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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 26, 2011, 2:36:44 PM3/26/11
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At this pace we will have one in America pretty soon. Well, we don't
have a strongman like in the Arab world. We just suffer from
entrenched elites and a Globalization that makes the rich richer and
the poor poorer. Don't worry, we can scream all we want.

And if it ain't the bike revolution who cares anyway.

LONDON – Tens of thousands of mostly peaceful demonstrators streamed
into central London on Saturday to march against government budget
cuts, with a small breakaway group smashing its way into a bank,
breaking windows and spray painting logos on the walls.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110326/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_protest


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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 9:50:09 AM3/27/11
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On Mar 26, 11:46 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2:34 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> party".

That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
gas.

They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
borrowing from China.

Derek C

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Mar 27, 2011, 10:22:40 AM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 2:50 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> borrowing from China.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I wish 'gas' was that cheap in the UK?

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 10:56:46 AM3/27/11
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Your "rebellion boiling point" is 8 bucks the litre of "petrol."

Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?

Derek C

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Mar 27, 2011, 11:10:33 AM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 3:56 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> Gee, why haven't you converted to the American system?-
>


Why haven't the Yanks converted to SI units yet, which nearly every
other country in the world use?

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 11:17:24 AM3/27/11
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Yep, it's a pain in the arse when looking for a tool for the bike, but
I think our system is blessed by God. Things are the way they are,
period.

I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 11:33:15 AM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.

1982
"President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
Commerce."

Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.

Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
But are they metric or standard?

Derek C

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Mar 27, 2011, 11:50:27 AM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 4:17 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You don't even have proper gallons in the US, as they are only about
83% of the volume of a UK Imperial Gallon! Makes the gas guzzling mpg
figures of a V8 SUV seem even more impressive!

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 12:10:09 PM3/27/11
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What better way for America not to be part of the British Empire to
renounce the Imperial Gallon. I don't know, but it seems like many
Americans would think of the metric system as one world government
(socialism).

Some question that view though:

On Mar 27, 11:53 am, Dänk 666 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 9:36 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach


>
> > Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.
>
> > 1982
> > "President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
> > canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
> > transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
> > Commerce."
>
> > Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
> > to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.
>
> > Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
> > But are they metric or standard?
>

> Of course U.S. weapons are designed using the metric system, since the
> math of physics is impossible without it. I'm an American who loves
> metric and even uses it when cooking, and I seem to be the only one
> who prefers 24-hour time as well. However, my preference for metric
> didn't cost me or the taxpayers one cent.
>
> Some customary non-metric measurements remain, especially miles, since
> most U.S. cities are laid out using miles (i.e., one mile between
> major streets, ten blocks and minor streets in between). And
> Fahrenheit for temperature, since almost all appliances like ovens use
> it. It's easy enough to convert these units to metric when needed, so
> a government program to force the change is unnecessary and a waste of
> money.
>
> - - - -
>
> http://www.theonion.com/articles/metric-system-thriving-in-nations-in...
>
> Metric system thriving in nation's inner cities
>
> WASHINGTON, DC -- Despite other academic shortcomings, inner-city
> youths possess a firmer grasp of the metric system than their peers in
> suburban and rural areas, according to a Department Of Education study
> released Monday.
>
> "While the typical teen has only a vague notion of what a kilogram is,
> teens in the Cabrini Green housing projects in Chicago and the Watts
> neighborhood of Los Angeles were thoroughly familiar with this unit of
> metric measurement," said Ira Danielson, the researcher who
> spearheaded the study. "They were able to identify a kilogram of
> weight by merely tossing it back and forth in their hands."
>
> According to Danielson, young people in America's urban centers are so
> familiar with the kilogram that they have developed a system of
> abbreviations for the measurement, such as "kilo" or even
> "ki" (pronounced key).
>
> "Most of the teens, even those reading at a fourth-grade level, were
> familiar with the gram as a base unit that can be either compounded or
> divided," Danielson said. "Finally, here's an area where at-risk urban
> youths can really shine."
>
> In addition to their expertise with grams, urban youths proved
> knowledgeable about other metric units, including the millimeter,
> cubic centimeter, and liter.
>
> "They were surprisingly familiar with metric measurements in the
> medical field, aware that liters of blood are used in an emergency
> room and that certain medications are injected in cc's or mls,"
> Danielson said. "They also knew a great deal about ounces, but we
> preferred to focus on their metric expertise."
>
> In a follow-up study titled "Metric Skills Among The Economically
> Disadvantaged," Danielson and his team of researchers discovered that
> not only did the youths score higher in metric knowledge than any
> other demographic, but many could also distinguish among the smallest
> variations in size and amount.
>
> A Presidential Award For Metric Achievement hangs in an area of
> Detroit renowned for its metric use.
>
> In one test, subjects were asked to follow a recipe for "metric-weight
> chocolate-chip Cookies." Researchers found that the teens had a
> natural ability to estimate measurements of sugar, flour, and baking
> powder without using any measuring tools. When the use of a balance
> scale was required, the teens knew exactly how to operate it.
>
> "Y'all need 500 grams of flour," said Erick Boykins, a 16-year-old
> study participant from Newark, NJ, scraping out a small pile of flour
> with a razor. "That's half a kilo right there. Now the recipe says we
> gotta cut it with 200 g's of sugar."
>
> After combining all the ingredients, Boykins deftly divided the dough
> into 50 lumps of cookie dough almost identical in weight.
>
> The cookie test was cut short by the disappearance of 25 scales, but
> results are still being called "conclusive."
>
> "The youths seem to have some large blind spots in their knowledge,"
> Danielson said. "For example, they know millimeters very well and can
> distinguish between something that's 9mm wide and something 7.62mm
> wide, but for some reason, not one of the teens had ever heard of a
> hectare. And though they know how much volume a cc represents, none
> knew it stood for cubic centimeter."

So Reagan --and the Conservative psyche-- seems to have been very dumb
to miss that opportunity. We can still make it happen, right?

Obama is not in a position to defend that though. He'll be eaten alive.

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 12:33:20 PM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 12:16 pm, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:

> On 3/27/11 11:53 AM, D nk 666 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 9:36 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> > Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 27, 11:17 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >> Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> I heard Reagan had an opportunity to fix that but I don't remember.
>
> >> 1982
> >> "President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and
> >> canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was
> >> transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of
> >> Commerce."
>
> >> Yeah, he sure did. But we can't blame it on stupidity as he was trying
> >> to save "taxpayers money," and that is a sacred cow.
>
> >> Money --in the Conservative psyche-- is only well spent in weapons.
> >> But are they metric or standard?
>
> > Of course U.S. weapons are designed using the metric system, since the
> > math of physics is impossible without it.
>
> Really? How about all the cars that were developed using the US system
> (inches, pounds, etc.)? How about how computer chips were developed
> using the spacing between pins as 1/10"? While it is much more
> convenient to use the metric system, it is clearly possible to do
> physics with the US system or any other system of measurements.

>
> > I'm an American who loves
> > metric and even uses it when cooking, and I seem to be the only one
> > who prefers 24-hour time as well.
>
> I prefer 24-hour time, too.

>
> > However, my preference for metric
> > didn't cost me or the taxpayers one cent.
>
> Actually, if everyone used only the metric system (except for yard
> measurements in American football - I mean is has a US system unit for
> distance in its name), it would really simplify things for everyone. No
> more pesky conversions between US and metric.

>
> > Some customary non-metric measurements remain, especially miles, since
> > most U.S. cities are laid out using miles (i.e., one mile between
> > major streets, ten blocks and minor streets in between). And
> > Fahrenheit for temperature, since almost all appliances like ovens use
> > it. It's easy enough to convert these units to metric when needed, so
> > a government program to force the change is unnecessary and a waste of
> > money.
>
> Well, at least when it comes to money, money is metric: 100 cents = $1.
> The only common things in the US that is in the metric system when there
> is an American system alternative that are commonly used are the sizes
> of drinks (like 750 ml bottles of wine and 2000 ml bottles of soda).
> People don't say they are 185 cm; they say they are 6 foot 1 inch. And
> people don't say they weight 1024 newtons; instead they say they weigh
> 229 pounds.
>
> Jeff

The most common system for nuclear missiles though seems to be metric:

"The kiloton and megaton of TNT have traditionally been used to rate
the energy output, and hence destructive power, of nuclear weapons
(see nuclear weapon yield). This unit is written into various nuclear
weapon control treaties, and gives a sense of destructiveness as
compared with ordinary explosives, like TNT."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent

So in that sense the Conservatives are up to date.

Derek C

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Mar 27, 2011, 12:53:32 PM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 5:33 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> So in that sense the Conservatives are up to date.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Metric and Imperial tons are only about 2% different by a happy
accident of history, so no need to worry about kilotons and megatons.

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 27, 2011, 11:31:21 PM3/27/11
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Since we are talking about big guns...

On Mar 27, 9:57 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:

> I dunno...do you own a 9mm or a .38?

The bananas are about an inch or 25.4 mm in diameter. I gave up the
gun...

http://amazon.commerceguys.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/banana-gun-9818.jpg

His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher

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Mar 28, 2011, 9:13:52 AM3/28/11
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On Mar 28, 4:29 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> There is a budding Uncut movement in the US. The left wing "tea
> >> party".
>
> > That's true. But their revolution is all about taxes and the price of
> > gas.
>
> > They'll only rebel when the gallon hits 8 bucks. And they are OK with
> > borrowing from China.
>
> The weird thing about the London events is that some of the very young
> people involved seem to have similar ideas to those some of us held in
> 1968. I make no judgement. I am one of those rare birds who have not
> gone from left to right but from rabid left to very pale pink.

Isn't this the right revolution?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzCjGgrewYY

Or it simply says nothing to avoid a commitment? I'm in a permanent
state of revolution, and I know the institutions are in need of
change. Leave the Constitution. Forget about Che and Mao. Ride a bike
or bus and switch the priorities from the car.

One cyclist I approached yesterday said avoiding commitment, "You must
change yourself first." And I replied, "We do by riding a bike, but we
are under constant attack from the institutions. We must do what it
takes to survive."

INDIVIDUALISM has grown to alarming levels since 1968 judging by the
SUVs and Gated Communities found almost everywhere. Funny, the virus
is not everywhere, and a Canadian from Montreal tells me that they
making great advance in bike facilities and that they have no Gated
Communities.

I tell you, the revolution to me means first of all no Gated
Communities, regulated SUVs and great bike and public transportation
infrastructure. We can also say Curitiba, Brazil, is going through a
Revolution because it changes the reality of transportation, not
Venezuela. The latter is like America: CHEAP GAS FOR THE MASSES or you
lose the reelections.

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