P T Barnum Gore, gets caught in his lies, public records tell the tale Gore holds OIL STOCKs
sr
carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a
clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on
consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's
example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a
"carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for
ecology, the planet is doomed.
For someone who says the sky is falling, he does very little. He says he
recycles and drives a hybrid. And he claims he uses renewable energy credits
to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his
film. (In reality, Paramount Classics, the film's distributor, pays this.)
Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive
consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a
10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a
4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in
Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme
personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.
Then there is the troubling matter of his energy use. In the Washington,
D.C., area, utility companies offer wind energy as an alternative to
traditional energy. In Nashville, similar programs exist. Utility customers
must simply pay a few extra pennies per kilowatt hour, and they can continue
living their carbon-neutral lifestyles knowing that they are supporting wind
energy. Plenty of businesses and institutions have signed up. Even the Bush
administration is using green energy for some federal office buildings, as
are thousands of area residents.
But according to public records, there is no evidence that Gore has signed
up to use green energy in either of his large residences. When contacted
Wednesday, Gore's office confirmed as much but said the Gores were looking
into making the switch at both homes. Talk about inconvenient truths.
Gore is not alone. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has
said, "Global warming is happening, and it threatens our very existence."
The DNC website applauds the fact that Gore has "tried to move people to
act." Yet, astoundingly, Gore's persuasive powers have failed to convince
his own party: The DNC has not signed up to pay an additional two pennies a
kilowatt hour to go green. For that matter, neither has the Republican
National Committee.
Maybe our very existence isn't threatened.
Gore has held these apocalyptic views about the environment for some time.
So why, then, didn't Gore dump his family's large stock holdings in
Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum? As executor of his family's trust, over the
years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy
has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive
areas.
Living carbon-neutral apparently doesn't mean living oil-stock free. Nor
does it necessarily mean giving up a mining royalty either.
Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in
Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in
royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his
property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of
barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.
The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of
credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put
forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't
he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of
his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to
radically change our lives.
Peter Schweizer is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of
Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy.
Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm
sr
#climategate : Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists for Global Warming
Fraud
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"sr" <sol...@uninets.net> wrote in message
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Ouroboros Rex
> ClimateScam
>
> #climategate : Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists for Global
> Warming Fraud
Lie.
HH&C
Ouroboros Rex
Same liar, same lie.
Bob F
Brought to you by the guy that started the weather channel with "the hottest
weather girls"? Now there's a reference.
HH&C
> HH&C wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 2:21 pm, "Ouroboros Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
> >> sr wrote:
> >>> ClimateScam
>
> >>> #climategate : Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists for Global
> >>> Warming Fraud
>
> >> Lie.
>
>
> Brought to you by the guy that started the weather channel with "the hottest
> weather girls"? Now there's a reference.
He staffed the back office with meteorologists. Sorry about you luck.
HH&C
> HH&C wrote:
> > On Nov 30, 2:21 pm, "Ouroboros Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
> >> sr wrote:
> >>> ClimateScam
>
> >>> #climategate : Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists for Global
> >>> Warming Fraud
>
> >> Lie.
>
>
> Same liar, same lie.
It's really him.
freeisbest
> Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their
> carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a
> clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on
> consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's
> example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a
> "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for
> ecology, the planet is doomed.
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You have such a rich fantasy life that I don't know where to begin,
really... I do wonder why you get all passionate about Al Gore, tho.
Is it that he was born rich, then went on to grow up handsome,
privileged, highly educated, politically fortunate, a two-term vice-
president of the U.S., and finally winner of a Nobel Peace Prize AND
an Oscar?
Bush Lover
That's against the law. Isn't it?
Socialists aren't allowed to make investments or possess wealth.
Only those loyal to Bush and Palin are.
Fox News says so.
Obama should resign over this fiasco. How can he run the country
when he can't even keep Gore in control?
This is another victory for the GOP. We'll be in the whitehouse by
Christmas.
HH&C
> On Nov 29, 4:44 am, "sr" <solo...@uninets.net> wrote:> Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their
> > carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a
> > clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on
> > consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's
> > example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a
> > "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for
> > ecology, the planet is doomed.
>
> -snip-
> You have such a rich fantasy life that I don't know where to begin,
> really... I do wonder why you get all passionate about Al Gore, tho.
> Is it that he was born rich, then went on to grow up handsome,
> privileged, highly educated, politically fortunate, a two-term vice-
> president of the U.S., and finally winner of a Nobel Peace Prize AND
> an Oscar?
Could it be that the 0.3 to 0.7 rise in temperature over that last 100
years is barely withing the tolerance of meteorological instruments
used within the past 100 years?
You want us to sabotage our economy based on that? Are you Chinese or
something?
freeisbest
Do tell us all about your years of research, study, travel and
contemplation in the field of climate dynamics. A list of your last
several peer-reviewed papers and your Ph.D. thesis title would be
nice. Which oil company do you work for?
HH&C
My specialty was satellite meteorology and tropical storms.
> Which oil company do you work for?
Which "wind" company do you work for?
Gunner Asch
so tell us allllll about Mr Gores "green" housing if you would be so
kind.....
Laugh laugh laugh
We will All be waiting
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Gunner Asch
Laugh laugh laugh...so tell us all about yours.
Ouroboros Rex
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:25:12 -0800 (PST), freeisbest
> <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 30, 6:16 pm, "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 30, 6:06 pm, freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�--------------------------
>>>> You have such a rich fantasy life that I don't know where to begin,
>>>> really... I do wonder why you get all passionate about Al Gore,
>>>> tho. Is it that he was born rich, then went on to grow up handsome,
>>>> privileged, highly educated, politically fortunate, a two-term
>>>> vice- president of the U.S., and finally winner of a Nobel Peace
>>>> Prize AND an Oscar?
>>>
>>> Could it be that the 0.3 to 0.7 rise in temperature over that last
>>> 100 years is barely withing the tolerance of meteorological
>>> instruments used within the past 100 years?
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Do tell us all about your years of research, study, travel and
>> contemplation in the field of climate dynamics. A list of your last
>> several peer-reviewed papers and your Ph.D. thesis title would be
>> nice. Which oil company do you work for?
>
>
> Laugh laugh laugh...so tell us all about yours.
He's not making the scientific claims here. Read much?
Ouroboros Rex
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:06:06 -0800 (PST), freeisbest
> <demeter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 29, 4:44 am, "sr" <solo...@uninets.net> wrote:
>>> Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb
>>> their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light
>>> bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy,
>>> dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible
>>> global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily
>>> points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle."
>>> But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is
>>> doomed.
>> -snip-
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> You have such a rich fantasy life that I don't know where to begin,
>> really... I do wonder why you get all passionate about Al Gore, tho.
>> Is it that he was born rich, then went on to grow up handsome,
>> privileged, highly educated, politically fortunate, a two-term vice-
>> president of the U.S., and finally winner of a Nobel Peace Prize AND
>> an Oscar?
>
>
> so tell us allllll about Mr Gores "green" housing if you would be so
> kind.....
Solar panels, green energy offsets, etc., etc., what's to tell?
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Tale of Two Houses
House #1
A 20 room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas.
Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated
by gas. In one month this residence consumes more energy than the
average American household does in a year. The average bill for
electricity and natural gas runs over $2400 per month. In natural gas
alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average
for an American home. This house is not situated in a Northern or
Midwestern 'snow belt' area. It's in the South.
House #2
Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national
university. This house incorporates every 'green' feature current home
construction can provide. The house is 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms)
and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central
closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing ground water
through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground.
The water (usually 67 degrees F) heats the house in the winter and
cools it in the summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or
natural gas and it consumes one-quarter electricity required for a
conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is
collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern.
Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground
purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then
irrigates the land surrounding the house. Surrounding flowers and shrubs
native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding
rural landscape.
HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville, Tennessee. It is the abode of the
'Environmentalist' Al Gore.
HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas. It is the residence of
the Ex-President of the United States, George W. Bush.
So whose house is gentler on the environment? Yet another story you
WON'T hear on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, or read about in the New York
Times or the Washington Post. Indeed, for Mr. Gore, it is truly an
"Inconvenient Truth."
A:
Read more:
http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/al-gore-house-47062202#ixzz0YSO3Hp01
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Gunner Asch wrote:
Which claims am I making? Be precise.
And we still havent heard bout the lads peer reviewed papers.
Why is that?
sr
> ClimateScam
>
> #climategate : Al Gore Sued By Over 30,000 Scientists for Global Warming
> Fraud
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
Al Gore Has Security Goons Assault Climategate Protesters
I hope the security detail at this Al Gore book signing isn't the Secret
service. If they are, this is a shameful episode in their history. Asking a
tough question isn't a crime, but Al Gore has his security goons physically
assault and forcibly remove people who asked him about the Climategate
scandal. You can see the protesters yelling on the way out, but they
originally started with a polite question. This is outrageous.
sr
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HH&C
> Gunner Asch wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:06:06 -0800 (PST), freeisbest
> > <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 29, 4:44 am, "sr" <solo...@uninets.net> wrote:
> >>> Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb
> >>> their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light
> >>> bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy,
> >>> dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible
> >>> global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily
> >>> points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle."
> >>> But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is
> >>> doomed.
> >> -snip-
> >> You have such a rich fantasy life that I don't know where to begin,
> >> really... I do wonder why you get all passionate about Al Gore, tho.
> >> Is it that he was born rich, then went on to grow up handsome,
> >> privileged, highly educated, politically fortunate, a two-term vice-
> >> president of the U.S., and finally winner of a Nobel Peace Prize AND
> >> an Oscar?
>
> > so tell us allllll about Mr Gores "green" housing if you would be so
> > kind.....
>
Compare and contrast to GW's home.
sr
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The home G.Bush had in TX when he was Pres. was Green. Only after the
Public complained about
Gore not living the Green life style did Gore have some Green improvements.
But, Gore is still an energy HOG
The Very Model of Sweetness and Light
http://openleft.com/diary/16237/a-deeper-look-at-global-warming-denialist-attacks
I M @ good guy
Open Left? Does that mean "world socialist",
or just "socialist"?
The script on that page is really amazing,
trying to dilute the seriousness of violation of
laws about information and data preservation.
Anybody who calls an AGW skeptic a denier
or denialist is an arrogant fool, there is no truth
about AGW to deny, there is no certainty, and it
is time for all scientists, journalists and politicians
to take the time necessary to get to the truth,
that is what skeptics want, that is what skeptics
do.
But who knows how much more will be
revealed in government investigations, one
of the unpleasant things about working
under government contract or grants is
that government can really lower the boom
if laws are broken.
The Very Model of Sweetness and Light
>On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:15:31 -0500, The Very Model of Sweetness and Light <ye_olde_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>"there was nothing exposed"
>>
>>http://openleft.com/diary/16237/a-deeper-look-at-global-warming-denialist-attacks
>
>
> Open Left? Does that mean ...
That means you can't dispute what the link says,
so you're descending into ad hominem fallacy.
> Anybody who calls an AGW skeptic a denier
"The reasons for using the term �skeptics� to identify some of those
who question climate science and �deniers� for others":
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/denier-vs-skeptic/
>... an arrogant fool, there is no truth...
You believe that human activities can't affect global climate,
but you have no evidence for your belief.
>if laws are broken.
Is it legal to steal emails, in your 'world'?
"Why Climate Denialists are Blind to Facts and Reason: The Role of Ideology"
http://www.celsias.com/article/why-climate-denialists-are-blind-facts-and-reason/
See also:
I M @ good guy
Light <ye_olde_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:09:14 -0500, "I M @ good guy" <I...@good.guy> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:15:31 -0500, The Very Model of Sweetness and Light <ye_olde_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"there was nothing exposed"
>>>
>>>http://openleft.com/diary/16237/a-deeper-look-at-global-warming-denialist-attacks
>>
>>
>> Open Left? Does that mean ...
>
>That means you can't dispute what the link says,
>so you're descending into ad hominem fallacy.
>
>> Anybody who calls an AGW skeptic a denier
>
>"The reasons for using the term “skeptics” to identify some of those
>who question climate science and “deniers” for others":
>
>http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/denier-vs-skeptic/
A blog, an opinion, of an NGO person?
http://platform.people4earth.org/group/ngo
Is that it, one person?
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/about/
and he presents graphs of temperature history?
>>... an arrogant fool, there is no truth...
>
>You believe that human activities can't affect global climate,
>but you have no evidence for your belief.
There is no global climate, climate is just
typical local weather.
>>if laws are broken.
>
>Is it legal to steal emails, in your 'world'?
No, are you sure anything was stolen,
maybe Jones decided he could get world sympathy
if he sacrificed his career.
>"Why Climate Denialists are Blind to Facts and Reason: The Role of Ideology"
>
>http://www.celsias.com/article/why-climate-denialists-are-blind-facts-and-reason/
>
>See also:
>
>http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
Well John didn't write the crackpot index
about AGW skeptics.
Even woger states that it is more a case
of nights not as cold as warmer days.
But I am like Donald Duck, I don't give
a darn, except before you ask me to pay
more taxes, give me a better reason than
a sultry night.
I have been interested in alternate
energy for 40 years, but even the architects
and heating engineers are not really into
reducing space heating fuel use, at least
not until recently more shallow geothermal
is being installed, but I can't afford that or
even justify the economics at my age.
The Very Model of Sweetness and Light
groups of scientists working for NASA and the National Climate Data Centre in the United
States, among others. Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same
results. The facts speak for themselves; there is no need for anyone to manipulate them.""
http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/11/30/0152244/Where-the-Global-Warming-Data-Is?from=rss
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:47:19 -0500, "I M @ good guy" <I...@good.guy> wrote:
> A blog, an opinion ...
Yet you can't dispute it.
> Is that it, one person?
You must not be able to read much.
> There is no global climate ...
You're quite confused.
>...before you ask me to pay
>more taxes, give me a better reason ...
WMD in Iraq?
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:09:14 -0500, "I M @ good guy" <I...@good.guy> wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:15:31 -0500, The Very Model of Sweetness and Light <ye_olde_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>"there was nothing exposed"
>>
>>http://openleft.com/diary/16237/a-deeper-look-at-global-warming-denialist-attacks
>
>
> Open Left? Does that mean ...
That means you can't dispute what the link says,
so you're descending into ad hominem fallacy.
> Anybody who calls an AGW skeptic a denier
"The reasons for using the term �skeptics� to identify some of those
who question climate science and �deniers� for others":
http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/denier-vs-skeptic/
>... an arrogant fool, there is no truth...
You believe that human activities can't affect global climate,
but you have no evidence for your belief.
>if laws are broken.
Is it legal to steal emails, in your 'world'?
"Why Climate Denialists are Blind to Facts and Reason: The Role of Ideology"
The Very Model of Sweetness and Light
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:50:08 +0100, Peter Muehlbauer <spamt...@AT.frankenexpress.de>
wrote:
>It's not a matter of "belief".
So offer a fact.
>Answer me one question, please.
>Do you think ...
Yes. I'm wondering why you don't.
The Very Model of Sweetness and Light
wrote:
>... typical for idiots.
You regurgitate whatever Rush Limbaugh tells you.
>This is part of religion.
You certainly don't have any data to support your
unwarranted beliefs.
>Evasion ...
>No answer, but instead a lousy try of calling name.
>... no answer at all.
>Instead evasion and combining my post with I am's.
>Which makes no sense in any way.
>I was ... simply ...parroting ...
>...like to play the role of a herald buoy ...
Nobody wondered about you.
Meanwhile, the data shows anthropogenic global warming.
"Last few decades WARMEST in 2,000 years and RATE
is unprecedented."
The Very Model of Sweetness and Light
of scientists working for NASA and the National Climate Data Centre in the United States,
among others. Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same results. The
facts speak for themselves; there is no need for anyone to manipulate them."
http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/11/30/0152244/Where-the-Global-Warming-Data-Is?from=rss
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:31:25 +0100, Peter Muehlbauer <spamt...@AT.frankenexpress.de>
wrote:
>... an IDIOT!
>And I won't answer...
You don't have any answers, but we
knew that already.