DTV converters
Jeff
Who has one they like?
I'm going to try the Channel Master CM7000, but I have another coupon
to spend.
I see that there are some that perform well, but don't hold up well
from the customer reviews. The dish network TR40 is one.
How about the RCA?
Jeff
John A. Weeks III
Jeff <dont_...@all.uk> wrote:
> Just got my DTV converter coupons and am search of a converter.
>
> Who has one they like?
If you have any analog stations in your area that will stay
running after the cut-over, you will want a feature called
analog pass-through. If you have a higher quality TV that
has composite video and RCA audio jacks, you will want a
converter that has line level outputs. If you want to get
near-HD quality video or surround sound, you will wabt to
get an ATSC tuner rather than a converter, a device that
is not covered by the coupons.
-john-
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Jeff wrote:
> How about the RCA?
> Jeff
The problem with buying any of these converters is that you won't truly
know how well they work until the conversion goes into effect! I bought
one when the coupons first came out and now that the conversion date has
been postponed, it'll be well-past the warranty time of a year when it
will be put to the test!
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Jeff wrote:
> How about the RCA?
> Jeff
Be aware that the coupon only covers the first $40 of the cost of any
converter you purchase.
albu...@mailinator.com
First, the government coupon program was/is a partial scam. I send for
coupons early and when I finally received them they had expired by
eight days. In other words, they held them until expired and then
mailed them. I live in an affluent community. That's significant
because I then applied for two more in my brother's name from his
Detroit. address. The coupons showed up in ten days. I purchased two
cheapo Magnavox boxes from Wal*Mart for $49 less the coupon. They have
worked flawlessly for months. There is very little involved in a
converter box. If not for the coupon program and the hype, they should
be about $10. If anything were to fail in a converter box, I would
just purchase a digital TV and be done with it.
www.Queensbridge.us
This is what we got
http://sn.im/trsdtv
read the reviews there
Install info help for Seniro Citizens at
http://sn.im/how2dtv
John A. Weeks III
info_at_1-sc...@foo.com (spendwize.com) wrote:
> The problem with buying any of these converters is that you won't truly
> know how well they work until the conversion goes into effect! I bought
> one when the coupons first came out and now that the conversion date has
> been postponed, it'll be well-past the warranty time of a year when it
> will be put to the test!
More misinformation. All stations that are going digital have
had their DTV transmitters up and running for quite some time,
in fact, as long as 5 years. You converter should work right
now just as things are. If it don't work now, it isn't going
to work after the cut-over.
albu...@mailinator.com
> In article <4992f706$0$5057$6c36a...@news.usenetserver.com>,
>
> info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com) wrote:
> > The problem with buying any of these converters is that you won't truly
> > know how well they work until the conversion goes into effect! I bought
> > one when the coupons first came out and now that the conversion date has
> > been postponed, it'll be well-past the warranty time of a year when it
> > will be put to the test!
>
> More misinformation. All stations that are going digital have
> had their DTV transmitters up and running for quite some time,
> in fact, as long as 5 years. You converter should work right
> now just as things are. If it don't work now, it isn't going
> to work after the cut-over.
>
> -john-
>
change over sooner rather than later? In many cases you receive three
channels instead of the single analog channel. You get movie and
weather channels and so forth. It's like getting free cable for us
tightwads.
NoSpa...@lousyisp.gov
> And if the stations are already on digital as almost all are, why not
>change over sooner rather than later? In many cases you receive three
>channels instead of the single analog channel. You get movie and
>weather channels and so forth. It's like getting free cable for us
>tightwads.
You mean cable is THAT bad? I'm glad I don't subscribe.
My extra channels consist of the following:
Qubo (kids and mostly PC kids from the short sampling I've done) on
two channels 24/7. Just how many kids are watching at 2.00 am?
Weather for every little rinky-dinky town for 100 miles around
repeated ad infinitum. On two channels too!
The NYC traffic report which consists of views from the camera
monitors on the tunnels, bridges, and major intersections
Universal Sports which seems to be the last Olympics -- or maybe the
one before repeated over and over again.
Ion Life, a subset of the Ion channel which seems to broadcast
infomercials 24/7. There is actually one useful show here from the UK
about gadgets.
Vme, a Spanish language which seems to occasionally have a good
cooking show if I spoke Spanish. We already have three Spanish
channels all of which have power at least 10 times greater than PBS
according to the govt. If you're going to let them have such space at
least make them put in subtitles.
A "worship" channel which seems to be the usual silliness.
About 9 audio only (no picture) channels which seem to be somehow
related to that "worship" channel.
And one tiny bright spot: ...........
One of the weather channels is replaced from about 7.30 pm to 9.00
(plus) by a rerun of the 6.00 News and the following local news.
Great! IMO, all the good stuff is on between 6.00 pm and 8.00 pm and
then the TV goes toilet time.
Yeah, that was really worth the effort!
Gordon
w_UnZ2dnU...@earthlink.com:
I went to Radio Shack and got the one they sell. The same
unit is available under a different name at Best Buy.
It cost about $20.00 over the coupon price. But it works
great. I use the composite video outputs, not the RF.
You are going to need a decent antenna as well. I am getting
but with two bowties arranged a dual dipole.
Gordon
D71406.071...@news-1.octanews.net:
> If you want to get
> near-HD quality video or surround sound, you will wabt to
> get an ATSC tuner rather than a converter, a device that
> is not covered by the coupons.
>
Ahh, John.
the Converters have are an ATSC Tuner. Otherwise they
would not get the digital broadcasts.
Rod Speed
> Jeff <dont_...@all.uk> wrote
>> Just got my DTV converter coupons and am search of a converter.
>> Who has one they like?
>> I'm going to try the Channel Master CM7000, but I have another coupon to spend.
>> I see that there are some that perform well, but don't hold up
>> well from the customer reviews. The dish network TR40 is one.
>> How about the RCA?
> I went to Radio Shack and got the one they sell. The
> same unit is available under a different name at Best Buy.
> It cost about $20.00 over the coupon price. But it works
> great. I use the composite video outputs, not the RF.
> You are going to need a decent antenna as well.
Nope, many find they can use poor antennas with DTV fine.
In fact many find that its a lot cheaper to get a converter than to replace a poor antenna.
larry
crap infesting the tv screen. Our local cartoonavision news
(Fox) has the bottom 1/3 of the screen covered with animated
channel/ temp/ time/ reporter/ story tag/ studio tag/ and
more swirling color streaks. The top 1/3 has breaking news
tags and more swirling color. The other night it was
difficult figuring out where the tornado was in the
remaining thin horizontal strip between the banners. The
other local channels burn the top and bottom quarter of the
screen. Our PBS station actually has no persistent banners
except during beg weeks. I want my screen back! I want to
see the ice on the road, where the football/puck/golfball is
rolling, the hanging wall cloud, the hot air balloon
festival, the ladder truck rescue.
-- larry / dallas
Lou
<albu...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:4f4e262c-a0ef-4f74...@i18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 11, 8:08 pm, "John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> > In article <4992f706$0$5057$6c36a...@news.usenetserver.com>,
> >
> > info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com) wrote:
> > > The problem with buying any of these converters is that you won't
truly
> > > know how well they work until the conversion goes into effect! I
bought
> > > one when the coupons first came out and now that the conversion date
has
> > > been postponed, it'll be well-past the warranty time of a year when it
> > > will be put to the test!
> >
> > More misinformation. All stations that are going digital have
> > had their DTV transmitters up and running for quite some time,
> > in fact, as long as 5 years. You converter should work right
> > now just as things are. If it don't work now, it isn't going
> > to work after the cut-over.
> >
> > -john-
> >
> And if the stations are already on digital as almost all are, why not
> change over sooner rather than later?
Because not everyone has a converter.
Shaun Eli
Look for features you might want:
-- does it have a program guide? (some do, some don't, some are
better than others)
-- does it have a VCR timer? This means you can program it to switch
channels automatically at certain times to use it with a VCR to record
shows on different channels.
-- does it have S-video output if your TV has S-video inputs. A
friend of mine said he compared the picture using two different cables
and S-video was noticeably better (he was using the ChannelMaster dtv
converter box).
Shaun Eli
http://www.BrainChampagne.com
Brain Champagne: Clever Comedy for Smart Minds (sm)
John A. Weeks III
Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
More misinformation. The converters only have SD type
composite video and stereo audio outputs. An ATSC tuner
has HD video out and Dolby Digital 5.1 sound. That is
why the former is called a converter and not a tuner,
and why the latter is far superior device.
Gordon
> In article <Xns9BB093E0668C...@85.214.105.209>,
> Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>
>> "John A. Weeks III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote in news:john-
>> D71406.071...@news-1.octanews.net:
>>
>> > If you want to get
>> > near-HD quality video or surround sound, you will wabt to
>> > get an ATSC tuner rather than a converter, a device that
>> > is not covered by the coupons.
>> >
>>
>> Ahh, John.
>> the Converters have are an ATSC Tuner. Otherwise they
>> would not get the digital broadcasts.
>
> More misinformation. The converters only have SD type
> composite video and stereo audio outputs. An ATSC tuner
> has HD video out and Dolby Digital 5.1 sound. That is
> why the former is called a converter and not a tuner,
> and why the latter is far superior device.
>
> -john-
>
OK, I see what you mean. Both a converter and a tuner
can tune in DTV broadcasts. But this thing called a
tuner has more and better outputs.
John A. Weeks III
Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> OK, I see what you mean. Both a converter and a tuner
> can tune in DTV broadcasts. But this thing called a
> tuner has more and better outputs.
A few years back, a lot of "HD Ready" TVs were sold. They
had HD quality video displays, but only had SD tuners. Adding
a converter allows them to see DTV, but not HDTV. Adding a
true ATSC tuner will give them an HD picture, and allow them
to have surround sound if they have a 5.1 sound system.
BigDog1
> In article <Xns9BB0DB7544EC7greederxprt...@85.214.105.209>,
>
> Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> > OK, I see what you mean. Both a converter and a tuner
> > can tune in DTV broadcasts. But this thing called a
> > tuner has more and better outputs.
>
> A few years back, a lot of "HD Ready" TVs were sold. They
> had HD quality video displays, but only had SD tuners. Adding
> a converter allows them to see DTV, but not HDTV. Adding a
> true ATSC tuner will give them an HD picture, and allow them
> to have surround sound if they have a 5.1 sound system.
>
> -john-
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
> ======================================================================
Yep. Bought one of those about 4 years. A 42" Panasonic HD ready
16:9 format CRT. It doesn't have a ATSC tuner but has both component
and HDMI inputs for HD signal sources. It's been attached to both
Comcast and DirecTV HD DVRs. Bright, tack sharp 1080i picture. Much
better than any LCD I've looked at, even at 1080p. Plasmas are as
good, maybe even a little better, but they're still way out of my
price range.
BigDog1
> <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
Why wouldn't someone who needs one, not have it yet? It's not like it
hasn't been two years or more since this change over was announced.
These are the same people who don't know Christmas comes on December
25th every year; or who waited until the night before a term paper was
due to start on it. Anyone who's not ready now, isn't likely to be
ready in June, October or even next year. No reason to delay it for
those of us who take care of our business.
John A. Weeks III
<34ef36fd-05ff-43fa...@n10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
BigDog1 <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep. Bought one of those about 4 years. A 42" Panasonic HD ready
> 16:9 format CRT.
A large CRT can look stunning. That is about the only way to
get a good black level in a picture without spending a zillion
on a plasma set. The only issue is that they weigh about as
much as an aircraft carrier. I cannot move my Sony 36" CRT
without help.
-john-
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Lou
"BigDog1" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It doesn't delay it for those who have a converter - go ahead and use it.
What it does delay is when broadcasters MUST shut off the traditional analog
signal.
Ralph
> "BigDog1" <bigdog...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Because until those analog transmitters are turned off the digital
transmitters are operating at 50% or less power. Many of us are the
outside edge of the current range of the digital signals, but will be
good to go once the power is turned up. I'm one of those, and I'm
pissed! Because a comparatively small number of people can't get
their act together the new Socialist, err... Democratic administration
has decided to move the date. Bullshit!
BigDog1
>
> BigDog1 <bigdog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yep. Bought one of those about 4 years. A 42" Panasonic HD ready
> > 16:9 format CRT.
>
> A large CRT can look stunning. That is about the only way to
> get a good black level in a picture without spending a zillion
> on a plasma set. The only issue is that they weigh about as
> much as an aircraft carrier. I cannot move my Sony 36" CRT
> without help.
>
> -john-
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
> ======================================================================
Mine weighs in at just under 200 lbs. It's the only TV I've ever
owned that I had to have delivered. Haven't moved it since the
delivery people set it up, and couldn't if I wanted to.
BigDog1
That's correct, and I agree. But it may not be so bad, at least not
in all markets. The mandatory date has been moved, but individual
stations are free to make the change any time they want. In my area,
the NBC affiliate announced today that they were turning off their
analog on, or very near the original date. The CBS station said they
are making the change by the end of the month. I'm betting the rest
will fall in line because they'll lose too many viewers to others
stations with stronger signals and greater range.
Jeff
Well, they weren't available two years ago, even one year ago. Just
some very pricey ATSC tuners in the well over $100 range.
And my understanding is that the later versions, even of the same box,
are better. I suspected that and delayed my order. Some of the early
boxes had severe reliability problems.
It's always a tradeoff with electronic gizmos, they always get
better, and cheaper. When do you buy?
I should have ordered mine sooner, and when I did, the coupons were
back ordered. I did get an ATSC tuner for the computer, long long ago...
Jeff
John A. Weeks III
Jeff <dont_...@all.uk> wrote:
> Well, they weren't available two years ago, even one year ago. Just
> some very pricey ATSC tuners in the well over $100 range.
So, with a dot UK e-mail address, why does this matter to you
anyway? The UK is not part of the DTV conversion that I am aware
of.
> It's always a tradeoff with electronic gizmos, they always get
> better, and cheaper. When do you buy?
That is always going to be true. If you wait, you risk missing out.
If you adopt early, you risk getting something that will be obsolete.
You have to buy based on your personal values -- when the value of
having the device is more than the value you place on the money,
then the return on investment is positive for you. That is the
time to buy.
Jeff
> In article <Oq-dncET7ryyewXU...@earthlink.com>,
> Jeff <dont_...@all.uk> wrote:
>
>> Well, they weren't available two years ago, even one year ago. Just
>> some very pricey ATSC tuners in the well over $100 range.
>
> So, with a dot UK e-mail address, why does this matter to you
> anyway? The UK is not part of the DTV conversion that I am aware
> of.
It's a fake address there is no all.uk and there could be none. I'm in
Atlanta. I did not want to use a real address as the site owner would
get traffic from email harvesting, just hitting the domain.
>
>> It's always a tradeoff with electronic gizmos, they always get
>> better, and cheaper. When do you buy?
>
> That is always going to be true. If you wait, you risk missing out.
> If you adopt early, you risk getting something that will be obsolete.
> You have to buy based on your personal values -- when the value of
> having the device is more than the value you place on the money,
> then the return on investment is positive for you. That is the
> time to buy.
That's about it.
Personally I'm adverse to getting first generation goods, but then,
I've worked as a repair technician.
Jeff
>
> -john-
>
John A. Weeks III
Derald <der...@invalid.net> wrote:
> The silly irony is that stations, by simply announcing their
> intention to FCC by Monday (Feb 9), are free to kill their analog signal
> on Tuesday (Feb 17) as originally scheduled which will still leave
> laggard consumers out of the club, at least for those specific stations.
> Your patriotic tax dollars at work.
Actually, the government has turned a huge profit on the DTV
conversion. They took in $19-billion so far in spectrum auctions,
and only spent about $2-billion on the new technology. Kudos
to the government for bringing this wonderful new high-quality
TV to the public while still turning a profit. Who says that
government doesn't work any more?
John A. Weeks III
Derald <der...@invalid.net> wrote:
> "John A. Weeks III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
>
> >Kudos
> >to the government for bringing this wonderful new high-quality
> >TV to the public while still turning a profit. Who says that
> >government doesn't work any more?
> So, you actually believe that seizing a public resource not just
> once but twice by fiat and then auctioning access [...]
The word "fiat" when used in this manner is a code word that
means that the drivel was written by a nut case. Take that
as your kook alert for the day.
clams_casino
> Just got my DTV converter coupons and am search of a converter.
>
>
If I recall correctly, someone on this newsgroup posted a link to a
site that would show the digital channels available in a zip code.
Anyone have that link?.
Jon von Leipzig@mayday.com
> Jeff <dont_bug...@all.uk> wrote in news:DaCdnaBBCsUQ-
> w_UnZ2dnUVZ_gOWn...@earthlink.com:
Sounds like the one I got at RS. Just installed it, using the old
rabbit ears. Works great. Much improved pic, about double the number
of channels. Not much worth watching, tho. If it weren't for my
religion, (football) I probably wouldn't even own a TV.
John A. Weeks III
<e161c684-3673-4d06...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> Sounds like the one I got at RS. Just installed it, using the old
> rabbit ears. Works great. Much improved pic, about double the number
> of channels. Not much worth watching, tho. If it weren't for my
> religion, (football) I probably wouldn't even own a TV.
If you are a football fan, which you write that you are, that is
reason enough to get HD TV. Football in HD is a whole different
game. Things that are fuzzy in SD are crystal clear in HD, such
as the names on the uniforms and the ball flying through the
air. Instant replay suddenly becomes much more clear, and the
wide screen allows more of the play to be in the picture. If
you see football once in HD, you will never go back.
Jeff
Jeff
Here's the update on my converter boxes. Fed Ex misdelivered my
Channel Master Box a block off, so I now have it. In the meantime I
bought the Zenith (DTT901) box (also sold as Insignia, I think).
Sensitivity of the Zenith is considerably better. Stations the Channel
Master is iffy on with considerable drop outs are perfect on the Zenith
(same antenna). The Zenith also picks up stations I can't get at all on
the Channel Master.
Antenna is a cheap rabbit ear combo. The Channel Master has features
that the Zenith doesn't have, like a better program guide and S-Video out.
What is the RS box, is it an Apex?
Jeff
clams_casino
Thanks - oddly, I'm getting a channel that's not listed in our paper &
I'm not finding any information about it (RTN - 10.2). It appears to be
an independent station where its programming does not match anything the
paper nor cable.
Gordon
news:jbednakXUIVhhwPU...@earthlink.com:
> Here's the update on my converter boxes. Fed Ex misdelivered my
> Channel Master Box a block off, so I now have it. In the meantime I
> bought the Zenith (DTT901) box (also sold as Insignia, I think).
> Sensitivity of the Zenith is considerably better. Stations the
> Channel Master is iffy on with considerable drop outs are perfect on
> the Zenith (same antenna). The Zenith also picks up stations I can't
> get at all on the Channel Master.
>
> Antenna is a cheap rabbit ear combo. The Channel Master has features
> that the Zenith doesn't have, like a better program guide and S-Video
> out.
>
> What is the RS box, is it an Apex?
>
> Jeff
>
>
The RS box identifies it'self as "Digital Stream" When it
powers up. I can't comment on sensitivity as I have nothing
to compare it to. It does have the program guide, several
zoom levels for fitting the wider digital picture to the
SD screen. It remembers the zoom setting from channel to
channel. Good program guide with episode discriptions where
available. Closed captioning, alternate audio channels,
Outputs are RF and composite. No S-video. Interestingly,
it has a cable/air tuning selection.
JG
> "Jon von Leip...@mayday.com" <JonLeip...@myway.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like the one I got at RS. Just installed it, using the old
> > rabbit ears. Works great. Much improved pic, about double the number
> > of channels. Not much worth watching, tho. If it weren't for my
> > religion, (football) I probably wouldn't even own a TV.
>
> If you are a football fan, which you write that you are, that is
> reason enough to get HD TV. Football in HD is a whole different
> game. Things that are fuzzy in SD are crystal clear in HD, such
> as the names on the uniforms and the ball flying through the
> air. Instant replay suddenly becomes much more clear, and the
> wide screen allows more of the play to be in the picture. If
> you see football once in HD, you will never go back.
Is the CBS DTV channel as underpowered in other areas as it is in
Chicago ? WBBM is on dtv ch. 3 here is really low power..JG
John A. Weeks III
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> Thanks - oddly, I'm getting a channel that's not listed in our paper &
> I'm not finding any information about it (RTN - 10.2). It appears to be
> an independent station where its programming does not match anything the
> paper nor cable.
That is the Retro Television Network out of Rhode Island. You can
google for it. The broadcast on channel 51, and your tv displays
it as channel 10. 10.1 is the NBC station, 10.2 is RTN.
John A. Weeks III
<1a92db88-97ee-47c1...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
JG <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
WBBM is caught in the transition mess. They were given a
channel number that has since been taken back by the FCC.
Their new channel number is 11, but there is an analog
station running on 11 until the shutdown. Since WBBM cannot
be on that same channel, they are running on a very low power
temporary antenna. After 11 goes dark, WBBM will come up
on that antenna over at the Sears Tower at their full power.
Until then, they are limping along.
clams_casino
>In article <Coznl.30756$xK6....@newsfe12.iad>,
> clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Jeff wrote:
>>Thanks - oddly, I'm getting a channel that's not listed in our paper &
>>I'm not finding any information about it (RTN - 10.2). It appears to be
>>an independent station where its programming does not match anything the
>>paper nor cable.
>>
>>
>
>That is the Retro Television Network out of Rhode Island. You can
>google for it. The broadcast on channel 51, and your tv displays
>it as channel 10. 10.1 is the NBC station, 10.2 is RTN.
>
>-john-
>
>
>
Thanks - I googled most evreything I could think of and never could find
a hint.
John A. Weeks III
clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
Try googling for "RTN 10.2". I know it sounds too obvious, but
it worked like a champ for me.
clams_casino
>In article <E_Rnl.13995$EO2....@newsfe04.iad>,
> clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>John A. Weeks III wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>In article <Coznl.30756$xK6....@newsfe12.iad>,
>>>clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jeff wrote:
>>>>Thanks - oddly, I'm getting a channel that's not listed in our paper &
>>>>I'm not finding any information about it (RTN - 10.2). It appears to be
>>>>an independent station where its programming does not match anything the
>>>>paper nor cable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>That is the Retro Television Network out of Rhode Island. You can
>>>google for it. The broadcast on channel 51, and your tv displays
>>>it as channel 10. 10.1 is the NBC station, 10.2 is RTN.
>>>
>>>-john-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Thanks - I googled most evreything I could think of and never could find
>>a hint.
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>Try googling for "RTN 10.2". I know it sounds too obvious, but
>it worked like a champ for me.
>
>-john-
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Odd - it works fine now. When I attempted that a few days ago, I was
getting one screen of completely unrelated pages.
clams_casino
>Sounds like the one I got at RS. Just installed it, using the old
>rabbit ears. Works great. Much improved pic, about double the number
>of channels. Not much worth watching, tho. If it weren't for my
>religion, (football) I probably wouldn't even own a TV.
>
>
I don't watch much TV when the programs are actually being
broadcasted. I typically tape about a half dozen shows and view them
when I get around to them - typically six hrs straight on a weekend, by
passing the commercials.
Now that the digital is in place, is there any way to record (over the
air) without buying an expensive DVD recorder?
Is this now only possibly via cable?
Rod Speed
> Jon von Lei...@mayday.com wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the one I got at RS. Just installed it, using the old
>> rabbit ears. Works great. Much improved pic, about double the number
>> of channels. Not much worth watching, tho. If it weren't for my
>> religion, (football) I probably wouldn't even own a TV.
> I don't watch much TV when the programs are actually being broadcasted.
Yeah, me too.
> I typically tape about a half dozen shows and view them when I get around to them - typically six hrs straight on a
> weekend, by passing the commercials.
> Now that the digital is in place, is there any way to record (over the air) without buying an expensive DVD recorder?
Yep, I got a couple of cards for what used to be the main
PC that was no longer doing anything and record using that.
> Is this now only possibly via cable?
Nope, I do it with over the air broadcasts.
clams_casino
>In article <Coznl.30756$xK6....@newsfe12.iad>,
> clams_casino <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Jeff wrote:
>>Thanks - oddly, I'm getting a channel that's not listed in our paper &
>>I'm not finding any information about it (RTN - 10.2). It appears to be
>>an independent station where its programming does not match anything the
>>paper nor cable.
>>
>>
>
>That is the Retro Television Network out of Rhode Island. You can
>google for it. The broadcast on channel 51, and your tv displays
>it as channel 10. 10.1 is the NBC station, 10.2 is RTN.
>
>-john-
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>
>
RTN has several shows I'd like to watch, but I don't want to be up at 4
am to watch TV. Any suggestion as to whether the over-the-air digital
shows can be recorded, short of buying an expensive DVD recorder? Are
newer VCRs capable of recording digital shows over the air?
jdkki
Get a DTV card for the PC or a USB DTV stick.
> Are newer VCRs capable of recording digital shows over the air?
Not by themselves, but you can put a DTV converter between them and the antenna.
Gordon
$_U5....@newsfe20.iad:
> RTN has several shows I'd like to watch, but I don't want to be up at 4
> am to watch TV. Any suggestion as to whether the over-the-air digital
> shows can be recorded, short of buying an expensive DVD recorder? Are
> newer VCRs capable of recording digital shows over the air?
Well, if your DTV converter has Composite outputs, and your VCR has
composite inputs. It is a pretty easy connection. Just Make sure
that you DTV converter is on and tuned to RTN.