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sam coleridge

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:21:20 AM12/5/09
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In the far east recently I saw tiny barbeques about ten inches square, the
base being made from what i think was some kind of clay and had a stainless
steel rack to sit on the top.

They could easily be placed on a kitchen hob, so that you could have an
indoor barbi.

They were too heavy to bring one home. I'm wondering if anyone has seen
them for sale in the u.k.?

Or if anybody had adapted anything to make a miniature barbeque that one
could use indoors in the kitchen placed on the gas hob?

Rod

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:29:25 AM12/5/09
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One of the reasons for not having indoor barbies is that burning
charcoal can produce carbon monoxide which is somewhat poisonous.

--
Rod

Stewart

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:40:13 AM12/5/09
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If you want to use your cooker fan extractor hood then buy a "Piramid"
(maybe Pyramid) barbeque and place it overthe hob. We have had one for
years and they are superb. Quite expensive but have long guarantee.


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brooklyn1

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Dec 5, 2009, 10:01:31 AM12/5/09
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>could use indoors?
>
>
Oh yes, make it an obligatory celebratory occasion by order of the
Queen that every UKer light their indoor charcoal burner at midnight
of New Years Eve and crawl into bed... get rid of all yoose stench
breathed rotted teeth brit bastards in one fell swoop! <G>
Ahahahahahahaha. . . .

Ophelia

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Dec 5, 2009, 10:16:16 AM12/5/09
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Awwwwwwwww come on now SHELDUMB! You know you would miss me:))


Lou

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Dec 5, 2009, 10:43:43 AM12/5/09
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"sam coleridge" <invali...@mail.invalid> wrote in message
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If by barbeque you mean something that burns charcoal, there's a couple of
things to beware of. First, charcoal fires produce carbon monoxide, which
can be deadly. Second, a charcoal fire consumes oxygen, and in an enclosed
room the oxygen can be depleted below the concentration necessary to sustain
human life. In the US, about 25 people are killed each year from burning
charcoal indoors. See for instance
http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&HPAwebStandard/HPAweb_C/1195733793495 or
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/452.html


garden-variety dick

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Dec 5, 2009, 11:04:51 AM12/5/09
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Most days are OK to use charcoal outside. I do it all the time here
in south western Ontario Canada. Every month of the year. You don't
need to be inside. Except for to eat.

geoff

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Dec 5, 2009, 11:32:20 AM12/5/09
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In message <hfdmol$6db$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, sam coleridge
<invali...@mail.invalid> writes
Have you never noticed the amount of smoke and burning fat generated by
a BBQ ?


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geoff

geoff

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Dec 5, 2009, 11:34:15 AM12/5/09
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In message <hfdus0$6sd$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Lou
<lpo...@hotmail.com> writes

>
>"sam coleridge" <invali...@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>news:hfdmol$6db$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In the far east recently I saw tiny barbeques about ten inches square, the
>> base being made from what i think was some kind of clay and had a
>stainless
>> steel rack to sit on the top.
>>
>> They could easily be placed on a kitchen hob, so that you could have an
>> indoor barbi.
>>
>> They were too heavy to bring one home. I'm wondering if anyone has seen
>> them for sale in the u.k.?
>>
>> Or if anybody had adapted anything to make a miniature barbeque that one
>> could use indoors in the kitchen placed on the gas hob?
>>
>If by barbeque you mean something that burns charcoal, there's a couple of
>things to beware of. First, charcoal fires produce carbon monoxide, which
>can be deadly. Second, a charcoal fire consumes oxygen, and in an enclosed
>room the oxygen can be depleted below the concentration necessary to sustain
>human life. In the US, about 25 people are killed each year from burning
>charcoal indoors.

That's the most positive reason for indoor BBQs I've come across yet

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geoff

Gary Heston

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Dec 5, 2009, 12:27:03 PM12/5/09
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In article <hfdmol$6db$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Sounds similar to a hibachi; to avoid the carbon monoxide issue, there
are electric versions for tabletom use:

http://www.bbq.com/

http://www.grillpower.com/article3.html

http://www.lumaoutdoorentertaining.com/barbecues/hibachi.aspx

Lots more are just a search away...


Gary

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The Medway Handyman

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Dec 5, 2009, 2:01:17 PM12/5/09
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Would that be why we use them outside Geoff?


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Mark Thorson

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Dec 5, 2009, 2:40:58 PM12/5/09
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Gary Heston wrote:
>
> In article <hfdmol$6db$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> sam coleridge <invali...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >In the far east recently I saw tiny barbeques about ten inches square, the
> >base being made from what i think was some kind of clay and had a stainless
> >steel rack to sit on the top.
>
> Sounds similar to a hibachi; to avoid the carbon monoxide issue, there
> are electric versions for tabletom use:

Sounds to me like the little grills used for
Korean bulgogi, though he did say square,
and hibachis are usually square while the
Korean bulgogi grill is usually round.
They are usually used indoors, under a hood.

Tony Sivori

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Dec 5, 2009, 3:10:59 PM12/5/09
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[follow up set to misc.consumers.frugal-living]

Rod wrote:
> One of the reasons for not having indoor barbies is that burning
> charcoal can produce carbon monoxide which is somewhat poisonous.

Consider that lethal exposure is 800 Parts Per Million for two hours,
maximum permissible is 30 PPM, and the recommended level is zero. I'd say
it is more than somewhat poisonous.

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geoff

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Dec 5, 2009, 3:14:59 PM12/5/09
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In message <16ySm.12231$Ym4....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Medway
Handyman <davi...@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> writes
Err yes - did you miss the point ?

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Rod

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Dec 5, 2009, 3:24:39 PM12/5/09
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Tony Sivori wrote:
> [follow up set to misc.consumers.frugal-living]
> Rod wrote:
>> One of the reasons for not having indoor barbies is that burning
>> charcoal can produce carbon monoxide which is somewhat poisonous.
>
> Consider that lethal exposure is 800 Parts Per Million for two hours,
> maximum permissible is 30 PPM, and the recommended level is zero. I'd say
> it is more than somewhat poisonous.
>
OK. So the affinity of carbon monoxide for haemoglobin is around 700
times that of oxygen and instead of forming a loose 'association' it
forms a stable compound, carboxyhaemoglobin.

(Or that is how I remember it.)

Agreed. Horribly poisonous.

--
Rod

ViLco

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:28:58 PM12/5/09
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Ophelia wrote:

>> Oh yes, make it an obligatory celebratory occasion by order of
the
>> Queen that every UKer light their indoor charcoal burner at
midnight
>> of New Years Eve and crawl into bed... get rid of all yoose
stench
>> breathed rotted teeth brit bastards in one fell swoop! <G>
>> Ahahahahahahaha. . . .

> Awwwwwwwww come on now SHELDUMB! You know you would miss me:))

A redident troll is a resient troll, LOL, and Shelly's really good
at that
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qualcosa da bere a portata di mano
Anche tu puoi diventare lesbica se lecchi il tappeto


Grimly Curmudgeon

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:43:31 PM12/5/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember brooklyn1 <grave...@verizon.net>
saying something like:

>>
>Oh yes, make it an obligatory celebratory occasion by order of the
>Queen that every UKer light their indoor charcoal burner at midnight
>of New Years Eve and crawl into bed... get rid of all yoose stench
>breathed rotted teeth brit bastards in one fell swoop! <G>
>Ahahahahahahaha. . . .

Fucking retard.

Ophelia

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:36:31 PM12/5/09
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ViLco wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>>> Oh yes, make it an obligatory celebratory occasion by order of
> the
>>> Queen that every UKer light their indoor charcoal burner at midnight
>>> of New Years Eve and crawl into bed... get rid of all yoose
> stench
>>> breathed rotted teeth brit bastards in one fell swoop! <G>
>>> Ahahahahahahaha. . . .
>
>> Awwwwwwwww come on now SHELDUMB! You know you would miss me:))
>
> A redident troll is a resient troll, LOL, and Shelly's really good
> at that

<g>


The Medway Handyman

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Dec 5, 2009, 7:40:09 PM12/5/09
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No, just wanted confirmation that my 4 burner BBQ which generates large
quantities of smoke and burning fat should be used outside.

:-)

geoff

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:07:43 PM12/5/09
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In message <J3DSm.12382$Ym4....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Medway
Unless you're a septic ...Yes


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Arri London

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:45:23 PM12/5/09
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If you go to a Turkish/Middle Eastern supermarket in London (or
elsewhere), there will be metal contraptions meant for grilling kebabs
over charcoal.

Just make certain to have good ventilation if using coals. No idea if
they will work over a hob though.

Bill

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Dec 5, 2009, 9:56:30 PM12/5/09
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Might want to ask your insurance company, the fire department, and the
hospital emergency room (or morgue) if this is a good idea.

d-i-y means no attention paid to building codes or safety many times...


Omelet

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Dec 6, 2009, 7:24:11 AM12/6/09
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In article <hfdmol$6db$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"sam coleridge" <invali...@mail.invalid> wrote:

Just be careful! Attempts at indoor BBQ tend to produce Carbon Monoxide
gas.

It's a good way to commit suicide.
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Omelet

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Dec 6, 2009, 7:27:40 AM12/6/09
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In article <ksQ6tRMH...@demon.co.uk>, geoff <ra...@kateda.org>
wrote:

> >If by barbeque you mean something that burns charcoal, there's a couple of
> >things to beware of. First, charcoal fires produce carbon monoxide, which
> >can be deadly. Second, a charcoal fire consumes oxygen, and in an enclosed
> >room the oxygen can be depleted below the concentration necessary to sustain
> >human life. In the US, about 25 people are killed each year from burning
> >charcoal indoors.
>
> That's the most positive reason for indoor BBQs I've come across yet
>
> --
> geoff

<http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/>

Omelet

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Dec 6, 2009, 7:32:44 AM12/6/09
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In article <ctidndJNCNV6CofW...@posted.hiwaay2>,
ghe...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:

> >Or if anybody had adapted anything to make a miniature barbeque that one
> >could use indoors in the kitchen placed on the gas hob?
>
> Sounds similar to a hibachi; to avoid the carbon monoxide issue, there
> are electric versions for tabletom use:
>
> http://www.bbq.com/
>
> http://www.grillpower.com/article3.html
>
> http://www.lumaoutdoorentertaining.com/barbecues/hibachi.aspx
>
> Lots more are just a search away...
>
>
> Gary

This works well for me. I don't have this exact one, but I do have
something similar:

<http://about.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=1313194&search
=Hamilton%20Beach%20%2025285&mode=about_bbq&>

Or:

<http://tinyurl.com/ybcsnc9>

I've been using an indoor electric grill regularly now for years. I LOVE
the thing. One of my favorite appliances for cooking meat and some
veggies. Neater and less messy than frying and gives satisfactory
results. Many pics I've taken of food with grill marks comes from one
of these. <g>

terry

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Dec 7, 2009, 1:18:48 AM12/7/09
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On Dec 6, 9:24 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <hfdmol$6d...@news.eternal-september.org>,

>  "sam coleridge" <invalidto...@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In the far east recently I saw tiny barbeques about ten inches square, the
> > base being made from what i think was some kind of clay and had a stainless
> > steel rack to sit on the top.
>
> > They could easily be placed on a kitchen hob, so that you could have an
> > indoor barbi.
>
> > They were too heavy to bring one home.  I'm wondering if anyone has seen
> > them for sale in the u.k.?
>
> > Or if anybody had adapted anything to make a miniature barbeque that one
> > could use indoors in the kitchen placed on the gas hob?
>
> Just be careful! Attempts at indoor BBQ tend to produce Carbon Monoxide
> gas.
>
> It's a good way to commit suicide.
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down."  
> --Steve Rothstein
>
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Some years ago; in order to try and stay warm an elderly couple
operated their bar-b-q inside their fairly well sealed up North
American house during a power failure. It used up all the oxygen and
they were found dead.

Dan Abel

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Dec 7, 2009, 3:55:24 AM12/7/09
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In article
<7ff86190-2f8b-4fb2...@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
terry <tsan...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:

> On Dec 6, 9:24�am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Just be careful! Attempts at indoor BBQ tend to produce Carbon Monoxide
> > gas.
> >
> > It's a good way to commit suicide.

> Some years ago; in order to try and stay warm an elderly couple


> operated their bar-b-q inside their fairly well sealed up North
> American house during a power failure. It used up all the oxygen and
> they were found dead.

Unless somebody lives somewhere really sealed up, like underwater, it's
pretty hard to use up the oxygen. As Om posted above, it's generally
carbon monoxide poisoning.

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Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net

ra...@vt.edu

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Dec 7, 2009, 1:08:05 PM12/7/09
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In misc.consumers.frugal-living sam coleridge <invali...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> In the far east recently I saw tiny barbeques about ten inches square, the
> base being made from what i think was some kind of clay and had a stainless
> steel rack to sit on the top.

> They could easily be placed on a kitchen hob, so that you could have an
> indoor barbi.

> Or if anybody had adapted anything to make a miniature barbeque that one

> could use indoors in the kitchen placed on the gas hob?

Note that the OP *did* *not* mention charcoal. For all you folks
suggesting that carbon monoxide is a concern, you have a point *if*
the contraption uses charcoal, but what I *think* the OP may have
meant is some type of ceramic heat sink material that absorbs heat
from the regular stove top burner and then acts like the volcanic
rock in traditional outdoor gas grills. The heated surface catches
dripping fats and juices which then vaporaize and that flavors the
meat. So, maybe not as dangerous as everyone seems to be assuming.

On the other hand, since the OP has not clarified what he's talking
about, it may have just been a drive-by trolling.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

geoff

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Dec 7, 2009, 4:49:59 PM12/7/09
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In message
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terry <tsan...@nf.sympatico.ca> writes

How many more does that leave ?

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sam coleridge

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Dec 8, 2009, 11:39:43 AM12/8/09
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<ra...@vt.edu> wrote in message news:hfjga5$5i8$1...@solaris.cc.vt.edu...

because the topic might seem unsual or 'off the wall' to you Bill, its still
not very nice to be so readily accused of trolling


Dave Bugg

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Dec 8, 2009, 2:02:07 PM12/8/09
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sam coleridge wrote:

> <ra...@vt.edu> wrote in message news:hfjga5$5i8$1...@solaris.cc.vt.edu...

>> On the other hand, since the OP has not clarified what he's talking
>> about, it may have just been a drive-by trolling.

> because the topic might seem unsual or 'off the wall' to you Bill,


> its still not very nice to be so readily accused of trolling

Sam, you weren't either 'readily' or 'accused' of doing a troll. It was
mentioned as being among a list of possibilities for a post to which you
would not further clarify when concerns about carbon monoxide was raised.

It IS one method of operation for a troll to drop a controversial topic into
usenet and leave it there for the masses to wrestle with.
--
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you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan


sf

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Dec 9, 2009, 10:46:16 AM12/9/09
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This topic was xposted and Bill in a different ng that frankly isn't
very interested in this topic.

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Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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