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“Insinuating they are bigots” Judge rules against Alameda parents who sought opt-out from ‘anti-bullying’ classes, three school board members targeted for recall.

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Fresh from a victory in court, the Alameda School Board is scheduled
tomorrow to further expand district programs that teach students what
some parents consider pro-homosexual propaganda. Last week, a superior
court judge ruled that parents cannot use provisions in state law to opt
their children out of such lessons.

On Dec. 2, Alameda Superior Court Judge Frank Roesch ruled that the
school district's �anti-bullying� curriculum does not constitute �health
education,� so parents could not use provisions in state law that allow
parents to keep their students out of such classes.

�The Lesson 9 curriculum has a distinct and focused purpose tied to
preventing discrimination against young students based on the LGBT
structures of their families, and any overlap with the Health Ed Content
Standards is not significant and does not support Petitioners� claimed
right to opt out of instruction for their children in the Lesson 9
curriculum,� the judge said in his ruling.

Pacific Justice Institute, which represented parents who wanted to keep
their children out of the classes, said Judge Roesch �lambasted the
parents, repeatedly insinuating that they are bigots and insisting there
can be no homosexual indoctrination because people are born that way.
The judge equated a view contrary to his own with creationism and called
both false.�

In addition, said Pacific Justice Institute, �attorneys for the school
district grilled parents in depositions about their religious beliefs.
Parents were asked numerous questions about church attendance, sermons
they had heard against homosexuality, and whether they were aware that
the Bible had been used to defend racism and oppression.�

�We believe that this ruling against parents is inconsistent with the
Education Code, and we are looking forward to continuing this battle
until opt-out rights are restored on appeal, or the curriculum is
changed,� said Pacific Justice Institute chief counsel Kevin Snider in a
prepared statement. Snider said the parents he represents oppose the
�anti-bullying� classes in elementary schools because the curriculum
�focuses almost exclusively on homosexuality.�

According to Pacific Justice Institute, �School records released by
Alameda Unified School District show that bullying based on race and
gender is far more prevalent in AUSD than sexual orientation
harassment.�

�Most parents do not want their first through fifth graders bombarded
with pro-homosexual messages at school,� said President Brad Dacus,
president of Pacific Justice Institute. �If LGBT advocates really want
to stop name-calling and bullying, they should start with themselves.�

The school board approved the lessons by a 3-2 vote on May 26. Since
then, a group of parents has launched a drive to recall the three board
members who voted in favor of the curriculum -- Tracy Jensen, Ron Mooney
and Niel Tam.

�We have teams currently working hard towards getting the necessary
signatures to qualify for the ballot,� Kellie Wood, a leader of the
recall drive, told California Catholic Daily in an email. The recall
group calls itself �S.E.R.V.E. ALAMEDA.�

Tomorrow, the school board will consider expanding the controversial
curriculum for students in grades 3 to 5. The meeting will begin at 7:30
p.m. in the city council chambers at Alameda City Hall, 2263 Santa Clara
Avenue.

Alameda School Superintendent Kirsten Vital defended the school
district�s policy and praised the judge�s decision. �The District
believes that preventing and addressing bullying and harassment is key
to creating safe and welcoming schools that are conducive to learning,�
Vital said in a press release. �This ruling affirms our ability to help
ensure our schools are safe learning environments where everyone is
accepted and welcomed.�

READER COMMENTS

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 12:47 AM By WOODY GUIDRY
REAL NEWS would be when a school employee does NOT tag along with their
superiors. Going with the flow is not generally seen as an independent
decision, and never displays fortitude-but PRUDENCE, YES!

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 3:02 AM By Tom Johnson
How dare you call yourselves Christians while blithely spreading lie
after lie. Letting people know that there are families different from
their own, and beating up kids from those families is not OK, is not
being "bombarded with pro-homosexual messages". You ARE bigots. You ARE
hypocrites. You are the people Jesus railed against in the Temple. Stop
being hateful and find the true message of Jesus - or face the ultimate
consequences.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 5:18 AM By St. Christopher
Good strategy to seek a recall of each of the three board members. Make
their selection of this curriculum the centerpiece of the recall effort.
That will make the board members think twice of their vulnerability when
they take on distinctly minority, and wrongheaded, viewpoints. These
parents are right to oppose the school board, including seeking relief
in court. The judge's decision there reflects how completely corrupt
many local courts have become, as well as state bars. The defending
attorneys in the parents depositions hopefully made a good record for
appealing this case, as the decision is simply a sounding board for the
judge's own biases and not an effort to seek the truth.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 6:49 AM By ted
Remember, the Education Code in California can be changed. In the cases
like these where parents' rights are being violated, the Code should be
changed to protect the proper parental prerogatives. Public schools are
not teaching kids to read write and do basic math effectively, which
begs the question why in the world should they be meddling in parental
functions when they cannot produce literacy well enough. The entire
system should be scrapped and reformed from the bottom up.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 7:08 AM By john r
homosexuality has been deemed legal and therefore enjoys the same equal
protection as heterosexuality. the responsibilities of the school is to
instruct children to embrace that equal protection, which they can only
do by being knowledgable about the subject. your religous freedom and
freedom of speech ends where it impinges on the rights of equal
protection of another.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 7:08 AM By 1abqdad
It's SAD that the teachers claim to NOT have enough time to teach the
basic material (Justification for our kids NOT being able to read!);
yet, they want to teach all kinds of liberal crap! Until they get our
kids' test scores out of the gutter, they have NO reason to teach
anything but stick to the basics! (If it is NOT about the "three R's",
don't teach it!)

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 9:28 AM By Barbara
I don't get it. Why do parents allow their kids to continue to be
destroyed in those cesspools called "public schools"? Why don't parents
take their kids away from them? You can't fight and win. There are more
of them (and a lot more money) than there are of us. Make the sacrifice,
whatever it is, and do what you know you must do.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 10:11 AM By JLS
What the homo agenda does in this venue is cater to the most disruptive
and dissolute category of student/parent.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 10:13 AM By JLS
Bully for Tom Johnson's rant. He demonstrates total hypocricy.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 11:08 AM By Peter
Fortunately, "reality" begins with a "R".

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 11:22 AM By Dan
"You are the people Jesus railed against in the Temple. Stop being
hateful and find the true message of Jesus - or face the ultimate
consequences. " Tom -- this threat of yours: what are the "ultimate
consequences?"

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 11:31 AM By MarkF
Folks, don't be afraid. Be bold instead. Recall the school board
members. Sue them if you can't. Pull your kids out these schools. Find
candidates who will de-fund or reform PBS. Don't buy a THING from the
radical, entrenched media - NY Times, LA Times, Time magazine, Newsweek,
People, etc.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 11:41 AM By Life Lady
The primary instructors of children are their PARENTS, not a
schoolboard. Home schooling was in effect well before the institution of
formal education outside the home. Children in California were either
instructed in mission schools, by Catholic Friars or at home. If they
were sent to school it was because parents could be guaranteed that
their children would be taught their lessons within and according to the
Church, (and I don't want any nasty comments about what is perceived as
"pedofile priests" by anyone ignorant of the true teachings of the
Catholic Church!) Catholicism is under attack now, and the worse attacks
are yet to come. We have been subjected to a campaign of terrorism, and
the unique bullying of those who would destroy the Church. All kinds of
garbage is being thrown at us, and we all have to stand tall and stand
for our own rights to express our beliefs. This is just one of the many
that will continue to come. However the fight takes shape, we must all
be ready to "stand and deliver". Our Faith demands nothing less.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 11:59 AM By Midwest St. Michael
"your religous freedom and freedom of speech ends where it impinges on
the rights of equal protection of another." john r And just, pray tell
dear john r, where are the rights of the parents who want to opt out of
these "classes"? Where is the "equal protection of another" for these
students and their parents? Just because homosexuality has been "deemed
legal" does *not* make it right. Abortion is legal, and it is most
certainly is *not* right. No, dear john, in your thinking *you* are
impinging upon the rights of those who do not want their children
exposed to outright debauchery and lust. Can you not see the
"in"tolerance of your thinking here? Pot meet kettle.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 1:20 PM By JLS
It is better that those who offend little children be drowned in the sea
with a millstone tied to them: Jesus is saying here that it is better to
get rid of the harmful influence rather than to cater to it, which is
what the sodomites, effeminates, feminazis, and evil people seek.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 1:40 PM By Peter
Instead of an opt-out, they should offer two different learning tracks:
the �anti-bullying� track, and the 'how to be a better bigot' track.
It's win-win. Both tracks promote "family values".

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 3:53 PM By Mark from PA
"The District believes that peventing and addressing bullying and
harrassment is key to creating safe and welcoming schools that are
conducive to learning." "This ruling affirms our ability to help ensure
our schools are safe learning environments where everyone is accepted
and welcomed." Perhaps a few bullies and their parents may not agree
with these statements but most reasonable people will. A few months ago
a man spoke at one of our local schools. His son committed suicide
because he could not endure repeated bullying. All of you pro-life
people out there should agree with the statements above. The lives of
our young people and teens are also important, even our gay teens.
Programs such as these can save lives and if people don't like it too
bad. I think people need to realize that some kids who do not have a
homosexual orientation are also teased and bullied with homophobic
slurs. So it isn't just the gay kids that suffer with this kind of
behavior. Speaking out against bullying and protecting kids who are
bullied is not exposing anyone to debauchery and lust.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 6:05 PM By MarkF
How to Respond To Radical Bullying 101 - Don't give in to them. Don't
let them set the agenda or pick the words of discourse. Don't respond to
their charges. Charge back at them instead. Example, Peter here he wants
to control the debate by making it about bullying when the real topic is
the promotion of homosexuality. Don't give in this. Very important, just
IGNORE what they say and make your own point instead. When you answer
their charges point by point, you're then playing on their turf. In this
case, just propose a GENERAL course for kids on bullying that does not
mention homosexuality. You'll see how quickly they show their hand.
Their concern is not with bullying but with promoting homosexuality. In
other words, they won't go for it. They will expose themselves for the
bullies, radical and bigots that they are without us ever mentioning the
words.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 6:12 PM By Lynceus
Roesch�s reference to "LGBT structures of their families" reveals his
bias. �LGBT� is the homosexual-activist preferred abbreviation for
same-sex addiction disorders (SSAD). Normalizing such disorders -- the
intent of homosexual strategists [as revealed in "The Overhauling of
Straight America" (1987)] -- at best exhibits false compassion,
affirming harmful behaviors, witness the HIV/AIDS pandemic and other
STDs which afflict "gay" males, and an elevated breast-cancer incidence
among lesbians. Some claim genetic predispositions toward homosexuality.
But others make similar claims about alcoholism. Libertine judges and
sexual revolutionaries ordinarily affirm one and discourage the other,
though both have terribly negative consequences for individuals and
society at large. The Church correctly recognizes homosexual acts as
"intrinsically disordered" and "contrary to the natural law," while
requiring compassionate treatment of those so afflicted. Even USCCB
observes that �St. Paul teaches that homosexual acts� undermine our
authentic dignity as human beings�.� (then quoting Romans 1:26-27, in
�Ministry to Persons with a Homosexual Inclination: Guidelines for
Pastoral Care�). Parents, not judges and teacher-union activists, remain
the primary educators of their children. (Pierce v. Society of Sisters,
268 U.S. 510, 1925). Gray Davis appointed Roesch to his judgeship in
2001, noting that during 1975-1981, Roesch was a Legal Aid Society
attorney who became President of La Raza Lawyers Association of
California, and that he was a co-founder of La Raza Lawyers Association
of the East Bay. [La Raza (�The Race�) is a left-wing advocacy
organization for Hispanic political interests. Roesch�s surname is his
German father�s.]

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 7:24 PM By gravey
The judge's ruling should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with
Alameda County, one of the most chaotic and dysfunctional counties in
the country. The educational system is the worst. With few exceptions,
sending your child to public school in Alameda County is tantamount to
child abuse.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 7:31 PM By dana
With prayer and confession, the Eucharist and reflection, one can truly
grow in holiness, and as a person humbly comes to the incredible
understanding (as an ant can understand a man) of just what the holiness
of God is...as Isaiah said "I am a man of unclean lips', he or she can
then understand what kind of behavior God expects of us. Jesus commands
us to be perfect, and what has been made manifestly clear in the Old and
New Testaments,is that homosexuality is an abomination. Read Romans I,
and tremble.

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------- Posted Monday, December 07, 2009 8:22 PM By St. Christopher
"Tom Johnson" and "john r": the only hypocrisy is contained in the
actions of the board. They should not be in the game of "teaching" any
child about homosexuality. Regardless of what you believe,
"heterosexuality" was also not "taught" in CA elementary schools. This
behavior is purely indoctrination, and of a kind that is championed by
those that despise straight families and want such standard social norms
destroyed. Any decent parent will pull their children out of these awful
schools and bring suit to stop these vile "teachings".

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:42 AM By Fr. J
The real bullies are the "gay" rights fascists. They turn violent when
they don't get what they demand. Now they demand your children.

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:33 PM By marcum
The children are being used as lab rats in a demented mid control
experiment Pull your kids out of the insane assylum home school or start
schools in churches (parents as teachers) after a drop of 30 to 40
percent of enrolled students, the schools will implode faster than an
acorn dropping from the tree.

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:57 PM By JLS
There should be criminal laws against anyone who attempts to
indoctrinate the gay agenda in any public place or institution.

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:09 PM By Anne T.
I wonder how much of this is bullying against those with homosexual
tendencies and how much of the treatment comes from those with
homosexual tendencies trying to sexual harass others of the same sex.
Remember bullying and harassment works both ways. I have seen, little
boys mainly, put their hands on the bodies of other children, sometimes
of the same sex, inappropriately. Neither bullying or sexual harassment
should be allowed. Children need to learn to keep their hands to
themselves. The name calling needs to stop, but so does the same-sex or
opposite sex harassment. This can all be done without teaching children
homosexual acts are all right. Schools should be for learning the basics
not for indoctrination.

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:39 PM By Abeca Christian
Tom Johnson no offense buddy but you are bullying "us" Christians right
now. I smell Double standard here by Tom and those who believe in "gay"
indoctrination. St. Christopher posted it well and if I was Tom Johnson
I would attend a class on how not to bully those of faith and moral
values, perhaps that' ll teach him a thing or two.

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:42 PM By Abeca Christian
Fr. J you said that fight, they do turn violent when they don't get
their way. Their fists are up before you finish speaking, even when you
are kindly speaking words of peace.

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------- Posted Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:47 PM By Abeca Christian
Fact is that bullying is done more on over weight children, more on
disabled kids, more on kids who wear glasses than there is bullying done
on kids who are confused about their sexuality! I mean really kids don't
talk about sexual preferences in Elementary, not unless they are being
indoctrinated themselves or have been molested or something happened to
them emotionally that has brought on their confusion. That is an
observance done by actual teachers, friends of mine.

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------- Posted Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:15 AM By MarkF
These classes should be against bullying in general and not get into the
issue of homosexuality. That should satisfy all sides. The real issue of
bullying of kids who are in the sad process of developing a homosexual
inclination is well beyond the scope of kids level of understanding.
Kids will always tend to pick on the weak. And when a kid's home life
weakens his own sense of his own masculinity, he may be both liable to
develop a homosexual inclination and also be liable to bullying by other
kids who sense his weakness. I've seen this firsthand and I know that
you all have seen this too. What a kid like this needs is a solid male
roll model, some encouragement. What he doesn't need is to be labeled as
a homosexual at an early age.

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------- Posted Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 PM By Abeca Christian
I agree with MarkF, he is right. When people start labeling children at
an early age as a homosexual, I find that sick down right demented. Not
normal! How can anyone say that a child of 5 is also thinking of sex
with other boys? Or is displaying attraction for the same sex? How can
people truly now that? Sometimes especially boys, they look to their
peers and also look for authority in other men, for proper direction and
modeling. Like a child looks to his parents for guidance, trust and
nurturing. Imagine taking that away, then you have many problems in that
child's growth development. Sick society we live in, to take away the
masculinity of a child so early on just because of an indoctrination of
an agenda. That is what it is, an agenda! Homosexuals want to slowly
indoctrinate their agenda. It is so obvious!

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------- Posted Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:10 PM By Anne T.
Abeca Christian, you are exactly right. The children who are extremely
sexual are most often the ones who have been molested. Every experienced
teacher, daycare worker and instructional assistant knows that. Quite
often they have to be watched so they do not get another student off
into a cornor or under a table where they can hide their activities.

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------- Posted Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:45 PM By MarkF
Anne, what we really need in schools is intervention to prevent kids
from identifying a homosexual inclination. I believe that it would be
easier to stop the inclination from developing than it is to heal it in
adulthood. This would be to truly support the child's rights. And man,
there sure are a lot of kids who are molested who end up as molesters
themselves. I've been shocked by how many gay men have contacted me to
tell me how they were sexually abused as kids by an older male and how
that imprinted on them into developing a homosexual inclination later
on. I've had dozens contact me about this in the past year alone.

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------- Posted Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:54 PM By JLS
Boys naturally form groups and in this process they also begin making
themselves into men, a long process. They try to pull all those they can
into these groups. Some of course are larger than others. They do not
have a first priority of beating up effeminate boys, but try to work
their group development on them also. The Gay/sodomite agenda uses all
it can to thwart the natural process, and it does this by stealing as
many boys as it can and perverting them. Sodomites are doing the work of
the devil, which means deceiving, stealing, killing (note that legalized
abortion rose up at the same time that the sodomite agenda rose up),
adulterating, idol worshiping, etc.

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------- Posted Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:19 PM By Anne T.
MarkF and Abeca Christian, you are right about not labeling children
about sexuality in childhood. They are far too young to know what
sexuality is all about and the consequences of certain behavior.

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------- Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 1:15 AM By Kenneth M. Fisher
In my early years I was bullied, in my later years I played mostly
defensive Halfback and End. What MarkF has written is correct. It would
be very easy for teachers who really cared to limit or even stop
bullying and that should be done, but as MarkF says, stop the bullying,
don't teach abnormal behaviour. God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher

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------- Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 2:39 PM By Mark from PA
I am lucky because I was never bullied. I was kind to everyone and never
had an bad word to say against anyone. A lot of the kids didn't have a
lot to do with me, especially the kids that we into drugs. But I still
think of how nice it was that the kids never used bad language around
me, told dirty jokes or even discussed sex or drugs. So I feel that I
was respected. One of my friends who was popular said that he had a lot
of peer pressure to use drugs and drink and that some of the kids
weren't that nice when he declined.

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------- Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 6:58 PM By Mark from PA
Kenneth, I think people respect my Christian faith. I have had dealing
with a few rough people but they treat me with respect because I am a
gentle person and treat them with respect. To me being a Catholic
Christian isn't just an hour on Sunday but part of my being. A person
once told me that he thought that I was a true Christian because I lived
my faith.

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------- Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 7:03 PM By JLS
I served my childhood group as the "bully regulator". What many are
failing to differentiate here in the topic of bullying is the normal
course of choosing leaders of a group. What the govt is now attempting
by its phony anti-bullying crusade is to replace normal group leadership
development in society with the micromanaged
homosexual/effeminate/feminist tyranny. On one of the other threads on
this site Canisius, as I recall, relates an incident where he stopped an
old feminazi from bullying a six year old boy. The govt needs to be
stopped in its encroaching tyranny. The govt has become a bully and is
simply projecting its guilt by labeling society as bullies. Look at how
the democrat congress is bullying the public with obscene alleged
healthcare legislation ... they bully unborn babies. A government and
society which can butcher unborn babies has no business telling others
about what kids can and cannot do on the playground.

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------- Posted Friday, December 11, 2009 10:57 PM By Abeca Christian
I think that in reality, we will probably never see any public schools
really intervene to help protect children from any type of immortal
indoctrination. We may see individuals who care that may try to help,
such a few teachers and maybe a few parents. I don't know what else we
can do, as you can see our governor has passed into law many homosexual
agenda friendly laws imposed on schools and that has worsened our school
education system. The unions are also part of the problem because they
are so liberal, they usually push votes for liberal candidates that have
no moral or respect for family values. The unions are a form of modern
day mafia. They are evil and corrupt, they use to serve for the good of
the hard working middle class, and now they just serve for their own
survival and they have not given a hoot about our society and moral
values at all. Money, greed etc etc, that is what they are all about.
Not about character, truly hard working class anymore.


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> http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=dbae8d45-b06d-42e...

> f4-2c1dc6c18691
>
> Fresh from a victory in court, the Alameda School Board is scheduled
> tomorrow to further expand district programs that teach students what
> some parents consider pro-homosexual propaganda. Last week, a superior
> court judge ruled that parents cannot use provisions in state law to opt
> their children out of such lessons.
>

Good. Bullying is a serious problem in schools and children need to
be taught starting at an early age that attacking others based upon
things like race, color, religion, sexual orientation or gender is
wrong and will not be tolerated.

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