL ROBINSON...MAYBE FOR REVIEW...?
Fw: NEW FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter
Flow Cytometers CAN PROCESS 24,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR
Standard
Header|Full Message
View
mitchell haynes <buybro..._at_yahoo.com>
ViewFriday,
September 28, 2007 1:36:36 AM
To:j..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Cc:da..._at_kanecki2.com
Cytopro
quick facs savings analysis.doc (82KB); Setup-Quick
Facs 11 Demo.exe (7854KB); FCS
CYTOPRO BENIFITS.doc (25KB)
Find:
Dear Robert Murphy
NEW
FLOWCYTOMETRY SOFTWARE FOR ALL BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow Cytometers
CAN
PROCESS 24,000-42,000 SAMPLES PER HOUR.
FLOW CYTOMETRY FCS CYTO PRO QUICK FACS
http://www.kanecki.com/flow.html
Increased quality and productivity. With 10,000,000 event files, you
can process 24,000 samples/hour, and maintain quality up to Sigma 5
or
better. Compare this to having your research technologist performing
only 100 samples/hour analysis.
Increased laboratory utilization by 3X because you can perform the
analysis off-lab and free laboratory time for reading samples. This
was achieved when I developed the program, and we had a program
project grant from 1992 to 1998 of $8M.
Works with FCS 3.0 in all data modes as floating point, integer*4,
and
ASCII.
Works with BD and Beckman/Coulter Flow Cytometers and Cell Sorters
Backwards compatible with FCS 2.0 files and Flow Cytometers and Cell
Sorters.
Can read FCS 3.0 files up to 10M events with 20 parameters.
Easy to Use, three step process. Load initial file, set gate, specify
file list to process. That's it.
Collaboration tools to allow you to cut and paste image results to
results.
Statistical analysis results imprinted on histogram plots directly as
mean, mode, and median with the ability to present results in log
mode
or linear mode, depending on the detector used.
Plain vanilla coding for easy update and maintenance to allow for the
greatest user and software quality.
One time purchase fee, no yearly renewal fees as with others.
Proven tract record in FACS, Fluorescent Activated Cell Sorter
Laboratory. The laboratory was rated the best laboratory in the
Midwest USA in 1990.
This application is designed for large-scale fluorescent activated
cell sorter
analysis. The program can read up to FCS 3.0 files and has been
tested
to run on Becton Dickinson and CoulterOrtho based flow cytometers and
cell sorters. The main advantage of this program is that you can have
the computer perform the analysis for you after you have selected the
region to analyze. The result is that up to 24,000 samples per hour
can be analyzed on a 1.4 GHz speed computer.
This program is designed for researcher and technologist use. It uses
rectangular gating, and is intuitive to use. To use this program, the
FCS must have the extension, *.bin as "54203023.bin" as an example.
The *.bin extension is what the computer uses to locate the files on
the computer.
THANK YOU FOR YOU TIME
MITCHELL HAYNES
VP
SALES
KANECKI
ASSOCIATES
832-347-1669

> To: skel..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> Cc: skel..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:39:02 AM
> Subject: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING INFORMATION TO PROPER
> CHANNELS
> Dear Paul,
> I recieved your responce to the email I sent. Please understand it is not
> junkmail but a update on new technology that will inhance all
> flowcytometers..It is currently being evaluated by BD who request for this
> software to be developed directly by our corporation.
> It was simply sent as an announcement for you concideration.
> The software is demonstrates precision and a higer processing rate than
> every existing software today.
> If you have any questions please call I provided my phone number with the
> email. I understand institutions of your caliber is always looking for new
> technology. Futhermoore this is the only software in the world that works
> for every platform on one peice of software
> Thank your for you time and have a great day.
> Please do not blame Steve for send the information to the proper channels
> I would think you would be upset if he did not foward important infomation
> that pertains to furthering cytometry breakthroughs.
> If you would like us to send information to another address that won't
> interfer please foward it to me and I will make sure that there are no
> more misunderstandings.
> Mitchell Haynes

From: "j..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu"
<j..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
To: mitchell haynes <buybro..._at_yahoo.com>
Cc: j..._at_flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:26:51 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: NOT A JUNCK MAIL STEVE WAS JUST FOWARDING
INFORMATION
TO
PROPER CHANNELS
Sorry, I think it is junk mail
regards
paul robinson

Advertising
From: Mario Roederer (roede...@drmr.com)
Date: Fri Nov 01 2002 - 16:46:47 EST
* Next message: William Telford: "Re: Fluorochromes choice"
* Previous message: Derek Davies: "RE: Fluorochromes choice"
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* Maybe reply: Penney Robbins: "RE: Advertising"
* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
[ author ]
[ attachment ]
________________________________________
I agree that there have been far too many commercial-oriented emails
on the list. I appreciate the efforts of most manufacturers to
withhold from advertising on this list (plus, of course, the efforts
of Steve & Paul to filter those out).
The list, which is an outstanding forum for exchange of information,
has been occasionally used to identify substantially new products
which can significantly impact on how we do experiments. I feel that
the Molecular Probes email of 10/30 clearly does not fall into this
category; the new product advertised was no more than a slight
modification of the existing one. Such an email should be directed
solely to the person requesting information; if that person then
collates responses and puts it back on the list then so be it. But
for manufacturers to directly respond in this way is
counter-productive to the goals of this list.
I would like to propose a 6-month moratorium on all emails that are
no more than advertisements. Note that I write "would like
to"--because I'm not sure that this is possible. I don't want to put
any additional onus on Steve or Paul to filter out the borderline
emails. While these may be easy to identify when they come from
manufacturers, it could just as well be considered blatant
advertising when they come from a user.
Therefore, perhaps we can see if the commercial participants on this
list could exercise self-restraint rather than requesting a formal
censorship of advertising emails.
Thus, if you are a manufacturer, and you are responding to somebody's
request for information, do so privately to that person ONLY. It is
up to the person requesting information to decide whether or not the
information received in response to the query warrants a summary on
the list.
If you are not a manufacturer, and are responding to somebody's
request for specific information, please consider whether your
response (that identifies a specific product or manufacturer) is of
general enough interest to warrant the list. If it does not, then
simply send it privately to the person who requested information, and
let them decide whether to post the summary of responses.
In general, I urge people to err on the side of caution and send
their information only to the person who requested it. Realize that
if several people want the same information, they can always request
it from the original poster! I have posted queries to the list;
people have sent me emails asking me to forward to them the
responses, which I did.
This process can significantly cut down on emails that might be
viewed as too commercial.
mr
________________________________________
* Next message: William Telford: "Re: Fluorochromes choice"
* Previous message: Derek Davies: "RE: Fluorochromes choice"
* Next in thread: Penney Robbins: "RE: Advertising"
* Maybe reply: Penney Robbins: "RE: Advertising"
* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
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From: Marcia Woda (Marcia.W
...
@banyan.ummed.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 30 1998 - 15:23:58 EST
* Next message: J.Paul Robinson: "1998 was a good year"
* Previous message: Steve Kelley: "Possible minor disruption"
* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
[ author ]
[ attachment ]
________________________________________
Why couldn't commercial parties make a short statement via this list
to
direct interested viewers to their company's Web site to look at new
products, updates, etc.
________________________________________
* Next message: J.Paul Robinson: "1998 was a good year"
* Previous message: Steve Kelley: "Possible minor disruption"
* Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]
[ author ]
[ attachment ]
________________________________________
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.6 : Thu Jan 01 2004 -
17:35:29 EST
Latest FlowJo focuses on presentation graphics
From: Adam Treister (a...@treestar.com)
Date: Tue Dec 29 1998 - 10:34:17 EST
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Date: Thu Jul 02 1998 - 17:00:40 EST
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Dear Yousaf,
WinMDI reads CellQuest data files because they are in FCS2.0
format. The header provides the byte offsets for the TEXT portion of
the
file and the DATA portion of the file, so it is rather straight
forward to read a FCS datafile in a platform independent manner.
For more info see the FCS documentation at
http://nucleus.immunol.washington.edu/ISAC.html
If you're asking about getting Mac files to a PC running Windows,
that is a different issue. Networks make it easy, just be sure
the files are transferred in a BINARY mode. Without a network, most
folks find using a PC formatted floppy or other device and utilizing
the
Mac's ability to read a foreign disk via PC Exchange, for example, a
good solution. WinMDI doesn't care once the files are available to
the PC on a readable device (floppy, ZIP, CDROM, etc...).
Regards,
Joe

On Sun, 29 Jun 2098, Ed Yousaf wrote:

Dear All,
Silly question time; can WinMidi read CellQuest data and if so how?
Many thanks.
Ed Yousaf FIMLS MPhil
13 Upton Drive
Upton-by-Chester
Chester CH2 1BU
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On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 05:43 AM, J.Paul Robinson
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Colleagues: I am sending out a copy of a message I have just sent to
RNWAY laboratories of South Korea and all 20 worldwide distributors
of
RNWAY products most of whom are highly reputable companies. I am only
sending it to you because I am going to propose to create a small
"SCIENTISTS against EMAIL ABUSE" type of revolutionary
action.........
Paul,
Sounds like you're advocating fighting disease by eradicating the
antigen instead of boosting the immune response. You can organize
all
you want on eliminating the pest, but until they put a stamp tax on
email, a better approach is to let the
messages be out there, but have them filtered to oblivion before you
ever see them.
In your case, the postmaster at Purdue is probably already filtering
millions of messages a day that come to the thousands of email users
on
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mail,****************************
and
spreading the word to other postmasters that they also should filter
those messages.
So if you can get the IT people at the university to tighten their
sieve, that's best. Otherwise you have to switch to an email program
that has good junk filters. I think I get 500+ messages a day, and
only 10 to 20 make it past the junk
filter.
****************************
Until last summer I was using Outlook Express and spam was a huge
problem. Since then I switched to the free Mail program in OS X,
which
just added special features for spam detection and removal. Its
probably 97% effective, and I haven't found any false positives.
So, of course, the best answer is to get a Mac :)
I'm sure the PC mail clients are addressing this issue as well. I
believe there are central databases of offenders so programs can
learn
from others which messages to delete. I would imagine this is the
most important feature in any email program sold these days, so I bet
Eudora or other third party mail programs have this solved.
There's a lot of information on the subject at:
http://spam.abuse.net/
Whether you fight the problem on the server or the client, it
definitely is worth getting it cleaned up. I found it screwed up my
whole communications process because every time I wanted check email,
I
had to wade through dozens or hundreds of useless ads.
Adam
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