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Susan Spence

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Nov 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/23/96
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Tresa Rose Adkins (tad...@tc3net.com) wrote:
: pursuant to a sonogram for digestive problems, i was told by the
: gastroenterologist that they found that i have found pericardial effusion.
: however, since that is out of his field of expertise, he could only tell me
: that that is "fluid around the heart" and now i have to go back to the
: beginning with my primary physician ... who is on medical leave herself. ad
: nauseum!

: so, anyone know the lengthier definition of pericardial effusion???????

Can I suggest that you spend a few minutes performing web searches,
and failing the ability to do this, visit your local public library?
If you have a university nearby, you may also be able to use their
facilities.

I spent 5-10 minutes with 2 search engines looking up pericardial effusion
and found many sites which described the condition. None of them can
tell you exactly why you have developed this condition, however. Only
your doctors may be able to do that. If your primary physician is on
medical leave then surely she has designated someone to cover her duties
while she is away?

http://www.mediciennet.com/mainmenu/encyclop/article/Art_P/pericard.htm
has a some information about pericarditis/pericardial effusion written
in a comprehensible fashion.

Meanwhile, what are you doing about the stress in your life? It sounds
to me that if you can get that under control, regardless of whether or
not it can be blamed for any or all of your symptoms, you will be much
better off.


pericarditis.

rgshea

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Nov 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/24/96
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Tresa Rose Adkins wrote:
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> Web searches can get you a lot of information, sometimes even what you
> asked for! Other times they bring back nothing but rubbish. It would
> be nice to ask a person rather than a machine. It would be even nicer
> to ask a lot of people.
>
> Usenet is home to several tens of millions of people, some of whom are
> almost bound to know the answers to your questions.
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Tresa, this newsgroup is for discussing how to use computers in
medicine. I'm sorry that you appear to be getting the run around in your
healthcare. But nobody up here can really help you without doing an
examination.
Your primary physician must have made arrangements with someone to cover
you wwhile she was gone. Contact your provider's office and make an
appointment.
Good Luck, Bob Shea, RN, USAF

Eugene McNally

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Nov 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/25/96
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I totally agree. I hope that all physicians will resist answering
postings looking for advice of this sort.

Cindy Brunner

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Nov 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/26/96
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In article <3298C4...@erols.com> rgshea <rgs...@erols.com> writes:
>From: rgshea <rgs...@erols.com>
>Subject: Re: * PERICARDIAL EFFUSION *
>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:55:10 -0400

>Tresa, this newsgroup is for discussing how to use computers in
>medicine. I'm sorry that you appear to be getting the run around in your
>healthcare. But nobody up here can really help you without doing an
>examination.
>Good Luck, Bob Shea, RN, USAF
Dear Mr. Shea,
You are absolutely right, of course, that Tresa should consult a physician
about her pericardial effusion. But, who decided that the purpose of this
newsgroup was for "discussing how to use computers in medicine"? I've been
following the group for many months now, and it seems the most frequent
postings deal with how to get into medical school or what to do once you get
in. Scarcely any postings address the topic you've listed as the main
purpose. Can't we be a bit more open-minded about this? Who makes the rules?

Cindy Brunner


Kalpana Shankar

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Nov 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/27/96
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Ms Brunner -

The article posted by Tresa was cross-posted to 5 different groups,
if you look at the header, including misc.education.medical (where
you seem to be reading it) and sci.med.informatics (which Bob Shea was
writing about). Sci.med.informatics IS intended for the discussion
of computers in medicine, but many people seem to be confuse
"informatics" with "information".

Hope this clears up the confusion.

In future followups, perhaps sci.med.informatics should be removed
from the followup list.

Sincerely,

Kalpana Shankar

Cindy Brunner

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Nov 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/27/96
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In article <brunncj.4...@vetmed.auburn.edu> bru...@vetmed.auburn.edu (Cindy Brunner ) writes:
>Subject: Re: * PERICARDIAL EFFUSION *
>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:32:00 LOCAL
>Dear Mr. Shea,
>[snipped comment about Tresa's medical condition]...Who decided that the
>purpose of this newsgroup was for "discussing how to use computers in
>medicine"? [etc.]

To Mr. Shea and all the other readers of the litany of newsgroups to which
my note was (stupidly) cross-posted: sorry. Please disregard my note. I
committed newsgroup sin #2 (#1 being intentional spamming?) out of inattention
to the list on the top line of my screen. Of course, "informatics" deals with
use of computers. But, since I was following a DIFFERENT group in that
list and didn't pay attention to the extensive cross-posting of Tresa's note,
I couldn't figure out why Mr. Shea said what he did. And, since I didn't
realize my followup would cross-post AUTOMATICALLY until it was pointed out to
me by gentle readers, I committed the same error.
OK, now that that's said... y'all have a peaceful holiday.
C. Brunner

Dr David Lauckner

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Nov 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/28/96
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bru...@vetmed.auburn.edu (Cindy Brunner) writes:

: In article <3298C4...@erols.com> rgshea <rgs...@erols.com> writes:
: >From: rgshea <rgs...@erols.com>
: >Subject: Re: * PERICARDIAL EFFUSION *
: >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 17:55:10 -0400
: >Tresa, this newsgroup is for discussing how to use computers in
: >medicine. I'm sorry that you appear to be getting the run around in your

: >healthcare. But nobody up here can really help you without doing an
: >examination.
: >Good Luck, Bob Shea, RN, USAF
: Dear Mr. Shea,
: You are absolutely right, of course, that Tresa should consult a physician
: about her pericardial effusion. But, who decided that the purpose of this
: newsgroup was for "discussing how to use computers in medicine"? I've been
: following the group for many months now, and it seems the most frequent
: postings deal with how to get into medical school or what to do once you get
: in. Scarcely any postings address the topic you've listed as the main
: purpose. Can't we be a bit more open-minded about this? Who makes the rules?
:
: Cindy Brunner

I have been around this newsgroup from conception.
Perhaps the following will clarify the question of purpose of the
newsgroup sci.med.radiology:

********************************************************

CHARTER OF SCI.MED.RADIOLOGY (from the original cfv)

There seems to be a need for a place to discuss the clinical,
technological, operational, and political aspects of radiology.

Discussions of the physics of radiology and radiologic equipment have
been and should continue to be held in sci.med.physics. Discussions
of image processing and computer graphics have been and should
continue to be held in alt.image.medical, sci.image.processing, and
comp.graphics.*, and the AI groups as appropriate. Discussions
concerning image and data communication between radiologic devices
(and others) will hopefully be held more and more in
comp.protocols.dicom.

It is NOT within the charter of this group that it become a place for
telediagnosis, e.g., " My CAT scan shows a white blob in the front,
what is it?". Discussions about how to perform telediagnosis, etc
would be included in the charter.

********************************************************

Let us try and keep to the charter, without offending those who
seek our assistance. Just point them in the right direction,
gently.

There are also place where you can discuss the uses of computers
in medicine ... not here !

Best wishes

David
--
Dr David Lauckner Phone: 0670-521212
Wansbeck General Hospital Fax: 0670-529778
ASHINGTON, Northumberland e-mail: da...@roentgen.demon.co.uk
United Kingdom.


eng...@anet-dfw.com

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Nov 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/29/96
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On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:49:04 -0800, Tresa Rose Adkins
<tad...@tc3net.com> wrote:

>snip
You can also visit sci.med.cardiology for more specific
discussions about heart-related matters.

Good luck

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