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Hactar
Sep 15, 2012, 12:01:07 PM9/15/12
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In article <mn.780d7dc943f6c1e3.127094@snitoo>,
Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Brader submitted this idea :
> > Mark Brader:
> >>> And [concrete] tends to keep its flat shape, so you can clear the
> >>> snow off it easily year after year.
> >
> > "Opus the Penguin":
> >> We have an asphalt driveway. I'd rather have concrete like everyone
> >> else on the block. But one definite advantage is that we have a much
> >> easier time keeping our driveway cleared of snow. Black absorbs and
> >> then radiates the meager heat of the winter sun much more effectively.
> >
> > Oh, sure, if it's mild enough for that to make a difference.
>
> The driveways in Orange County absorb the winter sun effectively. Most
> people here never have to buy a snowblower.
Same for those in the other Orange County.
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LIBRA: A big promotion is just around the corner for someone
much more talented than you. Laughter is the very best medicine,
remember that when your appendix bursts next week. -- Weird Al
Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Brader submitted this idea :
> > Mark Brader:
> >>> And [concrete] tends to keep its flat shape, so you can clear the
> >>> snow off it easily year after year.
> >
> > "Opus the Penguin":
> >> We have an asphalt driveway. I'd rather have concrete like everyone
> >> else on the block. But one definite advantage is that we have a much
> >> easier time keeping our driveway cleared of snow. Black absorbs and
> >> then radiates the meager heat of the winter sun much more effectively.
> >
> > Oh, sure, if it's mild enough for that to make a difference.
>
> The driveways in Orange County absorb the winter sun effectively. Most
> people here never have to buy a snowblower.
Same for those in the other Orange County.
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
LIBRA: A big promotion is just around the corner for someone
much more talented than you. Laughter is the very best medicine,
remember that when your appendix bursts next week. -- Weird Al
Hactar
Sep 15, 2012, 12:02:52 PM9/15/12
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In article <XnsA0CEB871E394Fho...@94.75.214.39>,
Howard Hola Hale <howar...@notmail.com> wrote:
> Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why is it that sidewalks are typically made of concrete, when the loads
> > they carry are generally under 150 kg (each) and which have joints that
> > don't like nonresilient surfaces, while roads are paved with a very
> > pliable material to carry loads measured in the tons, said loads not
> > requiring resilient surfaces?
>
> I don't know, but I know that a few places have been experimenting with
> replacing concrete sidewalk with squares of rubber from recycled tires. I
> believe they're more expensive per square foot, but have the advantage of
> being something you can prefab offsite and install without any curing
> period, and in places where there are trees they can be lifted out while
> tree roots are trimmed and then dropped back into place, avoiding one of
> the big problems of concrete sidewalks which is cracking caused by growing
> trees.
>
> For runners, they're great because they're a lot nicer to run on.
They SUCK for outdoor barefoot use. See "Adventure Island, Tampa".
Howard Hola Hale <howar...@notmail.com> wrote:
> Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why is it that sidewalks are typically made of concrete, when the loads
> > they carry are generally under 150 kg (each) and which have joints that
> > don't like nonresilient surfaces, while roads are paved with a very
> > pliable material to carry loads measured in the tons, said loads not
> > requiring resilient surfaces?
>
> I don't know, but I know that a few places have been experimenting with
> replacing concrete sidewalk with squares of rubber from recycled tires. I
> believe they're more expensive per square foot, but have the advantage of
> being something you can prefab offsite and install without any curing
> period, and in places where there are trees they can be lifted out while
> tree roots are trimmed and then dropped back into place, avoiding one of
> the big problems of concrete sidewalks which is cracking caused by growing
> trees.
>
> For runners, they're great because they're a lot nicer to run on.
They SUCK for outdoor barefoot use. See "Adventure Island, Tampa".
Rick B.
Sep 15, 2012, 1:13:05 PM9/15/12
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ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote in news:3blei9-...@pc.home:
> In article <mn.780d7dc943f6c1e3.127094@snitoo>,
> Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark Brader submitted this idea :
>> > Mark Brader:
>> >>> And [concrete] tends to keep its flat shape, so you can clear the
>> >>> snow off it easily year after year.
>> >
>> > "Opus the Penguin":
>> >> We have an asphalt driveway. I'd rather have concrete like everyone
>> >> else on the block. But one definite advantage is that we have a much
>> >> easier time keeping our driveway cleared of snow. Black absorbs and
>> >> then radiates the meager heat of the winter sun much more effectively.
>> >
>> > Oh, sure, if it's mild enough for that to make a difference.
>>
>> The driveways in Orange County absorb the winter sun effectively. Most
>> people here never have to buy a snowblower.
>
> Same for those in the other Orange County.
Probably different for the Orange Counties in Vermont and New York.
> In article <mn.780d7dc943f6c1e3.127094@snitoo>,
> Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark Brader submitted this idea :
>> > Mark Brader:
>> >>> And [concrete] tends to keep its flat shape, so you can clear the
>> >>> snow off it easily year after year.
>> >
>> > "Opus the Penguin":
>> >> We have an asphalt driveway. I'd rather have concrete like everyone
>> >> else on the block. But one definite advantage is that we have a much
>> >> easier time keeping our driveway cleared of snow. Black absorbs and
>> >> then radiates the meager heat of the winter sun much more effectively.
>> >
>> > Oh, sure, if it's mild enough for that to make a difference.
>>
>> The driveways in Orange County absorb the winter sun effectively. Most
>> people here never have to buy a snowblower.
>
> Same for those in the other Orange County.
Paul Madarasz
Sep 15, 2012, 3:47:11 PM9/15/12
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On 15 Sep 2012 17:13:05 GMT, "Rick B." <deep...@sprynet.com.aq>
wrote, perhaps among other things:
Or the one in the Netherlands (I don't think they call it a county,
though).
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"One thing happened after another, and before
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wrote, perhaps among other things:
though).
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"One thing happened after another, and before
we knew it, we were dead"
-- Michael O'Donoghue
bill van
Sep 15, 2012, 9:01:06 PM9/15/12
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In article <1pm958dl4gsmple2a...@4ax.com>,
There isn't one in the Netherlands. The Dutch royal family takes its
name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first king
of the Netherlands.
bill
name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first king
of the Netherlands.
bill
Paul Madarasz
Sep 16, 2012, 9:14:06 AM9/16/12
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Stan Dandy Liver
Sep 16, 2012, 2:22:30 PM9/16/12
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:01:06 +0100, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
wrote:
And did he import Oranges from Jaffa?
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bill van
Sep 16, 2012, 9:34:39 PM9/16/12
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In article <op.wkqqnsol8iiscb@dell3100>,
from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
to Christmas. Capiche?
bill
> And did he import Oranges from Jaffa?
Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
to Christmas. Capiche?
bill
Hactar
Sep 17, 2012, 4:02:39 PM9/17/12
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In article <billvan-7967C6...@news.shawcable.net>,
> <fbe938a0-d1e6-41fb...@i14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 16, 11:57 pm, Veronique <veroniqueuni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 15, 7:56 am, Mary <mrfeath...@a0l.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 9/14/2012 8:44 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:
> > >
> > > > > There used to be a "Concrete Highways are Best" campaign. Does
> > > > > anyone have a concrete highway (2 lanes) nearby? I think there
> > > > > was one through one of my hometowns, though I remember brick as
> > > > > well.
> > >
> > > > Yes, there's a state highway that I often use that's concrete, at
> > > > least in sections. There's also a road that should have been
> > > > concrete: they've put a couple of roundabouts in where there used
> > > > to be intersections, and the weight of the cars turning in a tight
> > > > circle have worn ridges where the tires go. I'm waiting to see
> > > > how the roundabout holds up once it snows and the plows have to
> > > > clear it.
> > >
> > > Maybe the plows will scrape it flat again?
> >
> > More likely dig up the ridges and turn them into rubble and thus
> > create a pothole.
> >
> Here in the zone where it sometimes gets cold, potholes occur when
> asphalt gets cold enough to crack, water seeps in, it expands when it
> freezes, further damaging the asphalt, and vibrations from subsequent
> traffic, especially heavy trucks and such, cause the damaged material to
> collapse.
>
> I don't think I've seen potholes in concrete hereabouts. Do they
> actually occur? Same way? And what causes potholes where it doesn't
> freeze?
I'm guessing the roadway surface gets damaged by falling equipment or
gets chunks dug out by accelerating/braking/turning vehicles, and the
development is furthered by other vehicles hitting the downstream edge or
rain washing away the layers beneath, making the edges unsupported. It
doesn't freeze here often (a handful of times per year, never very hard),
and I don't know the mechanics of pothole development. They do occur
though.
> <fbe938a0-d1e6-41fb...@i14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> Mary <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 16, 11:57 pm, Veronique <veroniqueuni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 15, 7:56 am, Mary <mrfeath...@a0l.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 9/14/2012 8:44 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:
> > >
> > > > > There used to be a "Concrete Highways are Best" campaign. Does
> > > > > anyone have a concrete highway (2 lanes) nearby? I think there
> > > > > was one through one of my hometowns, though I remember brick as
> > > > > well.
> > >
> > > > Yes, there's a state highway that I often use that's concrete, at
> > > > least in sections. There's also a road that should have been
> > > > concrete: they've put a couple of roundabouts in where there used
> > > > to be intersections, and the weight of the cars turning in a tight
> > > > circle have worn ridges where the tires go. I'm waiting to see
> > > > how the roundabout holds up once it snows and the plows have to
> > > > clear it.
> > >
> > > Maybe the plows will scrape it flat again?
> >
> > More likely dig up the ridges and turn them into rubble and thus
> > create a pothole.
> >
> Here in the zone where it sometimes gets cold, potholes occur when
> asphalt gets cold enough to crack, water seeps in, it expands when it
> freezes, further damaging the asphalt, and vibrations from subsequent
> traffic, especially heavy trucks and such, cause the damaged material to
> collapse.
>
> I don't think I've seen potholes in concrete hereabouts. Do they
> actually occur? Same way? And what causes potholes where it doesn't
> freeze?
I'm guessing the roadway surface gets damaged by falling equipment or
gets chunks dug out by accelerating/braking/turning vehicles, and the
development is furthered by other vehicles hitting the downstream edge or
rain washing away the layers beneath, making the edges unsupported. It
doesn't freeze here often (a handful of times per year, never very hard),
and I don't know the mechanics of pothole development. They do occur
though.
Charles Bishop
Sep 18, 2012, 5:09:52 PM9/18/12
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In article <billvan-742DB3...@news.shawcable.net>, bill van
<bil...@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
[snip-oranges, puns, Jaffra-nothing to see there]
tangerines maybe) in their Christmas stocking and think it was a treat?
--
charles
<bil...@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
[snip-oranges, puns, Jaffra-nothing to see there]
>
>Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
>from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
>rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
>Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
>December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
>fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
>oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
>to Christmas. Capiche?
One sentence prompts this query: Did anyone here also get oranges (or
>Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
>from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
>rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
>Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
>December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
>fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
>oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
>to Christmas. Capiche?
tangerines maybe) in their Christmas stocking and think it was a treat?
--
charles
Snidely
Sep 18, 2012, 4:46:01 PM9/18/12
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Charles Bishop noted that:
Yes.
/dps "tried to do it to my kids, too"
--
Who, me? And what lacuna?
/dps "tried to do it to my kids, too"
--
Who, me? And what lacuna?
bill van
Sep 18, 2012, 6:54:47 PM9/18/12
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In article
<ctbishop-180...@global-66-81-250-36.dialup.o1.com>,
Yes. In the early 1950s when I was a toddler and the Dutch/European
economy lay in ruins, all tropical fruits were rare treats.
bill
<ctbishop-180...@global-66-81-250-36.dialup.o1.com>,
economy lay in ruins, all tropical fruits were rare treats.
bill
Stan Dandy Liver
Sep 19, 2012, 1:56:41 PM9/19/12
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:34:39 +0100, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
I wondered if oranges (fruit) were so-called because they were grown
locally, or was the region named after the colour? Which came 1st?
> bill
wrote:
> In article <op.wkqqnsol8iiscb@dell3100>,
> "Stan Dandy Liver" <notag...@invalid.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:01:06 +0100, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <1pm958dl4gsmple2a...@4ax.com>,
>> > Paul Madarasz <paul.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
[]
> In article <op.wkqqnsol8iiscb@dell3100>,
> "Stan Dandy Liver" <notag...@invalid.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:01:06 +0100, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <1pm958dl4gsmple2a...@4ax.com>,
>> > Paul Madarasz <paul.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > There isn't one in the Netherlands. The Dutch royal family takes its
>> > name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
>> > time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first
>> king
>> > of the Netherlands.
>>
>> And did he import Oranges from Jaffa?
>
> Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
> from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
> rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
> Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
> December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
> fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
> oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
> to Christmas. Capiche?
>
Gosh.
>> > name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
>> > time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first
>> king
>> > of the Netherlands.
>>
>> And did he import Oranges from Jaffa?
>
> Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
> from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
> rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
> Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
> December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
> fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
> oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
> to Christmas. Capiche?
>
I wondered if oranges (fruit) were so-called because they were grown
locally, or was the region named after the colour? Which came 1st?
> bill
Richard R. Hershberger
Sep 19, 2012, 3:06:15 PM9/19/12
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On Sep 19, 1:56 pm, "Stan Dandy Liver"
<notagood...@invalid.org.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:34:39 +0100, bill van <bill...@delete.shaw.ca>
>
> >> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:01:06 +0100, bill van <bill...@delete.shaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > In article <1pm958dl4gsmple2actbb52qim2da4h...@4ax.com>,
The placename of the Principality of Orange, however, has an entirely
different etymology, supposedly from a Latin borrowing of a Celtic god
name.
<notagood...@invalid.org.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:34:39 +0100, bill van <bill...@delete.shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <op.wkqqnsol8iiscb@dell3100>,
> > "Stan Dandy Liver" <notagood...@invalid.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <op.wkqqnsol8iiscb@dell3100>,
>
> >> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:01:06 +0100, bill van <bill...@delete.shaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > In article <1pm958dl4gsmple2actbb52qim2da4h...@4ax.com>,
> >> > Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> []
> >> > There isn't one in the Netherlands. The Dutch royal family takes its
> >> > name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
> >> > time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first
> >> king
> >> > of the Netherlands.
>
> >> And did he import Oranges from Jaffa?
>
> > Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
> > from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
> > rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
> > Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
> > December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
> > fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
> > oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
> > to Christmas. Capiche?
>
> Gosh.
>
> I wondered if oranges (fruit) were so-called because they were grown
> locally, or was the region named after the colour? Which came 1st?
The fruit came first. The color name is a reference to the fruit.
>
> []
> >> > There isn't one in the Netherlands. The Dutch royal family takes its
> >> > name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
> >> > time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first
> >> king
> >> > of the Netherlands.
>
> >> And did he import Oranges from Jaffa?
>
> > Not that I'm aware of. The Dutch historically imported their oranges
> > from Spain, so they were more likely to be Valencias or Castellanas
> > rather than Jaffas. Unfortunately, oranges are also associated with St.
> > Nicholas, who the Dutch mistakenly have arriving from Spain every
> > December, rather than Turkey, where he was the bishop of Myra in the
> > fourth century. None of this has anything to do with the mandarin
> > oranges sold by Japan to many parts of the world in the weeks leading up
> > to Christmas. Capiche?
>
> Gosh.
>
> I wondered if oranges (fruit) were so-called because they were grown
> locally, or was the region named after the colour? Which came 1st?
The placename of the Principality of Orange, however, has an entirely
different etymology, supposedly from a Latin borrowing of a Celtic god
name.
Richard R. Hershberger
Sep 19, 2012, 3:06:58 PM9/19/12
to
On Sep 16, 9:13 am, Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:01:06 -0700, bill van <bill...@delete.shaw.ca>
> > Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 15 Sep 2012 17:13:05 GMT, "Rick B." <deepst...@sprynet.com.aq>
>
> >> >> In article <mn.780d7dc943f6c1e3.127094@snitoo>,
than in the Netherlands.
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:01:06 -0700, bill van <bill...@delete.shaw.ca>
> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article <1pm958dl4gsmple2actbb52qim2da4h...@4ax.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Paul Madarasz <paul.madar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 15 Sep 2012 17:13:05 GMT, "Rick B." <deepst...@sprynet.com.aq>
> >> wrote, perhaps among other things:
>
> >> >ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote innews:3blei9-...@pc.home:
>
>
> >> >> In article <mn.780d7dc943f6c1e3.127094@snitoo>,
> >> >> Snidely <snidely....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Mark Brader submitted this idea :
> >> >>> > Mark Brader:
> >> >>> >>> And [concrete] tends to keep its flat shape, so you can clear the
> >> >>> >>> snow off it easily year after year.
>
> >> >>> > "Opus the Penguin":
> >> >>> >> We have an asphalt driveway. I'd rather have concrete like everyone
> >> >>> >> else on the block. But one definite advantage is that we have a much
> >> >>> >> easier time keeping our driveway cleared of snow. Black absorbs and
> >> >>> >> then radiates the meager heat of the winter sun much more effectively.
>
> >> >>> > Oh, sure, if it's mild enough for that to make a difference.
>
> >> >>> The driveways in Orange County absorb the winter sun effectively. Most
> >> >>> people here never have to buy a snowblower.
>
> >> >> Same for those in the other Orange County.
>
> >> >Probably different for the Orange Counties in Vermont and New York.
>
> >> Or the one in the Netherlands (I don't think they call it a county,
> >> though).
>
> >There isn't one in the Netherlands. The Dutch royal family takes its
> >name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
> >time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first king
> >of the Netherlands.
>
> >bill
>
> Well, what a disappointment!
I suspect, however, that the climate is much nicer in southern France
> >> >>> Mark Brader submitted this idea :
> >> >>> > Mark Brader:
> >> >>> >>> And [concrete] tends to keep its flat shape, so you can clear the
> >> >>> >>> snow off it easily year after year.
>
> >> >>> > "Opus the Penguin":
> >> >>> >> We have an asphalt driveway. I'd rather have concrete like everyone
> >> >>> >> else on the block. But one definite advantage is that we have a much
> >> >>> >> easier time keeping our driveway cleared of snow. Black absorbs and
> >> >>> >> then radiates the meager heat of the winter sun much more effectively.
>
> >> >>> > Oh, sure, if it's mild enough for that to make a difference.
>
> >> >>> The driveways in Orange County absorb the winter sun effectively. Most
> >> >>> people here never have to buy a snowblower.
>
> >> >> Same for those in the other Orange County.
>
> >> >Probably different for the Orange Counties in Vermont and New York.
>
> >> Or the one in the Netherlands (I don't think they call it a county,
> >> though).
>
> >There isn't one in the Netherlands. The Dutch royal family takes its
> >name from a region in southern France by that name, which was at one
> >time a principality owned by the Prince of Orange, later the first king
> >of the Netherlands.
>
> >bill
>
> Well, what a disappointment!
than in the Netherlands.
bill van
Sep 19, 2012, 5:34:28 PM9/19/12
to
In article <op.wkv9grxd8iiscb@dell3100>,
Sounds like a job for Wikipedia. It says:
"The name [of the fruit] is thought to derive ultimately from the
Sanskrit for the orange tree, with its final form developing after
passing through numerous intermediate languages."
Elsewhere, it says the colour was named after the fruit.
Else-elsewhere, it hints but does not state directly that the town of
Orange and later the feudal state of Orange derived their name from the
Occitan Aurenja, which seems to have come from the Latin Arausio, which
got its name from the Celtic water god Arausio.
"The name was originally unrelated to that of the orange fruit, but was
later conflated with it."
bill
"The name [of the fruit] is thought to derive ultimately from the
Sanskrit for the orange tree, with its final form developing after
passing through numerous intermediate languages."
Elsewhere, it says the colour was named after the fruit.
Else-elsewhere, it hints but does not state directly that the town of
Orange and later the feudal state of Orange derived their name from the
Occitan Aurenja, which seems to have come from the Latin Arausio, which
got its name from the Celtic water god Arausio.
"The name was originally unrelated to that of the orange fruit, but was
later conflated with it."
bill
bill van
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Shuddareadahead. I've just posted a longer version of this.
bill
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bill
Stan Dandy Liver
Sep 20, 2012, 5:12:07 PM9/20/12
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:35:47 +0100, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
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Thanks to both, esp. for not giving the WDYJFGI answer (that I did ought
to have done).
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to have done).
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