A new product for Pat to market
Lyle McDonald
A combination of oral androsterone and etiocholanolone (amazing what you
learn about androgen metabolism when you put your mind to it for an hour
; think of how much I'll know in the two months I've given myself to
master your little specialty, Pat, to make you totally irrelevant as I
told you I would privately).
As you know, both are inactivation end products of testosterone
metabolism in the liver, which are then excreted in the urine.
Both are metabolically inactive with no anabolic or androgenic activity.
Meaning they have zero impact on muscle growth or anything else in the body.
Putting them right on par with your current batch of products. Well,
your stuff definitely increases water weight and is a great CNS
stimulant. But salt and caffeine, respectively, work just as well at
1/10th the cost.
Actually, it makes them better in a way, because they don't convert to
estrogen or shut down the HPTA, unlike what you're currently selling
(funny how with all that access to an expensive research lab you prattle
on about, you can't be bothered to come up with simple human safety
data, or even see if you're doing harm to folks before you sell them
your stuff).
Hell, I'll be nice, give you a pitch to trick the marks into buying the
stuff: tell 'em that adding the two products above in sufficient amounts
will block the inactivation of testosterone by simple mass action so
that the testerone in their system hangs around longer.
******
Tangential biochem lesson for those who don't understand what in the
hell I'm talking about.
In a chemical reaction such as
enzyme
XXX ------> YYY
Where XXX is one molecule and YYY is the conversion product (enzyme is
teh conversion enzyme which is typcially substrate and end product
driven), if you put more of YYY in, you can prevent the conversion of
XXX in the first place. So adding the end product of testosterone
inactivation to the liver might prevent the inactivation of the
testosterone that was already there.
******
Your customers are probably dumb enough to buy it, hell it might even
work. That was actually my first thought when I read about the stuff,
add it to a product to limit hepatic inactivation but I decided to give
you first dibs at the newest bodybuilding placebo because I'm so nice
and care about you so much.
You should make as much money selling them this stuff as you're making
selling your current placebos. And since both have the same effect on
muscle growth, your marks won't know the difference. I also bet that
the FDA can't get in your face for selling inactivation end products
with no metabolic effects.
Lyle
I told you to let it go, Pat, remember that I did. Multiple times
actually, I warned you to let this drop. But since you have the
apparent common sense of a rock, you wouldn't do it.
It's gonna be fun smacking you around some more, I've been so bored
since I decided to drop out of school (I bet you thought you were a big
man making that public, since I mentioned I was withdrawing at least a
month ago myself). Since that's apparently the only way you even think
you can make me look bad, with feeble insults and even more feeble
comments about my life (schizo university, I bet that took you hours to
think up, and you're still laughing about how clever it was ; nevermind
that I'm a seasonal bipolar depressive, and that my problem bothers me
no more than any other aspect of my biology, it's part of who I am and I
have zero reason to be embarrased about it, so your insults affect me in
no way), I'll just have to make you look bad in my own special way.
Now let the true destruction begin. Just remember that you were warned.
And you can let this stupidity go any time you want and I'll let it go too.
Patrick Arnold
Apparently however, your schizophrenia is not.
P.S. Congrats on making an ass of yourself.
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"Lyle McDonald" <lyl...@onr.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, Pat, got a new product for you to sell folks.
>
> A combination of oral androsterone and etiocholanolone (amazing what you
> learn about androgen metabolism when you put your mind to it for an hour
> ; think of how much I'll know in the two months I've given myself to
> master your little specialty, Pat, to make you totally irrelevant as I
> told you I would privately).
>
> As you know, both are inactivation end products of testosterone
> metabolism in the liver, which are then excreted in the urine.
>
> Both are metabolically inactive with no anabolic or androgenic activity.
> Meaning they have zero impact on muscle growth or anything else in the
body.
>
> Putting them right on par with your current batch of products. Well,
> your stuff definitely increases water weight and is a great CNS
> stimulant. But salt and caffeine, respectively, work just as well at
> 1/10th the cost.
Yeah, but caffeine and salt never gave me explosive orgasms!!!
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Victor Conte
Patrick Arnold
working all day on it, has me cracking up.
If you want to go with war to someone, you don't choose the territory
that the enemy knows like the back of his hand to engage him in battle.
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Victor Conte
Dear Patrick:
This is like Bill, Lyle and others trying to challenge me in the area
of mineral and trace element metabolism in athletes. I have been studying,
collecting
data and publishing in this area for almost 20 years. Just because Joe Montana was
a great quarterback doesn't mean he could effectively play center for the LA
Lakers. Just because Bill Roberts has knowledge in the area of anabolic steriods
dosn't make him an expert in the area of mineral metabolism. This seems to be a very
common mistake that
people like Bill and Lyle make. Just because they have extensively studied in one
area does not make them an expert in all areas. Lyle seems to think he is an expert
at everything, which he is certainly not. He continues to make himself look more
like a fool everyday. Smart people know what their strengths and weakness are, so
apparently
Lyle is not very smart.
Patrick Arnold
lecture John Williams on law.
I may know very little about alot of things, and alot about very few
things, but I am smart enough to steer clear of debating subject matter
that I am weak at. By doing so I appear alot smarter than i really am
MJL
>apparently
>Lyle is not very smart.
Gotta agree with ya there Vic. I bet you don't talk about women much.
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wrote:
>Hey, Pat, got a new product for you to sell folks.
>
>A combination of oral androsterone and etiocholanolone (amazing what you
>learn about androgen metabolism when you put your mind to it for an hour
>; think of how much I'll know in the two months I've given myself to
>master your little specialty, Pat, to make you totally irrelevant as I
>told you I would privately).
>
So what and who cares?
>As you know, both are inactivation end products of testosterone
>metabolism in the liver, which are then excreted in the urine.
>
>Both are metabolically inactive with no anabolic or androgenic activity.
> Meaning they have zero impact on muscle growth or anything else in the body.
>
>Putting them right on par with your current batch of products. Well,
>your stuff definitely increases water weight and is a great CNS
>stimulant. But salt and caffeine, respectively, work just as well at
>1/10th the cost.
I have been drinking coffee and water all my life and have never had
the results that I had while on 1-AD. Don't you ever get sick of
trolling?
How the fuck will you ever know, you obviously have not tried it.
>
>You should make as much money selling them this stuff as you're making
>selling your current placebos. And since both have the same effect on
>muscle growth, your marks won't know the difference. I also bet that
>the FDA can't get in your face for selling inactivation end products
>with no metabolic effects.
>
>Lyle
>I told you to let it go, Pat, remember that I did. Multiple times
>actually, I warned you to let this drop. But since you have the
>apparent common sense of a rock, you wouldn't do it.
>
Let what drop? All we see are your trollish posts. Don't you have
anything better to do?
>It's gonna be fun smacking you around some more, I've been so bored
>since I decided to drop out of school (I bet you thought you were a big
>man making that public, since I mentioned I was withdrawing at least a
>month ago myself). Since that's apparently the only way you even think
>you can make me look bad, with feeble insults and even more feeble
>comments about my life (schizo university, I bet that took you hours to
>think up, and you're still laughing about how clever it was ; nevermind
>that I'm a seasonal bipolar depressive, and that my problem bothers me
>no more than any other aspect of my biology, it's part of who I am and I
>have zero reason to be embarrased about it, so your insults affect me in
>no way), I'll just have to make you look bad in my own special way.
Then why do you fell you have to defend these things?
el chupacabra
Dude, do you HAVE a life?
I've finally figured you out.
I've come to the conclusion that you have some major suppressed homosexual
desires for Pat Arnold and all this shit you throw at him is your way to
keep his attention or something. Hey, he's a hot looking dude and all, but
he's straight. There's enough of us gay boys in the world - well, not me, I
like my guys muscular - to keep you busy.
I'm half serious about this. I think once you finally get some dick, all
these freaky postings on MFW will end.
If you want help coming out of the closet and stuff, I've been there and
I'm willing to help.
Peace,
Jon
patrick arnold
>
> Dude, do you HAVE a life?
>
> I've finally figured you out.
>
> I've come to the conclusion that you have some major suppressed homosexual
> desires for Pat Arnold and all this shit you throw at him is your way to
> keep his attention or something.
You know, he very well might have been hitting on me at the Arnold this
year and i did not pick up on it and then he felt rejected and that is
what sparked all this. In retrospect, I DID feel a very odd vibe around
him, especially out at the nightclub party on saturday night
Shit, this is freaking me out. Fucking spine shivers man
Lyle McDonald
>
> Dude, do you HAVE a life?
I was out until 4 am hanging with chicks and a good friend last night.
Does that count?
>
> I've finally figured you out.
Sure you have.
> I've come to the conclusion that you have some major suppressed homosexual
> desires for Pat Arnold and all this shit you throw at him is your way to
> keep his attention or something. Hey, he's a hot looking dude and all, but
> he's straight. There's enough of us gay boys in the world - well, not me, I
> like my guys muscular - to keep you busy.
>
> I'm half serious about this. I think once you finally get some dick, all
> these freaky postings on MFW will end.
Doubtful.
> If you want help coming out of the closet and stuff, I've been there and
> I'm willing to help.
Thanks, I guess, but no thanks.
Lyle
Patrick Arnold
>
> el chupacabra wrote:
> >
> > Dude, do you HAVE a life?
>
> I was out until 4 am hanging with chicks and a good friend last night.
> Does that count?
>
No, that is not a life. That is a 15 year olds version of what a life
is.
A life consists of a career, or a job at least. A purpose for living.
Someone that contributes to society as opposed to taking from it
JDusty4
I respect you and think you are smart, talented, nice, and sexy (in a prison
way, that is :-) ). The purpose of my post, however, is to tell you that I
think you are making it a shitload harder for yourself when you post
retaliatory shit like this. Make your point, and when someone starts saying
you don't have a life, you don't need to justify your coolness; just ignore
that kind of stupid shit.news:3AE9B26B...@onr.com...
el chupacabra -
<3AE8E0F3...@ix.netcom.com>:
this confirms what i had suspected. he's in love with you and/or wants to
be you. his mind can't proccess or accept this.