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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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May 10, 2011, 6:34:13 PM5/10/11
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Lazarus, Mary Magdalene, the thief at the cross, the list is long and
not precisely la-creme-de-la-creme. His metaphors about the Rich being
like camels unable to reach the Kingdom of Heaven, his violent
outburst against the Money Changers all point out that Jesus was a
Marxist or at least a rabble-rouser.

Lumpenproletariat rejoice, Jesus is coming soon to put an end to the
bloodsucking capitalists...

http://mattstone.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341bffb053ef013486098ad4970c-200wi

He will issue Huffy bikes and serve wine to all those winos
prostitutes, beggars, thieves and junkies. Who needs to work when
Jesus provides?


-------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Bill

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May 14, 2011, 11:00:50 AM5/14/11
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Yeah, but there are smart and dumb rabble rousers. Christ was a dumb
one. Pilate didn't really want to have him crucified because it would
cause trouble between the Jews and Christians. So when Pilate asked
Jesus if he was claiming to be god (because Roman law prohibited
anyone from doing so), all he wanted was for Jesus to say "no", and he
would have released him. However, rather than answering Pilate's
question respectfully, the dumb shit told Pilate, essentially, "Well,
what do YOU think?" You just didn't talk to the Prefect that way.
Christ knew it, but did it anyway. FAIL!

Jesus obviously didn't die for our sins. He just failed the Darwin
test. And then when he was being crucified, he clearly recognized that
"god" had forsaken him. Of course, a much more rational conclusion
would have been that there simply is no god.

Tºm Shermªn™ °_°

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May 14, 2011, 11:31:39 AM5/14/11
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See <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loyjm4SOa0>.

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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May 14, 2011, 12:04:39 PM5/14/11
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Let's be irrational for a moment. Jesus was as dumb as a Christian and
said the wrong words. Imagine this dialog with a bunch of rough guys
in Iraq: "Hey, are you a Christian?" And you reply, "If you say so."

I'd say, "Hell no!" ;)

Edward Dolan

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May 14, 2011, 8:49:56 PM5/14/11
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"Bill" <retrog...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bill would never have raised his head and so gone to oblivion where all his
type end up.

By the way, appeals to Darwin is a tricky thing. What often benefits the
individual is highly detrimental to the species. But these kind of
subtleties are way beyond such simple types as Bill.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


Bill

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May 14, 2011, 11:42:09 PM5/14/11
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"What often benefits the individual is highly detrimental to the
species."

But Ed, extinction is the very essence of evolution. If you think this
is tricky, then you haven't accepted the most important principle of
Darwinism.

"But these kind of subtleties are way beyond such simple types as
Bill."

It's not subtle, Ed, and YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand it!
Tricky, indeed!

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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May 15, 2011, 12:07:17 AM5/15/11
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I don't know why I associate Ed with the dinosaurs.

But big change is around the corner whether he sees it or not.

Edward Dolan

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May 15, 2011, 12:57:25 AM5/15/11
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"Bill" <retrog...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:

> "What often benefits the individual is highly detrimental to the
> species."
>
>> But Ed, extinction is the very essence of evolution. If you think this
> is tricky, then you haven't accepted the most important principle of
> Darwinism.

The essence of evolution is the survival of the species, not any given
individuals. It is why selfishness is NOT part of our human nature. We
humans will even sacrifice our own lives for the good of the group. The
social always takes precedence over the individual (something that
libertarians are loath to admit).

> "But these kind of subtleties are way beyond such simple types as
> Bill."
>
>> It's not subtle, Ed, and YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand it!
> Tricky, indeed!

The bottom line is that Jesus was quite correct to do what he did. If he had
done the "smart" thing according to your lights, there would have been no
Christianity. It was the Christian monks who kept the light of civilization
burning bright all through the Dark Ages. And it is precisely that
civilization which makes possible the modern world we are living in today.

Mr. Vandeman is more highly evolved than you because he wants to preserve
the nature that made us the successful species that we are. The only
criminal here is you, who would destroy nature for the sake of some mindless
idiotic recreation.

Edward Dolan

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May 15, 2011, 1:14:13 AM5/15/11
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"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On May 14, 11:42 pm, Bill <retroguybi...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

> It's not subtle, Ed, and YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand it!
> Tricky, indeed!

>> I don't know why I associate Ed with the dinosaurs.

>> But big change is around the corner whether he sees it or not.

The one good quality that TM has is his perennial good humor. No matter what
I say, I can't seem to anger him. Maybe we should all become simpletons like
him in order to get some peace in this world. Hells Bells, it is no fun to
kick his dumb ass at all!

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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May 15, 2011, 10:32:14 AM5/15/11
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On May 15, 12:57 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Bill" <retroguybi...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:3009de96-57ed-4335...@r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "What often benefits the individual is highly detrimental to the
> > species."
>
> >> But Ed, extinction is the very essence of evolution. If you think this
> > is tricky, then you haven't accepted the most important principle of
> > Darwinism.
>
> The essence of evolution is the survival of the species, not any given
> individuals. It is why selfishness is NOT part of our human nature. We
> humans will even sacrifice our own lives for the good of the group. The
> social always takes precedence over the individual (something that
> libertarians are loath to admit).
>
> > "But these kind of subtleties are way beyond such simple types as
> > Bill."
>
> >> It's not subtle, Ed, and YOU'RE the one who doesn't understand it!
> > Tricky, indeed!
>
> The bottom line is that Jesus was quite correct to do what he did. If he had
> done the "smart" thing according to your lights, there would have been no
> Christianity. It was the Christian monks who kept the light of civilization
> burning bright all through the Dark Ages. And it is precisely that
> civilization which makes possible the modern world we are living in today.

Wasn't it the Christians who burned most of the classics, and the
Arabs the ones who saved many of the remaining books?

You are a librarian so you are the man who should have the facts
straight...

(why does it take a monkey to remind you?)

(I QUOTE)

I got an interesting question a while back that took a LOT of
research, but which was also very instructive...the questioner wrote:

Interesting page. I was recently researching Josh McDowell's "Evidence
That Demands A Verdict", and in Chapter 5, he provides evidence of the
Bible's survivability throughout time.

He points out that The Bible has survived longer, and has been copied
so many more times than other works.

Isn't that a bit of a half-truth? I understand that the early church
used to throw away non-Christian literature, or edit it (as in the
Josephus testimony, where a Christian scribe added in the section
about Jesus). The Dark ages were caused, in part, by the burning of
many non-Christian writings on science, literature, engineering, and
Mathematics, because many Christian scribes who copied books for a
living, felt that it was the right thing to do.

The Islamic world, on the other hand, did not suffer the kind of dark
ages that the Christian world did, and they actually preserved many of
the works that Christians destroyed. By the time of the crusades, many
Europeans were rediscovering books that they thought were long since
destroyed.

http://www.christianthinktank.com/qburnbx.html

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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May 15, 2011, 4:34:38 PM5/15/11
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On May 15, 10:59 am, John Smith <bit_buc...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 5/15/2011 7:51 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > ...
> > "Did the Christians burn much of the classic books?"
>
> > What percentage, 10%... 90%? All the works of Epicurus are gone.
> > Someone had the happy idea to save Aesop fables, which in itself has
> > more wisdom than the Bible. Is that why they burned the books? It
> > sounds as if the Christians are opposed to knowledge and wisdom... And
> > that tradition is still alive today!
> > ...
>
> I think ignorance is not the property of any single or specific group(s.)
>
> http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html
>
> Hitler was famous for his book burning ... I certainly would not put him
> in the "Christian Category."
>
> Regards,
> JS

To me book burners are book burners, even if they demanded the burning
the Bible.

I'd be worried though if everyone walked around with a copy of Mein
Campf.

Edward Dolan

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"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On May 15, 12:57 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]

> The bottom line is that Jesus was quite correct to do what he did. If he
> had
> done the "smart" thing according to your lights, there would have been no
> Christianity. It was the Christian monks who kept the light of
> civilization
> burning bright all through the Dark Ages. And it is precisely that
> civilization which makes possible the modern world we are living in today.
[...]

>> I understand that the early church
used to throw away non-Christian literature, or edit it (as in the
Josephus testimony, where a Christian scribe added in the section
about Jesus). The Dark ages were caused, in part, by the burning of
many non-Christian writings on science, literature, engineering, and
Mathematics, because many Christian scribes who copied books for a
living, felt that it was the right thing to do.

The Dark Ages came about due to the Fall of the Roman Empire and various
barbarian tribes pouring into Europe who did not have a clue about
civilization. It was Christianity (mainly Protestantism) which crated the
conditions for the rise of science as a way of knowing things. No other
culture ever did that. If you had had a liberal arts education at the
college level, you would know this. You are just as ignorant as Tom Sherman
about anything that matters.

>> The Islamic world, on the other hand, did not suffer the kind of dark
ages that the Christian world did, and they actually preserved many of
the works that Christians destroyed. By the time of the crusades, many
Europeans were rediscovering books that they thought were long since
destroyed.

The Islamic world never got out of the Dark Ages. Hells Bells, they are
still living in the Dark Ages. Only the Christian West alleviates somewhat
their Medieval mind set.

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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May 16, 2011, 8:52:15 AM5/16/11
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On May 16, 1:20 am, Earle Jones <earle.jo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <910f79ae-7e5b-48b8-ac53-1e4ae4ced...@g12g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> *
> "Kamph"

Christians can listen to it here...

http://mein-kampf-audio.com/

Is there a relationship with Chow Mein?

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