>
> >
> > This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet. This
>should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent.
> >
> > From a California school teacher - - -
> >
> > "As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal
>immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
> > I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a
>large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
>school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income
>levels.
> >
> > Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell
>Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are protesting, are
>also Title 1 schools.
> > Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program.
>When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll --
>but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would
>make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays
>and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.
> >
> > I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least
>moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school
>also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls
>(some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience
>of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids.
> > I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
>funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for
>anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new
>computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month
>later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who
>obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America.
> >
> > I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
>teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students, here
>in the country less then 3 months, who raised so much hell with the
>female teachers, calling them "Putas"(whores) and throwing things, that
>the teachers were in tears.
> >
> > Free medical, free education, free food, free day care etc., etc,
>etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country
>but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
> >
> > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
>contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
>housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
>the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
> >
> > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
>more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
>new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
> >
> > Americans, We need to wake up.
> >
> > It does, however, have everything to do with culture: It involves an
>American third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts
>children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that
>refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak
>and worried about "political correctness" that we don't have the will
>to do anything about it.
> > If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
>everyone you know.
> >
> > CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
>Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want
>expensive produce.
> >
> > Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the
>bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce,
>and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
> >
> > Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He
>takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents,
>he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income
>Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.
> >
> > He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
> > He qualifies for food stamps.
> > He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
> > His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
> > He requires bilingual teachers and books.
> > He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
> > If they are, or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI.
> > If qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare.
> >
> > All of this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
> > He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners
>insurance.
> > Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
> > He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in
>benefits.
> >
> > Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6..00/hour left after
>paying their bills AND his.
> > Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT!
> > THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE CONGRESSIONAL
>MEMBERS OF EITHER PARTY.
>
> > AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM.
> >
> > Please pass this on to as many as possible. Immigration legislation
>is to be considered in 2010. This is important to working Americans,
>our economy and our American culture and heritage..
> >
> > Grace Gan
> > Ukiah Unified School District
> > 925 N. State St.
> > Ukiah, CA 95482
These IQ 85 invaders are an obsolete people who have been encouraged
to cross the border. They are the dregs of central America, their
homelands are glad to rid of them. Do you want them here?
cole
That describes 95% of the white Europeans that came here...poor white
trash, potato famers, religious fanatics that drove their neighbors
crazy, kids coming out of their ass, a dozen at a time.
A huge difference is that the Europeans who came here came here
legally and wanted to become Americanized.
So you would love to believe. What is a WOP..why is a WOP...WITH OUT
PAPERS...tons of Italians and Sicilians who came over cause their
brother came here or their uncle , some had papers some didn't and it
drove the Immigration people nuts..since half the house was legal and
the other house not.
BS. It comes from the word "guap" and "without" is one word.
> tons of Italians and Sicilians who came over cause their
> brother came here or their uncle , some had papers some didn't and it
> drove the Immigration people nuts..since half the house was legal and
> the other house not.
Illegal immigration wasn't a problem until the 2nd half of the 20th
century when started giving away freebees.
It's a family joke that our French ancestors learned English when they got
here, and so did the Irish. Seriously, though, my grandmother said that
while her Irish parents only spoke "English", they were never intelligible
to any of the Irish born here (circa 1896)! If America is the great "melting
pot, why do the current batch of immigrants feel that they shouldn't have
to? Melt, already, like all the other cultures did.
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wop
> BS. It comes from the word "guap" and "without" is one word.
>
>> tons of Italians and Sicilians who came over cause their
>> brother came here or their uncle , some had papers some didn't and it
>> drove the Immigration people nuts..since half the house was legal and
>> the other house not.
> Illegal immigration wasn't a problem until the 2nd half of the 20th century
Yes, when america changed who was allowed in legally.
> when started giving away freebees.
Nope. There were plenty of mexican legals before that, most obviously with harvest labor.
How is that a problem when they'd pick the lettuce, get their pay and
go home?
You mean the same white europeans that came here,worked hard and built
the best country on the planet?
When who was allowed in was much more relaxed.
> and wanted to become Americanized.
Plenty of them didnt.
Plenty of them never did go home, and did that quite legally too.
>> That describes 95% of the white Europeans that came here...poor white
>> trash, potato famers, religious fanatics that drove their neighbors
>> crazy, kids coming out of their ass, a dozen at a time.
> You mean the same white europeans that came here,worked hard
Plenty of them never did work hard, and plenty of them did lots of crime too.
> and built the best country on the planet?
Pure fantasy.
What country is better?
Depends on what measure you use.
Plenty are a lot safer, with a much lower murder rate etc.
All modern first world countrys have a better way of handling health care costs.
Quite a few dont have a legal system that has been off the rails for centurys now.
Etc etc etc.
they came here legally, the population was much lower, there was a need for
workers,
they didn't cost the government and taxpayers billions in services, they
were screened when the
entered the country
>On May 18, 8:22嚙窮m, tripletask@gmail..com wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:16:45 -0700, *USA* <sanj...@here.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet. 嚙確his
>> >etc. 嚙瘢s it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country
>> >but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
>>
>> > > To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants
>> >contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and
>> >housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in
>> >the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
>>
>> > > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs,
>> >more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding,
>> >new diseases. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
>>
>> > > Americans, We need to wake up.
>>
>> > > It does, however, have everything to do with culture: It involves an
>> >American third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts
>> >children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that
>> >refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak
>> >and worried about "political correctness" 嚙緣hat we don't have the will
>> >to do anything about it.
>> > > If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
>> >everyone you know.
>>
>> > > CHEAP LABOR? 嚙瘢sn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
>> >Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want
>> >expensive produce.
>>
>> > > Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. 嚙畿ut the
>> > > Please pass this on to as many as possible. 嚙瘢mmigration legislation
>> >is to be considered in 2010. 嚙確his is important to working Americans,
>> >our economy and our American culture and heritage..
>>
>> > > Grace Gan
>> > > Ukiah Unified School District
>> > > 925 N. State St.
>> > > Ukiah, CA 95482
>>
>> These IQ 85 invaders are an obsolete people who have been encouraged
>> to cross the border. They are the dregs of central America, their
>> homelands are glad to rid of them. Do you want them here?
>>
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>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>That describes 95% of the white Europeans that came here...poor white
>trash, potato famers, religious fanatics that drove their neighbors
>crazy, kids coming out of their ass, a dozen at a time.
And they created a nation that put all others to shame.
Yea... Freedom sucks sometimes. If you're willing to sell some of it
away you can live in what you think is a better country. You didn't
answer the question though. What country?
Right. The problems started when employers were allowed to hire
illegal aliens without fear of prosecution. The demand for labor
remained the same, but the supply increased. We could imprison and
deport 12 million people, braking up families and disrupt the lives of
the poor at great costs. Or we could imprison a few CEOs for allowing
undocumented workers to work. A few CEOs could write home about being
gang butt raped and the practice of hiring illegals would stop mucho
rapido. No jobs, no illegal workers.
Nothing to do with freedom. In fact the very high murder rate in the
US is actually due mostly to the ex slaves and their descendants.
> If you're willing to sell some of it away you can live in what you think is a better country.
You have absolutely no idea what I think is a better country.
> You didn't answer the question though.
Yes I did.
> What country?
Depends on what measure you use, as I said.
> Right. The problems started when employers were
> allowed to hire illegal aliens without fear of prosecution.
Nope, that was always the case.
> The demand for labor remained the same,
No they didnt. There were in fact times when the demand for labor
was so poor that quite a few of the legals actually suicided, essentially
because there was no way back to where they came from.
> but the supply increased.
And the unemployment rate bottomed at 4.x% with an immense
legal and illegal immigration rate, and the participation rate at
an all time historic high, just before the clowns were allowed
to completely implode the entire world financial system, again.
> We could imprison and deport 12 million people,
There is no way to know how many illegals there are, by definition.
> braking up families
Not sure that would put a brake on familys. It isnt even clear if many familys
would be broken up either compared with what the illegal immigration did.
> and disrupt the lives of the poor at great costs. Or we could
> imprison a few CEOs for allowing undocumented workers to work.
It aint the CEOs that do the recruiting in the larger operations.
> A few CEOs could write home about being gang butt raped
> and the practice of hiring illegals would stop mucho rapido.
Bet it wouldnt.
> No jobs, no illegal workers.
There will always be jobs in operations with no CEOs.
You planning to jail everyone who employs an illegal to mow their
lawn or wash the car or get some work done on the house etc too ?
Cant see that any party stupid enough to go that route would last long electorally.
Our medical system is the way it is because we are free to buy
insurance or not, pay by cash, get a CT for a headache, wait for a
scratch to get gangrenous - that's freedom.
> In fact the very high murder rate in the
> US is actually due mostly to the ex slaves and their descendants.
Wow.... When was the last time an ex-slave committed murder?
> > If you're willing to sell some of it away you can live in what you think is a better country.
>
> You have absolutely no idea what I think is a better country.
That's why I asked.
> > You didn't answer the question though.
>
> Yes I did.
>
> > What country?
>
> Depends on what measure you use, as I said.
Not the measure I use, the measure *you* use. I'd like to know
specifically what country or countries are better than the US. If you
could live anywhere in the world, where would it be?
Lie with medicare.
> pay by cash, get a CT for a headache, wait for a scratch to get gangrenous - that's freedom.
You can do that anywhere, not just in the US.
>> In fact the very high murder rate in the US is actually
>> due mostly to the ex slaves and their descendants.
> Wow.... When was the last time an ex-slave committed murder?
One of their descendants, just minutes ago.
>>> If you're willing to sell some of it away you can live in what you think is a better country.
>> You have absolutely no idea what I think is a better country.
> That's why I asked.
But you never did say what criterion you want to use.
It isnt true of that alleged 'freedom' you made such a fool of yourself above.
>>> You didn't answer the question though.
>> Yes I did.
>>> What country?
>> Depends on what measure you use, as I said.
> Not the measure I use, the measure *you* use.
I'm not silly enough to make any such claim.
> I'd like to know specifically what country or countries are better than the US.
Like I said, that depends on what measure you use for better.
> If you could live anywhere in the world, where would it be?
Depends on my circumstances.
> You planning to jail everyone who employs an illegal to mow their
> lawn or wash the car or get some work done on the house etc too ?
Big difference. You don't put the guy that mows the lawn on the
payroll. That's like asking Joe the Plumber to see the I9's for
all of his employees.
>>> No jobs, no illegal workers.
>> You planning to jail everyone who employs an illegal to mow their
>> lawn or wash the car or get some work done on the house etc too ?
> Big difference. You don't put the guy that mows the lawn on the payroll.
Its still a job for him.
> That's like asking Joe the Plumber to see the I9's for all of his employees.
Yes, completely impractical, which is what I was saying a bit cryptically.