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How many signals will it take before Americans drop the SUV and the
motorboat?
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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Never underestimate the will of a people to do nothing"
Even the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico doesn't seem to be getting that
message across too well.
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www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride
On Jun 26, 6:29 am, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> are you calling BP "god"?
"God" is the one that gave the "OK" for it to happen.
Nothing can happen WITHOUT God's will.
I know. NOTHING at all has happened. Not more bikes or fewer SUVs.
Just the shareholders got fucked, and that may be another way for God
to send a message.
What we are told on the media here (not sure how true it is) is that
many of the shareholders of BP are pension funds.
That means the people who will feel the pain from this (apart obviously
from those who live on the coast of Louisiana and thereabouts) are
anyone who has their pension fund invested in BP - and they won't
actually feel the pain until they retire. So all in all the punishment
doesn't fit the crime and isn't imposed on the perpetrator.
My dear Jim, in my book of the jungle all those who feed the Hungry
Lion are guilty as charged. All those who burn gas too, specially
those who waste it with reckless abandon, such as SUVs.
That's not punishment. Investment is risky, as everyone knows. The
pension investors are experiencing the negative consequences of their
risky action instead of the positive as they have for so many years.
However, if BP can be shown to have been negligent or criminal, the
shareholders would, I think, be able to file suit to get back at least
some of their loss.
K
I understand risk. I invested in my employer's 401K when I joined the
company. I invested 10% pre-tax pay for the entire 15 years I worked there.
The company (a large bank) matched it up to 6%. So, for 15 years I put away
the equivalent of 16% of my gross salary. It was making 8-12% interest (you
had to be invested in 100% company stock to participate) during most of
those years, including one huge stock split. In 1999 my 401K was worth over
$300K. When I was laid off in 2005 it was worth $50K. It's worth less than
half of that now. If I had simply shoved 10% of my salary under my mattress
I'd have a HELL OF A LOT MORE $ than I do now. But...that's the risk of
investing. I'm just holding out hope that either, the stock will rebound, or
some "real" bank will buy those putzes, and the stock will re-bound.
Otherwise, I'm basically screwed, since I'm pushing 60. Thank jeebus that I
have very few expenses and a paid-off house! I think I will actually be able
to live on Social Security. Oh, and my former employer took no bailouts and
didn't have any "subprime" loans. They just don't know how to run a
business!
Am I too strict in calling them "hyenas," who work with the
"lion" (corporation)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI8G3UefIkU
Or these shareholders who only care about their own share (the lion's
share), who have invested in a dirty industry, should be spared from
the Law of the Jungle?
If you don't believe me, go to the church and check the parking lot.
Most Christians consider those who take an ecological stand "enviro-
nuts" and vehemently deny climate change.
They even call it a religion... that's my religion anyway, not
sacrificial lambs (Jesus) who didn't solve a thing.
My hammock is the last stand against the Christians...
Christians are diverse. How about First United Methodist Church of
Germantown in Philadelphia? Even United Methodists are diverse.
F.U.M.C.O.G. members disproportionately believe that man-made global
warming is for real, and even disproportionately do things about it. By
driving more fuel-efficient cars, driving less, recycling more, using
energy-efficient lighting more, consuming less, and favoring governmental
policies that motive reductions in consumption of non-renewable fuels.
That particular congregation is the one that stood behind their openly
lesbian associate pastor while she was tried and eventually defrocked for
being an unrepentant practicing homosexual (which made USA national news).
That congregation remembers who Christ stood up for - the poor and
downtrodden. F.U.M.C.O.G.'s members and "regular visitors" are also
disproportionately anti-war, as Christ was.
How about the Quakers? Those are Christians! How about the Amish?
The Amish are in most ways as conservative as Lubavitch orthodox Jews and
Jehovah's Witnesses, and are even-more "old-fashioned" (they eschew home
electrical appliances and motor vehicles and restrict their telephone use
to outdoor public telephones), but they are close to being as peaceful as
Quakers.
There was even debate over 200 years ago as to whether Christians
threatened the security of the United States of America by being
anti-war. (I suspect the more-war-favorable "deists" were referring
heavily to Quakers as the unwilling-to-go-to-war Christians.)
Plenty of other Christian congregations in/near Philadelphia and
elsewhere are similar, as opposed to what I suspect your idea of a
Cristian is - a war-mongering SUV driver.
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- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
It seems to me like the Christians of the South and North worship
different gods.
Down south, a Christian without SUV is a wuss.
But must Christians have adapted to survive one way or another.
Survival is important in the jungle. ;)
Hey Jim, I'm joining the movement. Is there an application or fee or
something?
(I included this in my webpage)
My latest name, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock," means SLOW as in Tantra and bicycle, and
LAID BACK as in hammock, to save energy. It may imply a REFORESTATION
CAMPAIGN to hang the hammock.
No, I don't think so. I guess you could buy a t-shirt to help fund the
website or something.
I've not spoken to whoever it is who runs it so you probably know as
much about it as I do.
Appropriately enough, things seem to happen quite slowly on the slow
bicycle movement
blog.
> (I included this in my webpage)
>
> My latest name, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock," means SLOW as in Tantra and bicycle, and
> LAID BACK as in hammock, to save energy. It may imply a REFORESTATION
> CAMPAIGN to hang the hammock.
Good idea. You may need to grow plenty of flax, hemp, cotton or
whatever to make the hammocks out of too.
I see, just like mine. ;)
>
> I've not spoken to whoever it is who runs it so you probably know as
> much about it as I do.
Nobody in charge? No president?
It sounds reasonable. Who made us participate in the Rat Race in the
first place?
>
> Appropriately enough, things seem to happen quite slowly on the slow
> bicycle movement
> blog.
Good, good, maybe they use mules for the mail.
>
> > (I included this in my webpage)
>
> > My latest name, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock," means SLOW as in Tantra and bicycle, and
> > LAID BACK as in hammock, to save energy. It may imply a REFORESTATION
> > CAMPAIGN to hang the hammock.
>
> Good idea. You may need to grow plenty of flax, hemp, cotton or
> whatever to make the hammocks out of too.
>
> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride
I'm for fair trade. Growing hemp may get me in trouble with the law.
Is anyone else you know participating of the Slow Movement?
No, but I know a fair few cyclists who aren't bothered about how fast
they cycle.
I haven't been out with them myself yet, but there is a group in Bath
which organise rides called "Recycle Your Sundays". These rides are
reputed to be very slow, stopping wherever there is anything interesting
- the complete antithesis of the 'club run'.
Wow, I like that. I could ride my chopper and my Indiana Banana hat
and go around to the nudist beach or something.
I live next to the beach and I haven't gone this year. Not only it's
dangerous out there, it's depressing.
My garden is the best place to be so far.
I favor 90%... But we have taken the wrong direction and have plunged
into SUVs at the time we should have taken up the bicycle.
That's rather good news...
Instead of a long agonizing death, we will die rather quickly in our
own shit.
The current system is just unable and unwilling to slow down. Who will
write our history on this planet? ;)