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Evelyn Leeper

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Dec 12, 2008, 3:59:26 PM12/12/08
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The year 2009 is a non-leap-year starting on a Thursday. The most
recent identical year was 1998 if you want to recycle an old calendar.
If not, you can, as you can any year, use May of the previous year for
January. Then about mid- to late January you can get a new calendar at
a half or a quarter of what they cost now.

(Frankly, we bought quite a few calendars we really like--mathematics,
movies, etc.--and now re-use them as the appropriate years come up. The
one problem, for us anyway, is that the Jewish holidays are completely
wrong on them.)

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
Be braver. You cannot cross a chasm in two small jumps.

leno...@yahoo.com

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Dec 12, 2008, 4:44:15 PM12/12/08
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On Dec 12, 3:59 pm, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> The year 2009 is a non-leap-year starting on a Thursday. The most
> recent identical year was 1998 if you want to recycle an old calendar.
> If not, you can, as you can any year, use May of the previous year for
> January.

Or to keep it really simple, check only what day March 1st is. Then on
leap years, use two calendars - one for Jan-Feb and one for March-Dec.

I keep a list of which years are near-identical in that respect so I
can pick out the right calendar faster from my collection. In theory,
one only needs 14 calendars so as to cover all possible combinations.
But since I want to hang more than one calendar in the house, I'd just
as soon do it differently. Besides, the earliest you're going to see
the same March pattern repeated is five years, anyway - and usually,
it's longer.

And, of course, don't use the more attractive calendars for scribbling
appointments on! (I use scrap-paper calendars for that - and reuse the
nicer ones.)

Lenona.

hchi...@hotmail.com

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Dec 12, 2008, 9:12:44 PM12/12/08
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Dollar store has some decent calendars for $1. Can't even print out
my own that cheap.

Jamie

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Dec 12, 2008, 9:24:32 PM12/12/08
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On Dec 12, 6:12 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:

That's where i ended up getting my calendar for 2009. I used to work
there. Can't beat some of the stuff you get there.

Jamie

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Dec 12, 2008, 9:27:57 PM12/12/08
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Have one from 1987? That year was the same as 2009 and 1998. I wish I
still had that Miss Piggy calendar from 1981. The dates that were also
identical to those of the upcoming year.

leno...@yahoo.com

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Dec 13, 2008, 12:13:23 AM12/13/08
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On Dec 12, 9:12 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:44:15 -0800 (PST), lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:

> >And, of course, don't use the more attractive calendars for scribbling
> >appointments on! (I use scrap-paper calendars for that - and reuse the
> >nicer ones.)
>
> >Lenona.
>
> Dollar store has some decent calendars for $1. Can't even print out
> my own that cheap.

Maybe not, but I don't use a printer anyway - I just use a pen and a
ruler. I only need to do four months at a time anyway - 2 months per
side of paper.

Lenona.

BillGill

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Dec 13, 2008, 9:22:24 AM12/13/08
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Evelyn Leeper wrote:
> The year 2009 is a non-leap-year starting on a Thursday. The most
> recent identical year was 1998 if you want to recycle an old calendar.
> If not, you can, as you can any year, use May of the previous year for
> January. Then about mid- to late January you can get a new calendar at
> a half or a quarter of what they cost now.
>
> (Frankly, we bought quite a few calendars we really like--mathematics,
> movies, etc.--and now re-use them as the appropriate years come up. The
> one problem, for us anyway, is that the Jewish holidays are completely
> wrong on them.)
>
I don't go for all out savings, but I wait till after Christmas to buy
calendars. They always go to half price then.

Bill

Macuser

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Dec 13, 2008, 9:22:38 AM12/13/08
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I get at least 4 calendars every year from charities that want a donation.
Doesn't everybody? They from groups like the Wildlife Foundation and
they're beautiful. You can make a donation to a likeminded charity and
multiple calendars will start pouring in.

--
http://cashcuddler.com

"Thrift is sexy."

The Real Bev

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Dec 13, 2008, 1:50:45 PM12/13/08
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Macuser wrote:
> I get at least 4 calendars every year from charities that want a donation.
> Doesn't everybody? They from groups like the Wildlife Foundation and
> they're beautiful. You can make a donation to a likeminded charity and
> multiple calendars will start pouring in.

Along with untold thousands of begging letters from the charities the
first one sold your name to. When the "forward" on my mom's mail
expired, the post office kindly told all the charities the address to
which her mail had been forwarded, so now I receive all the begging
letters for her at MY address.

The only good part is that I get at least one pre-stamped return
envelope each month, which stamps I cut off and glue to the few pieces
of mail I'm actually forced to send. I think I have a lifetime supply
of postage already.

My mom, who made her contributions once a year at Xmas, was really
pissed that her charities wasted her money on sending her more begging
letters. Accordingly, I'm perfectly happy to let them waste OTHER
people's money on continuing to send her begging letters.

Screw 'em. IF I felt like doing something about it I'd report each and
every on as having sent us obscene material. That ought to make life
interesting for Whatshisname's Boys' Ranch...

--
Cheers, Bev
==============================
All bleeding eventually stops.

SoCalMike

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Dec 13, 2008, 2:36:54 PM12/13/08
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Evelyn Leeper wrote:
> The year 2009 is a non-leap-year starting on a Thursday. The most
> recent identical year was 1998 if you want to recycle an old calendar.
> If not, you can, as you can any year, use May of the previous year for
> January. Then about mid- to late January you can get a new calendar at
> a half or a quarter of what they cost now.

i just buy one at the 99 cent store. works great for me!

Evelyn Leeper

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Dec 13, 2008, 5:24:21 PM12/13/08
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We actually have the 1981 Miss Piggy (proof, I suppose, that I save
everything forever :-) ), but we're probably going to go with the 1987
dinosaurs or the 1998 Civil War one.

Evelyn Leeper

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Dec 13, 2008, 5:24:23 PM12/13/08
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The Real Bev wrote:
>
>
> Macuser wrote:
>> I get at least 4 calendars every year from charities that want a
>> donation. Doesn't everybody? They from groups like the Wildlife
>> Foundation and they're beautiful. You can make a donation to a
>> likeminded charity and multiple calendars will start pouring in.
>
> Along with untold thousands of begging letters from the charities the
> first one sold your name to. When the "forward" on my mom's mail
> expired, the post office kindly told all the charities the address to
> which her mail had been forwarded, so now I receive all the begging
> letters for her at MY address.
>
> The only good part is that I get at least one pre-stamped return
> envelope each month, which stamps I cut off and glue to the few pieces
> of mail I'm actually forced to send. I think I have a lifetime supply
> of postage already.

Why not use the envelope by pasting a new label over the address? (Make
sure to black/white-out any bar codes on the front as well.)

The Real Bev

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Dec 13, 2008, 5:55:13 PM12/13/08
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Easier to clip off the stamp. Glue-sticks work just fine. Envelopes
are dirt cheap.

Macuser

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Dec 13, 2008, 6:45:09 PM12/13/08
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Just look at the date on your computer. Who needs paper?

Dave Garland

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Dec 13, 2008, 9:39:16 PM12/13/08
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I just pick up a few at the hardware store, another few at the liquor
store, the clothing store, the Chinese grocery. Plus there's the one
I get in the mail from the college I didn't graduate from but that
dreams that I'll leave them a lot of money when I die. Even in these
hard times, there are plenty of places giving them away.

And there's Sunbird (free) for my computer, so I get a calendar when I
boot up.

I like the idea of saving them, but then I wouldn't find the right one
until too late, and would have to wait another 11 years to use it.
Maybe that works for somebody who's more organized than me.

Dave

Jamie

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Dec 14, 2008, 5:09:01 PM12/14/08
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> I like the idea of saving them, but then I wouldn't find the right one
> until too late, and would have to wait another 11 years to use it.
> Maybe that works for somebody who's more organized than me.

Actually, 6 or 11 years for common years (those that aren't leap
years) As someone pointed out, the most recent identical-date year was
1998, 11 years before 2009. 1987 was 11 years before 198, but 1981
was six years before 1987. That's as far back as I know on those
dates. If you have a calendar from 2005, you can use it again in
2011, since the dates will be the same for those two years. The last
identical-date year prior to 2005 was 1994 and prior to that, 1983 and
1977.

tween...@mypacks.net

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Dec 14, 2008, 7:31:10 PM12/14/08
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On Dec 12, 3:59 pm, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:

You must not be on the charity sucker lists. I must have 6 or 7
calendars already. No way could I use an old one - many notes written
thereon.

tween...@mypacks.net

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Dec 14, 2008, 7:35:30 PM12/14/08
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On Dec 13, 9:39 pm, Dave Garland <dave.garl...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
> SoCalMike wrote:
> > Evelyn Leeper wrote:

> I just pick up a few at the hardware store, another few at the liquor
> store, the clothing store, the Chinese grocery.

How many do you need? No one gives em free around here - hasn't the
downturn hit your area yet?

Dave Garland

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Dec 14, 2008, 8:55:40 PM12/14/08
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I end up with more than I need. This year so far I've got 1 from the
college (I haven't looked to see if they got Thanksgiving on the right
day next year, they were a week off this year), a Norman Rockwell from
my insurance agent, a couple that I picked up at Ace Hardware (an Ace
promo item, I'd bet most Ace Hardwares had them), and a spiral bound
fold-up desk calendar from the Chinese grocery (last year they had
very nice large wall calendars, not this year alas). And I'll
probably get a CD-case style desk calendar from an artist friend for
Christmas (she sells them). There will be a few more should I need
them, I'm sure. I haven't stopped by the work clothes store or the
liquor store, both usually have calendars, and the Red Cross will
probably give me one when I donate blood.

I'd imagine there's a fair amount of lead time on printed goods like
that, and they were ordered before the market collapsed.

Dave

Macuser

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Dec 15, 2008, 1:43:14 PM12/15/08
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The local Chinese takeout offered me a free calendar, but it was the rollup
kind with a picture of a fat Buddah. I politely declined. .99 cent stores
often sell calendars and organizers. Just don't be too fussy about the
pictures you want to see.

Seerialmom

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Dec 15, 2008, 3:19:56 PM12/15/08
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You could also "make" a calendar with those slots to slide the dates
into and never have to buy another calendar again?

http://www.craftefamily.com/craft/perpetual_calendar.asp

Rick V

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Dec 21, 2008, 10:44:22 PM12/21/08
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The Real Bev wrote...


>Along with untold thousands of begging letters
> from the charities the first one sold your name
> to. When the "forward" on my mom's mail
> expired, the post office kindly told all the
> charities the address to which her mail had
> been forwarded, so now I receive all the
> begging letters for her at MY address.

When the forward on ALL your mom's mail expired, your address was
included on ALL of the return mail and not just the mail from charities.

If you did not want ALL of your mom's mail, you need not submit a change
of address but you choose to do so.

You could have personally contacted the senders whose mail you did want
forwarded but it is much easier to criticize than to do the actual work.

The Real Bev

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Dec 21, 2008, 11:55:49 PM12/21/08
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Rick V wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote...
>
>> Along with untold thousands of begging letters
>> from the charities the first one sold your name
>> to. When the "forward" on my mom's mail
>> expired, the post office kindly told all the
>> charities the address to which her mail had
>> been forwarded, so now I receive all the
>> begging letters for her at MY address.
>
> When the forward on ALL your mom's mail expired, your address was
> included on ALL of the return mail and not just the mail from charities.
>
> If you did not want ALL of your mom's mail, you need not submit a change
> of address but you choose to do so.

You misunderstand.

Forwarded was fine. Letters were sent to her at her address and the
post office applied 'forward to' yellow stickers with MY address. But
after the forwarding expired the letters started coming directly to her
name at my address. Neither of us ever gave anybody that combination,
so it must have been the post office. Makes sense that they'd do it --
it keeps the postage flowing.

> You could have personally contacted the senders whose mail you did want
> forwarded but it is much easier to criticize than to do the actual work.

I wrote DECEASED on the ones that appeared to be first class so that
they would be returned to the sender who ought to take the next step.
Apparently it's cheaper to just keep sending the letters than fix the
mailing list, although they had to make some changes when the post
office gave (or sold) them the new address.

That's as much trouble as I'm willing to go to. If they want to spend
other people's money sending me crap, that's their problem. Theory has
it that bulk mail is GOOD because it supports first class mail, so I
guess I'm doing my bit for the good of society. I open the one that I
know contains a stamped envelope and toss the rest into the recycle bin.

You're right, it's easier to criticize than actually fix the problem.
BUT you forget that it's THEIR problem, not mine.

--
Cheers, Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The fact that windows is one of the most popular ways to
operate a computer means that evolution has made a general
fuckup and our race is doomed." -- Anon.

val189

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Dec 22, 2008, 9:25:52 AM12/22/08
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On Dec 15, 3:19 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You could also "make" a calendar with those slots to slide the dates
> into and never have to buy another calendar again?
>
> http://www.craftefamily.com/craft/perpetual_calendar.asp

Those are a pain. When do you make the change? At midnight on the
last day?
Also useless for a glance forward or prior to the current month. I've
never know anyone who kept them current.

Rick V

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Dec 22, 2008, 12:27:28 PM12/22/08
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The Real Bev wrote

>You misunderstand.

No, I understood exactly what you wrote and implied.

>Forwarded was fine. Letters were sent to her
> at her address and the post office applied
> 'forward to' yellow stickers with MY address.

Which is what you authorized them to do.

>But after the forwarding expired the letters
> started coming directly to her name at my
> address.

The charities, along with all other senders received the new addrees
when you submitted the change of address. The post office did not
forward the mail on their own. You instructed them to do that.


>Neither of us ever gave anybody that
> combination, so it must have been the post
> office.

Yes, you did.

When you submitted the forwarding change of address, you authorized all
mai from the previous address to be sent to your house.

Be it forwarded from the previous address or addressed directly to the
new address. The senders received the forwarding address after 12 months
or if they requested (same as you did when submitting the change of
address form) the mail be returned to them if undeliverable at the
previous address.


>Makes sense that they'd do it -- it keeps the
> postage flowing.

Yes, it is a business but they did not give your address out. You
authorized that.


>I wrote DECEASED on the ones that
> appeared to be first class so that they would
> be returned to the sender who ought to take
> the next step.

One action that you could have taken.
Obviously, the senders ignored your request unlike the post office which
followed your request.


>Apparently it's cheaper to just keep sending
> the letters than fix the mailing list, although
> they had to make some changes when the
> post office gave (or sold) them the new
> address.

Again, you keep blaming the post office for your instructions telling
them to do exactly what they did and for free.

You write that the post office sold the new address which is wrong but
the mail that was sent to your mom's address with postage on it was then
handled and forwarded to your address, per your request, with no
additional postage paid by either the sender or you who
requested the mail be delivered to your address.


>That's as much trouble as I'm willing to go to.

Obviously.


> If they want to spend other people's money
> sending me crap, that's their problem.

The senders "wasting" donated money on more mailings is more than their
problem.


>Theory has it that bulk mail is GOOD because
> it supports first class mail, so I guess I'm
> doing my bit for the good of society.

(pat on the back and applause)


>I open the one that I know contains a stamped
> envelope and toss the rest into the recycle
> bin.

So you are benefitting by getting free stamps and still complaining.

>You're right, it's easier to criticize than actually
> fix the problem. BUT you forget that it's
> THEIR problem, not mine.

See above sentence.

'nam vet.

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Dec 22, 2008, 2:18:48 PM12/22/08
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In article
<fc6408c3-f46a-4e67...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
val189 <gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Dec 15, 3:19 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You could also "make" a calendar with those slots to slide the dates
> > into and never have to buy another calendar again?
> >

> > http://www.craftefamily.com/craft/perpetual calendar.asp


>
> Those are a pain. When do you make the change? At midnight on the
> last day?
> Also useless for a glance forward or prior to the current month. I've
> never know anyone who kept them current.

for me , calendars must be up to date on things like the phases of the
moon and holidaze.
I glue hardware store freebees over the more "artful" old calendars.
works for me.
Happy New Year.
--
When the Power of Love,replaces the Love of Power.
that's Evolution.

P T

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Dec 23, 2008, 1:32:30 AM12/23/08
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Apparently many of you feel it is adequate to use a calendar that is 7
or 12 or ? years old and simply ignore the year printed on the calendar.

I carry it one step further. I use whatever calendar is handy. Every
month I open it to whatever month agrees with the days and dates of the
current month, and I ignore the month and the year printed on the
calendar. Sometimes I am off by a day at the end of the month, the 30
versus 31 problem, but that is seldom a big issue.

My lifestyle is simple enough that I seldom need to consult a calendar
to plan something beyond next week. If you are constantly making
appointments weeks in advance, I suppose my system might be inadequate
for you.

leno...@yahoo.com

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Jan 26, 2009, 1:24:31 PM1/26/09
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On Dec 12 2008, 4:44 pm, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Or to keep it really simple, check only what day March 1st is. Then on

> leap years, use two calendars- one for Jan-Feb and one for March-Dec.
>
> I keep a list of which years are identical in that respect so I


> can pick out the right calendar faster from my collection. In theory,
> one only needs 14 calendars so as to cover all possible combinations.
> But since I want to hang more than one calendar in the house, I'd just
> as soon do it differently. Besides, the earliest you're going to see
> the same March pattern repeated is five years, anyway - and usually,
> it's longer.
>

> And, of course, don't use the more attractivecalendarsfor scribbling
> appointments on! (I use scrap-papercalendarsfor that - and reuse the
> nicer ones.)


I wanted to add that one very good reason not to collect leap-year
calendars - unless they're free AND designed to your liking, whether
with exotic flowers or motorcycles - is that, when you do the math,
you'll find that you only get to reuse a leap-year calendar in its
entirety once every 28 years!

Right now I have only one calendar hung in the house - from 1987. I
like to have two decorative calendars hanging, but the only other one
I have that "works" is my Gustav Klimt 1992 calendar, which I can't
start using until March. So that's annoying.

Lenona.

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