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Hactar

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Nov 21, 2009, 4:13:10 PM11/21/09
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In article <b3rfg5pf0mthnf2ug...@4ax.com>,
Boron Elgar <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:25:12 +0000, John Hatpin
> <RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>
> >Boron Elgar wrote:
> >
> >> I've two examples from within the past 8-9 months...both in the LA
> >> area (I've more, but I bore enough people already)
> >[...]
> >>People plunked themselves in front of
> >> an art work and there they stayed, until the audio told them to move
> >> on. We cased each room as we entered and bopped from piece to piece
> >> where the crowds were not clustered.
> >[...]
> >
> >This sounds very much like the same reason I don't use audio books.
> >The reader dictates how long you'll dwell on each sentence/exhibit,
> >and I find that very frustrating and restrictive, even to the extent
> >of provoking anxiety, and I'm liable to stop listening/walk out of the
> >museum. If I find a passage/exhibit/section dull, I'd like to
> >read/walk quickly; if one is particularly enjoyable, I'd prefer to
> >dwell longer, and even go back to read/visit it again.
> >
> >Luckily the comparison stops there, in that people using audio books
> >don't interfere with my own reading from the print editions. Imagine
> >queuing to read a paragraph ...
>
> I am very picky about audio books and have cut down on them quite a
> bit since the kids aged out of them. I used them - even adult books -
> to entertain or enlighten during car rides.
>
> I generally agree that the audio reader can superimpose over the text
> and detract from it, but in some cases, that superimposition is
> actually a benefit and gives me an interesting interpretation. I was
> listening to such readings this week, and one will never find better -
> Dylan Thomas reading his own works. Wow.

Someone recorded him prior to his death in 1953? Neato. I have a
recording of Sergei Rachmaninoff playing his own works, via player piano
rolls he recorded soon after he moved to America, which would have been
around the time of the Russian Revolution. I don't know how accurate
the dynamics are though.

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Two atoms are discussing whether or not to go into a bar. The first atom
says, "I don't know about this place. Last time I went in there, I lost
an electron." The second atom says, "Don't worry, I'll keep my ion you."

Boron Elgar

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:08:35 PM11/21/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:13:10 -0500, ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar)
wrote:

>In article <b3rfg5pf0mthnf2ug...@4ax.com>,
>Boron Elgar <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> I generally agree that the audio reader can superimpose over the text
>> and detract from it, but in some cases, that superimposition is
>> actually a benefit and gives me an interesting interpretation. I was
>> listening to such readings this week, and one will never find better -
>> Dylan Thomas reading his own works. Wow.
>
>Someone recorded him prior to his death in 1953? Neato.

This is the set I have, recorded the year before he died.

http://www.amazon.com/Dylan-Thomas-CD-Caedmon-Collection/dp/0694526592

> I have a
>recording of Sergei Rachmaninoff playing his own works, via player piano
>rolls he recorded soon after he moved to America, which would have been
>around the time of the Russian Revolution. I don't know how accurate
>the dynamics are though.

I have similar Gershwin recordings. Such things are amazing. I do not
know how well the player piano rolls caught nuance, perhaps someone
here knows more about that technology. I am curious.

Boron

John Hatpin

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:56:48 PM11/21/09
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Hactar wrote:

>I have a
> recording of Sergei Rachmaninoff playing his own works, via player piano
> rolls he recorded soon after he moved to America, which would have been
> around the time of the Russian Revolution. I don't know how accurate
> the dynamics are though.

Likely that there are no dynamics at all - as I understand it, those
old-fashioned player pianos worked entirely in binary on key presses.
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John Hatpin
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John Hatpin

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:59:27 PM11/21/09
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John Hatpin wrote:

> Hactar wrote:
>
> >I have a
> > recording of Sergei Rachmaninoff playing his own works, via player piano
> > rolls he recorded soon after he moved to America, which would have been
> > around the time of the Russian Revolution. I don't know how accurate
> > the dynamics are though.
>
> Likely that there are no dynamics at all - as I understand it, those
> old-fashioned player pianos worked entirely in binary on key presses.

Sorry, I meant to specify that they're binary in terms of parameters
such as velocity (speed of key press) and pressure. In fact, all
you've got is note timing and duration, which are analogue but still
inaccurate due to record/playback speed discrepancies and variations
in the record/play mechanisms.

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