Re: University Medical Center Tucson Advertising
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote:
> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
Isn't that redundant?
Rod Speed
> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote
>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
> Isn't that redundant?
Nope, some information advertising isnt spam.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote
>>>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
>>> Isn't that redundant?
>> Nope, some information advertising isnt spam.
> Name three
My town advertises when there is free vaccination for kids.
My town advertises when its close to the last day to pay your rates without incurring any penalty.
My town advertises the current water restrictions.
My state govt advertises when there are double demerits for important driving offences,
normally during the major public holidays like Xmas and Eastern etc, with the first and
last days of the double demerits. Those vary from year to year depending on when
the public holiday falls with respect to the weekend etc.
ElliotS
@news.albasani.net:
> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote in
> news:il4isp$nfg$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials here by Tucson
>> University of Arizona President Shelton extolling what
>> a great Hospital their University Medical Center is and
>> how great their doctors are.
>>
>> I guess one sign of how great they are is my emailing about 5
>> surgeons/professors at the General Surgery Dept. of University
Medical
>> Center in Tucson, not a ONE answered. They paste their email
addresses
>> on their web site disingenuously and when someone
>> emails them they ignore the emails. I assume a surgeon
>> is smart enough to be able to tell the difference between spam
>> and legitimate email when the subject is quite clear and obviously
>> not spam.
>>
>> In one case, I did get an answer from a SECRETARY. It seems
>> the Chief of Surgery's email address is really this
>> SECRETARY, rather dishonest imo to have an email address in
>> your name when a non-physician lay person is really behind
>> the email. She refused directly to give him my sent to HIS
>> name until it had passed her LAY opinion/worthiness test.
>> I guess they must get ALOT of complaints about doctors because she
>> automatically assumed I was writing about a complaint. Turns out
>> as the result of this surgeon closed door policy that UMC has lost
>> approx $15K. Doesn't really pay to stiff people until you know what
>> they are trying to tell you.
>>
>> What a crock. If you don't answer your email don't
>> paste an email contact address on your website. And don't falsely and
>> dishonestly claim your email address in your name when it is being
>> answered by another person entirely, not even a doctor
>> in this case.
>>
>> Shelton can keep screaming on late night TV about how
>> great University Medical Center is, because he will NEED to do
>> this to negate the reality of the situation.(One of the things I have
>> learned from "Looking Out for Number One" is that the louder they
>> proclaim what they are, you can pretty much assume the exact opposite
>> is true.)
>>
>> Until recently UMC was so short of surgeons it was a dangerous
>> place to even go to for emergency surgery as reported by the Arizona
>> Daily Star. And with the addition of more surgeons I am not so sure
it
>> is still safe. In reading the papers here, I notice how many
emergency
>> patients that should have survived die after being brought to UMC
>> hospital compared to other cities I have lived in. Very common to see
>> deaths from auto accidents here even when they arrive at the hospital
>> in the first critical hour.
>>
>> My personal experience with having seen a specialist at University
>> Medical Center in Tucson is that they are all screwed up. This
>> specialist was rude, did not follow-up on test
>> results and made several quite incompetent orders, which I caught
>> (lucky for me-I would be alot sicker now if I had not). Also they
have
>> this strange policy when you make an appointment with one doctor they
>> send some OTHER doctor/trainee to see you. This is
>> WITHOUT telling you they are going to do this in advance. So you
spend
>> your time thinking you will be seen by the physician you selected,
>> only to be seen by someone else you don't know from Adam. They don't
>> tell you this in advance so it's a bait and switch operation. In this
>> case the original doctor was rather incompetent so it did not matter,
>> I never saw him again. I can see now why Shelton has to go on TV alot
>> to proclaim what a great facility UMC is and what great doctors they
>> have there. I guess if you tell a big lie often enough people will
>> start to believe it-least the people in Tucson, not known for the
>> creme de la creme of intellectual towns.
>>
>> Considering how poor the USA medical system is, I cannot say
>> I am suprised by any of this. This sad state of USA medical care was
>> all exposed of course in the Michael Moore film Sicko. What I would
>> give to be a citizen of Western Europe where at least one is not
>> bankrupted by poor care as in the USA.
>>
>
> USED to be that doctors who advertised were considered unprofessional.
> Now they are all over the tube like used car salesmen. Five times a
day
> we get commercials from doctors soliciting business for themselves or
> their clinics. What is the doctor's equivalent of the laywer's
ambulance
> chaser? Ambulance stopper?
>
My only experience with the Hospital there was when some records clerk
gave me a hard time when trying to get copies of my records,til I
contacted her supervisor and threatened a HIPAA complaint.
U of A. campus is filled with monitoring cameras everywhere so I guess
that goes along with the whole general idea of we are the Masters and
you are the Slaves kind of thinking. No suprise they think they are too
important to reply to his email. I never go to clinics that advertise
alot. If they have to advertise means their patient turnover is great
and that word of mouth is not working for them.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> >>> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote
>
> >>>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
>
> >>> Isn't that redundant?
>
> >> Nope, some information advertising isnt spam.
>
> > Name three
>
> My town advertises when there is free vaccination for kids.
Public Service Announcement.
>
> My town advertises when its close to the last day to pay your rates without
> incurring any penalty.
Public Service Announcement
>
> My town advertises the current water restrictions.
Public Service Announcement
>
> My state govt advertises when there are double demerits for important driving
> offences, normally during the major public holidays like Xmas and Eastern
> etc, with the first and last days of the double demerits. Those vary from
> year to year depending on when the public holiday falls with respect to the
> weekend etc.
Public Service Announcement
Now, name three Advertisements, you know the stuff that commercial enterprises do
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote
>>>>>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
>>>>> Isn't that redundant?
>>>> Nope, some information advertising isnt spam.
>>> Name three
>> My town advertises when there is free vaccination for kids.
> Public Service Announcement.
Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
>> My town advertises when its close to the last day to pay your rates
>> without incurring any penalty.
> Public Service Announcement
Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
>> My town advertises the current water restrictions.
> Public Service Announcement
Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
>> My state govt advertises when there are double demerits for
>> important driving offences, normally during the major public
>> holidays like Xmas and Eastern etc, with the first and last days of
>> the double demerits. Those vary from year to year depending on when
>> the public holiday falls with respect to the weekend etc.
> Public Service Announcement
> Now, name three Advertisements,
Those are all advertisements.
> you know the stuff that commercial enterprises do
Those are all commercial enterprises.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> My town advertises when there is free vaccination for kids.
>
> > Public Service Announcement.
>
> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
Not an ad at all. Ads sell things, PSA's are for information purposes
>
> >> My town advertises when its close to the last day to pay your rates
> >> without incurring any penalty.
>
> > Public Service Announcement
>
> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
Not an ad at all. Ads sell things, PSA's are for information purposes
>
> >> My town advertises the current water restrictions.
>
> > Public Service Announcement
>
> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
Not an ad at all. Ads sell things, PSA's are for information purposes
> > Now, name three Advertisements,
>
> Those are all advertisements.
What did they sell?
>
> > you know the stuff that commercial enterprises do
>
> Those are all commercial enterprises.
So your gov't runs commercial enterprises, not public services?
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>>>> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote
>>>>>>>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
>>>>>>> Isn't that redundant?
>>>>>> Nope, some information advertising isnt spam.
>>>>> Name three
>>>> My town advertises when there is free vaccination for kids.
>>> Public Service Announcement.
>> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
> Not an ad at all.
Wrong, as always.
> Ads sell things,
Some do, some dont.
> PSA's are for information purposes
What I said.
>>>> My town advertises when its close to the last
>>>> day to pay your rates without incurring any penalty.
>>> Public Service Announcement
>> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
> Not an ad at all.
Wrong, as always.
> Ads sell things,
Some do, some dont.
> PSA's are for information purposes
What I said.
>>>> My town advertises the current water restrictions.
>>> Public Service Announcement
>> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
> Not an ad at all.
Wrong, as always.
> Ads sell things,
Some do, some dont.
> PSA's are for information purposes
What I said.
>>> Now, name three Advertisements,
>> Those are all advertisements.
> What did they sell?
That isnt the only point of an ad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertising
Advertising is a form of communication intended to persuade an audience (viewers, readers or
listeners) to purchase or take some action upon products, ideas, or services. It includes the name
of a product or service and how that product or service could benefit the consumer, to persuade a
target market to purchase or to consume that particular brand. These messages are usually paid
for by sponsors and viewed via various media. Advertising can also serve to communicate an idea
to a large number of people in an attempt to convince them to take a certain action.
...
Non-commercial advertisers who spend money to advertise items other than a consumer product or
service include political parties, interest groups, religious organizations and governmental agencies.
>>> you know the stuff that commercial enterprises do
>> Those are all commercial enterprises.
> So your gov't runs commercial enterprises,
Yes.
> not public services?
It does that too.
AlfredK
news:8tocmo...@mid.individual.net:
Re the subject of UMC in Tucson. Do not eat the salad bar at their
"cafeteria". I got food poisoning 2-3 times from that salad bar. The food
looks good but I had to quit eating it after that. Rest of their cafe is
good, but overpriced for a hospital cafeteria.
Funny how the op had so much trouble contacting surgeons there. Their
doctors use the same cafeteria as the hoy poloy. But they don't seem to
really talk to anyone but themselves.
A good doctor maintains open lines of communications. But nowadays you
cannot even get most doctors to listen to you. My last one kept looking
at his computer the entire visit. The most important aspect of medicine
is the doctor/patient relationship.....ooops sorry gave away my age, now
the most important aspect is making money and self-promotion.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not an ad at all.
>
> Wrong, as always.
Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
>
> > Ads sell things,
>
> Some do, some dont.
>
> > PSA's are for information purposes
>
> What I said.
It's what you thought, but that doesn't matter as PSA's aren't meant to sell
anything. If it isn't selling something it's probablya PSA or a Press Release
>
> > Not an ad at all.
>
> Wrong, as always.
Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
>
> > Not an ad at all.
>
> Wrong, as always.
Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
>
> > What did they sell?
>
> That isnt the only point of an ad.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertising
>
> Advertising is a form of communication intended to persuade an audience
> (viewers, readers or listeners) to purchase or take some action upon
> products, ideas, or services. It includes the name of a product or
> service and how that product or service could benefit the consumer, to
> persuade a target market to purchase or to consume that particular brand.
> These messages are usually paid for by sponsors and viewed via various
> media. Advertising can also serve to communicate an idea to a large
> number of people in an attempt to convince them to take a certain action.
> ...
> Non-commercial advertisers who spend money to advertise items other than
> a consumer product or service include political parties, interest groups,
> religious organizations and governmental agencies.
Or we could just look in a dictionary: advertising |?adv?r?t?zi ng | noun the
activity or profession of producing advertisements for commercial products or
services
Notice the use of the word "commercial" before "services"
>
> >>> you know the stuff that commercial enterprises do
>
> >> Those are all commercial enterprises.
>
> > So your gov't runs commercial enterprises,
>
> Yes.
What commercial services?
>
> > not public services?
>
> It does that too.
--
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras lobortis volutpat
commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing suscipit, velit urna
pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque
ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida
ac viverra tellus ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis.
Donec vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat aliquet
sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in, tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam
nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi
iaculis eros rutrum tristique ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna.
In pretium metus eu diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor
blandit.
--
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras lobortis volutpat
commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing suscipit, velit urna
pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque
ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida
ac viverra tellus ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis.
Donec vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat aliquet
sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in, tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam
nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi
iaculis eros rutrum tristique ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna.
In pretium metus eu diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor
blandit.
--
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras lobortis volutpat
commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing suscipit, velit urna
pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque
ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida
ac viverra tellus ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis.
Donec vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat aliquet
sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in, tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam
nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi
iaculis eros rutrum tristique ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna.
In pretium metus eu diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor
blandit.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>>>>>> unimportantpatient <unimporta...@miserableUSA.gov> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials
>>>>>>>>> Isn't that redundant?
>>>>>>>> Nope, some information advertising isnt spam.
>>>>>>> Name three
>>>>>> My town advertises when there is free vaccination for kids.
>>>>> Public Service Announcement.
>>>> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
>>> Not an ad at all.
>> Wrong, as always.
> Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
>>> Ads sell things,
>> Some do, some dont.
>>> PSA's are for information purposes
>> What I said.
> It's what you thought,
Its what I know, and so does wikipedia too.
> but that doesn't matter as PSA's aren't meant to sell anything.
Sometimes they are, somethings they arent.
> If it isn't selling something it's probablya PSA or a Press Release
Its also an ad and you get to like that or lump it.
>>>>>> My town advertises when its close to the last
>>>>>> day to pay your rates without incurring any penalty.
>>>>> Public Service Announcement
>>>> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
>>> Not an ad at all.
>> Wrong, as always.
> Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
>>> Ads sell things,
>> Some do, some dont.
>>> PSA's are for information purposes
>> What I said.
>>>>>> My town advertises the current water restrictions.
>>>>> Public Service Announcement
>>>> Still an ad on TV that isnt spam.
>>> Not an ad at all.
>> Wrong, as always.
> Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
> Ads sell things,
Some do, some dont.
> PSA's are for information purposes
What I said.
>>>>> Now, name three Advertisements,
>>>> Those are all advertisements.
>>> What did they sell?
>> That isnt the only point of an ad.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertising
>> Advertising is a form of communication intended to persuade an audience (viewers, readers or
>> listeners) to purchase or take some action upon products, ideas, or services. It includes the name
>> of a product or service and how that product or service could benefit the consumer, to persuade a
>> target market to purchase or to consume that particular brand. These messages are usually paid
>> for by sponsors and viewed via various media. Advertising can also serve to communicate an idea
>> to a large number of people in an attempt to convince them to take a certain action.
>> ...
>> Non-commercial advertisers who spend money to advertise items other than a consumer product or
>> service include political parties, interest groups, religious organizations and governmental agencies.
> Or we could just look in a dictionary: advertising |?adv?r?t?zi ng |
> noun the activity or profession of producing advertisements for
> commercial products or services
You need a new dictionary.
http://onelook.com/?w=advertizing
http://onelook.com/?w=advertising
> Notice the use of the word "commercial" before "services"
You need a new dictionary.
http://onelook.com/?w=advertizing
http://onelook.com/?w=advertising
>>>>> you know the stuff that commercial enterprises do
>>>> Those are all commercial enterprises.
>>> So your gov't runs commercial enterprises,
>> Yes.
> What commercial services?
The postal service and a host of others.
It used to run an airline, a number of banks, the only phone company,
a number of power companys, a number of water companys, and still
does with a number of those last two, and a serum laboritory, etc etc etc.
>>> not public services?
>> It does that too.
> --
>
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras
> lobortis volutpat commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing
> suscipit, velit urna pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae
> justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit
> ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida ac viverra tellus
> ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis. Donec
> vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
> Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat
> aliquet sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in,
> tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis
> vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi iaculis eros rutrum tristique
> ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna. In pretium metus eu
> diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor blandit.
Dont speak wog.
> --
>
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras
> lobortis volutpat commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing
> suscipit, velit urna pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae
> justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit
> ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida ac viverra tellus
> ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis. Donec
> vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
> Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat
> aliquet sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in,
> tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis
> vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi iaculis eros rutrum tristique
> ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna. In pretium metus eu
> diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor blandit.
I already told you, I dont speak wog.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Wrong, as always.
>
> > Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
But you never do
>
> Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
> is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
So you like little 2 year olds?
>
> >> Wrong, as always.
>
> > Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
>
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
But you never do
>
> Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
> is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
So you like little 2 year olds?
>
> >> Wrong, as always.
>
> > Indeed you are. Thanks for finally admitting it
>
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
But you never do
>
> Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone
> is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere near one.
So you like little 2 year olds?
>
> >>> So your gov't runs commercial enterprises,
>
> >> Yes.
>
> > What commercial services?
>
> The postal service and a host of others.
So your post office is privately run with absolutely no gov't control?
>
> It used to run an airline, a number of banks, the only phone company,
> a number of power companys, a number of water companys, and still
> does with a number of those last two, and a serum laboritory, etc etc etc.
>
> >>> not public services?
>
> >> It does that too.
>
> > --
> >
> > Lorem ipsum d
>
> I already told you, I dont speak wog.
Who asked you to?
Rod Speed
<reams of your peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
>>>>> So your gov't runs commercial enterprises,
>>>> Yes.
>>> What commercial services?
>> The postal service and a host of others.
> So your post office is privately run with absolutely no gov't control?
Yep. And plenty of commercial services not run by govt has
lots of govt control over what they can and cannot do too.
>> It used to run an airline, a number of banks, the only phone company,
>> a number of power companys, a number of water companys, and still
>> does with a number of those last two, and a serum laboritory, etc etc etc.
>>>>> not public services?
>>>> It does that too.
> --
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras
> lobortis volutpat commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing
> suscipit, velit urna pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae
> justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit
> ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida ac viverra tellus
> ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis. Donec
> vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
> Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat
> aliquet sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in,
> tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis
> vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi iaculis eros rutrum tristique
> ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna. In pretium metus eu
> diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor blandit.
>> I already told you, I dont speak wog.
> Who asked you to?
Who said anyone did ?
> --
>
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras
> lobortis volutpat commodo. Morbi lobortis, massa fringilla adipiscing
> suscipit, velit urna pharetra neque, non luctus arcu diam vitae
> justo. Vivamus lacinia scelerisque ultricies. Nunc lobortis elit
> ligula. Aliquam sollicitudin nunc sed est gravida ac viverra tellus
> ullamcorper. Vivamus non nisi suscipit nisi egestas venenatis. Donec
> vitae arcu id urna euismod feugiat. Vivamus porta lobortis ultricies.
> Nulla adipiscing tellus a neque vehicula porta. Maecenas volutpat
> aliquet sagittis. Proin nisi magna, molestie id volutpat in,
> tincidunt sed dolor. Nullam nisi erat, aliquet scelerisque sagittis
> vitae, pretium accumsan odio. Sed ut mi iaculis eros rutrum tristique
> ut nec mi. Aliquam nec augue dui, in mattis urna. In pretium metus eu
> diam blandit accumsan. Ut eu lorem sed odio porttitor blandit.
Record's stuck...
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>
> <reams of peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where
> it belongs>
Thank you for realizing the futility of of your verbiage and helping to clean
usenet.
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
> _ We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials here by Tucson
> _ University of Arizona President Shelton extolling what
> _ a great Hospital their University Medical Center is and
> _ how great their doctors are.
> _
> _ I guess one sign of how great they are is my emailing about 5
> _ surgeons/professors at the General Surgery Dept. of University
> Medical _ Center in Tucson, not a ONE answered. They paste their
> email addresses _ on their web site disingenuously and when someone
> _ emails them they ignore the emails. I assume a surgeon
> _ is smart enough to be able to tell the difference between spam
> _ and legitimate email when the subject is quite clear and obviously
> _ not spam.
> _
> _ In one case, I did get an answer from a SECRETARY. It seems
> _ the Chief of Surgery's email address is really this
> _ SECRETARY, rather dishonest imo to have an email address in
> _ your name when a non-physician lay person is really behind
> _ the email. She refused directly to give him my sent to HIS
> _ name until it had passed her LAY opinion/worthiness test.
> _ I guess they must get ALOT of complaints about doctors because she
> _ automatically assumed I was writing about a complaint. Turns out
> _ as the result of this surgeon closed door policy that UMC has lost
> _ approx $15K. Doesn't really pay to stiff people until you know what
> _ they are trying to tell you.
> _
> _ What a crock. If you don't answer your email don't
> _ paste an email contact address on your website. And don't falsely
> and _ dishonestly claim your email address in your name when it is
> being _ answered by another person entirely, not even a doctor
> _ in this case.
> _
> _ Shelton can keep screaming on late night TV about how
> _ great University Medical Center is, because he will NEED to do
> _ this to negate the reality of the situation.(One of the things I
> have _ learned from "Looking Out for Number One" is that the louder
> they _ proclaim what they are, you can pretty much assume the exact
> opposite _ is true.)
> _
> _ Until recently UMC was so short of surgeons it was a dangerous
> _ place to even go to for emergency surgery as reported by the Arizona
> _ Daily Star. And with the addition of more surgeons I am not so sure
> it _ is still safe. In reading the papers here, I notice how many
> emergency _ patients that should have survived die after being
> brought to UMC _ hospital compared to other cities I have lived in.
> Very common to see _ deaths from auto accidents here even when they
> arrive at the hospital _ in the first critical hour.
> _
> _ My personal experience with having seen a specialist at University
> _ Medical Center in Tucson is that they are all screwed up. This
> _ specialist was rude, did not follow-up on test
> _ results and made several quite incompetent orders, which I caught
> _ (lucky for me-I would be alot sicker now if I had not). Also they
> have _ this strange policy when you make an appointment with one
> doctor they _ send some OTHER doctor/trainee to see you. This is
> _ WITHOUT telling you they are going to do this in advance. So you
> spend _ your time thinking you will be seen by the physician you
> selected, _ only to be seen by someone else you don't know from Adam.
> They don't _ tell you this in advance so it's a bait and switch
> operation. In this _ case the original doctor was rather incompetent
> so it did not matter, _ I never saw him again. I can see now why
> Shelton has to go on TV alot _ to proclaim what a great facility UMC
> is and what great doctors they _ have there. I guess if you tell a
> big lie often enough people will _ start to believe it-least the
> people in Tucson, not known for the _ creme de la creme of
> intellectual towns. _
> _ Considering how poor the USA medical system is, I cannot say
> _ I am suprised by any of this. This sad state of USA medical care was
> _ all exposed of course in the Michael Moore film Sicko. What I would
> _ give to be a citizen of Western Europe where at least one is not
> _ bankrupted by poor care as in the USA.
> _
> -
> -USED to be that doctors who advertised were considered
> unprofessional.
> -Now they are all over the tube like used car salesmen. Five times a
> day
> -we get commercials from doctors soliciting business for themselves or
> -their clinics. What is the doctor's equivalent of the laywer's
> ambulance
> -chaser? Ambulance stopper?
> When are Americans going to wake up and realize how corrupt
> and profit motivated the medical industry is in this Country,
Likely never until it bankrupts them personally.
> besides being all fu*cked up in so many other ways?
> No wonder lawyers have a field day with medical industry here.
Lawyers have a field day with EVERYTHING in the US, stupid.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
> When are Americans going to wake up and realize how corrupt and profit
> motivated the medical industry is in this Country, besides being all fu*cked
> up in so many other ways?
What would you propose as an alternative?
> No wonder lawyers have a field day with medical industry here.
And the lawyers are better?
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead
Yes, it is your trademark.
Rod Speed
> MalRod Mal...@cox.com wrote
>> When are Americans going to wake up and realize how
>> corrupt and profit motivated the medical industry is in this
>> Country, besides being all fu*cked up in so many other ways?
> What would you propose as an alternative?
A decent modern health care system like every other first and second world country has.
The US is the only one that is stupid enough to have just the insurance system now.
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead
Yes you did
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
.-.. --- .-. . -- / .. .--. ... ..- -- / -.. --- .-.. --- .-. / ... .. - / .- --
. - --..-- / -.-. --- -. ... . -.-. - . - ..- .-. / .- -.. .. .--. .. ... -.-.
.. -. --. / . .-.. .. - .-.-.- / -.-. .-. .- ... / .-.. --- -... --- .-. - ..
... / ...- --- .-.. ..- - .--. .- - / -.-. --- -- -- --- -.. --- .-.-.- / -- ---
.-. -... .. / .-.. --- -... --- .-. - .. ... --..-- / -- .- ... ... .- / ..-.
.-. .. -. --. .. .-.. .-.. .- / .- -.. .. .--. .. ... -.-. .. -. --. / ... ..-
... -.-. .. .--. .. - --..-- / ...- . .-.. .. - / ..- .-. -. .- / .--. .... .-
.-. . - .-. .- / -. . --.- ..- . --..-- / -. --- -. / .-.. ..- -.-. - ..- ... /
.- .-. -.-. ..- / -.. .. .- -- / ...- .. - .- . / .--- ..- ... - --- .-.-.- /
...- .. ...- .- -- ..- ... / .-.. .- -.-. .. -. .. .- / ... -.-. . .-.. . .-. ..
... --.- ..- . / ..- .-.. - .-. .. -.-. .. . ... .-.-.- / -. ..- -. -.-. / .-..
--- -... --- .-. - .. ... / . .-.. .. - / .-.. .. --. ..- .-.. .- .-.-.- / .-
.-.. .. --.- ..- .- -- / ... --- .-.. .-.. .. -.-. .. - ..- -.. .. -. / -. ..-
-. -.-. / ... . -.. / . ... - / --. .-. .- ...- .. -.. .- / .- -.-. / ...- ..
...- . .-. .-. .- / - . .-.. .-.. ..- ... / ..- .-.. .-.. .- -- -.-. --- .-.
.--. . .-. .-.-.- / ...- .. ...- .- -- ..- ... / -. --- -. / -. .. ... .. / ...
..- ... -.-. .. .--. .. - / -. .. ... .. / . --. . ... - .- ... / ...- . -. . -.
.- - .. ... .-.-.- / -.. --- -. . -.-. / ...- .. - .- . / .- .-. -.-. ..- / ..
-.. / ..- .-. -. .- / . ..- .. ... -- --- -.. / ..-. . ..- --. .. .- - .-.-.- /
...- .. ...- .- -- ..- ... / .--. --- .-. - .- / .-.. --- -... --- .-. - .. ...
/ ..- .-.. - .-. .. -.-. .. . ... .-.-.- / -. ..- .-.. .-.. .- / .- -.. .. .--.
.. ... -.-. .. -. --. / - . .-.. .-.. ..- ... / .- / -. . --.- ..- . / ...- .
.... .. -.-. ..- .-.. .- / .--. --- .-. - .- .-.-.- / -- .- . -.-. . -. .- ... /
...- --- .-.. ..- - .--. .- - / .- .-.. .. --.- ..- . - / ... .- --. .. - - ..
... .-.-.- / .--. .-. --- .. -. / -. .. ... .. / -- .- --. -. .- --..-- / -- ---
.-.. . ... - .. . / .. -.. / ...- --- .-.. ..- - .--. .- - / .. -. --..-- / - ..
-. -.-. .. -.. ..- -. - / ... . -.. / -.. --- .-.. --- .-. .-.-.- / -. ..- .-..
.-.. .- -- / -. .. ... .. / . .-. .- - --..-- / .- .-.. .. --.- ..- . - / ...
-.-. . .-.. . .-. .. ... --.- ..- . / ... .- --. .. - - .. ... / ...- .. - .- .
--..-- / .--. .-. . - .. ..- -- / .- -.-. -.-. ..- -- ... .- -. / --- -.. .. ---
.-.-.- / ... . -.. / ..- - / -- .. / .. .- -.-. ..- .-.. .. ... / . .-. --- ...
/ .-. ..- - .-. ..- -- / - .-. .. ... - .. --.- ..- . / ..- - / -. . -.-. / --
.. .-.-.- / .- .-.. .. --.- ..- .- -- / -. . -.-. / .- ..- --. ..- . / -.. ..-
.. --..-- / .. -. / -- .- - - .. ... / ..- .-. -. .- .-.-.- / .. -. / .--. .-. .
- .. ..- -- / -- . - ..- ... / . ..- / -.. .. .- -- / -... .-.. .- -. -.. .. - /
.- -.-. -.-. ..- -- ... .- -. .-.-.- / ..- - / . ..- / .-.. --- .-. . -- / ... .
-.. / --- -.. .. --- / .--. --- .-. - - .. - --- .-. / -... .-.. .- -. -.. .. -
.-.-.-
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
--
.... . .- .-. -.. / - .... . / --- -. . / .- -... --- ..- - / -.-- --- ..- .-. /
.... . .- -.. / .- -. -.. / .- / -.- --- .- .-.. .- / -... . .- .-. .----. ... /
-... ..- -- / ..--.. /
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave
> for dead
Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.
Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?
You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.
Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?
It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.
But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?
Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.
But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?
Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.
What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?
Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.
But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?
It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"
What is a "RodBot"?
Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.
Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?
You got it!
What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?
KillFile!
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave
> for dead
reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belongs
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
.-. . .- -- ... / --- ..-. / -.-- --- ..- .-. / .--. .. --. / .. --. -. --- .-.
.- -. - / -- .. -. -.. .-.. . ... ... / ...-.- ...-.- ...-.- ...-.- / ..-. .-..
..- ... .... . -.. / .-- .... . .-. . / .. - / -... . .-.. --- -. --.
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Rod Speed
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong
Who or What is Rod Speed?
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong
Who or What is Rod Speed?
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong
Who or What is Rod Speed?