Doorbell, etc. - Saving $2.50 per month!
Bill
only when the button was pressed. I also went through my house and placed
everything I could find which was "always on" on a switch or power strip.
I replaced power strips which had lights on them with power strips which
have no light. I wired switches to all GFCI outlets so I can turn them off
when not in use. I have a rooftop TV antenna amplifier which was "always on"
and I wired a switch to that.
I placed my entertainment center things on 4 individual power strips (no
lights) so I could turn on only what I was using. (Like just TV and DVD, or
playstation, or satellite TV - don't need to have on components which are
not being used.)
I placed several power strips on my computer stuff. So just computer on -
printer on separate power strip and off when not in use. Everything totally
off when not in use.
Placed outlet switches on HEPA air cleaners (have always on timers for
filter replacement).
Placed power strips (no power on light) on bedroom, garage small stereos.
Etc.
Anyway my electric bill is now $2.50 per month less and will be so for the
rest of my life. That's $30 a year or being as my electric bill is now under
$30 a month - one month of free electricity!
Tony Hwang
My electricity costs 7 cents per KWh locked for 5 years. What if you
keep powering up/down multiple devices and a surge cause a damage. The
repair cost may far exceed the 2.00 per month. If I wanted to save
electric energy my way would be using more efficient devices or minimize
the usage by careful planning ahead.
hal...@aol.com
congrats how much did you spend for all the power strips etc?
some devices may not like being powered off repeatedly like you are
doing
congress should legislate a power off control for people who desire to
save max energy, a added requirement for energy star
the satellite tv uses off hours to doiwnload guide updates, powered
off completely may get you a aging guide.
We use DVRs which arent compatible with no power. Ours record shows
all day and all nite long
clams_casino
>>
>>
> Hi,
> My electricity costs 7 cents per KWh locked for 5 years. What if you
> keep powering up/down multiple devices and a surge cause a damage. The
> repair cost may far exceed the 2.00 per month. If I wanted to save
> electric energy my way would be using more efficient devices or
> minimize the usage by careful planning ahead.
I'm envious. My last electric bill was 18.5 cents / KWhr.
Charlie Darwin
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You could also flush only every other time, grow your own veggies, only wash
the sheets and towels once a month and shut off your car engine at red
lights or when going down hill...
HeyBub
Yeah, but it costs you an hour a day to reset all the blinking "12:00"
things.
aemeijers
time or cost effective, but if it gives him the illusion of having some
control over his universe, so what?
--
aem sends...
1D1OT
"Charlie Darwin" <c...@evo.net> wrote in message
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> You could also flush only every other time, grow your own veggies, only
> wash the sheets and towels once a month and shut off your car engine at
> red lights or when going down hill...
Why wash towels - aren't we clean when we use them?
Pete C.
I dropped cable and save $50 per month, every month. I'm saving 20X what
your savings, and I don't have to go to any effort daily for that
savings.
Dennis
Mine was $0.059 / kWh (plus a $7 fixed "customer charge"). PUD in the
PNW.
Dennis (evil)
--
My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin
Jon Danniken
> Oh, please don't encourage the guy. Of course what he is doing is not time
> or cost effective, but if it gives him the illusion of having some control
> over his universe, so what?
It's no problem with the fellow in question, but often folks like that tend
to want to spread their "blessings" onto other people who have not become so
"enlightened", and often by force. That's when it no longer becomes cute
and quirky.
Jon
Rod Speed
Nope, not when you get the oxygen machine.
> That's $30 a year
Pity about the cost of all those plug boards.
> or being as my electric bill is now under $30 a month - one month of free electricity!
You'll have to pardon us if we dont actually cream our jeans or sumfin.
1D1OT
What do you do about the cost of ironing your socks?
DGDevin
> Anyway my electric bill is now $2.50 per month less and will be so
> for the rest of my life. That's $30 a year or being as my electric
> bill is now under $30 a month - one month of free electricity!
And how much did you say you spent on power strips, switches, wiring etc.?
albu...@mailinator.com
wrote:
Plus, his reported savings are likely do to general cutbacks then
using power strips without the tiny neon light. It's like when people
go on a diet or start concentrating on auto mileage, they start making
more and more changes. When his house burns down from using a cheap
power strip or running wires on the floor, he won't be posting that
event here.
John Grabowski
*What is the payback time for the expenses that were outlayed to do all this
switching and changes? If you spent $100.00 the payback would be in 40
months based on the $2.50 per month savings.
K
Connecticut?
clams_casino
RI
Kevin Hawerchuk
"green."
Basically it was a strip with 12 outlets. 3 are for "always on"
devices, one outlet was for the control, and 8 were peripherals that
only had power when the control outlet device was powered up.
The control device is my tv set and the peripherals are devices like
dvd players, laserdisc players, a desk lamp, ect.
It's touted to "pay for itself" eventually. The strip cost $40.
I really bought it mainly for the 12 outlets and surge protection, but
the power savings feature was a minor factor.
I wonder if this is something that might gain popularity? It's the
first of its type that I ever bought...
Gary H
wrote:
Sheets and towels can be washed only when they're stinky.
Gary H
wrote:
[snip]
>
>Yeah, but it costs you an hour a day to reset all the blinking "12:00"
>things.
>
Use electrical tape to solve that problem.
Red Green
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You gotta be a troll or fucking stupid beyond.
John Gilmer
"Tony Hwang" <drag...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
> Hi,
> My electricity costs 7 cents per KWh locked for 5 years. What if you keep
> powering up/down multiple devices and a surge cause a damage. The repair
> cost may far exceed the 2.00 per month. If I wanted to save electric
> energy my way would be using more efficient devices or minimize the usage
> by careful planning ahead.
What? Are you talking about the "surge" when you first power up something?
Could be.
$30/year for the convenience of having everything ready to go rather than
requiring the hunting down of power strips here and there isn't much.
Seems to me that the "standby" power performance is getting better. I say
than only because stuff in "standby" seems to be running cooler.
Don Klipstein
First time I got a cell phone, maybe 8-9 years ago, the wallwart for
charging it was an iron core one. Since then I had cellphones with
switchmode charging wallwarts that ran cooler and probably consumed about
1 watt, possibly 1.5 watts less electricity apiece.
It appears to me that one major reason behind switchmode cell phone
chargers was that they can be made narrow enough to not block adjacent
outlets on a power strip.
- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
Don Klipstein
>On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:24:12 -0500, clams_casino
><PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>>Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> My electricity costs 7 cents per KWh locked for 5 years.
>>
>
>Mine was $0.059 / kWh (plus a $7 fixed "customer charge"). PUD in the
>PNW.
My latest electric bill indicates 14.6 cents per KWH plus a fixed
monthly charge of $5.18.
My electric co. is PECO, in SE PA.
- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
Don Klipstein
How many mutual funds have done better than that from so much as the
1982 low to now?
- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
Red Green
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The first time I got a cell phone was also maybe 8-9 years ago. When the
contract ran out that was the end of that. Never had one since.
tra...@optonline.net
I'm surprised no one asked how he determined the $2.50 per month.
Unless he used a Kilowatt meter or similar on each device he was
turning off, it would be impossible to come up with an accurate
number just by looking at a couple months bills. Bills vary widely by
weather, different usage, etc.
Bill
last 7 years.
Every time I discuss various projects on the internet, someone has told me
it is a bad return on my money...
Looking at the stock market, I am quite pleased that this is where I have
invested my money (on a lower cost of living).
I have a friend who went the other route and received a "high return on his
investment" as advised by these people. At last count he has lost 100K on
his retirement account.
So where should I invest my money instead of spending it on reducing my
energy costs?
albu...@mailinator.com
> In <G5Sdnbs7duN5awXUnZ2dnUVZ_hmdn...@posted.localnet>, John Gilmer wrote:
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> >"Tony Hwang" <drago...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
I have many of those larger transformers for things too. I made a
bunch of short cords from old discarded devices to use as extensions
to the outlet. In some cases, I soldered the wires directly to the
plugs of the transformer and insulated them well for safety. I don't
care about ever plugging those devices directly anyway so the
modification is a permanent fix.
Neill Massello
> I'm surprised no one asked how he determined the $2.50 per month.
> Unless he used a Kilowatt meter or similar on each device he was
> turning off, it would be impossible to come up with an accurate
> number just by looking at a couple months bills. Bills vary widely by
> weather, different usage, etc.
The average rate for residential power in the United States is just
under 11.9 cents per kilowatt hour.
<http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table5_6_a.html>
At that rate, $2.50 works out to about 29 watts per hour for an average
(730 hour) month. That's a plausible total for all the devices that run
in standby mode in the typical modern house. (As has been noted
elsewhere, some of those devices -- wireless telephones and devices that
use clocks, for example -- aren't very useful if they're powered down
completely.)
Replacing lighted power strips is probably a false economy, especially
if those strips (and their lights) are kept powered off most of the
time. The small neon lights in power strips consume less than half a
watt, which would mean more than seven years of continuous use just to
get back the typical $4 cost of a new strip.
hal...@aol.com
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I bought the cheap home depot extension cords, made for lighting but
fine for transformers, cut off all but a foot of cord, left the
receptable and installed a new plug.
they are two prong but accomodate 3 things. decluttered the wiring
mess a lot
aemeijers
> On Feb 17, 12:37�ｿｽpm, albun...@mailinator.com wrote:
>> On Feb 16, 8:51 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
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>>> In <G5Sdnbs7duN5awXUnZ2dnUVZ_hmdn...@posted.localnet>, John Gilmer wrote:
>>>> "Tony Hwang" <drago...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:gJXll.7267$EO2....@newsfe04.iad...
>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> My electricity costs 7 cents per KWh locked for 5 years. What if you keep
>>>>> powering up/down multiple devices and a surge cause a damage. The repair
>>>>> cost may far exceed the 2.00 per month. If I wanted to save electric
>>>>> energy my way would be using more efficient devices or minimize the usage
>>>>> by careful planning ahead.
>>>> Could be.
>>>> $30/year for the convenience of having everything ready to go rather than
>>>> requiring the hunting down of power strips here and there isn't much.
>>>> than only because stuff in "standby" seems to be running cooler.
>>> charging it was an iron core one. �ｿｽSince then I had cellphones with
>>> switchmode charging wallwarts that ran cooler and probably consumed about
>>> 1 watt, possibly 1.5 watts less electricity apiece.
>>> chargers was that they can be made narrow enough to not block adjacent
>>> outlets on a power strip.
>> I have many of those larger transformers for things too. I made a
>> to the outlet. In some cases, I soldered the wires directly to the
>> care about ever plugging those devices directly anyway so the
>> modification is a permanent fix.- Hide quoted text -
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>
> I bought the cheap home depot extension cords, made for lighting but
> fine for transformers, cut off all but a foot of cord, left the
> receptable and installed a new plug.
>
> they are two prong but accomodate 3 things. decluttered the wiring
> mess a lot
enough apart that you can put a wall wart at each position. Looks like a
bunch of little pigs at a trough, tails hanging out.
--
aem sends...