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Jeff Campbell

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Hello!
I run an organization that is developing music programs for inner city
children in DC.
I would like to develop a creativity workshop that is based on Julia
Cameron's book
"The Artist Way." I'm looking for someone to help in adapting her book
into a
workshop for children. I contacted Miss Cameron several years ago about
this idea
and she encouraged it. Unfortunately, I put it on the backburner because
of other projects.
I'm now ready to begin this project and I would greatly appreciate any
help. Thanks!

Creatively yours,
Jeff
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Jeff Campbell, Executive Director
Hungry for Music
2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Suite 384
Washington, DC 20006

email: hungryf...@worldnet.att.net
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can you hear what it says to you?"
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Channah

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Hi,
Sounds like a really cool idea. I'm in the process of reading and
doing "The Artists Way" thing now myself and really like your wanting
to do it with kids. If I can think of any ways that it can be adapted
for children as I go along I'll pass those thoughts on to you.

I'm an artist AND raised two boys all by myself in Pittsburgh (yikes!!!
Steeler country). Hopefully that will give me some background on what
kids can handle.

One thing that comes to mind is how do you get children to do morning
pages when it's a chore to just get them up in time to go to school?
Maybe you could get them into the habit of keeping a diary. They could
write in the morning, after school, before bed, whenever is a good time
for them. What a great way for a kid to unload! Remember being a kid?
The pressures out there are so great for those young people and even
more so in the city these days.

The biggest problem I could possibly see is the ability to keep it
private. Some kids have nosey family members who would want to sneak
peeks at what they are writing making it impossible to write everything
they are feeling or experiencing. Is there a safe place and time for
them to write what they want and a safe place to keep their diaries?
Some parents could give their kids major grief for writing about them
or about what happened in the school yard.

If I can think of anything else I'll pass it on to you.

Later...
Channah


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SereneBabe

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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"The Artist's Way"


the morning pages kicked my ass.

Horace Confab

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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Channah wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Sounds like a really cool idea. I'm in the process of reading and
> doing "The Artists Way" thing now myself and really like your wanting
> to do it with kids. If I can think of any ways that it can be adapted
> for children as I go along I'll pass those thoughts on to you.
>
> I'm an artist AND raised two boys all by myself in Pittsburgh (yikes!!!
> Steeler country). Hopefully that will give me some background on what
> kids can handle.
>
> One thing that comes to mind is how do you get children to do morning
> pages when it's a chore to just get them up in time to go to school?
> Maybe you could get them into the habit of keeping a diary. They could
> write in the morning, after school, before bed, whenever is a good time
> for them. What a great way for a kid to unload! Remember being a kid?
> The pressures out there are so great for those young people and even
> more so in the city these days.
>
> The biggest problem I could possibly see is the ability to keep it
> private. Some kids have nosey family members who would want to sneak
> peeks at what they are writing making it impossible to write everything
> they are feeling or experiencing. Is there a safe place and time for
> them to write what they want and a safe place to keep their diaries?
> Some parents could give their kids major grief for writing about them
> or about what happened in the school yard.

Here's what I thought of.

Straightforward language is much harder to hide than other the kinds of
language found in other mediums. Veiled things like paintings, musical
instruments, and dance are more covert and can be just as good.

Alternatively, instead of using a notebook, they could use a
taperecorder. It is much easier to keep tapes private than a notebook.
They're easy to hide and also it's easy to destroy them. The child who
made them would be able to locate what he or she wanted to, but someone
else would hardly have the patience -- tapes have a sort of built-in
protection.

Alternatively, if the notebook option appeals most, well, they could
write in a code, like 'push every letter forward two' or somesuch. Or..
well... (if anything else occurs, I'll let you know)

Susanna Lee

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:59:11 +1200, Horace Confab
<punsl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Channah wrote:
>> I'm in the process of reading and
>> doing "The Artists Way" thing
<<>>

>> The biggest problem I could possibly see is the ability to keep it
>> private.
>

>Here's what I thought of.
>
>Straightforward language is much harder to hide than other the kinds of
>language found in other mediums. Veiled things like paintings, musical
>instruments, and dance are more covert and can be just as good.

One suggestion: don't use poetry as your medium. Whenever I
have done that in the past, and my writing has been
"discovered", it seems that, no matter who finds it, the
reader never fails to interpret the poetic words as being
about himself, and becomes insulted.

I would write volumes of poetry about myself, and the next
immature person who would come along and read my journal
would, while being very flattered that I had taken so much
time to analyze his/her personality, become highly insulted
that I thought that he/she was so immature and shallow.

-Susanna


Susanna Lee

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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On 20 Nov 1998 00:55:05 GMT, seren...@aol.comnospammy
(SereneBabe) wrote:

>"The Artist's Way"
>
>the morning pages kicked my ass

and found it soft and reassuring.

"The Artist's Way" has been highly overrated. It is just
another mirror. Any mirror will do.

-annasuS


SereneBabe

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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mommy...@garden.net (Susanna Lee) wrote:

>"The Artist's Way" has been highly overrated. It is just
>another mirror. Any mirror will do.

I agree...the thing it did was make me look.

H

Horace Confab

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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Horace Confab wrote:
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> Channah wrote:
> >
> > Hi,

--snip--

> Alternatively, if the notebook option appeals most, well, they could
> write in a code, like 'push every letter forward two' or somesuch. Or..
> well... (if anything else occurs, I'll let you know)

-Take out all the vowels of the words, reverse the consonants, then
reinsert the vowels. For example:

'The rain in Spain'

th rn n spn
ht nr n nps

The code: het nair ni napis

Or: 'The elephant and the grasshoper digested each other'

th lphnt nd th grsshpr dgstd ch thr
ht tnhpl dn ht rphssrg dtsgd hc rht

The code is - Het tenehapl dan het rapohessrg ditseged heca rohetr

-After you have the final code you could push each letter a certain
number (eg, so that a is b; or z is a)
So for example with that last one, pushing each letter back one, it
becomes:

"Gds sdmdgzok czm gds qzongdrrqf chsrdfdc gdbz qngdsq"

-It'd be another language, where you understand 'the' to be spelt gds,
etc.

-There is still the problem of numbers of letters. If your 'the' is
always three letters, it's going to be that much easier to work out what
your meaning is. Therefore another thing is required.

-Convert "Gds sdmdgzok czm gds" into gdssdmdgzok3 czmgds3. That helps.
The number indicates where the cut should be. Or you could have it:
Gdssdmdgzokczmgds3833. Convert the numbers into letters perhaps. So that
you have Gdssdmdgzokczmgds-chcc. (You need to have some sort of
separator if you're not using numbers -- actually, you don't if you have
a consistent usage. You could have it so you join 3 words together, then
2, then 3, then 2)

1 Gds sdmdgzok czm dgs
2 Het tenehapl dan eht
3 th lphnt nd th
4 The elephant and the

Of course it would take someone really motivated and clever to be able
to convert words in their heads into the code on paper. I'm going to try
to teach myself a system like that. It would be hard work. But I haven't
really done anything hard like that in a while.

I wonder, is 'Gdssdmdgzokczmgdschcc' , and a lot of others of its like
on a page, perhaps 2 words then 3 words then 2 words, impossible to
crack, unless you know my system? lol.. I doubt it. But it would be
really nice if it was. It wouldn't be a total synch I suppose, but it's
no Enigma.

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