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BradGuth

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Apr 28, 2009, 11:15:28 PM4/28/09
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Don’t look now, but guess what was nicely aligned as of March 26,
2009 ?

Solar system simulator
http://www.faustweb.net/solaris/

The Panspermia Hypothesis
“Schulze-Makuch said that he and his research colleagues contend that
microbes floating above Venus have adopted one or more survival
strategies.”

“Ultimately, Schulze-Makuch said, a sample collection mission to
Venus is needed. A top candidate in his mind is for a rocket-carrying
balloon to first snag an atmospheric sample, then hurl the specimen up
to a Venus orbiting mother ship. That craft then transfers the
collectibles over to the International Space Station (ISS)”

"Nobody will ever believe theres life on Venus until everybody sees
it under the microscopeits moving and waving back," Schulze-Makuch
said.

Barber's Bacterial Invasions / Smaller than Vermin
“In 1963, D. R. Barber, at the Norman Lockyer Astronomical
Observatory near Sidmouth, England, reported a series of six alien-
like rainwater borne bacterial invasions that occurred over a 25 year
period.(6) The short delays (averaging 55 days) between Venus inferior
conjunctions and the onset dates of the bacterial invasions, coupled
with some very anomalous characteristics of the bacteria, led Barber
to speculate that the bacteria originated in the upper atmosphere of
Venus and had been being delivered to earth by the solar wind during
inferior conjunctions.”

Venus Transit: Biohazard?
http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/vel/ven-tran.htm
http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/vel/1918.htm
http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/vel/1918h1n2.htm

http://astronomer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solarsystem&action=display&thread=648

Looks pretty convincing enough, that we got ourselves yet another
Venus panspermia shot of solar wind blown atmospheric spores and
microbes, that’ll perhaps take a few more agonizing weeks to filter
down and throughout our atmosphere. Sorry about that.

Too bad we didn’t manage to collect samples of Venus microbes and
spores as of long before now, as our CDC could have anticipated and
even having developed a working set of vaccines.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Hagar

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Apr 29, 2009, 4:32:13 PM4/29/09
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"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Don�t look now, but guess what was nicely aligned as of March 26,
2009 ?

Solar system simulator
http://www.faustweb.net/solaris/

The Panspermia Hypothesis
�Schulze-Makuch said that he and his research colleagues contend that
microbes floating above Venus have adopted one or more survival

strategies.�

< snip idiotic drivel)

Say GuthBall, could it be that the pigs living in the upper elevations of
Venus could be held responsible for the dastardly swine flu ??
Just a thought, since you're the expert ...


BradGuth

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Apr 29, 2009, 4:39:33 PM4/29/09
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On Apr 29, 1:32 pm, "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Yes in deed, Venusian flying pig farts are the most likely culprits
(just kidding).

Oddly, it seems my “Guth Usenet” account is still working like a
charm, and meanwhile the regular public Google Groups version of
Usenet/newsgroups has gotten selectively nailed shut, as though my
stuff is getting stealth moderated to death, where even the search for
“Venus Transit Biohazard” comes up empty, though everything else is
working quite normally for whatever insider spooks and moles such as
rabbi Saul Levy, Hagar and our bogus clown “hanson” like to
contribute. Perhaps by having to entirely repost this topic from
scratch will eventually do the trick, and if not we’ll have to stick
with using my “Guth Usenet”.
http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en

~ BG

BradGuth

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Apr 29, 2009, 12:43:05 PM4/29/09
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Hopefully this third update is the charm, as the previous two postings
obviously didn't take.

Don’t look now, but guess what became nicely aligned as of March 26,
2009 ?

Solar system simulator
http://www.faustweb.net/solaris/

If Venusian atmospheric particles were moving right along within the
300 km/s solar wind, as such they would make that trek within as
little as 36 hours, though more than likely taking 72 hours. However,
if terrestrial water bears (tardigrades) can survive naked space
travel, as having recently been proven to be the case, then why not
spores and microbes as suggested by Barber in 1963?

The Panspermia Hypothesis (Swine Flu / H1N2, H5N1, H5N7 or H3N2 and so
forth)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/1616042.html

http://astronomer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solarsystem&action=display&thread=648

Looks pretty convincing enough, that we got ourselves yet another

Venus panspermia shot of solar wind transferred atmospheric spores and
microbes, as primarily within the first quarter of the Earth-Venus 584
day synodic cycle, that’ll perhaps take a few more agonizing weeks to


filter down and throughout our atmosphere. Sorry about that.

Too bad we didn’t manage to collect samples of Venus atmospheric
microbes and spores as of long before now, whereas our CDC and others
in charge of protecting us could have anticipated and even having


developed a working set of vaccines.

Btw, Venus probably doesn’t have swine/pigs, but if it did they could
probably just as easily fly in that thick soup of an atmosphere that’s
worth 65 kg/m3 buoyancy, and the local 90% gravity certainly couldn’t
hurt of you were a flying pig. Obviously there’s always the random
chance of panspermia cross mutations taking place whenever something
of new genetic material arrives into our nearly ideal biologically
friendly petri dish environment.

vtcapo

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Apr 29, 2009, 7:28:19 AM4/29/09
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> http://astronomer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solarsystem&action=di...

>
> Looks pretty convincing enough, that we got ourselves yet another
> Venus panspermia shot of solar wind blown atmospheric spores and
> microbes, that’ll perhaps take a few more agonizing weeks to filter
> down and throughout our atmosphere.  Sorry about that.
>
> Too bad we didn’t manage to collect samples of Venus microbes and
> spores as of long before now, as our CDC could have anticipated and
> even having developed a working set of vaccines.
>
>  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

BG,
Can you tell me the date or dates that Venus goes into retrograde?

RT

BradGuth

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Apr 28, 2009, 10:11:38 PM4/28/09
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Don’t look now, but guess what was aligned as of March 26, 2009 ?

http://astronomer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solarsystem&action=display&thread=648

Looks pretty convincing enough, that we got ourselves yet another
Venus panspermia shot of solar wind blown atmospheric spores and
microbes, that’ll perhaps take a few more agonizing weeks to filter
down and throughout our atmosphere. Sorry about that.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

vtcapo

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Apr 29, 2009, 7:33:08 AM4/29/09
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On Apr 28, 11:15 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://astronomer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solarsystem&action=di...

>
> Looks pretty convincing enough, that we got ourselves yet another
> Venus panspermia shot of solar wind blown atmospheric spores and
> microbes, that’ll perhaps take a few more agonizing weeks to filter
> down and throughout our atmosphere.  Sorry about that.
>
> Too bad we didn’t manage to collect samples of Venus microbes and
> spores as of long before now, as our CDC could have anticipated and
> even having developed a working set of vaccines.
>
>  ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

BG,
Can you tell me what date or dates Venus goes into retrograde?

RT

BradGuth

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Apr 29, 2009, 9:16:38 AM4/29/09
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Don’t look now, but guess what became nicely aligned as of March 26,
2009 ?

Solar system simulator
http://www.faustweb.net/solaris/

If Venusian atmospheric particles were moving right along within the
300 km/s solar wind, as such would make that trek within as little as
36 hours, though more than likely taking 72 hours. However, if water
bears (tardigrades) can survive naked space travel, as proven to be
the case, then why not spores and microbes?

The Panspermia Hypothesis (including Swine Flu)

http://astronomer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=solarsystem&action=display&thread=648

Too bad we didn’t manage to collect samples of Venus atmospheric


microbes and spores as of long before now, as our CDC could have
anticipated and even having developed a working set of vaccines.

Btw, Venus probably doesn’t have swine/pigs, but if it did they could
probably fly in that thick soup of an atmosphere that’s worth 65 kg/m3


buoyancy, and the local 90% gravity certainly couldn’t hurt of you

were a flying pig. Obviously there a random chance of cross mutations
taking place whenever something new arrives into our environment.

marika

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Apr 29, 2009, 8:51:41 PM4/29/09
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Yes in deed, Venusian flying pig farts are the most likely culprits
(just kidding).

>Oddly, it seems my �Guth Usenet� account is still working like a


>charm, and meanwhile the regular public Google Groups version of
>Usenet/newsgroups has gotten selectively nailed shut, as though my
>stuff is getting stealth moderated to death, where even the search for

>�Venus Transit Biohazard� comes up empty, though everything else is


>working quite normally for whatever insider spooks and moles such as

>rabbi Saul Levy, Hagar and our bogus clown �hanson� like to
>contribute.


IT'S PRObably not personal. The google groups search has been awful for
months now.

maybe they thought it would save on kb's or even mb's

mk5000

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From: "marika" <marik...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Crisis Could Hit World by 2030!


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> "marika" <marik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> sure, Edgar G Robinson just as an example
>>
>>>Which time often consists of generating contrent-
>>> free posts wherein they engage in namecalling (e.g., "LIE-
>>> brawl DEMonrat") without addressing the actual topic at hand.
>>
>> Insert Moses line here
>>
>>>
>>> Not that I don't enjoy the "LIEbrawl DEMonrat" stuff. >
>>
>> or here
>>
>> Nefretiri: I could never love you.
>> Rameses: Does that matter? You will be my wife. You will come to me
>> whenever I call you,and I will enjoy that very much. Whether you enjoy it
>> or not is your own affair. But I think you will...
>
>
> where's your Moses now Nyah
>
> CT scan reveals hidden face under Nefertiti bust
>
> In this undated photo composite released Tuesday, March 31, 2009 by
> the Radiological Society of North America, the bust of Nefertiti is
> shown. By PATRICK McGROARTY (Associated Press Writer)
> From Associated Press
> March 31, 2009 11:36 AM EDT
> BERLIN - Researchers in Germany have used a modern medical procedure
> to uncover a secret within one of ancient Egypt's most treasured
> artworks - the bust of Nefertiti has two faces.
>
> A team led by Dr. Alexander Huppertz, director of the Imaging Science
> Institute at Berlin's Charite hospital and medical school, discovered
> a detailed stone carving that differs from the external stucco face
> when they performed a computed tomography, or CT, scan on the bust.
>
> The findings, published Tuesday in the monthly journal Radiology, are
> the first to show that the stone core of the statue is a highly
> detailed sculpture of the queen, Huppertz said.
>
> "Until we did this scan, how deep the stucco was and whether a second
> face was underneath it was unknown," he said. "The hypothesis was that
> the stone underneath was just a support."
>
> The differences between the faces, though slight - creases at the
> corners of the mouth, a bump on the nose of the stone version -
> suggest to Huppertz that someone expressly ordered the adjustments
> between stone and stucco when royal sculptors immortalized the wife of
> Pharaoh Akhenaten 3,300 years ago.
>
> "Changes were made, but some of them are positive, others are
> negative," Huppertz said.
>
> John H. Taylor, a curator for Ancient Egypt and Sudan at the British
> Museum in London, said the scan raises interesting questions about why
> the features were adjusted - but that answers will probably remain
> elusive.
>
> "One could deduce that the final version was considered in some way
> more acceptable than the 'hidden' one, though caution is needed in
> attempting to explain the significance of these changes," Taylor wrote
> in an e-mail.
>
> The bust underwent a similar CT scan in 1992. But the more primitive
> scanner used then only generated cross sections of the statue every 5
> millimeters - not enough detail, Huppertz said, to reveal the subtlety
> of the carving hidden just 1-2 millimeters under the stucco.
>
> Egyptologist Ludwig Borchardt discovered the bust in 1912 and added it
> to Berlin's Egyptian collection on Museum Island, a cluster of five
> neoclassical art halls that make up one of the city's most familiar
> landmarks.
>
> Currently on display at the Altes Museum, the bust will move next door
> when the Neues Museum reopens in October after a lengthy restoration
> by British architect David Chipperfield.
>
> In 2007, Wildung denied a request from Egypt's antiquities chief to
> borrow the bust for an exhibition, saying it was too fragile to
> transport. Huppertz said the results of his scan added credence to
> that claim.
>
> Taylor, the British Museum curator, said the better understanding of
> the bust's structure will also help preserve it.
>
> "The findings are particularly significant for the information they
> shed on the constructional process and the subsurface condition of the
> bust, which will be of value in ensuring its long-term survival in
> good condition" Taylor said.
>
> ---
>
> On the Net:
>
> http://radiology.rsnajnls.org
>

BradGuth

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On Apr 29, 5:51 pm, "marika" <marika5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:ac84653a-399b-4df5...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> Yes in deed, Venusian flying pig farts are the most likely culprits
> (just kidding).
>
> >Oddly, it seems my “Guth Usenet” account is still working like a

> >charm, and meanwhile the regular public Google Groups version of
> >Usenet/newsgroups has gotten selectively nailed shut, as though my
> >stuff is getting stealth moderated to death, where even the search for
> >“Venus Transit Biohazard” comes up empty, though everything else is

> >working quite normally for whatever insider spooks and moles such as
> >rabbi Saul Levy, Hagar and our bogus clown “hanson” like to

> >contribute.
>
> IT'S PRObably not personal.  The google groups search has been awful for
> months now.
>
> maybe they thought it would save on kb's or even mb's
>
> mk5000

It's more like having to deal with GB's of brown-nosed clown crap.

No matters, because I've got a replacement topic.
~ BG

Odysseus

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In article
<578703be-0c33-41e7...@d2g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Can you tell me the date or dates that Venus goes into retrograde?

Venus just went direct a couple of weeks ago, having been retrograde
since early March. It'll remain direct until late next year.

--
Odysseus

Count Gramalkin

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your daily life” Mazurek.
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system of delineation & House Rulers; Whole Sign House System;
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nature; Using first event charts as a natal to predict events; The
Triplicities form of the elements - Fire, Earth, Air, Water in order
around the Zodiac; The cusps, such as being in the Aries/Taurus cusp
or planets loosing power on the cusp; Midpoints Between Planets or
between planets and angles; Natal, Progressed or Cyclic Horoscopes
done for the place of residence rather than the place of birth; Almost
all data about planetary orbs; Dealing with inner-personal
relationships the inner-aspects between charts are much more important
than having supposedly harmonious and inharmonious signs or
consecutive signs or trine ascendants and such. Other items will be
added to this list as they come to mind.
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and MISLEADING. The fundamental problem stems from Classical Greek and
Moorish Astrologers who translated the Zodiac they inherited from the
ancient Egyptians and Babylonians incorrectly. Nothing has been right
since. However, in 1949 the modern day father of astrology the great
Astrologer and Astronomer Cyril Fagan of Dublin, Ireland, (1896-1970)
discovered the mistake. Modern Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrology was
born.
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understand and agree on WHAT THE ZODIAC IS. Galaxies make up
universes; universes make up Cosmic Spheres. Our cosmic sphere is the
matter of which our sun is the center. Rather than being like a
molecule with particles whirling about every which way all the planets
orbit the sun in the same zodiacal ecliptic path of celestial
longitude and that path is the zodiac. The Zodiac is the baseline of
the three dimensional model of our cosmic sphere.
*
The PATH the planets are orbiting through around the Sun is the Zodiac
ecliptic and the path or orbit itself is not moving. For all practical
purposes the path is sitting still and the planets are moving through
the zodiac path around the Sun. Astronomy or ANY type of astrology the
stars and space are in a fixed position and the planets are orbiting
through the stars and space around the Sun. This is physical reality
and Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrology. When you look at the night
sky what you see is Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrology as Sidereal
astrology reckons celestial longitude from the fixed star positions
and Zodiacal Sidereal astrology reckons horoscopes in celestial
longitude. The 12-constellation system validity with fixed star Spica
at 29 Virgo 6'5" epoch 1977 is shown by properly done Ingress
horoscopes.
*
The horizon, equator, seasons and seasonal rotation affect only earth
the Zodiac affects the entire Cosmic Sphere, ZODIACAL SIDEREAL
ASTROLOGY. Sidereal means measured by a star, physical reality. Rather
than being a philosophical matter of opinion this is plain old-
fashioned Physical Astronomical Reality. Regardless of how one
attempts to rationalize any misconception of this matter the Sun will
still Rise in the East in the morning because the Earth is Rotating on
its axis and Revolving about the Sun in its Fixed Zodiacal Sidereal
Ecliptical Orbit.
*
About meaningful astrological research: example - Someone from
antiquity said this or that, many years ago another said so and so and
call that research. Swell pal, however is it actually true, what was
their absolute proof ground of being? How did they do at the track? Or
searching through a databank for rising planets in a case type such as
Natal Horoscopes is only meaningful if one knows and accounts for what
constitutes the ascendant what it means and how to measure it. Of the
most common astrologer errors is incomplete work also the accuracy of
the event data. This is compounded by the fact that few astrologers
even know what complete work is. The horoscope is a scientific
document and must be done accurately with correct documentation to
prove the case. Many scenarios require identification and all manners
of data; professional astrology requires complete accurate I.D. and
coordinates. The more complete and accurate the data the more complete
and accurate the reading.
*
The Case is that due to the Cyril Fagan, his chosen heir the Reverend
Professor John Mazurek and his San Francisco School of Sidereal
Astrology, Count Gramalkin legacy lineage modus operandi of actually
proving the truth and falsehood from the cumulative astrological
research of mankind using money as the primary absolute proof ground
of being, it is hardly news mystic gossip has it that Count Gramalkin
is the scariest astrological figure on the planet.
*
The San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology Technique of
Delineation is holding the synthesized astrological research of
millions of people over the last ten thousand years from many
civilizations with the truth and falsehood proven out of it using
absolute proof ground of being rather than armchair theorizing such as
read a book and call that research.
*
After reading all the books, actually proving which items of the
synthesis of the collective research of astrological history are
actually true and what is false using an absolute proof ground of
being such as money, births, deaths, illness, marriages, divorce,
accidents, inheritance, winning or loosing money, horse races, stock
market. The San Francisco School motto “if it does doesn't work at the
track it doesn't work in your daily life“ is well said indeed.
*
Practically every astrologer on the planet from Hindu to Hoodoo has
been caught out, busted, exposed for dispensing massive amounts of
astrological misinformation delineation cosmic jive that did not pay
off under the scrutiny of cash money on the line astrological
research.
*
The Gavin’s are all terrified. We have seen a bit of what is called
the Gavin Arthur syndrome psychosis. Gavin was a regionally famous
Seasonal Tropicalist Astrologer back in the sixties and seventies.
When we met he admitted to me in private that he knew the Sidereal was
the correct astrology and secretly used it but that he just could not
go back and admit to everyone he had been wrong and giving out
misinformation all these years.
***
One does encounter some hearsay propaganda gossip on the part of a
liar fraud or err and or jealous envious competitor colleagues who
have no first hand knowledge of the case posing self-righteous
indignation who often fear elimination of their authority others such
as Mazurek revel in truth. Sometimes they are even scared to publish
information different than what they are selling. It is the truth
(that which changes not, e.g. cause and effect) regardless of origin
SF School is about.
*
Most astrologers are theorists with zero provable ground of being
application with which to sort the truth and fallacies out of the
multitude of astrological commentary. One can still hear the Old Man
now “self-taught self-styled half-baked authority read a book on Zen
and think they are Buddha." Read some astrology material Harry said
this Billy Bob wrote that call that research then start talking and
writing.
*
Regardless of how accomplished one becomes with the teknoid scenario
or how deeply one delves into antiquity it when it comes to work-a-day
astrology its the comprehension of realistic divination technique
applications which is the most meaningful. Such as a realistic grasp
of the basics: The Art of Synthesis; The Art of Delineation; The Three
Techniques of Delineation; The Intrinsic Values of the Planets; The
Complete File Format Baseline; Fixed Stars and When They Count; The
Operating Law and so forth.
*
This seem so obvious however one may talk to astrologers all day and
be lucky to find one that can even define the art of delineation much
less realize how it actually works. The Art of Delineation is the
individual, and collective intermingling of, intrinsic values count
score on the +&- use applicable adjectives. Collaborating with even
prominent Siderealists it is shocking to read that they lack awareness
that a major part of the art of delineation is to count score if you
will of the +&- repeated patterns of the Intrinsic Values of the
Planets and their areas or stations of application eTc eTc. Example 27
Jupiter's and 11 Venus’s things are going good, 19 Saturn’s 23 Mars’s
with 10 Neptune’s things not going so good. Example Jupiter conjunct
the ascendant equals a plus two, a benefic planet on a superior angle.
Seven Saturn's with one Jupiter there is much less chance of getting
the higher self-manifestation from Saturn. Seven Jupiter's one Saturn
much better chance of getting the higher self-manifestation from
Saturn.
*
Being able to calculate the right ascension of the Aries full moon in
3,036 B.C. old style lacks significance when the astrologer reading a
twentieth century natal or cyclic horoscope fails to realize that for
all practical purposes anything in the constellation on the ascendant
of a natal or cyclic horoscope is angular or of high energy and
intensity in the psychological makeup and prevailing psychological
conditions therefore the events and results of the case at hand. As
above so below as on the inner so on the outer the operating law of
analogy the Hermes Law of correspondences.
*
The teknoids especially the ones that fail to grasp the big picture
tend to try to drag all manor of mathematical what not into it. They
become enthralled with the mathematics of it all, confuse being a
mathematician with being an astrologer and seek an astrological
application for all the astronomical mathematical points most of which
have zero astrological delineation. Essentially Azimuth, Altitude,
Right Ascension, Declination, Equator, Horizon, Apogee and Perigee,
how close a planet is to earth and so forth have nothing to do with
work-a-day astrological delineation. IT IS ZODIACAL SIDEREAL CELESTIAL
LONGITUDE THAT COUNTS.
*
What happens is that when astrologers fail to use a complete file of
horoscope charts for the event it results in mass wandering about
psychic guessing. They wind up grasping at straws using the law of
substitution trying to find symbology to explain the events that
occur. Next thing you know they're talking you how it is straws like
the right ascension of the heliacal rising of the left handed moon
node was EXACTLY paran trine the mundo midpoint between their Mars and
Venus - (see, SEE it's right there!!!). Ask them what the file looks
like and it’s err, Uhh, DA. Things like demi-solars, quarter year
solars and on and on are just not needed when using a complete file.
When using a properly prepared complete horoscope file the repeated
patterns that emerge throughout the file are just too obvious to miss.
Incomplete creates inconsistent.
*
Unless ones RESEARCH is also DISPLAYED in the correctly produced FULL
FILE FORMAT BASELINE there is no way to check what actually happened,
to judge what is really going on in the case at hand and therefore
verify the validity of the research and what realistic relationship
the application of the data has. Again this file begins with ACCURATE
event times and longitude and latitude coordinates.
*
Empirical research is setting up COMPLETE FILES for thousands of cases
in an absolute proof ground of being such as money, births, deaths,
accidents to test each of the theories. Sally Sue will say “oh I
wasn’t depressed last Tuesday” Armchair theorizing is one thing
however one can not kid ones self about the money, either you have the
money or they have the money.
*
Example - Some astrologer wrote a piece assessing the 75 year career
of some monkey (an actor) biased on a singular rising angular planet
with a hundred year old turn of the century 10 AM birth time which
tells us that one is clearly ready for the big therapy in the sky. An
even hour birth time from any era much less one from the beginning of
the twentieth century is most certainly a round off if not an out
right guess. Therefore any speculation about angularity is just that.
Delineate the horoscope chart as a whole in the baseline context of a
complete file. One has a better chance of getting the higher self-
manifestation from a rising planet in a well aspected horoscope than
in a negatively aspected chart, all rising sign planets also sun and
moon aspects affect appearance and so forth et cetera, et cetera, et
cetera.
***
***
Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a
great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades
or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
*
The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety
percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in
some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at
least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on
http://www.siderealastrology.net/ancient_mistake.html - In fact
historical study of astrology may be more of a hindrance than a help
as unlearning and relearning can be much more difficult to impossible
than learning.
*
For example many if not most people infected with seasonal moving
zodiac Tropical astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get
free of attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal
astrology this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign
is different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the
same name or eternally prattling on about the house system of
delineation eTc.
*
Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a
subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw
the sky, the planet surface, the sun, moon or a star who never even
heard of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the
equatorial system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract
with a pencil a set of books and the San Francisco School of Sidereal
Astrology Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer. The
cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real such as
mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician with
being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the astronomy
side of it however unnecessary in doing astrology. The people who so
famously managed to hit the comet half a kajillian miles from earth
with the space probe all knew their astronomy however try getting one
of them to correctly delineate ones horoscope.
*
Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to
make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the
essence of which is given away on http://www.solunars.info - There is
a lot more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the
book.
*
It is very helpful to have a realistic understanding of the Intrinsic
Value of the Planets (the meaning or definition / delineation of the
planets) and where and when to apply them. The one word Intrinsic
Value of the Planets and therefore the Signs delineation (more on
gramalkin.com).
**
Sun/Leo = Spirit; Moon/Cancer = Soul; Mercury/Gemini/Virgo =
Intellect; Venus/Taurus/Libra = Love; Mars/Aries = Sex; Jupiter/
Sagittarius = Win; Saturn/Capricorn = Lose; Uranus/Aquarius =
Intuition; Neptune/Pisces = Imagination; Pluto/Scorpio = Death.
**
"Zodiacal Western Sidereal Constellations or Signs" - Epoch 1950 -
Aries = April 15th; Taurus = May 15th; Gemini = June 15th; Cancer =
July 16th; Leo = Aug 17th; Virgo = Sept 17th; Libra = Oct 17th;
Scorpio = Nov 16th; Sagittarius = Dec 16th; Capricorn = Jan 15th;
Aquarius = Feb 14th; Pisces = March 15th. Actual dates may vary a bit
due to the leap year thingy.
*
The best advice I have for you is to take my best advice. Read and
heed every word of the material on http://www.westernsiderealastrology.info
(the entire contents only amount to a pamphlet). This will provide one
an accurate rendition of the secret of the cosmos / the mystery of
life / enlightenment, how to read / predict it and what to do about
it. Adept at everything on CountGramalkin.Com one would be at will at
one with God co-creators with God. Each article must be composed, as
though it is the only Count Gramalkin article the reader will ever
see. Therefore a certain amount of duplication of information occurs
as a necessity of stating the case.
*
The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of
our cosmic sphere. Reckon horoscopes for the location of birth in
Zodiacal Sidereal Celestial Longitude Ecliptic in the full file format
baseline with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6’:5” Epoch 1977. Full
BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place (Longitude & Latitude),
Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of Houses, Octoscope and
East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major Fixed Star Aspects and
Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second best house system.
*
The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and
Primary Angles (natal data at progressed date); Secondary Natal
Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly Solar Return, Lunar Return and
their daily Progressed Main Angles also the Event Chart inner-aspected
with the Transits and major Fixed Stars to all. The natal horoscope
plus two horoscopes a year, two horoscopes a month and four horoscopes
a day plus the Event Horoscope (Transits which is done for the
location of event) inner-aspected. Incidentally the complete file
format makes it easier to read events rather than harder as the
repeated patterns are too obvious to miss. The essence of the San
Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology Technique of Delineation is
available free as a PDF eBook here. http://www.solunar.info/book_information.html
*
The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
(Sun Moon Jupiter Rising) being the most important factor. One copy of
each horoscope chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope
interaspected. Count Score on +&- intrinsic values to read Higher \
Lower Self, Yes \ No eTc. To delineate in any given sphere, use the
Intrinsic Adjectives common to that sphere. E.g. Venus -
Psychologically = Love & Peace. Mundanely = Food & Clothes. Medically
= Kidney eTc. eTc.
***
In the production of the horoscope all charts should be drawn the same
way in the classical style just like Mazurek taught us at school as
illustrated in the Marilyn Monroe Sample Horoscope available on
http://www.loveadvice.biz/sample_horoscope.html - Horoscopes must be
hand drawn as at the time of this writing there are no known correctly
produced computerized horoscopes.
*
In drawing the horoscope do all math twice and write EVERYTHING left
to right HORIZONTALLY. Date Time and Standard Time of event in the
center. Name, Race, Gender and Place upper left. Coordinates; SVP;
Delta T and GMT to RAMC in the upper right hand corner. Horoscope
Identification in the upper middle Such as: Zodiacal Sidereal
Longitude Natal; Geographic; Campanus; Octoscope; Arabic Lunar
Mansions (and unless you physically see a birth certificate eTc. the
word SPECULATIVE). Whatever decoding is necessary - Major aspects and
angular planets and stars et cetera at the bottom. Draw in all the
angles, the 4 Main, the 4 Octoscope Midpoint and East Point angles.
Midheaven = tenth house cusp, ascendant = first house cusp. Draw
angular planet glyphs on the angle, lacking space draw a line from the
planet glyph across the angle. Dash Lines - - - = A Constellation
Change. Draw one copy of the horoscope taken by its self, another copy
for inner-aspect composite. Draw all composite charts the same way
regardless of which type of chart it is. Natal in the center in black
then Progressed in red then Solar Return in green then Monthly Solar
Return and Lunar Return in available colors finally transits in
pencil.
*
This format for drawing charts is recommended because of being able to
actually read the charts. When dealing with sixty planets and forty-
four fixed stars on the ten charts that make up the complete file
baseline having numbers written going every which way and or zero
consistency, data scattered about, the Midheaven here or there and one
this color the next another makes it difficult to impossible to
physically read and comprehend the file. E.g. whoever drew the file
all secondary progressed in red shazam one immediately knows what one
is dealing with.
*
In real life work-a-day astrology not all hand drawn charts get full
label. A progressed lunar return in a complete file for example may
just have - Progressed Lunar a name, date, coordinates, RAMC etc. On
composite horoscopes one may use just the planet and signs to the
degree, insert minutes for the angles and whatever else is necessary,
zero fixed stars and such just refer back to the original copy of the
chart done by itself as necessary. A second nature realization of the
Intrinsic Values of the Planets (the meaning) is the most important
thing in delineation.
*
The Art of SYNTHESIS; To Synthesize a horoscope chart first look at
the Sun taken by it’s self, then Moon (Sign, Watch, House, Lunar
Mansion), the Ascendant then Midheaven (4 =Quarters). Then Angles
(which Solar Cross/Split Cross/Arabic Lunar Mansion etc.), the most
angular planet and its situation, the next most angular situation.
There are usually two or three basic "the next most Angular
situations."
*
Always consider all charts with all the Techniques of Delineation then
apply the appropriate one for the type of problem being solved.
*
IIA. The Natal Technique of Delineation is used in reading Natal and
Cyclic charts for the “Psychological Makeup / Psychological
Conditions” one is dealing with, therefore the events - as above so
below (With some cyclic exception rules).
Aspects are via Sign and House (Campanus). The angle orbs are: East
Point is always zero degree orb 60‘.
The Constellation on the Ascendant and the first house is the
Ascendant Angle.
Minus ten degrees from the Midheaven and the Tenth House is the
Midheaven Angle.
The Descendent and Nadir minus five degrees and the Angular or
Foreground house constitute the Angle.
The Zodiacal Octoscope Watch Midpoint Angles are at the center of the
8 Watches and have a five-degree orb of Angularity. The Watch Midpoint
Angles are the Zodiacal Midpoints between the four Main Angles. The
Watch Cusps are the midpoints between the main angles and the midpoint
angles. The Octotopus is the Octoscope without the watch cusps.
Watches run clockwise from Ascendant 1=Self/Body-Will Power-Akin to
2nd moon colors mind; 2=Livelihood-$ Work For; 3=Status/Position in
world-Career-Mother-Sisters-Brothers-Travel; 4=Home-$ Get; 5=Others;
6=Health Problems; 7=Spouse-Father-May affect home; 8=Death.
Technically the Angles have a five-degree Angle Orb and planets within
that five degrees are more intense. However for all practical purposes
for Psychological Conditions and Makeup / Character the Constellation
on the Ascendant is Angular eTc.
Interpersonal relationships: inner-aspects you get your own; planets
give to angles; Sun always gives. Natal and cyclic interaspects are by
sign. He has Natal Aries Sun, She has Natal Aries Moon = His Sun/
Spirit is conjunct Her Moon/Soul (the basic yin yang couple polarity)
the closer the stronger. In business X has Jupiter in Gemini; Y has
Saturn in Gemini = X wins. Progressed use close aspects.
*
IIB. The Predictive Technique: The Natal; Secondary Progressed
Planets and Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar
Return, Monthly Solar Return and Lunar Return and their daily
Progressed Main Angles; also the Event Chart inner-aspected with the
Transits and major Fixed Star aspects to all. Reading the Natal,
Cyclic Charts, and Event Chart with a five-degree angle orb and the
Progressed Charts at a zero degree angle orb. Illuminated angularity
being the most important factor (e.g. Sun Moon Jupiter Rising on many
charts etc).
*
IIC. The Progressed Technique: For Timing of Events read all charts
with the Progressed Technique, which is a zero degree Angle and Aspect
orb. Normal rules apply, applying aspects are stronger than separating
etc. Progressed Charts are basically daily charts, however they may be
read as Event Charts with a Natal Technique for a several day span.
The Annual Secondary Progressed a several year span.
***
Manifesting: When there is an orange tail sticking around the corner
and one grabs the tail rather than having a tail one actually has the
entire Tiger. So it is with the “Intrinsic Values of the Planets."
When one identifies having hold of any part of an Intrinsic Value one
actually has the entire planet (or Sign) by the tail. When one is
happy one has Jupiter by the tail and therefore all of the Jupiter
qualities good and bad. The idea is to consciously project the “higher
self” or positive qualities of the Intrinsic Value of case rather than
“lower self-essence dominated reacting” with the lower self-qualities.
Read the Intrinsic Value of the planet in your notes and send out the
+ side. Also read the “Satsang”, “Self Realization” and “Daimoku”
articles on CountGramalkin.Com and it will help you cope with all that
reality nonsense.
*
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*
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the search of true compatibility guidance. CountGramalkin.Com also
helps to improve both spiritual awareness and an every day life
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*
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Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrologer, Tarot Reading and being senior
out of San Francisco School next in line the foremost practicing
DIRECT heir out of his chosen linage of the astrological insights,
knowledge and research of the modern day father of astrology, the
great world famous Western Sidereal Astrologer Astronomer Cyril Fagan
of Dublin, Ireland (1896-1970). There is some natural curiosity about
how The Reverend Professor John Mazurek (1919 - 2oo3) and I came to be
heirs of the Cyril Fagan legacy linage when Cyril said it was so we
took his word for it.
*
Out of the "San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology" directed by
"Fagan's Chosen Heir" the Reverend Professor John Mazurek (1919-2003)
where Gramalkin was privileged to study, and carry Fagan's and
Mazurek's techniques in trust to provide them to the public at large.
Accurate and reliable Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrological Horoscope
Charts with readings, tarot readings, lectures, tutoring and
publication.
*
What many are not aware of is that the very foundation of astrology
most often associated with Western Civilization is in fact incorrect
and misleading. The fundamental problem stems from Classical Greek and
Moorish Astrologers who translated the Zodiac they inherited from the
ancient Egyptians and Babylonians incorrectly. Nothing has been right
since. At www.eclipses.biz you can find the true facts of this and the
thoughts of Count Gramalkin himself; a true Zodiacal Western Sidereal
Astrologer.
*
View Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrology Horoscopes online at
http://www.westernsiderealastrology.info/contact_us.html; from an
acclaimed expert in the Sidereal Zodiac today.
*
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*
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baseline with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive,
Progressed) to see what actually happened the answer becomes very
obvious and major events are so predominant they can not be missed -
every time.
*
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Interesting pretend-Atheist kind of faith-based rant. Are all mental
patients allowed equal internet access?

~ BG


On May 5, 6:18 pm, Count Gramalkin <Gro...@Gramalkin.Com> wrote:
> ***********
> ***
> “Sidereal Horoscopes”
> By
> Count Gramalkin
> *
> Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrologer
> San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
> Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
> 1 877 322 7238 Toll Free -http://www.CountGramalkin.Com-

> Gramal...@Gramalkin.Com

> least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated onhttp://www.siderealastrology.net/ancient_mistake.html- In fact

> essence of which is given away onhttp://www.solunars.info- There is


> a lot more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the
> book.
> *
> It is very helpful to have a realistic understanding of the Intrinsic
> Value of the Planets (the meaning or definition / delineation of the
> planets) and where and when to apply them. The one word Intrinsic
> Value of the Planets and therefore the Signs delineation (more on
> gramalkin.com).
> **
> Sun/Leo = Spirit; Moon/Cancer = Soul; Mercury/Gemini/Virgo =
> Intellect; Venus/Taurus/Libra = Love; Mars/Aries = Sex; Jupiter/
> Sagittarius = Win; Saturn/Capricorn = Lose; Uranus/Aquarius =
> Intuition; Neptune/Pisces = Imagination; Pluto/Scorpio = Death.
> **
> "Zodiacal Western Sidereal Constellations or Signs" - Epoch 1950 -
> Aries = April 15th; Taurus = May 15th; Gemini = June 15th; Cancer =
> July 16th; Leo = Aug 17th; Virgo = Sept 17th; Libra = Oct 17th;
> Scorpio = Nov 16th; Sagittarius = Dec 16th; Capricorn = Jan 15th;
> Aquarius = Feb 14th; Pisces = March 15th. Actual dates may vary a bit
> due to the leap year thingy.
> *
> The best advice I have for you is to take my best advice. Read and

> heed every word of the material onhttp://www.westernsiderealastrology.info

> available free as a PDF eBook here.http://www.solunar.info/book_information.html


> *
> The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity
> (Sun Moon Jupiter Rising) being the most important factor. One copy of
> each horoscope chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope
> interaspected. Count Score on +&- intrinsic values to read Higher \
> Lower Self, Yes \ No eTc. To delineate in any given sphere, use the
> Intrinsic Adjectives common to that sphere. E.g. Venus -
> Psychologically = Love & Peace. Mundanely = Food & Clothes. Medically
> = Kidney eTc. eTc.
> ***
> In the production of the horoscope all charts should be drawn the same
> way in the classical style just like Mazurek taught us at school as

> illustrated in the Marilyn Monroe Sample Horoscope available onhttp://www.loveadvice.biz/sample_horoscope.html- Horoscopes must be

> *www.starmanpress.comannounces new edition eBooks give-away improved


> basic astrology horoscopes and tarot techniques with the Cyril Fagan /
> John Mazurek / Count Gramalkin San Francisco School of Sidereal
> Astrology Technique of Delineation. Learn Foretelling the Future tell

> ones own fortune now given away with zero spyware/spam/virus onwww.gramalkin.com- Note the SFSSATD, The Count Gramalkin Sidereal


> Horoscopes Chronicle Current Edition, Fortuneteller Manual, Tarot
> Manual, and Jesus Nativity by Reverend John Mazurek among other new
> edition PDF eBook links. Click on the Book Information and Stars=Cards
> tabs the cumulative research of millions of people from many
> civilizations over the last 10,000 years.
> *
> An expertly trained professional astrologist, capable of administering
> all phases of Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrology and Tarot - love,
> money, health, spiritual evolution, psychological makeup, selection,
> business and relationships compatibility profile to help both women
> and men successfully interact with persons, corporations or towns in
> the search of true compatibility guidance. CountGramalkin.Com also
> helps to improve both spiritual awareness and an every day life
> condition.

> *www.siderealzodiac.infois the home of Count Gramalkin; Professional


> Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrologer, Tarot Reading and being senior
> out of San Francisco School next in line the foremost practicing
> DIRECT heir out of his chosen linage of the astrological insights,
> knowledge and research of the modern day father of astrology, the
> great world famous Western Sidereal Astrologer Astronomer Cyril Fagan
> of Dublin, Ireland (1896-1970). There is some natural curiosity about
> how The Reverend Professor John Mazurek (1919 - 2oo3) and I came to be
> heirs of the Cyril Fagan legacy linage when Cyril said it was so we
> took his word for it.
> *
> Out of the "San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology" directed by
> "Fagan's Chosen Heir" the Reverend Professor John Mazurek (1919-2003)
> where Gramalkin was privileged to study, and carry Fagan's and
> Mazurek's techniques in trust to provide them to the public at large.
> Accurate and reliable Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrological Horoscope
> Charts with readings, tarot readings, lectures, tutoring and
> publication.
> *
> What many are not aware of is that the very foundation of astrology
> most often associated with Western Civilization is in fact incorrect
> and misleading. The fundamental problem stems from Classical Greek and
> Moorish Astrologers who translated the Zodiac they inherited from the
> ancient Egyptians and Babylonians incorrectly. Nothing has been right

> since. Atwww.eclipses.bizyou can find the true facts of this and the


> thoughts of Count Gramalkin himself; a true Zodiacal Western Sidereal
> Astrologer.
> *

> View Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrology Horoscopes online athttp://www.westernsiderealastrology.info/contact_us.html;from an


> acclaimed expert in the Sidereal Zodiac today.
> *
> To receive The Count Gramalkin “Sidereal Horoscopes” Chronicle send an

> email to Sider...@Gramalkin.Com with “Chronicle Please” in the subject


> field.
> *
> So far invariably once one views the correctly done complete file
> baseline with the three delineation techniques (Natal, Predictive,
> Progressed) to see what actually happened the answer becomes very
> obvious and major events are so predominant they can not be missed -
> every time.
> *
> SHOW ME THE FILE, better yet show it to your self. Angels can fly
> because they take themselves lightly.
> **
> 1 877 322 7238 Toll Free -http://www.CountGamalkin.Com-

> Gramal...@Gramalkin.Com
> **
> The credentials for this data are displayed at these URL's.http://www.gramalkin.com/gramalkins_resume.htmlhttp://www.gramalkin.com/book_information.htmlhttp://www.gramalkin.com/gramalkin_layout_chart.html


> *
> Good luck love thank you amen Om,
> *
> Count Gramalkin
> *******
> "Order “The Mystery Revealed” eBook v5-5.9"
> To order The Reverend Count Gramalkin eBook “The Mystery Revealed”
> Premium Edition which explains the mystery of life, how to read and
> predict it and what to do about it PayPal a $29 minimum donation to
> this email address.
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Mandingo

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Interesting

BradGuth

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On May 7, 4:38 am, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 11:57 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 6:29 pm, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 6, 7:50 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 6, 4:41 pm, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 6, 2:34 pm, Saul Levy <saulle...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Geez, Count, could you keep the posting down please?  lmfjao!
>
> > > > > > We really don't need this!
>
> > > > > > Saul Levy
>
> > > > > > On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Count Gramalkin

>
> > > > > > <Gro...@Gramalkin.Com> wrote:
> > > > > > >“Sidereal Horoscopes”
> > > > > > >By
> > > > > > >Count Gramalkin
> > > > > > >*
> > > > > > >Zodiacal Western Sidereal Astrologer
> > > > > > >San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology
> > > > > > >Spiritual Evolution Self Realization Truth Seeker
>
> > > > > > [meaningless BULLSHIT deleted, unread as usual]
>
> > > > > You can blame me for that.  I had a feeling they would come out of the
> > > > > woodwork. But that is to be expected.
>
> > > > > Saul, in all honesty, why do you think the Vatican is investing
> > > > > millions in astronomy if they are not looking for the star of
> > > > > revelation?  Wormwood, Spermwood, the name doesn't matter. They are
> > > > > looking for an incoming object because they have information that it
> > > > > exists. They are investigating UFO's and Alien abduction because they
> > > > > know they both exist and are not sparing any expense. The Vatican's
> > > > > actions and posture on these issues are a sign of the times.
>
> > > > > RT
>
> > > > Perhaps the pope and others of his kind are just looking for those
> > > > young ET quire boys that can be abused without any local fear of ever
> > > > being held accountable.
>
> > > >  ~ BG
>
> > > I'll have to investigate that angle.  I'll get back to you.
>
> > > RT
> > > PS Those images?  Either you got to do better or I have to get better
> > > equipment......
>
> > In other words, you've got nothing as good, much less any better, so
> > instead you just obfuscate.  Christ almighty, I should have known.
> >  ~ BG
>
> BG,
> If you are going to convince people concerning your claims you have to
> produce pictures that are beyond reproach.  You haven't done that. I
> am not an astronomer or a photographer therefore I have no way of
> verifying your claims. It's the same thing with my paranormal claims.
> Remember that picture I sent you.  There wasn't enough data to
> convince anyone and I know that. I just love to stir the pot. Not that
> I am insincere but that I enjoy doing it because it does make some
> people think.  You are doing the same thing by throwing up pictures
> that are inconclusive. What you get in the process is the name calling
> and Saul having a field day. What do you actually expect?
>
> Just being honest,
> RT

btw, why did you strip out these other newsgroups? sci.space.policy,
misc.education, misc.education.science, sci.econ

You can't judge squat because you can't even accomplish a most basic
image enlargement. In other words, you are totally disingenuous.

Those natural and artificial looking items can be peer replicated as
often as you like. However, you don't even understand what a radar
obtained pixel is, so what's the difference.

Your clownish methods of toying with others for the sheer sport of it
all is noted. As I said, you are being quite disingenuous and
otherwise bipolar fictitious in order to suit your closed mindset.

You are the fool of a village idiot that likes conversing and toying
with a devout Zionist Nazi rabbi, not me. Unlike your pretend self, I
call folks for exactly what they are, whereas you just toy along and
brown-nose for the ride, regardless of the collateral damage and
consequences of your actions.

~ BG

BradGuth

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On May 7, 11:44 am, Mandingo <arslosi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Interesting

What's the hell is "interesting" about the stupid or rather pathetic
question:

"Can you tell me what date or dates Venus goes into retrograde?"

~ BG

BradGuth

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Given a topic of such nicely recorded history and of perfectly valid
science, using conventional physics and biology all rolled into one
composite review, that’s fully interrelated to one another apparently
isn’t quite good enough, not even if tens of thousands of avoidable
influenza deaths could become an accomplishment that’s well enough
within decade old technology. Gee whiz, why am I not the lest bit
surprised that certain faith-based and politically mindset types would
be so adamantly opposed to this topic.

I’ve edited/revised the following, so as to make as much sense of it
all, but you should judge for yourself, and please do bother to share
whatever interpretations or better ideas.

“The Guth Venus Transit Biohazard”, or has this topic become another
one of those “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” public damage-control situations
about this dark and scary panspermia flu.

So far this highly unusual and unexpected influenza isn't so bad, but
that could change at nearly any moment into a full blown #6 pandemic,
with yet no vaccine in sight, and if you're not of reasonably good
health to start off with you could die, exactly as previously tens of
thousands have, and therefore the risk of such flu related death is
going to be 99% disproportionate upon the middle class and especially
the poor, whereas few if any of the rich and powerful will have to
die.

For those of us in perpetual panspermia denial, for god’s sake don’t
bother yourself to look now, but guess what became nicely aligned as
of March 26, 2009
Solar system simulator (run this simulation for yourself)
http://www.faustweb.net/solaris/

This swine flu related topic isn’t even 0.1% my idea, however, if
Venusian atmospheric particles including microbes and spores were
capably moving right along within the 300+ km/s solar wind, as such
they would make that interplanetary trek within as little as 36 hours,
though more than likely taking at least 72 hours once said microbes
and spores get dragged and pushed at least 4r away from Venus. If
terrestrial water bears (tardigrades) can survive weeks of naked space
travel, as having recently been proven to be the case via the ESA/
Russian FOTON-M3 mission, then why not a whole lot tougher spores and
microbes as were strongly suggested by Barber in 1963.

A Russian cockroach has become the first ever species to conceive in
space, after having spent twelve days in orbit as part of the Russian
Foton M3 space mission, and has given birth to offspring. That’s all
we need is an invading swarm of rad-hard Venusian cockroaches, because
we couldn’t even gamma nuke our way out of that one.

It seems entirely logical that our naked Selene/moon should also be
nicely loaded with such space trekking spores, at least of their
vacuum dried, solar baked out and gamma plus X-ray traumatized
remains, though otherwise physically in tact.

The Panspermia Hypothesis (Swine Flu / SARS A/H1N1 ~ H5N7 and so
forth)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/1616042.html

According to Dirk Schulze-Makuch:
http://www.geo.utep.edu/faculty_staff/schulze.htm
http://www.nextbio.com/b/search/author/Dirk%20Schulze-Makuch
“The gist of the prediction is that 15 to 60 days following the Venus
inferior conjunction is a prime time to be on guard for new biological
visitors.” This doesn’t represent that all such outbreaks are via
panspermia, just further qualifying as to how many of the most
unexpected outbreaks seem to happen as so unusually wide spread and
shortly after this planetary alignment, is difficult science to
ignore.

This outdated and for the most part forgotten research looks pretty
convincing enough, and I concur that we got ourselves into yet another


Venus panspermia shot of solar wind transferred atmospheric spores and

microbes, as primarily within this first quarter of the Earth-Venus
584 day synodic cycle, that’ll perhaps take a few more agonizing weeks
to filter down and throughout our atmosphere before thus biological
threat returns to a primarily terrestrial matter. Sorry about that.

Too bad we didn’t manage to collect samples of Venus atmospheric
microbes and spores as of long before now, whereas our CDC and others

in charge of protecting us could have anticipated and even having
developed a working set of vaccines. Perhaps a scientifically
replicated red flag kind of ET biological warfare warning as of 45+
years ago is simply not quite good enough, especially when faith-based
groups and their puppet governments of that era and most of this era
insist Eden/Earth has to remain the one and only planet hosting life
of any complex nature. After all, if Venus has been giving us such
spores and microbes as complex and tough as the series of H1N1 ~ H5N7,
then there has to be other more robust and complex forms of ET life to
behold.

Venus probably does not have swine/pigs, but if it did they could
probably just as easily fly in that thick soup of an atmosphere that’s
worth 65 kg/m3 buoyancy, plus their local 90% gravity certainly
couldn’t hurt of you were a flying pig. Obviously there’s always the
random chance of panspermia cross mutations taking place whenever
something of new genetic material arrives into our nearly ideal
biological friendly petri dish environment, but again we wouldn’t want
to actually take notice of anything that’s making tens of millions
sick as a dog and otherwise capable of killing off hundreds of
thousands every 19 month cycle, as representing anything worthy of
mentioning or much less doing anything truly constructive about, as
that would only set a bad example of what we elders might expect from
the next generation that’s supposed to be so much smarter.

Btw, according to somewhat recent research, Earth has its very own
high flying species of atmospheric microbes surviving at <41 km, and
it’s highly probable that Venus is hosting microbes of its very own at
something near or above 100 km, which could be easily excavated away
from Venus by sufficient solar winds. Perhaps it’s lucky for us this
time around, in that our solar winds were averaging below 500 km/s and
dropping off to as little as 250 km/s, though as of March 13 we got
hit by 550 km/s, and as of lately we’re getting hit by 300+ km/s,
which is below average. So, if such spores and microbes should only
move along at 0.5>0.1 the solar wind velocity, we might figure this
latest panspermia dosage is not over until the fat lady sings, or at
least 60 some odd days past the Venus transit, as having to
accommodate whatever terrestrial time it takes for those new arrivals
to dissolve or assimilate into our comparatively wet and microbial
friendly environment.

From Venus the microbe/spore panspermia batch or volumetric transfer
process that’ll eventually encounter Earth would have started on it’s
way as of a few days up to a couple weeks or possibly a month prior to
the solar transit phase as viewed from Earth. So it’s actually those
solar winds as of prior to the actual Venus transit that matters most,
such as March 13~15, 2009 had a fairly good wind of 550 km/s (possibly
as great as 750 km/s getting past Venus due to the closer heliocentric
distance), and even as early onset as April 26~28 seems likely, as it
takes time in order to accelerate such microbes and spores away from
the escape velocity of Venus.
http://www.solen.info/solar/old_reports/2009/march/solwind.html
http://www.solen.info/solar/old_reports/2009/april/solwind.html
http://spaceweather3.com/archive.php?month=03&day=25&year=2009&view=view

The remainder of 2009 and the first 10 months of 2010 should be
relatively terrestrial flu related. However, as of November 20, 2010
should represent the start our next panspermia flu season. As they
say, don’t drink the public water and only eat well cooked foods when
you travel, goes double for avoiding panspermia microbes and spores.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

~ http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en


vtcapo

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BG,
What the fuck? Everyone is getting thin skinned around here. Give me
a break.

>btw, why did you strip out these other newsgroups? sci.space.policy, misc.education, misc.education.science, sci.econ

Never stripped any NG’s. Just wrote my comment and pushed send. You’re
getting paranoid.

>You can't judge squat because you can't even accomplish a most basic 
image enlargement. In other words, you are totally disingenuous.

I thought you knew that from the get go. The best I could do is say
“very interesting” and keep it for future reference. The only
credentials I possess are to teach Secondary Math/Computer Science
6-12. Saul is more qualified to judge your claims and you know his
opinion.

>Those natural and artificial looking items can be peer replicated as 
often as you like. However, you don't even understand what a radar 
obtained pixel is, so what's the difference.

Like I said. I don’t know jack. But I know a good picture when I see
one. Not to compare you with Nancy and ZetaTalk but she couldn’t
produce either. And when the time for the great reveal came, it turned
out bogus. You talk about “peer replicated” how about Peer Reviewed.
Have you submitted your findings for Peer review? If you have, I’d
like to see their review. If you haven’t, why?

>Your clownish methods of toying with others for the sheer sport of it 
all is noted. As I said, you are being quite disingenuous and 
otherwise bipolar fictitious in order to suit your closed mindset.

Closed mindset? Where in the fuck have you been? I don’t know what
coloring book you’ve been looking at but my book shows my pages being
colored outside the lines. I’m as liberal as they come and sure don’t
hide that fact. Disingenuous because I joust with Saul?
Pleasseeee…………….. Disingenuous because I tell you the truth. Now
we’re talking.

>You are the fool of a village idiot that likes conversing and toying 
with a devout Zionist Nazi rabbi, not me. Unlike your pretend self, I 
call folks for exactly what they are, whereas you just toy along and 
brown-nose for the ride, regardless of the collateral damage and 
consequences of your actions.

Nothing pretend about me. What you see is what you get. What is it
all of a sudden that upsets you? Can’t be my belief in the paranormal?
That’s old news. UFO’s? No, we belong to the same camp. Global
Warming, Panspermia, Directed or otherwise? Again, I’m with you there.
Venus? Not my question about Venus in retrograde? Christ, I should
have known better. I AM talking to (choke) scientists on this NG. I
should have known they wouldn’t have a clue concerning the Venus Orion
retrograde loop. I know that brought in “The Count” and I apologized
for that. Guilty of trolling……got me! But you and I know, that’s not
it. It’s because I told you the truth about your images. You take
yourself too seriously.

One more thing. This Zionist Nazi rant you are addicted to. Have you
actually known a Nazi? Are you German? Have you been through the war
or have you had actual contact with people who have? I married into a
German family. My wife is 1st generation. Her farther was on the other
side. He WAS a Nazi. You want me to tell you some war stories? I got
war stories. By the way Warhol, if you are listening, the holocaust
DID happen you stupid fuck.

You see, the old man after the war went back to being a detective and
aside from being instrumental in breaking up the black markets that
existed in Germany after the war he did some local Nazi hunting. Now
HE had some fucking war stories! When it got to hot for him in
Germany he was shipped off to Canada where he and his family started a
new life. Zionist Nazi's! You need to get new material.

Saul is nothing more than a right wing conservative republican that is
still pissed off over the election. How did Bill Maher put it? He
compared the Republicans to a man whose been married to a woman for 8
years only to find out that she’s been cheating on him and ran off
with this other guy. And the other guy is BLACK! You know, once you
go black you never come back. If you can understand that, you can
understand Saul’s pain. Pissed off Jew, yes. Zionist Nazi, no. Spook,
disinformation artist? You give him way too much credit.

Get a grip man; can’t we all just get along?

RT
PS I guess no more Gold Stars for me…….


BradGuth

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May 7, 2009, 11:20:36 PM5/7/09
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Stop making up excuses for your bipolarism form of pretend dumbfounded
blindness.

You are the one that's infomercial generalizing about the planet
Venus, as in 100% mainstream status quo or bust.

You've never actually studied the planet Venus, and yet you claim
being an expert about everything pertaining to such, and yet you
clearly know nothing of digital image processing or observationology.
Aren't you special.

Btw, Hitler was a dumb little shithead of an artist. Catholics or
Muslims were not helping Hitler in the physics, science and banking
realms of WWII. Do the math. On the other hand, perhaps yourself,
Art Deco and rabbi Saul Levy deserve each other.

~ BG

Pat Flannery

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May 8, 2009, 3:40:15 AM5/8/09
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Mandingo wrote:
> Interesting
>

A very Spock-like response to celebrate the opening of the new Star Trek
movie, no doubt.
(Space Girls in big boots and miniskirts...Go For It! GO FOR IT!) :-D

Pat

vtcapo

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I studied the astrological aspects of Venus. Remember, my approach to
all this is from the metaphysical side. This is something that I don't
expect a welcoming audience, considering the NG I'm contending with.
But that's the whole point. I like being the fly in the ointment. BG,
you need to pour yourself a glass of wine, light one up, take a deep
inhale and chill.

Like I said, you take yourself too seriously,
RT

RT

BradGuth

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On May 8, 4:17 am, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I studied the astrological aspects of Venus.  Remember, my approach to
> all this is from the metaphysical side. This is something that I don't
> expect a welcoming audience, considering the NG I'm contending with.
> But that's the whole point.  I like being the fly in the ointment. BG,
> you need to pour yourself a glass of wine, light one up, take a deep
> inhale and chill.
>
> Like I said, you take yourself too seriously,
> RT

You do realize this sub-topic of yours is entirely off-topic.

You do realize that I have offered dozens of other topics specifically
dealing with the planet Venus.

There's nothing metaphysical, UFOish, paranormal or astrology worthy
about the planet Venus. The planet Venus is objectively as real as it
gets, and folks like yourself are too snookered and/or dumbfounded
past the point of no return to matter.

Silly me, why of course you don't realize anything that really
matters, which is exactly why you and others of your kind don't care
about panspermia flu bugs or those if us that get to needlessly suffer
and die.

~ BG

Warhol

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May 9, 2009, 11:16:46 AM5/9/09
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> war stories. By the wayWarhol, if you are listening, the holocaust

> DID happen you stupid fuck.
>
> You see, the old man after the war went back to being a detective and
> aside from being instrumental in breaking up the black markets that
> existed in Germany after the war  he did some local Nazi hunting.  Now
> HE had some fucking war stories!  When it got to hot for him in
> Germany he was shipped off to Canada where he and his family started a
> new life.   Zionist Nazi's! You need to get new material.
>
> Saul is nothing more than a right wing conservative republican that is
> still pissed off over the election. How did Bill Maher put it?  He
> compared the Republicans to a man whose been married to a woman for  8
> years only to find out that she’s been cheating on him and ran off
> with this other guy. And the other guy is BLACK!  You know, once you
> go black you never come back. If you can understand that, you can
> understand Saul’s pain.  Pissed off Jew, yes. Zionist Nazi, no. Spook,
> disinformation artist? You give him way too much credit.
>
> Get a grip man; can’t we all just get along?
>
> RT
> PS I guess no more Gold Stars for me…….


The zios are getting deperate now to keep this lie alive, too many
people looking into it and waking up. They are now trying to force the
so called Warholy man to lie, let's see if he does!

A death certificate confirming death by gassing would be a good
start,as in a little proof.

why don't these jews start providing some evidence to back their case
instead of jailing people that look into their fairytales?

vtcapo

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May 10, 2009, 9:51:00 AM5/10/09
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Warhol,
You and all those that claim the Holocaust did not exist are in
Holocaust denial. Does your family have some skeletons in their
closet? Is that what it is or are you as I mentioned before, "A
STUPID FUCK"? My wife's paternal side had skeletons in their closet
but at least he did the right thing. The old man (may he rest in
peace), worked for the Allies and helped nail some Nazi bastards. The
maternal side was, just let me say, the mothers maiden name was
Rosenbaum. I have first hand information the Holocaust happened from
two reliable sources on both sides of the barbed wire. Go fuck
yourself concerning death certificates. The only one that will be
worth anything is the one with your name on it. There is no excuse
for your ignorance anymore. The only remedy for people like you is a
bullet in the head. It's no wonder you European assholes can't take
care of your own back yard. You still can't decipher your own past.

Not too long ago Europe let genocide happen in Yugoslavia and we had
to straighten out your mess as Europe circle jerked around it. Europe
will get its just desserts with the likes of its Moslem population
that they permitted to over run their population. It's one thing to
have Mexicans flooding into this country who love our culture and want
to assimilate and acquire the American Dream and another to let a
people in that despises Western Civilization and want its downfall.
The fall of Europe by a Moslem invasion as predicted by Nostradamus
seems inevitable and is occurring as we speak. Unless it purges itself
of people like Warhol, the Moors will once again take over.

RT

BradGuth

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May 10, 2009, 11:16:40 AM5/10/09
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There's no such denial, just the whole truth and nothing but the
truth, whereas obviously that's going beyond the limited scope of your
faith-based infomercial bloated and closed mindset.

What's that matter with revising the record of history in order to
objectively reflect the best available truth(s) as to the whole scope
of WWII, including the extremely bloody host of truly horrific
Holocaust tragedies before and after WWII?

Don't folks other than white Jews count? (apparently not by your
highly racist interpretation)

What makes you think Hitler and his company of bad guys and bad gals
as his loyal minions were being helped by those Jew hating Atheists
from Mars?

Are you suggesting there's no such thing as a bad Jew?

What part of our western style of screwing humanity and that of our
frail environment pleases you the most?

~ BG

vtcapo

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May 10, 2009, 12:42:33 PM5/10/09
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BG,
I guess you are a total ass as others think. My comments were directed
towards those who suffer from Holocaust denial. Don't confuse the
issue by lecturing everyone on the atrocities that existed before
WWII. All you have to do is read a history book.

Don’t other folks count? Good Jew, bad Jew?............ Are you
stupid? Europe is moving rapidly towards the brink. Europeans know
it, Warhol knows it. If they perform in concert like the French did
in WWII, the Berka will be the new rage before too long.

>What part of our western style of screwing humanity and that of our 
frail environment pleases you the most?

And I thought I was a bleeding heart liberal. You make me nauseous…

RT
PS You need to move your sights away from Venus and take a good look
around.

BradGuth

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May 10, 2009, 1:14:30 PM5/10/09
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On May 10, 9:42 am, vtcapo <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> BG,
> I guess you are a total ass as others think. My comments were directed
> towards those who suffer from Holocaust denial. Don't confuse the
> issue by lecturing everyone on the atrocities that existed before
> WWII. All you have to do is read a history book.
>
> Don’t other folks count? Good Jew, bad Jew?............ Are you
> stupid? Europe is moving rapidly towards the brink.  Europeans know
> it, Warhol knows it. If they perform in concert  like the French did
> in WWII, the Berka will be the new rage before too long.
>
> >What part of our western style of screwing humanity and that of our 
frail environment pleases you the most?
>
> And I thought I was a bleeding heart liberal. You make me nauseous…
>
> RT
> PS You need to move your sights away from Venus and take a good look
> around.

In other words, you, Art Deco (aka Saul Levy) and any number of
mainstream brown-nosed clowns don't really want the whole truth and
nothing but the ugly truth(s) to be told, much less officially revised
into the published public record for all to learn from.

Did any of those Berka wearing and otherwise raghead folks help Stalin
or especially Hitler with his daunting physics, science and global
banking?

Did any of those Berka wearing and otherwise raghead folks X-ray those
100,000 dark skinned Jewish kids with a 35,000 irradiation dosage?

Did any of those Berka wearing and otherwise raghead folks help the
Pope exterminate hundreds of thousands of Cathars?

Did any of those Berka wearing and otherwise raghead folks attack our
USS/USN LIBERTY?

Did any of those Berka wearing and otherwise raghead folks help
perpetrate decades of our bogus cold war?

Is it OK for our government to use others in order to accomplish our
cold war dirty work, and then to lie to such Berka wearing and
otherwise raghead folks that helped us further traumatize the USSR
that was only trying to eliminate the global supply of Taliban
produced drugs?

~ BG

vtcapo

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May 10, 2009, 1:49:00 PM5/10/09
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And now the Russians are the good guys? You are certifiable!

RT

BradGuth

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Then you're saying there's no such thing as a bad Yid. Don't worry,
we got your number 666, loud and clear.

Outside of mean old Stalin and his brown-nosed minions (aka faith-
based goons of the Zionist persuasion), it seems the other 99.9% of
Russians were hard working and a whole lot nicer than most, including
the majority of those Jewish Russians. Do try to remember that 90% of
the German part of WWII was nailed by those Russians that you
obviously hate, along with all others you seem to hate because they're
either French, Islamic, Mexican, a little too African or simply not
quite Zionist/Jewish white enough to suit your perverted mindset of
who should be in charge.

If not for Russia and even France, we'd all be blue eyed, blond and
speaking a Yiddish form of German.

Perhaps the only true biohazard here is that of your DNA, as proof
positive that panspermia and subsequent skewed evolution does in fact
exist.

~ BG

vtcapo

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May 10, 2009, 4:23:12 PM5/10/09
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666...................... no, I won't go there. I deal with
irrational teenagers 5 days a week. I won't do it on weekends. If your
behavior doesn't change for the better we will have to Baker Act you!

RT

BradGuth

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And this pathetic sub-rant of yours has exactly what to do with "The
Venus Transit Biohazard"?

I though you indicated that you were smarter and could read better
than most.

~ BG

BradGuth

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Warhol

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May 10, 2009, 6:48:32 PM5/10/09
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Of course we the Moors shall retake what is rightfully ours... So is
it written and so will it be....

And I will teach aggressors a lesson'... with ONE ROCK.

11 Million Germans Were Murdered Post Wwii
http://tinyurl.com/puowb6

Wake up people the yids and their masters are liars... so simple is
the hole truth.

"Our present interpretation of the Holocaust has been deliberately
devised by American Jewish groups for purposes of ethnic supremacy,
political advantage and financial gain ... In more recent years, the
Holocaust industry has effectively turned into a shake-down racket in
which more and more countries throughout Europe are being bludgeoned
into coughing up compensation." -
(Norman Finkelstein)

and lest not forget.... Herman Rosenblat and his wife, who claimed to
have met when he was a child in the Buchenwald concentration camp and
she was a town girl who would throw food over the fence for him, made
up their tale of young romance. The truth is that they first met on a
blind date in New York.

Oprah Winfrey broke her silence about former guest Herman Rosenblat,
saying she's "very disappointed" in his now discredited story about
meeting his future wife in a Nazi concentration camp. "That's what
happens with lies," Winfrey said on an episode of "The Oprah Winfrey
Show" that aired Friday. "They get bigger and bigger and bigger."

Theyids are a mafia race they must be taken out from the head down.It
may take extreme violence to end this.In fact I'm sure of this.


BradGuth

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> The yids are a mafia race they must be taken out from the head down.It

> may take extreme violence to end this.In fact I'm sure of this.

Most folks, especially within this Usenet naysay cesspool of lies,
obfuscation and denial, do not give any tinkers damn about anyone
else. However, at least Hitler and his Zionist friends of physics,
science and global banking would certainly be extremely proud of what
has been accomplished as of long after his death.

~ BG

vtcapo

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> 11 Million Germans Were Murdered Post Wwiihttp://tinyurl.com/puowb6

>
> Wake up people the yids and their masters are liars... so simple is
> the hole truth.
>
> "Our present interpretation of the Holocaust has been deliberately
> devised by American Jewish groups for purposes of ethnic supremacy,
> political advantage and financial gain ... In more recent years, the
> Holocaust industry has effectively turned into a shake-down racket in
> which more and more countries throughout Europe are being bludgeoned
> into coughing up compensation." -
> (Norman Finkelstein)
>
> and lest not forget.... Herman Rosenblat and his wife, who claimed to
> have met when he was a child in the Buchenwald concentration camp and
> she was a town girl who would throw food over the fence for him, made
> up their tale of young romance. The truth is that they first met on a
> blind date in New York.
>
> Oprah Winfrey broke her silence about former guest Herman Rosenblat,
> saying she's "very disappointed" in his now discredited story about
> meeting his future wife in a Nazi concentration camp. "That's what
> happens with lies," Winfrey said on an episode of "The Oprah Winfrey
> Show" that aired Friday. "They get bigger and bigger and bigger."
>
> Theyids are a mafia race they must be taken out from the head down.It
> may take extreme violence to end this.In fact I'm sure of this.

You trying to sound mafia to me. You’re talking to a New York Sicilian
putz! By the way, the expression is, " a fish smells at the head “
that’s why you cut it off. However, if you plan on cutting off this
head (Jewish State), it will spell your own destruction. You think the
Jews will permit another Holocaust? They will toast the entire region
before that happens.….......... You know what? Not a bad fucking
ideal! A localized nuclear war………. Armageddon Lite! That would
work. Sort of like laser surgery. Get rid of the cancer, cauterize
the wound and let it heal for a few thousand years. What is the half-
life of plutonium anyway?

I'd go for that....

RT

BradGuth

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"" see, I too can quote everything, just like certain other idiots
that can't stay even remotely on topic.
~ BG

Warhol

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Typical jew tactic...you completely ignore the message and attack the
messenger

Your Holocaust crap propaganda has been exposed, the only defence you
have is locking people up who question any aspect of the Holohoax.

you are terrified of the truth. You jews have used your holohoax to
blackmail and brainwash the western world....I can tell you we have
had enough of you lying zionists

Any historic event in this world can be analyzed,debated or questioned
except your precious Holocaust.

Even if you controlled 99.9% of media, the truth would still persist.

What will the Zio/yids do now that their crimes are being exposed all
over the place
The Zio/yids can no longer work in secret as they have been doing for
nearly 200 years, things have changed big time for them, everything
they try to do in secret is exposed super fast on the Internet. We
know they are trying to censor the Internet. Obanana wants to make
Holohoax denial a crime, they are trying to label criticism of Zionism
"anti-semitic", but the cat is out of the bag. So what are they going
to do now? This needs to be looked at!

Here is an interesting article, some possible scenarios!


____________________________________________

What Will The Jews Do?

Submitted by Administrator on Sun, 03/15/2009 - 12:14 With increasing
global awareness of the crimes perpetrated by the Jewish crime
network, especially because of the internet, the Jews are getting
worried. What will the Jews do? It’s predictable.

Increase pro-Jew propaganda

This should be obvious, and will fall under the following two
categories.

Attempt to create more sympathy for the Jews

The Jews will step up their Holocaust hoax propaganda and stage
more phony hate attacks against Jews – such as the spray painting of
swastikas – to create sympathy for the Jews. But millions will respond
thus; the phony behaviors will be seen for what they are.

Bring greater attention to ‘positive’ contributions of the Jewish
community

Jews will increase media praise for Jewish creativity and
cultural, technological and scientific contributions. Jews will
attempt to portray themselves as invaluable to maintaining a healthy
and advanced society, a great boon to society. But how long will this
ruse work?

Diversionary tactics: Increase focus on the fringe elements of non-
Jewish groups; pit races against each other

Jews will bring increased attention to the fringe elements of non-
Jewish races/ethnic groups to divert attention away from themselves.
The fringe elements will disproportionately involve criminals, thereby
increasing dislike of the ethnic group on the part of others. Some of
these fringe elements will be entirely kosher, i.e., Jew creations
such as the numerous phony ‘white supremacist’ groups out there.

The Jews will step up their deception

We have discussed numerous deceptive techniques used by the Jews.
Expect to encounter them with increased frequency. There’s one
deception that will be of special interest.

Partition the Jews into a ‘good, decent majority’ and a fringe
malicious minority

When blaming mysterious groups such as the Illuminati,
Bilderbergers and New World Order increasingly falls on deaf ears,
expect to see the blame to increasingly fall upon a Jewish sub-group.
The Jews will blame the Zionist extremists, a small number of Jewish
banking families such as the Rothschilds, Chabad Lubavitch, etc. They
may also claim that some of these groups, such as Chabad Lubavitch
Jews, are not true Jews.

Such deception will at most buy the Jews more time. Chabad
Lubavitch dates to the 18th century and Zionism to the late 19th
century, but we have a 2000-year history of Jewish expulsion before
either Chabad Lubavitch or Zionism came into existence. Why? Because
the Jews’ criminal and parasitic behaviors have repeatedly made their
host populations want to get rid of them.

Speaking of the Rothschilds, there’s room for one or a few at the
top, which doesn’t mean that the top bankers achieved their rank on
their own. A Jewish community would take a traveling show to a town to
entertain people while indulging in espionage. Some members of this
community would try to take over the drug trade and the supply of
prostitutes while others were busy distracting the unsuspecting hosts
via entertainment. They would seek rich and powerful non-Jews with
moral weaknesses, and attempt to ingratiate themselves with them by
supplying drugs, gambling money or prostitutes to them, requesting
some favors in return, namely appointing some Jews in the right
positions, and resort to blackmail if a simple return favor didn’t
work. With Jews in the right places, they could work toward acquiring
control of money lending and the issuance of money. The sayanim would
collect details about the opposition, some of which will have to be
eliminated by assassins. To make a long story short, we end up with a
few Jewish families – the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Schiffs –
possessing over half the world’s wealth, but they got there because of
the concerted working of the majority of Jews, and they are making
sure that other Jews remain in the right positions to indefinitely
perpetuate the Jewish crime network.

The Jews will ramp up efforts to suppress speech

The Jews will come up with scare tactics about online sexual predators
targeting our children to press for internet restrictions. Expect them
to attempt suppression of speech by coming up with bills titled along
the lines of ‘Child Protection Act.’ The Jews could come up with a
kosher internet-based group planning extremist acts, say, the bombing
of a public facility, which will obviously not be Jewish, and recruit
people to serve as patsies. After this public facility is blown up by
Jews, the patsies will take the blame and the threat of online
terrorist groups will be used to urge restrictions on the internet.

The Jews will double their efforts to take away our guns while beefing
up their own security

By now the Jews should have infiltrated the NRA (National Rifle
Association) and will seek to make, from within, gun rights
organizations effectively useless. Expect Jewish psychiatrist sayanims
to provide mentally disturbed individuals the right medicines to just
lose it and go on a shooting rampage. Or the Jews could find a
mentally disturbed person with a well-known history of odd behaviors,
orchestrate a massacre around him, kill him and blame the shooting
spree on him. Such massacres will be used as the impetus for gun grab
legislation.

At the same time we’ll be observing Jewish paramilitary groups provide
weapons training to their members to keep ‘New York and America safe
from terrorists’ (#) and Jewish groups in America earnestly preparing
for ‘terrorist attacks’ (#). How long will the irony of Jews
increasing their security while disarming the public be lost upon
people? The Jews simply don’t have the manpower to take away the tens
of millions of guns possessed by Americans.

Targeted killings by Jews

Because of the internet, targeted killings have become a risky option
for the Jews. In the age of the internet, when too many Jew-opposed
people die mysteriously, the dots can be connected quickly. When it
becomes obvious that the Jew-opposition is disappearing and law
enforcement couldn’t be made to do anything about it, some people are
going to take the law into their own hands. So the Jews will use
targeted killings sparingly, going after the more important targets.

The Jews will have some Jewish criminals arrested to protect their
crime network at large

At some point Jews will have to have some of their own criminals
arrested to protect their crime network at large. During 2008-2009 we
saw this with the Bernard Madoff case. Jews repeated ad nauseum that
Madoff ran a nearly 20-year-long ponzi scheme that swindled people out
of $50 – $65 billion. Allegedly, Madoff’s own senior employees and
regulators didn’t catch him over this period, which is rubbish.

The victims included professional financial institutions such as
banks, hedge funds and investment firms, the kind of institutions that
will never invest large sums of money without a thorough audit of the
people they are handing their money to or, in other words, the kind of
institutions that can’t become the victim of a ponzi scheme, period.
So what really happened? With many people aware that Jews are behind
the 2008-2009 global financial crisis, the Jews tried to protect their
criminal, swindling, parasitic financial system by attempting to make
it look like a single person got away with such a massive swindle and
that by extrapolation only a few people are responsible for the global
financial crisis.

Jews also went around beating the drums about all the (phony) Jewish
victims of Madoff to counter the notion that Jews have acted in
concert to cause the global financial crisis. The Jews will actually
be using the Madoff case to claim compensation or bailouts for
Madoff’s fraud, and there will naturally be no extensive documentation
because Madoff just plead guilty, obviating the need for an
investigation.

People won’t be fooled for long by the Jews having some of their own
criminals arrested.

Future options available to the Jews


All efforts by Jews discussed above will obviously be useless in the
long run. The Jewish crime network will have to resort to other
options. Let’s look at these options and speculate on which of them
the Jews will resort to.

What the Jews can’t do: give up

The Jews would obviously not want to give up their wealth and
power but the more important issue is that they can’t give up. Their
criminality is so extensive that if the Jews just give up and decide
to come clean, many people will bring out the rope for criminal Jews,
the vast majority will want Jews expelled and the Jews will most
assuredly be expelled from all Western societies and the Middle East.

Last-ditch options for the Jews: major nuclear terror or bio-
terror false flag attacks; race riots

The Jews could use the cover of a major false flag attack or
massive chaos resulting from race riots to institute martial law and
go around killing the opposition. The Jews have a large dossier of Jew-
opposed people, especially comprising of those vocal in their
opposition to criminal Jews and those that have either donated (using
credit/debit card or personal check) to or are on the mailing lists of
the numerous phony crime-fighting/patriotic/nationalist/anti-Jew
groups that the Jews have created. But this will still leave millions
of anti-Jew individuals well aware that Jews are behind the carnage,
and race riots won’t be of much help to Jews in many European nations
because the non-European races are a small minority there.

The Samson option

The Jews could use the threat of unleashing their nuclear weapons
upon the rest of the world to protect themselves. Many of us know
better than to be scared of this possibility. All of us are going to
die someday, usually of some horrible disease, after much suffering.
Being vaporized by a nuclear explosion is a zero pain and suffering
option: one moment we are alive; the other moment we are dead; no time
for suffering or realizing what happened. Why be scared of this kind
of death? In any case we either live with dignity or die fighting the
vile Jewish parasites.

The Jews could unleash nuclear weapons and kill a few hundred
million people in and around the Middle East before they are put out
of their misery by other nuclear powers. Humanity will survive. Even
if we assume that the Jews succeed in wiping out the human species,
the Jews will wipe themselves out, too. Whatever they do, the Jews
can’t win.

A bizarre but workable option that ensures survival of the Jews
and no carnage

The Jews could use their wealth and power to threaten many
countries with nuclear annihilation unless governments immediately
protect Jews from harm and ensure their safe passage to Israel. In
return the Jews promise to phase out their nuclear weapo

ns after 40 years. Within 40 years the criminal Jews will be dead
of natural causes in Israel, and punishing most Jews for what their
fathers did wouldn’t make sense just as they couldn’t be prosecuted
for having criminal potential. During these 40 years people won’t be
attacking Israel because of its nuclear weapons and the Jews wouldn’t
be attacking others with nuclear weapons because they would face their
own annihilation.

Over 40 years many non-Jews that have directly suffered because of
Jews would have died, and for the survivors the suffering caused by
Jews would be a distant memory. So the Jews in Israel would have
little reason to fear a massacre when they phase out their nuclear
weapons, but they will have to leave Israel. The United Nations or
whatever equivalent global body exists then could make arrangements
for establishing a homeland for Jews.

The principle of a Jewish homeland nobody would disagree with
since nobody would want Jews in their midst, but there will be some
conflict because nobody would want Jews in their backyard either, but
a solution should not be difficult to come by.

We doubt that the Jews will consider this option.

The Jews will most likely go for the major false flags option as a
last-ditch effort to maintain their international crime network, and,
one could add, race riots in the U.S.

How will the Jewish crime network be destroyed?

The Jewish crime network simply can’t thrive in the long run. How will
it go down? We consider some possibilities.

The cornered animal

The writing’s on the wall; it’s very clear, and it reads:

A cornered animal is a dangerous thing.

As the Jews tighten their vise grip to crush the anti-Jew resistance,
or as the Jews are forced to do so to protect their global crime
network, many people are running out of options and, of course,
patience. At some point some people will be going off the deep end and
decide to put their guns to the use they are meant for. Some of these
people will be very dangerous to the Jews. The 2008-2009 global
financial crisis has prompted some people to commit suicide. At some
point some suicidal individuals will decide to take out the criminal
banking Jews, other important Jews or just about any Jews they could
get their hands on, before departing Earth and perhaps finally find
some meaning and purpose in their miserable lives.

These individuals would have nothing whatsoever to lose, and since
they’d be lone wolves, the Jews would have no central organization
they could take out to stem the problem. Normally, people who plan on
committing murder plan on a safe exit strategy, and fear of getting
caught often prevents them from murdering. But suicidal individuals
don’t give a damn about an exit strategy.

Initially Jews will do everything in their power to suppress news of
Jews shot by strangers from getting out since they’d know that many
people have been fantasizing about doing the same but waiting for
someone to set an example and provide inspiration. But how long could
the Jews suppress the news? If they take out the public internet when
this happens with sufficient frequency, tens of millions of people
will immediately know – the Jews: either up to a major false flag
operation or desperately trying to suppress some information … either
way, many will draw their guns from their holsters and do what must be
done as far as they are concerned.

Obviously, a major Jewish false flag operation will cause a large
number of people to go over the edge and lose it. The berserkers would
be sitting ducks for mercenaries and armed personnel employed by the
Jews, but they’ll get some Jews, whereas many others will keep their
wits and find newfound appreciation for bullets, a liking to be
exercised with great caution but exercised for sure.

It’s very likely that the Jewish crime network will go down in a
violent manner, taking down many Jews and non-Jews with it. We, of
course, reject violent solutions, but are powerless to prevent
violence.

Criminal rats ratting each other out

With Jews starting to have some of their own criminals arrested to
protect their crime network at large, there’s some friction among Jews
regarding who should be sacrificed. As if the general unraveling of
the Jewish crime network isn’t enough, when criminal Jews start
trusting each other less because each Jew is trying to sacrifice any
Jew but himself, at some point some criminal Jews will be tempted to
rat out other criminal Jews in exchange for police protection.

If this happens, lots of criminal Jews will end up behind bars, their
crime network destroyed. Other Jews will still be expelled, but the
process wouldn’t be anywhere as violent as the previous option where
people take the matter into their own hands after Jewish excesses have
driven people to despair.

The military swings into action

When patriots in the U.S. military have had enough of criminal Jews
the high-ranked ones may decide to execute a coup. They would start by
arresting Jews in high ranking positions in the military and putting
them in solitary confinement or executing them. They would then
simultaneously freeze the stock market, arrest the Federal Reserve
employees, take over the administration of all TV stations and major
newspapers, and mass arrest Jews in the New York area as well as other
places and put them in FEMA camps to prevent Israel from carrying out
the Samson option. Then it would be a matter of negotiating with
Israel: trade American Jews for your weapons of mass destruction and
safe exit to a homeland that the U.N. will establish for Jews.

The bizarre option, again; The Samson option

Whereas the bizarre option that we mentioned appears to be the only
carnage-free option that also allows the criminal Jews to escape
prosecution for the rest of their lives, we doubt that Jews would
consider it. We aren’t sure what is the likelihood of the Jewish crime
network ending with the Samson option. What we can be sure of is that
the Jewish crime network is going down.

http://www.judenfrei.org/what-will-the-jews-do

Like Rats, yids are looking for the nearest Rat-Hole to Escape.

Warhol

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Jews are fast realizing that their days of duping the people via their
media machine is not so effective anymore and they are now resorting
to hiding with the rats ! The World has caught up with their Lies,
Treachery and Deception.

"The Jews will ramp up efforts to suppress speech"

This one seems pretty accurate, with Obama trying to suppress the
truth getting out about the Holohoax, Frederick Toben found guilty
after being ordered to suppress his right to free speech, David Duke
arrested for exposing the Holohoax, Bishop Williamson hounded for
exposing the Holohoax. yep the Zionazis are freaking out at the truth
coming out about the Holohoax, and the latest attempt by the Zios to
stop people discussing this issue.........


April 21, 2009, 10:10 CET

news
Hungarian Guard members prosecuted for Holocaust denial

By MTI

Budapest police have initiated legal procedures against two members of
the paramilitary Hungarian Guard, following a demonstration where they
made speeches denying the Holocaust, the police told MTI on Monday.
The two, including Istvan Dosa, a leader of the radical nationalist
organisation, spoke before 200 supporters in front of the German
Embassy in Budapest on Saturday, and said that "nothing of the
Holocaust was true".
On Sunday, thousands attended a torch-lit march in Budapest,
commemorating Hungarian victims of Nazi rule.

BradGuth

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It sounds as though they went more than a little too far. Perhaps
another year or two from now they might have gotten away with such
speeches, however today is still more than a little taboo in far too
many nations that are sufficiently Zionist policy dominated. After
all, many tens of thousands of Jews and a far greater number of others
did in fact die prematurely while being held in those work camps
against their will.

In war the innocent must die, such as our war in Iraq has taken more
than a million lives of the mostly innocent Muslims. Stalin was good
at exterminating and/or starving tens of millions to death (mostly
civilians plus a few millions of his own troops).

~ BG

Warhol

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http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/Photos2001/DachauE019.jpg


Military Police Service Vienna, Oct. 1, 1948
10th. copy
Circular No 31/48
1. The Allied Investigation Commission have established so far
that no persons were killed by the use of poison gas in the
following concentration camps: Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald,
Dachau, Flossenbuerg, Gross-Rosen, Mauthausen and its
extension camps, Natzweler, Neuengamme, Niederhagen
(Wewelsburg), Ravensbrueck, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof,
Theriesienstadt.
In all these cases it could be proved that the confessions
were the result of torture and the testimonies were false.
This fact has to be taken into account in war crime
investigations and interrogations.
Former concentration camp prisoners testifying that persons,
especially Jews, were killed with poison gas in these
concentration camps, are to be informed of this finding by the
Allied Investigation Commissions. Should they insist in their
testimony, a charge of false testimony is to be filed against
them.
2. Paragraph 1 of circular 15/48 can be cancelled.
The commander of the
Military Police Service:
Mueller, Major

The truth is holohoax never happened. That's the truth, it's all a big
lying pile of horseshit to cover up the real holocaust where humans
were systematically butchered by the very same pieces of shit who now
play the victims, who now want to butcher 90% of the people in america
and elsewhere in their fema death camps, and do the same thing all
over the world.

BradGuth

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I believe Zionist Nazis were in charge of most everything Hitler and
his well engineered army of goons wasn't in charge of. Therefore it
was extensively their own kind either directing or doing most of the
killings within those work camps, while other Zionists were busy with
whatever physics, science and world banking of all that loot they
could take from others.

FEMA death camps are not quite as real as you might think. However,
FEMA incompetence has been nearly as good as crimes against humanity
ever gets.

~ BG

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