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Sep 12, 2010, 8:07:58 AM9/12/10
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NEWS from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 9, 2010
Release #10-339 Firm's Recall Hotline: (866) 220-1767
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908
Black & Decker Recalls Random Orbit Sanders Due to Laceration Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary
recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using
recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed. It is
illegal to resell or attempt to resell a recalled consumer product.

Name of Product: Black & Decker Random Orbit Sanders

Units: About 192,000

Manufacturer: Black & Decker (U.S.) Inc., of Towson, Md.

Hazard: The black plastic disc (called the platen) that holds the
sandpaper can fly off or break apart during use and the disc, or
pieces of the disc, can hit the user or those nearby, posing a
laceration hazard.

Incidents/Injuries: Black & Decker has received 73 reports of
incidents involving the sander?s black plastic disc (platen) breaking
or falling apart, including 15 reports of injuries from flying pieces,
one of which involved a serious facial laceration.

Description: This recall involves Black & Decker random orbit sanders
with model numbers RO400, RO400G, RO410, RO410K, RO410LW and FS3000ROS
and date codes between 200701 and 200929. The sanders are orange and
black. ?Black & Decker? is printed on the sanders. The model number is
printed on a label on the sander. The date code is stamped on the
underside of the sander where the dust bag is inserted.

Sold at: Home center, hardware and discount stores and by authorized
Black & Decker dealers nationwide from January 2007 through July 2009
for about $40.

Manufactured in: China

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled sanders
and contact Black & Decker for a free replacement platen to hold the
sandpaper.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact Black & Decker
toll-free at (866) 220-1767 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. ET Monday
through Friday or visit the firm?s website at www.blackanddecker.com
Picture of Back of Recalled Random Orbit Sander showing model number
identification

Picture of Underside of Recalled Random Orbit Sander showing date code
identification

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CPSC is still interested in receiving incident or injury reports that
are either directly related to this product recall or involve a
different hazard with the same product. Please tell us about it by
visiting https://www.cpsc.gov/cgibin/incident.aspx

The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission is charged with protecting
the public from unreasonable risks of serious injury or death from
thousands of types of consumer products under the agency's
jurisdiction. The CPSC is committed to protecting consumers and
families from products that pose a fire, electrical, chemical, or
mechanical hazard. The CPSC's work to ensure the safety of consumer
products - such as toys, cribs, power tools, cigarette lighters, and
household chemicals - contributed significantly to the decline in the
rate of deaths and injuries associated with consumer products over the
past 30 years.

To report a dangerous product or a product-related injury, call CPSC's
Hotline at (800) 638-2772 or CPSC's teletypewriter at (301) 595-7054.
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https://www.cpsc.gov/cpsclist.aspx. Consumers can obtain recall and
general safety information by logging on to CPSC's Web site at
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Sep 12, 2010, 9:56:37 AM9/12/10
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"zeez" <ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com> wrote in message
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I had that happen with my Makita random orbital. The piece that breaks apart
sort of a dense spongy foam, and when it got old and dried out it just
exploded. The replacement piece I bought for it was solid hard plastic,
unlikely to break apart, but less flexible than the original pad


Jeff Thies

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Sep 12, 2010, 10:43:40 AM9/12/10
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On 9/12/2010 8:07 AM, zeez wrote:
> http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10339.html
>
> NEWS from CPSC
> U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
> Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> September 9, 2010
> Release #10-339 Firm's Recall Hotline: (866) 220-1767
> CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
> CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908
> Black& Decker Recalls Random Orbit Sanders Due to Laceration Hazard

Does B&D make anything anymore that isn't crap?

Every B&D product I've bought in the last few years either didn't
function right (string trimmer not feeding line or feeding it all out)
or broke (drill broke at battery attachment). There's a few more.

I was using my 25 year old angle grinder a day ago and was thinking
how happy I was with it. Turns out it was Black & Decker, made long
before China. I suppose those days are long gone.

Jeff

The Henchman

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Sep 12, 2010, 11:03:51 AM9/12/10
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"Jeff Thies" <jeff_...@att.net> wrote in message
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DeWalts are Black and Decker....

Clams

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Sep 12, 2010, 11:14:26 AM9/12/10
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I've learned (the hard way) to never buy ANY product labeled as Black &
Decker, Haier, Panasonic or Emerson. All are minimal quality crap,
built to the minimum specs.

notbob

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Sep 12, 2010, 12:56:57 PM9/12/10
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On 2010-09-12, Jeff Thies <jeff_...@att.net> wrote:

> Does B&D make anything anymore that isn't crap?

If they do, I've not seen it. Most B&D stuff can now be found at
Walmart. That pretty much says it all.

nb

zeez

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Sep 12, 2010, 5:47:17 PM9/12/10
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True story: I knew someone who bought an iron that was built in the
1970s from a thrift shop as an emergency replacement for a 'modern'
POS that broke within a month. The 1970s iron is still going strong.

zeez

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Sep 12, 2010, 5:54:58 PM9/12/10
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Ewwww... Walmart is known to sell 'special' versions of products that
use cheaper components, but are usualy indistinguishable from the
'good' product, except for some obscure code in their model number.

Mrs Irish Mike

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Sep 13, 2010, 1:27:48 PM9/13/10
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On Sep 12, 2:54 pm, zeez <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> notbob wrote:
> > On 2010-09-12, Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > >    Does B&D make anything anymore that isn't crap?
>
> > If they do, I've not seen it.  Most B&D stuff can now be found at
> > Walmart.  That pretty much says it all.
>
> Ewwww... Walmart is known to sell 'special' versions of products that
> use cheaper components, but are usualy indistinguishable from the
> 'good' product, except for some obscure code in their model number.

Why do companies bow to WalMart? It makes their brand seem cheap.

Why does WalMart insist items be made so cheaply? To save a half-
cent, a plastic washer is subsitutued for a steel washer making the
entire appliance a POS.

Nothing can be fixed. Evrything is made to break. Our landfills are
full. We need to import from people who don't like us to keep the crap
coming in. No one has pride in labor.

Made in USA was a brand of quality. The entire world would look for
the Made in USA label. Now it is an oddity. Black and Decker used to
be made in the USA by people who knew their family or neighbor would
be using the product; now it is made by someone who works many hours
under bad conditions for a few pennies an hour, whom I wouldn't blame
for hating the B&D label.

I worked for WalMart for a few weeks. I couldn't believe how much
junk was in their stores, and I couldn't believe how many people went
there thinking they didn't have enough junk in their lives. Everything
is junk. We need more junk. Throw out the old junk and bring in the
new junk. WalMart knowing the value of junk applies the same measure
to people. People are junk and need to be replaced when they break.
Throw out the old junk and bring in the new junk.

Rod Speed

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Sep 13, 2010, 2:21:10 PM9/13/10
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Mrs Irish Mike wrote

> zeez <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote
>> notbob wrote
>>> Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote

>>>> Does B&D make anything anymore that isn't crap?

>>> If they do, I've not seen it. Most B&D stuff can now
>>> be found at Walmart. That pretty much says it all.

>> Ewwww... Walmart is known to sell 'special' versions of products that
>> use cheaper components, but are usualy indistinguishable from the
>> 'good' product, except for some obscure code in their model number.

> Why do companies bow to WalMart?

They move so much product.

> It makes their brand seem cheap.

That clearly doesnt concern most of their customers.

> Why does WalMart insist items be made so cheaply?

Because thats what their customers clearly care about, the price they pay.

> To save a half- cent, a plastic washer is subsitutued
> for a steel washer making the entire appliance a POS.

Not necessarily.

> Nothing can be fixed.

Depends entirely on your capabilitys.

> Evrything is made to break.

Few even bother rapairing anything when the replacement is so cheap.

> Our landfills are full.

Nope.

> We need to import from people who don't like us to
> keep the crap coming in. No one has pride in labor.

Plenty still do. Corse you have to pay a lot more for what they make.

> Made in USA was a brand of quality.

Sometimes it was, often it wasnt, most obviously with some of the crap cars made in the USA.

> The entire world would look for the Made in USA label.

Pure fantasy.

> Now it is an oddity.

Yes, because most care more about price than quality.

> Black and Decker used to be made in the USA by people
> who knew their family or neighbor would be using the product;

And then the world moved on, just like it always does
and they priced themselves out of the market.

> now it is made by someone who works many hours under bad conditions
> for a few pennies an hour, whom I wouldn't blame for hating the B&D label.

No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to make anything not made
in the US. Corse you will find it hard to buy most stuff made in the US now.

You're welcome to hobble along on some dinosaur PC that was made in the US.

> I worked for WalMart for a few weeks. I couldn't believe how much
> junk was in their stores, and I couldn't believe how many people went
> there thinking they didn't have enough junk in their lives. Everything
> is junk. We need more junk. Throw out the old junk and bring in the
> new junk. WalMart knowing the value of junk applies the same
> measure to people. People are junk and need to be replaced
> when they break. Throw out the old junk and bring in the new junk.

We can see why they gave you the bums rush you so richly deserved.


zzyzzx

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Sep 13, 2010, 3:27:19 PM9/13/10
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I happen to have one of these recalled sanders. I called it in and I
am waiting for the package in the mail. Mine hasn't self destructed
(yet) as per the recall advisory.

Clams

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Sep 13, 2010, 4:03:23 PM9/13/10
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Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2:54 pm, zeez <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>notbob wrote:
>>
>>>On 2010-09-12, Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Does B&D make anything anymore that isn't crap?
>>
>>>If they do, I've not seen it. Most B&D stuff can now be found at
>>>Walmart. That pretty much says it all.
>>
>>Ewwww... Walmart is known to sell 'special' versions of products that
>>use cheaper components, but are usualy indistinguishable from the
>>'good' product, except for some obscure code in their model number.
>
>
> Why do companies bow to WalMart? It makes their brand seem cheap.
>

Primarily to stay in business.


> Why does WalMart insist items be made so cheaply? To save a half-
> cent, a plastic washer is subsitutued for a steel washer making the
> entire appliance a POS.

To keep prices as low as possible.


>
> Nothing can be fixed. Evrything is made to break. Our landfills are
> full. We need to import from people who don't like us to keep the crap
> coming in. No one has pride in labor.

>
> Made in USA was a brand of quality.


Sure - like GM cars & Firestone tires, right?

Mrs Irish Mike

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Sep 13, 2010, 4:39:06 PM9/13/10
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> Sure - like GM cars & Firestone tires, right?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Like Ford cars. Ford didn't invent the auto, but he made a quality
product that the masses could afford.

Like Levi jeans. Like Craftman tools. Like Schwinn bicycles. Like
American toys. Like baseballs and baseball gloves. Like Brach's candy.
Like Converse sneakers. Like Fender Stratocaster guitars. Like IBM
PCs. Like America's banks. Even like American flags.

Like automobiles until Reagan's deregulation. For an inteligent
discussion, here is an article written ten years ago. Revelent then,
spooky true today: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/sep2000/fire-s25.shtml

"American workers are lazy and can't compete." Great. Americans
should compete against workers who make about a buck an hour with no
benifits. What happens when the Chinese worker paid $1 an hour has to
compete against a Vietnamese worker making $0.46 an hour? It should
get real interesting when African workers are willing to put in 16
hour days for $0.25 an hour and a drink of water. Soon to
be.

Les Cargill

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Sep 13, 2010, 7:39:23 PM9/13/10
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Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2:54 pm, zeez<blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2010-09-12, Jeff Thies<jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Does B&D make anything anymore that isn't crap?
>>
>>> If they do, I've not seen it. Most B&D stuff can now be found at
>>> Walmart. That pretty much says it all.
>>
>> Ewwww... Walmart is known to sell 'special' versions of products that
>> use cheaper components, but are usualy indistinguishable from the
>> 'good' product, except for some obscure code in their model number.
>
> Why do companies bow to WalMart? It makes their brand seem cheap.
>
> Why does WalMart insist items be made so cheaply? To save a half-
> cent, a plastic washer is subsitutued for a steel washer making the
> entire appliance a POS.
>

WalMart doesn't sell appliances that I have been able to determine.
Folks have gotten pretty good at cost reduction, though.

> Nothing can be fixed. Evrything is made to break. Our landfills are
> full. We need to import from people who don't like us to keep the crap
> coming in. No one has pride in labor.
>

I'd rather buy crap from 'em than shoot at 'em. There are still good
makes of tools, but they're - *surprise*- expensive. So I can
still buy a cheap drill at Wal Mart, and it'll still last a while for
no more than I use it, and my buddy the contractor can buy
pro tools and they'll last longer.

> Made in USA was a brand of quality. The entire world would look for
> the Made in USA label. Now it is an oddity. Black and Decker used to
> be made in the USA by people who knew their family or neighbor would
> be using the product; now it is made by someone who works many hours
> under bad conditions for a few pennies an hour, whom I wouldn't blame
> for hating the B&D label.
>

When you dig a bit, the people making pennies an hour like
the jobs better than what they were doing before. Just
like people in the Triangle Shirtwaist Company before the fire...

> I worked for WalMart for a few weeks. I couldn't believe how much
> junk was in their stores, and I couldn't believe how many people went
> there thinking they didn't have enough junk in their lives. Everything
> is junk. We need more junk. Throw out the old junk and bring in the
> new junk. WalMart knowing the value of junk applies the same measure
> to people. People are junk and need to be replaced when they break.
> Throw out the old junk and bring in the new junk.

It's phenomenal. What's weirder is - we bought a TV recently, and
you get a *much better price* if you buy online. Back
to the old Sears Catalog model of retail....


--
Les Cargill

zeez

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Sep 15, 2010, 2:06:43 AM9/15/10
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Might as well cut to the chase and go back to stone knives, peeing in
the great outdoors, and wearing animal pelts for clothing, since this
will be the end result of an unstopped race to the botton.
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