In reference to Conservative Jews
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> In point of fact, the poster claims to be a Conservative Jew.
>
> Not that there's anything /wrong/ with that.
Everything is wrong with that --mind you, not the Jewish part.
Conservatives are opposed to evolution and they refuse to allow
smarter ways of life to emerge.
(Such as the idea or riding a bike in the community. Tell me about it.
I got a Jewish community close by.)
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Jeff Thies
> On Jan 27, 12:52 am, Apostate<Apost...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In point of fact, the poster claims to be a Conservative Jew.
>>
>> Not that there's anything /wrong/ with that.
>
> Everything is wrong with that --mind you, not the Jewish part.
> Conservatives are opposed to evolution and they refuse to allow
> smarter ways of life to emerge.
I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
Just my take. I like all my Jewish friends and I think believing in
God is crazy.
Jeff
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> On 1/27/2011 5:07 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the
>
> deep jungle wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 12:52 am, Apostate<Apost...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> In point of fact, the poster claims to be a Conservative Jew.
>
> >> Not that there's anything /wrong/ with that.
>
> > Everything is wrong with that --mind you, not the Jewish part.
> > Conservatives are opposed to evolution and they refuse to allow
> > smarter ways of life to emerge.
>
> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
>
> Just my take. I like all my Jewish friends and I think believing in
> God is crazy.
>
> Jeff
Thank you for shedding light into this issue. I thought all
Conservatives were the same.
I think they are crazy AND dangerous.
Edward Dolan
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[...]
> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
Nope, it is the same with some Christians just as it is with some Jews.
Beliefs, actions and reality - all one thing.
> Just my take. I like all my Jewish friends and I think believing in God
> is crazy.
Well Hells Bells, I don't like anybody no matter their religion, but I don't
think believing in God is crazy. It is merely traditional in all cultures.
Why not take a few courses in sociology and anthropology to learn what it is
to be human. Why be an ignorant slob all of your life!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
SMS
> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
You're confusing conservative and orthodox Jews. There is no such thing
as "ultra-conservative," it's "ultra-orthodox." In any case
"conservative" doesn't describe "conservative Jews" politically, since
nearly all are politically moderate, and mostly Democratic. For a while
there was an increase in Republicanism among Jews, but the tea-party
nonsense put the kibosh on that.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
All conservatives are bastards who want to slow down the tide of
history.
Right wing, left wing, Jews, Christians and Muslims are all blind,
deaf and unwilling to speak...
http://www.atheiart.com/atheist_t-shirts/left_hand_image/large/three_wise_monkeys.png
Tºm Shermªn™ °_°
> On Jan 27, 12:52 am, Apostate<Apost...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > In point of fact, the poster claims to be a Conservative Jew.
>> >
> Everything is wrong with that --mind you, not the Jewish part.
> Conservatives are opposed to evolution and they refuse to allow
You should have read this before replying:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Judaism>.
--
T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
Edward Dolan
news:4d43212d$0$22099$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Jewish liberals thought they had a lot in common with Blacks, until the
Blacks told them otherwise. But that is the Jew for you, eternally wrong
about everything. They were so dumb they could not even figure out what
Hitler had in store for them. Folks, it does not get any dumber than that!
Obama and the g.d. liberal Dems are spending the country into bankruptcy.
Not even the Tea Party can save us!
Tºm Shermªn™ °_°
> "SMS"<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4d43212d$0$22099$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> On 1/28/2011 6:09 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
>>
>>> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
>>> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
>>> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
>>> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
>>
>> You're confusing conservative and orthodox Jews. There is no such thing as
>> "ultra-conservative," it's "ultra-orthodox." In any case "conservative"
>> doesn't describe "conservative Jews" politically, since nearly all are
>> politically moderate, and mostly Democratic. For a while there was an
>> increase in Republicanism among Jews, but the tea-party nonsense put the
>> kibosh on that.
>
> Jewish liberals thought they had a lot in common with Blacks, until the
> Blacks told them otherwise. But that is the Jew for you, eternally wrong
> about everything. They were so dumb they could not even figure out what
"Jews and mosquitoes are a nuisance that humanity must get rid of some
way or other. I believe the best would be gas!"
- His Imperial and Royal Majesty Wilhelm the Second, by the Grace of
God, German Emperor and King of Prussia, Margrave of Brandenburg,
Burgrave of Nuremberg, Count of Hohenzollern, Duke of Silesia and of the
County of Glatz, Grand Duke of the Lower Rhine and of Posen, Duke of
Saxony, of Angria, of Westphalia, of Pomerania and of Lunenburg, Duke of
Schleswig, of Holstein and of Crossen, Duke of Magdeburg, of Bremen, of
Guelderland and of Jülich, Cleves and Berg, Duke of the Wends and the
Kashubians, of Lauenburg and of Mecklenburg, Landgrave of Hesse and in
Thuringia, Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia, Prince of Orange, of
Rugen, of East Friesland, of Paderborn and of Pyrmont, Prince of
Halberstadt, of Münster, of Minden, of Osnabrück, of Hildesheim, of
Verden, of Kammin, of Fulda, of Nassau and of Moers, Princely Count of
Henneberg, Count of the Mark, of Ravensberg, of Hohenstein, of
Tecklenburg and of Lingen, Count of Mansfeld, of Sigmaringen and of
Veringen, Lord of Frankfurt aka Kaiser Willy
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
$southslope.net"> wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 4:07 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the
>
> deep jungle wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 12:52 am, Apostate<Apost...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> > In point of fact, the poster claims to be a Conservative Jew.
>
> >> > Not that there's anything/wrong/ with that.
> > Everything is wrong with that --mind you, not the Jewish part.
> > Conservatives are opposed to evolution and they refuse to allow
> > smarter ways of life to emerge.[...]
>
> You should have read this before replying:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Judaism>.
This guy argues that he's a Conservative Jew --as opposed to the
Christians-- and he too opposes Universal Healthcare, so he's
consistent with the Conservative Christians.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
Gee, he got a longer title than me!
Edward Dolan
message news:ihvqqo$eb7$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Well, at least now we know why Germany had such a difficult time becoming a
nation.
Jeff Thies
> On 1/28/2011 6:09 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
>
>> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
>> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
>> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
>> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
>
> You're confusing conservative and orthodox Jews.
You are absolutely right.
There is no such thing
> as "ultra-conservative," it's "ultra-orthodox." In any case
> "conservative" doesn't describe "conservative Jews" politically, since
> nearly all are politically moderate, and mostly Democratic. For a while
> there was an increase in Republicanism among Jews, but the tea-party
> nonsense put the kibosh on that.
I believe you are correct on that also. Jews are not dummies, but
some deeply follow their traditions, and I admire that.
Jeff
Jeff Thies
> "Jeff Thies"<jeff_...@att.net> wrote in message
> news:ihuinp$8ig$1...@news.albasani.net...
> [...]
>> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
>> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
>> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
>> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
>
> Nope, it is the same with some Christians just as it is with some Jews.
> Beliefs, actions and reality - all one thing.
I see no correlation between the way Jesus lead his life an the way
conservative Christians do. Hypocrisy is the norm.
>
>> Just my take. I like all my Jewish friends and I think believing in God
>> is crazy.
>
> Well Hells Bells, I don't like anybody no matter their religion, but I don't
> think believing in God is crazy. It is merely traditional in all cultures.
I have no problem with traditions. Ultra Orthodox traditions are very
strong.
But actually believing that there is some all knowing ultra smart
being is crazy. A christian friend of mine was just telling me that God
knew I was going to say what I did, but I still had free will. Believing
such is lunacy, following traditions is not.
> Why not take a few courses in sociology and anthropology to learn what it is
> to be human. Why be an ignorant slob all of your life!
I know more that the average. Even on tests of religion:
http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/
Like most atheists, I scored well, missed only one.
I have nothing against Mormons either. But what they believe is even
crazier.
Jeff
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
Would you admire the Germans if they went around like this...
http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,1991911_4,00.jpg
We are all dummies and some are proud of it such as Ed.
Rod Speed
> SMS wrote
>> Jeff Thies wrote
> You are absolutely right.
I dont, some of the sabbath rules are completely silly.
The dietary rules in spades.
Rod Speed
>>> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't
>>> have anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being
>>> a conservative
>>> Christian where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
>> Nope, it is the same with some Christians just as it is with some
>> Jews. Beliefs, actions and reality - all one thing.
> I see no correlation between the way Jesus lead his life an the way conservative Christians do. Hypocrisy is the norm.
Nope, because conservative christians arent anything like the norm.
>>> Just my take. I like all my Jewish friends and I think believing in God is crazy.
>> Well Hells Bells, I don't like anybody no matter their religion, but I don't think believing in God is crazy. It is
>> merely traditional in all cultures.
> I have no problem with traditions.
I do when they dont make any sense.
> Ultra Orthodox traditions are very strong.
And just plain barking mad most of the time.
> But actually believing that there is some all knowing ultra smart
> being is crazy. A christian friend of mine was just telling me that
> God knew I was going to say what I did, but I still had free will.
> Believing such is lunacy,
Hard to claim most of humanity is mad.
> following traditions is not.
Wrong when the tradition makes no sense at all.
>> Why not take a few courses in sociology and anthropology to learn
>> what it is to be human. Why be an ignorant slob all of your life!
> I know more that the average. Even on tests of religion:
> http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/
> Like most atheists, I scored well, missed only one.
> I have nothing against Mormons either. But what they believe is even crazier.
Nope, just different in detail.
Tºm Shermªn™ °_°
See
<http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/what_not_to_eat/lv11_03.html>
for more on dietary rules.
john MacArthur
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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a lot of people in industrial societies are rejecting their traditions and
turning to buddhism.
you dont have to believe in anything except that there is a higher state of
consciousness (which we all know from those flashes of insight right? ) and
the means to that, is controlling your arbitrary thoughts through
meditation.
they say just try relaxing your mind and see what happens?
too simple isn't it ?
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> following traditions is not.
>>> http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/
> a lot of people in industrial societies are rejecting their traditions
Yes.
> and turning to buddhism.
Nope, fuck all are doing that. MANY more are giving up on any god at all.
> you dont have to believe in anything except that there is a higher state of consciousness
I have seen no evidence that there is.
Its just another crutch for pathetically inadequate 'minds'
> (which we all know from those flashes of insight right? )
Wrong. We 'know' nothing of the sort. Those are just how the mind works.
> and the means to that, is controlling your arbitrary thoughts through meditation.
I dont want to control my arbitrary thoughts, they can be very useful at times.
> they say just try relaxing your mind and see what happens?
I do that all the time. Dont need meditation or buddhism to do that.
> too simple isn't it ?
Mindlessly superficial, actually.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> >> Jeff Thies wrote
> >>> Edward Dolan wrote
Buddhism (and an MP3 player) may come handy to ignore those drivers
who harass you for riding a bike.
The MP3 player is from my own school of wisdom.
Edward Dolan
> On 1/28/2011 2:44 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Jeff Thies"<jeff_...@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:ihuinp$8ig$1...@news.albasani.net...
>> [...]
>>> I know some ultra conservative Jews. Near as I can tell they don't have
>>> anything close to the views of Conservative Christians. Being a
>>> Conservative Jew is a way of life, unlike being a conservative Christian
>>> where it is more about beliefs than it is actions and reality.
>>
>> Nope, it is the same with some Christians just as it is with some Jews.
>> Beliefs, actions and reality - all one thing.
>
> I see no correlation between the way Jesus lead his life an the way
> conservative Christians do. Hypocrisy is the norm.
I said "some" Christians", not all! Why not read the lives of the saints to
get a clue about Christianity.
>>> Just my take. I like all my Jewish friends and I think believing in
>>> God
>>> is crazy.
>>
>> Well Hells Bells, I don't like anybody no matter their religion, but I
>> don't
>> think believing in God is crazy. It is merely traditional in all
>> cultures.
>
> I have no problem with traditions. Ultra Orthodox traditions are very
> strong.
>
> But actually believing that there is some all knowing ultra smart being
> is crazy. A christian friend of mine was just telling me that God knew I
> was going to say what I did, but I still had free will. Believing such is
> lunacy, following traditions is not.
You should study the religious beliefs of primitive peoples. Christianity is
a light year advancement on that. Zoroastrianism has always appealed to me
personally.
>> Why not take a few courses in sociology and anthropology to learn what it
>> is
>> to be human. Why be an ignorant slob all of your life!
>
> I know more that the average. Even on tests of religion:
>
> http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/
>
> Like most atheists, I scored well, missed only one.
>
> I have nothing against Mormons either. But what they believe is even
> crazier.
The Mormons are a cult, not a religion. It is most likely what will prevent
Romney from ever being President.
Edward Dolan
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[...]
> a lot of people in industrial societies are rejecting their traditions and
> turning to buddhism.
>
> you dont have to believe in anything except that there is a higher state
> of consciousness (which we all know from those flashes of insight right? )
> and the means to that, is controlling your arbitrary thoughts through
> meditation.
>
> they say just try relaxing your mind and see what happens?
>
> too simple isn't it ?
Yup, way too simple for the human mind. We love complexity and we create it
wherever we go.
Buddhism is a failed religion by anyone's standards. In fact it is more a
dead philosophy than anything else. It has died out nearly everywhere. Tibet
was the last bastion and China is rapidly stamping it out even there.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> "john MacArthur" <bluestar00...@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:ii1til$57e$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> [...]
>
> > a lot of people in industrial societies are rejecting their traditions and
> > turning to buddhism.
>
> > you dont have to believe in anything except that there is a higher state
> > of consciousness (which we all know from those flashes of insight right? )
> > and the means to that, is controlling your arbitrary thoughts through
> > meditation.
>
> > they say just try relaxing your mind and see what happens?
>
> > too simple isn't it ?
>
> Yup, way too simple for the human mind. We love complexity and we create it
> wherever we go.
>
> Buddhism is a failed religion by anyone's standards. In fact it is more a
> dead philosophy than anything else. It has died out nearly everywhere. Tibet
> was the last bastion and China is rapidly stamping it out even there.
It's a good past time for the yuppies as well as a fairly good
business enterprise. Watch 'Eat, Pray, Love' and see what all the
bullshit is about.
The Dalai Lama still draws a large audience to hear his wisdom,
however little is compared to mine. The jungle is the reality but the
well-to-do don't want to hear about it.
Edward Dolan
[...]
Edward Dolan wrote:
> Buddhism is a failed religion by anyone's standards. In fact it is more a
> dead philosophy than anything else. It has died out nearly everywhere.
> Tibet
> was the last bastion and China is rapidly stamping it out even there.
>> It's a good past time for the yuppies as well as a fairly good
business enterprise. Watch 'Eat, Pray, Love' and see what all the
bullshit is about.
>> The Dalai Lama still draws a large audience to hear his wisdom,
however little is compared to mine. The jungle is the reality but the
well-to-do don't want to hear about it.
Your 'wisdom' is pure shit. Until you can engage me, you will never have any
credibility on these newsgroups. The Dalai Lama is almost as irrelevant as
you.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> [...]
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > Buddhism is a failed religion by anyone's standards. In fact it is more a
> > dead philosophy than anything else. It has died out nearly everywhere.
> > Tibet
> > was the last bastion and China is rapidly stamping it out even there.
> >> It's a good past time for the yuppies as well as a fairly good
>
> business enterprise. Watch 'Eat, Pray, Love' and see what all the
> bullshit is about.
>
> >> The Dalai Lama still draws a large audience to hear his wisdom,
>
> however little is compared to mine. The jungle is the reality but the
> well-to-do don't want to hear about it.
>
> Your 'wisdom' is pure shit. Until you can engage me, you will never have any
> credibility on these newsgroups. The Dalai Lama is almost as irrelevant as
> you.
You are just another librarian.
Have the librarians ever given any personality to the world?