Lose Weight - Don't Drink All That Water...
Thunder...@dsemail.net
If, like everyone says, you lose weight if you burn more calories than
than you eat, then it doesn't really matter how much water you drink,
now does it? The concentration of waste products will simply be
higher if you don't drink as much.
If I eat 2500 cal and expend a total of 3000 cal then I'll lose a
pound a week, regardless of what I drink or how much I drink of it,
right?
Thunder9
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Donovan Rebbechi
> ... or do you really need to?
No.
> If, like everyone says, you lose weight if you burn more calories than
> than you eat, then it doesn't really matter how much water you drink,
> now does it? The concentration of waste products will simply be
> higher if you don't drink as much.
Right.
> If I eat 2500 cal and expend a total of 3000 cal then I'll lose a
> pound a week, regardless of what I drink or how much I drink of it,
> right?
So how does this drinking water theory work ? Are they (those who promote this
theory) saying that you can actually pee out extra carbs or lipid, just by
consuming excess water ?
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I'd been led to believe that you need the water because it is necessary for
the chemical reactions that take place in mobilising and burning the fat,
fwiw.
Thunder...@dsemail.net
Thanks. I have done some research and have been enlightened... the
typical recommended 8-10 glasses per day is a myth. I think drinking
a little more than usual is probably good (for me, because I tried it
and liked it). And some people feel great drinking lots. But it
seems like a wide varience, there are many variables, and to find the
"right" amount, one should just try drinking different amounts and
find out what makes them feel good. Start with just tracking how much
you drink, based on thirst. 4 glasses a day could be ok for some
people. Some people can get nearly all their H20 from their food.
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WithBACON
>
>So how does this drinking water theory work ? Are they (those who promote
>this
>theory) saying that you can actually pee out extra carbs or lipid, just by
>consuming excess water ?<<
The people who advocate drinking water to speed fat loss fall into two camps:
1) The morons, who believe that truly excessive consuption of water far above
and beyond the needs of the human body will "flush out toxins" and "purify the
aura" or whatever.
I lump them in with coffee enema advocates, HSTrue Believers, and
$cientologists.
Then there are the eccentric but intelligent (although, IMHO, somewhat
impractical) people who realize that the body, in its desire to maintain
thermal homeostasis (a given body temperature) will burn more calories if you
drink liter upon liter of ice water, spend half your life in a walk in freezer,
ski naked, etc.
They have a point, but, but I prefer "eating less, lifting, and long walks..."
Tabaluga
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Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water has
been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life. The
water you drink literally becomes you! Since such a large percentage of our
bodies is water, water must obviously figure heavily in how our bodies
function. We need lots of fresh water to stay healthy. Aside from aiding in
digestion and absorption of food, water regulates body temperature, carries
nutrients and oxygen to cells, and removes toxins and other wastes. This
"body water" also cushions joints and protects tissues and organs, including
the spinal cord, from shock and damage. Conversely, lack of water
(Dehydration) can be the cause of many ailments.
Water and Weightloss
Among it's other benefits, water plays a major part in weight loss. Since
water contains no calories, it can serve as an appetite suppressant, and
helps the body metabolize stored fat, it may possibly be one of the most
significant factors in losing weight.
Drinking more water helps to reduce water retention by stimulating your
kidneys. Studies have recommended that if you are overweight according to
average height and weight comparison charts, you should add one glass of
water to your daily requirement (of eight glasses) for every 25 pounds over
your recommended weight.
Dehydration leads to excess body fat, poor muscle tone & size, decreased
digestive efficiency & organ function, increased toxicity, joint & muscle
soreness, & water retention. Water works to keep muscles and skin toned.
Thunder...@dsemail.net
<kolag...@ck.hinet.hr> wrote:
>Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
>completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water has
>been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life. The
>water you drink literally becomes you! Since such a large percentage of our
>bodies is water, water must obviously figure heavily in how our bodies
>function. We need lots of fresh water to stay healthy. Aside from aiding in
>digestion and absorption of food, water regulates body temperature, carries
>nutrients and oxygen to cells, and removes toxins and other wastes. This
>"body water" also cushions joints and protects tissues and organs, including
>the spinal cord, from shock and damage. Conversely, lack of water
>(Dehydration) can be the cause of many ailments.
This is all a bunch of generalizations which mean nothing. We all
know we need water. Too much water can kill you. Not enough can kill
you. Somewhere inbetween is good for you.
>Water and Weightloss
>
>Among it's other benefits, water plays a major part in weight loss. Since
>water contains no calories, it can serve as an appetite suppressant
This means you get full/sick from drinking water and don't want to
eat. There's better ways to supress your appetite.
>, and
>helps the body metabolize stored fat,
Again, this is only part of its function, but specifies nothing. Too
much water will kill you and not enough will kill you. If nothing
that we've learned over the past 30 years of research, its this...
that there is no single wonder substance. People take a simple idea
and always think "well if x grams is good for you, then I'll take 10x
grams of it." People get sick and some die doing this. Undoubtably,
some group gets rich from it too.
>it may possibly be one of the most
>significant factors in losing weight.
Ahem. Proof?
>Drinking more water helps to reduce water retention by stimulating your
>kidneys.
So you're saying that excess water retention impedes the loss of fat?
>Studies have recommended that if you are overweight according to
>average height and weight comparison charts, you should add one glass of
>water to your daily requirement (of eight glasses) for every 25 pounds over
>your recommended weight.
Can you give me a reference to these studies?
>Dehydration leads to excess body fat, poor muscle tone & size, decreased
>digestive efficiency & organ function, increased toxicity, joint & muscle
>soreness, & water retention. Water works to keep muscles and skin toned.
As said before, dehydration ultimately leads to death. Too much
hydration leads to death. The answer is somewhere inbetween but your
generalizations tell me nothing.
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Tabaluga
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> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:49:01 +0100, "Tabaluga"
> <kolag...@ck.hinet.hr> wrote:
>
> >Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
> >completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water
has
> >been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life.
The
> >water you drink literally becomes you! Since such a large percentage of
our
> >bodies is water, water must obviously figure heavily in how our bodies
> >function. We need lots of fresh water to stay healthy. Aside from aiding
in
> >digestion and absorption of food, water regulates body temperature,
carries
> >nutrients and oxygen to cells, and removes toxins and other wastes. This
> >"body water" also cushions joints and protects tissues and organs,
including
> >the spinal cord, from shock and damage. Conversely, lack of water
> >(Dehydration) can be the cause of many ailments.
>
> This is all a bunch of generalizations which mean nothing. We all
> know we need water. Too much water can kill you. Not enough can kill
> you. Somewhere inbetween is good for you.
>
> >
Welll, I am not a medical expert and I dont advocate excess hydratation but
proper hydration is extremely important to maintain optimal health, thats
the fact.
Of all nutritional concerns for athletes, the most important is adequate
water intake. The athlete's immediate need for water is to control body
temperature and to cool working muscles. Lack of water, above all other
nutrients, has the ability to effect performance in a negative manner and
lead to serious complications.
The easiest way to determine if you are hydrated is to check the color and
quantity of your urine. "If your urine is very dark in color and limited in
quantity, you need to consume more fluids."
Kevin J
Lipolysis produces water, it does not consume it.
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Ron Ritzman
wrote:
>Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
>completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water has
>been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life.
You forgot to attribute this to Jeremiah Glas.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/jeremiah/water.htm) I'm assuming this was
an oversight on your part.
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Dan Thomas
Or you may just be taking a lot of B complex vitamins.
Esk
>> you drink, based on thirst. 4 glasses a day could be ok for some
>> people. Some people can get nearly all their H20 from their food.
>
John M. Williams
>On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:49:01 +0100, "Tabaluga" <kolag...@ck.hinet.hr>
>wrote:
>
>>Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
>>completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water has
>>been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life.
>
>You forgot to attribute this to Jeremiah Glas.
>(http://www.bodybuilding.com/jeremiah/water.htm) I'm assuming this was
>an oversight on your part.
Doh!
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David Cohen
"Dan Thomas" <djth...@gate.net> wrote
> Tabaluga wrote:
> > The easiest way to determine if you are hydrated is to check the
color and
> > quantity of your urine. "If your urine is very dark in color and
limited in
> > quantity, you need to consume more fluids."
>
> Or you may just be taking a lot of B complex vitamins.
B complex vitamins reduce urine quantity?
I did not know that.
David
Ron Ritzman
<jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>Ron Ritzman <ritzu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:49:01 +0100, "Tabaluga" <kolag...@ck.hinet.hr>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
>>>completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water has
>>>been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life.
>>
>>You forgot to attribute this to Jeremiah Glas.
>>(http://www.bodybuilding.com/jeremiah/water.htm) I'm assuming this was
>>an oversight on your part.
>
>Doh!
Is that "Doh!" for me or for kolag...@ck.hinet.hr? Hell, for all I
know he might actually be Jeremiah Glas. (or did Jeremiah snarf it from
someone else?)
John M. Williams
>On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:44:02 -0500, John M. Williams
><jmwil...@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:
>
>>Ron Ritzman <ritzu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:49:01 +0100, "Tabaluga" <kolag...@ck.hinet.hr>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Water is a fundamental part of our lives. It is easy to forget how
>>>>completely we depend on it. Human survival is dependent on water - water has
>>>>been ranked by experts as second only to oxygen as essential for life.
>>>
>>>You forgot to attribute this to Jeremiah Glas.
>>>(http://www.bodybuilding.com/jeremiah/water.htm) I'm assuming this was
>>>an oversight on your part.
>>
>>Doh!
>
>Is that "Doh!" for me or for kolag...@ck.hinet.hr?
The latter.
>Hell, for all I
>know he might actually be Jeremiah Glas. (or did Jeremiah snarf it from
>someone else?)
Actually, water is part oxygen, anyway, but the thing most essential
to life is the loose cohesion of hydrogen bonding, so water is
probably more important than oxygen. Thus, that statement would be
inaccurate.
Naturally, if they are looking at it in the more simplistic terms of
"Which can you go longer without, water or oxygen?" then it's a
reasonably accurate statement.
Dan Thomas
Cause urine to be darker. I see, there were 2 parts to the sentence
and I only addressed one.
>
> David
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You probably think to take the cotton out of the bottle first.
Thunder...@dsemail.net
That's why I said "some" people. Go look up the word "some" in the
dictionary before posting again. Its also true that "some" people
will need vastly more than 8 glasses per day.
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Thunder...@dsemail.net
>2500 calories a week? You'll starve.
Actually, I'm eating 1800 to 2000 calories per day. No big deal.
I'll weigh myself once per week and after lose about 10 pounds I'll
check my fat ratio again (professionaly, with calipers) and possibly
re-adjust my diet to 1 pound loss per week.
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lordy
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> ou should add one glass of
> water to your daily requirement (of eight glasses)
I read "somewhere" that that classic "8 glasses of water" number actually
included water occuring in food and did not literally mean 8 glasses.
Lordy