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Mel Knight

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Jan 7, 2011, 2:00:54 AM1/7/11
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Where online would you get open-source cola ingredients for a good price?

I built a home carbonation system out of a C02 tank, a regulator, and
some hoses & quick connects along with Pep Boys brass tire valves
inserted into bottle caps (with the tire-valve stem removed).

Now I want to make Open Cola as per the recipe and instructions here:
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-OpenCola

Question is, where do I get the ingredients?

I tried Safeway and Nob Hill but neither had them.

Where online would you get the following ingredients for a good price?

Cola Flavoring
* 3.50 mL orange oil
* 1.00 mL lemon oil
* 1.00 mL nutmeg oil
* 1.25 ml cassia (cinnamon) oil
* 0.25 mL coriander oil
* 0.25 mL neroli oil (similar to petitgrain, bergamot, or bitter
orange oil)
* 2.75 mL lime oil
* 0.25 mL lavender oil
* 10.0 g food-grade, NOT ART-GRADE gum arabic (thickener)
* 3.00 mL water

Cola Concentrate
* 5 mL flavoring
* 17.5 mL 75% citric acid or phosphoric acid
* 2.00 L water
* 2.00 kg granulated white sugar
* 2.5 mL caffeine (2.5 ml is based on 0.5 tsp of a caffeine pill
advertised as 100% caffeine)
* 30.0 mL caramel color

Cola Flavoring
Mix the oils together.
Add gum arabic and mix completely.
Add water and mix well. For this step, use a hand mixer or blender
to thoroughly mix together.
The flavoring can be made in advance and stored for use later.
Place in a sealed glass jar and place in the refrigerator or keep
at room temperature.
When stored, the oils and water will separate. Just mix again
before use.
When used, the gum arabic will keep things together.

Cola Concentrate
Mix 5 mL of flavoring with the phosphoric or citric acid.
Mix the water and sugar and, while mixing, add caffeine if desired.
* Make sure that the caffeine is completely dissolved before moving
on to the next step.
Pour the acid and flavoring mixture slowly into the water/sugar
mixture
(adding acid to water reduces the risk of acid splashes compared to
the other way around)
Add caramel color and mix completely.

Cola Soda
Mix one part of concentrate with five parts water.
Mix soda water directly with the concentrate

Cola Warnings
* Caffeine can be toxic in high doses. Keep the concentration below
100mg/cup.
* Many of the oils needed for flavoring can irritate skin.
They can also dissolve the plastic lining of a refrigerator; store
in a glass container.
* Gum arabic is available in two forms, art grade, and food grade.
Get food grade.
* Phosphoric acid will burn if skin and eyes; flush with water if
spilled.
* Lavender oil can cause many dangerous side effects, so you may want
to leave this out.

Red Green

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Jan 7, 2011, 9:55:49 AM1/7/11
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Mel Knight <Mel...@aol.com> wrote in
news:ig6dn4$e9p$1...@speranza.aioe.org:

> Where online would you get open-source cola ingredients for a good
> price?
>
> I built a home carbonation system out of a C02 tank, a regulator, and
> some hoses & quick connects along with Pep Boys brass tire valves
> inserted into bottle caps (with the tire-valve stem removed).
>
> Now I want to make Open Cola as per the recipe and instructions here:
> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-OpenCola
>
> Question is, where do I get the ingredients?
>
> I tried Safeway and Nob Hill but neither had them.

Have you tried Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware,
electrical/plumbing/lumber supply house, etc? Why not? Oh, because it has
nothing to do with your topic. Silly me.

Mel Knight

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Jan 7, 2011, 10:02:17 AM1/7/11
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:55:49 +0000, Red Green wrote:
> Have you tried Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware,
> electrical/plumbing/lumber supply house, etc?

I did find some sources for materials for the making of soda at home
using a home carbonation system that I learned how to build from this
newsgroup. It's a natural extension to take that system and make
something with it.

There isn't a newsgroup just for home-carbonated soda - is there?

When I searched, the topic came up relatively frequently here:
- alt.home.repair -> home carbonation expertise
- misc.consumers.frugal-living -> freeware soda afficianados
- rec.food.cooking -> recipe experts

Here's the text, so far, for all to benefit from.
This 7X forumula makes about 6 liters of concentrate (syrup) and about

~12.5 mL of Cola Flavoring (aka Cola 7X formula)


* 3.50 mL orange oil
* 1.00 mL lemon oil
* 1.00 mL nutmeg oil
* 1.25 ml cassia (cinnamon) oil
* 0.25 mL coriander oil

* 0.25 mL neroli oil (expensive oil similar to petitgrain, bergamot,

or bitter orange oil)
* 2.75 mL lime oil
* 0.25 mL lavender oil

* 10.0 g food-grade, NOT ART-GRADE gum arabic (thickener) (~10g/$1)
* 3.00 mL water


Mix the oils together.
Add gum arabic and mix completely

Add water and mix well. For this step, use a hand mixer or blender
to thoroughly mix together

The flavoring can be made in advance and stored for use later

Place in a sealed glass jar and place in the refrigerator or keep
at room temperature

When stored, the oils and water will separate. Just mix again
before use

When used, the gum arabic will keep things together

~2L of Cola Concentrate (aka Cola Syrup)
* 5 mL flavoring (some say that's 2 tsp of 7X formula)
* 17.5 mL 75% citric acid or phosphoric acid (some say 3.5 tsp)
* 2.00 L water (some say 2.28 L)
* 2.00 kg granulated white sugar (some say 2.36 kg)


* 2.5 mL caffeine (2.5 ml is based on 0.5 tsp of a caffeine pill
advertised as 100% caffeine)
* 30.0 mL caramel color

In a one-gallon container ...
Add the water
Add the sugar
Add caffeine (optional)

* Make sure that the caffeine is completely dissolved before moving
on to the next step

* Strain the syrup through a 4-ply of cheesecloth in case the
caffeine hasn't dissolved
Pour in the 75% phosphoric or citric acid to the solution (never
the other way around)


Mix 5 mL of flavoring

Pour the acid and flavoring mixture slowly into the water/sugar
mixture

Add caramel color and mix completely

Pour into a 2L bottle for storage

~12L Cola Soda:
Mix one part of concentrate (syrup) with five parts of carbonated
water.

Cola Warnings
* Caffeine can be toxic in low doses (10g). Keep the concentration
below 100mg/cup.
* Caffeine is toxic both by inhalation & injestion; do not create
Super Jolt!
* Many of the oils needed for flavoring can irritate skin; wear
gloves and wash.


They can also dissolve the plastic lining of a refrigerator; store
in a glass container.
* Gum arabic is available in two forms, art grade, and food grade.

Get food grade. Art grade is toxic!


* Phosphoric acid will burn if skin and eyes; flush with water if
spilled.
* Lavender oil can cause many dangerous side effects, so you may want
to leave this out.

Procurement:
a) Try finding phosphoric acid at a compounding pharmacy in your area.
b) Health-food stores for the 100% pure, food-grade undiluted oils.
* CK Solutions, Ft. Wayne, IN 46825
* Aura Cacia Oils, Weaverville, CA 96093
* Aromaforce Essential Oils
* Frontier Natural Flavors, www.frontiercoop.com
* Karooch, Peterborough, ONT K9J 7Y8
c) Caffeine as a pill that you grind up www.mvpnutrition.com
d) Caramel color at a bakery supply store

Neroli is a very expensive item, be prepared (US$48.52 for 5.00 ml).
All others were a more reasonable price (US$2.00 to about 9.30 for the
volumes needed).

REFERENCES:
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-OpenCola
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/
OpenCola_soft_drink_recipe.pdf
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/c0165.htm
http://www.thecaffeinepage.com
For God, Country, & Coca-Cola, by Mark Pendergrast, Basic Books, 1993,
2000, ISBN 0-465-05468-4

Thomas

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Jan 7, 2011, 11:24:26 AM1/7/11
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It is going to cost more to make it than to buy it.

Purchase boxes of syrup from a restaurant supply center.

mkir...@rochester.rr.com

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Jan 7, 2011, 11:35:43 AM1/7/11
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On Jan 7, 2:00 am, Mel Knight <Melb...@aol.com> wrote:
> Where online would you get open-source cola ingredients for a good price?

You're not going to start going on and on about "cola kick" are you?

My God, that was one of the most annoying and inane conversations I've
seen on this group.

Hey, here's an idea... Why don't you look up the "cola kick" guy and
ask him? IIRC he was playing with recipes.

I understand. Buying the syrup would be easier, but sometimes it's fun
to buy the raw materials and make it yourself. I can buy a yard cart,
but it's more fun to get a pile of steel and build my own.

Mrs Irish Mike

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Jan 7, 2011, 2:15:35 PM1/7/11
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On Jan 6, 11:00 pm, Mel Knight <Melb...@aol.com> wrote:
> Where online would you get open-source cola ingredients for a good price?
>

How is making home-made cola frugal? America is going through an
obiesity problem, in a few years one in three Americans could have
diabetes, sugary water rots teeth, phosphoric acid has been linked to
bone loss, television is awash in ads for remedies for digestive
problems that remind me of how cola can digest a steel nail, on and
on.

Please post any clues on how to kick your soft drink addiction.

Molly Brown

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Jan 7, 2011, 7:44:55 PM1/7/11
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On Jan 6, 11:00 pm, Mel Knight <Melb...@aol.com> wrote:

Did you check to make sure your `CO2 isn’t contaminated with hydrogen
sulfide?

ransley

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Jan 7, 2011, 8:35:47 PM1/7/11
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More Troll BS, and WTF does this have to do with home repair,
absolutely nuthin...

tmclone

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Jan 8, 2011, 11:14:40 AM1/8/11
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Not only is phosphoric acid VERY bad for bones and teeth, it's what
renders
"soda" undrinkable, at least in my opinion. The first time someone
gave me a
coke, back in the early 60s, I spat it out because it burned my
tongue.
Don't think I've had a carbonated beverage since then. I think cold,
FLAT,
diet coke is drinkable, in a pinch. Even sparkling wines "burn" my
tongue.
YUCK! Weird, since I adore the spiciest food...

David Harmon

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Jan 8, 2011, 11:57:53 AM1/8/11
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:14:40 -0800 (PST) in rec.food.cooking, tmclone
<tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote,

>Not only is phosphoric acid VERY bad for bones and teeth, it's what
>renders
>"soda" undrinkable, at least in my opinion. The first time someone
>gave me a
>coke, back in the early 60s, I spat it out because it burned my
>tongue.
>Don't think I've had a carbonated beverage since then. I think cold,
>FLAT,
>diet coke is drinkable, in a pinch. Even sparkling wines "burn" my
>tongue.

You are blaming on phosphoric acid an effect that, by your own
description, is caused by a different thing. There is no phosphoric
acid in most sodas other than cola. There is no phosphoric acid in
sparkling wine. There is 100% as much phosphoric acid in a FLAT coke as
there was when it was fresh.

You are blaming phosphoric acid, when what you don't like is the
carbonation.




Hiccum Blurpaedius

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Jan 8, 2011, 5:29:39 PM1/8/11
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civil war has everything to do with home repair

Mel Knight

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Jan 8, 2011, 10:03:39 PM1/8/11
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 08:57:53 -0800, David Harmon wrote:
> You are blaming phosphoric acid, when what you don't like is the
> carbonation.

aka carbonic acid, albeit very weak.

h

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Jan 9, 2011, 4:08:51 PM1/9/11
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"David Harmon" <sou...@netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3N6dnY5Fnq6PBbXQ...@earthlink.com...
Of course it's the carbonation I don't like, but the phosphoric acid is what
destroys bones and teeth. I just phrased it wrong. Like I said, I haven't
had a CARBONATED beverage since. And I will not consume anything with
phosphoric acid, carbonated or not.


Tony Sivori

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Jan 15, 2011, 11:23:17 AM1/15/11
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Mel Knight wrote:

> When used, the gum arabic will keep things together.

[cross-post trimmed]

No it won't.

Gums in liquids and foods are strictly to provide body, a sensation of
thickness and buttery slickness on the palate.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

spamtrap1888

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Jan 15, 2011, 11:59:59 AM1/15/11
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On Jan 15, 8:23 am, Tony Sivori <TonySiv...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Tony Sivori
> Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

Too bad -- I was going to post the ingredient list for the Elixir of
Eternal Youth. But Tony would never see it.

Can anyone help me filter out aioe.org posters? In general, they are
generally pompous dipwads, not worth the trouble of replying to.

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