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Salford1

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Dec 13, 2008, 2:43:22 AM12/13/08
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Makes sense.....Given the current climate!


http://www.osawatch.com/2007/02/can_you_live_on.html

Macuser

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Dec 13, 2008, 9:19:18 AM12/13/08
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This was an excellent article, and I have adopted most of the suggestions
already, e.g., I need a new microwave but don't want to buy one. I'm trying
to get a castoff from freecycle or find a replacement from a thrift shop.

Even though microwaves are cheap, I'd still rather get it free or spend $5
or less.

I think that if you have spent a whole year being cheap and have saved a lot
of money, it's a nice idea to splurge on something you love once in a while.
I use a big screen LCD TV that gives me a lot of enjoyment. This is my own
personal philosophy that blends thriftiness with enjoying money.
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"Thrift is sexy."


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Rod Speed

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Dec 13, 2008, 4:15:02 PM12/13/08
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Salford1 <vecti...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Makes sense.....Given the current climate!

Nope, if many are stupid enough to do that when it
isnt necessary, it will make that necessary for most.

> http://www.osawatch.com/2007/02/can_you_live_on.html


meow...@care2.com

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Dec 14, 2008, 9:48:32 PM12/14/08
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Salford1 wrote:
> Makes sense.....Given the current climate!
>
>
> http://www.osawatch.com/2007/02/can_you_live_on.html

Does it? I thought some of the points quite trivial, and it fails to
address the real issues.

If someone is unable to live on 12k a year, really they need to go
back to basic principles and learn them. Its not difficult.


NT

rick++

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Dec 15, 2008, 11:48:21 AM12/15/08
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The wild-card is housing.
Thats 40% of my annual budget.
If you live in cheap rural area or paid-off house,
housing cost may be trivial.

tween...@mypacks.net

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Dec 15, 2008, 1:25:56 PM12/15/08
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On Dec 15, 11:48 am, "rick++" <rick...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The wild-card is housing.
> Thats 40% of my annual budget.

Are you including taxes and insurance or just a rent /mortgage
payment?

Macuser

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Dec 15, 2008, 1:40:07 PM12/15/08
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True, all of it. Actually, I live on less than $12,000 a year.


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clams_casino

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Dec 15, 2008, 1:41:14 PM12/15/08
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rick++ wrote:

Which is why the OP recommended taking in boarders to share the housing
costs of utilities, mortgage, etc.

Seerialmom

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Dec 15, 2008, 3:16:22 PM12/15/08
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On Dec 12, 11:43 pm, Salford1 <vectisp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Makes sense.....Given the current climate!
>
>                        http://www.osawatch.com/2007/02/can_you_live_on.html

Makes more sense to know how to live cheaply before you "have to".
The suggestions given were "ok" but really didn't address the big
ticket items like healthcare, transportation or cost of living based
on location.

rick++

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Dec 16, 2008, 11:50:10 AM12/16/08
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On Dec 15, 11:25 am, tweeny90...@mypacks.net wrote:

> > The wild-card is housing.
> > Thats 40% of my annual budget.
>
> Are you including taxes and insurance or just a rent /mortgage
> payment?

Basically all of the "ultra frugal" stories I read, no one pays
much of anything for housing. They either have a paid-off
or inherited house or living with someone else who doesnt
charge them rent or live on street. Ditto for 60 Minutes
frugal guy who "washes his paper towels" last Sunday.

In my case its $1000 for mortgage, tax, insurance, all utilities
for a 800-square foot unit. Small part of my income but
large part of my budget.

tween...@mypacks.net

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Dec 16, 2008, 12:39:44 PM12/16/08
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On Dec 13, 2:43 am, Salford1 <vectisp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Makes sense.....Given the current climate!
>
>                        http://www.osawatch.com/2007/02/can_you_live_on.html

This is all nickel and dime stuff. The bit about owning more clothes
and washing less frequently is a joke. Doesn't it amount to the same
thing - doing one load a week or two loads every two weeks? Now, if
he'd said "wear the same clothes and never wash em" then I can see a
savings. But who wants to live that way?

The only folks I know who can get by on 12 thou a year are an elderly
couple who live in cheap paidup housing in the sticks, don't own a
car, never eat out, are uninsured and def. don't have the frills.

curly'q

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Dec 17, 2008, 6:02:37 AM12/17/08
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I don't think it's so much a matter of what you live on, but what you
could live on if you had to. We could could get by on
half or less of what we do now. It's that cushion that gives us a
sense of security. For some of us, the frills are quite unimportant
and certainly not worth going into debt for.

LA


tween...@mypacks.net

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Dec 17, 2008, 9:05:43 AM12/17/08
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On Dec 17, 6:02 am, "curly'q" <sunsidese...@gmail.com>

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> I don't think it's so much a matter of what you live on, but what you
> could live on if you had to.

Ha. If I had to really live on less, I could move in on a relative
and mooch on him or her. Wouldn't need to spend a dime.

curly'q

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Dec 17, 2008, 10:18:28 AM12/17/08
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There you go......that's the spirit.

LA

Rod Speed

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Dec 17, 2008, 3:20:20 PM12/17/08
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rick++ wrote:

Not trivial the way the US does property taxes.


Rod Speed

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Dec 17, 2008, 3:25:12 PM12/17/08
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>> Makes sense.....Given the current climate!

>> http://www.osawatch.com/2007/02/can_you_live_on.html

> This is all nickel and dime stuff. The bit about owning more clothes
> and washing less frequently is a joke. Doesn't it amount to the same
> thing - doing one load a week or two loads every two weeks?

He's actually talking about only washing full loads.

> Now, if he'd said "wear the same clothes and never wash em"
> then I can see a savings. But who wants to live that way?

Bums.

> The only folks I know who can get by on 12 thou a year are an elderly
> couple who live in cheap paidup housing in the sticks, don't own a
> car, never eat out, are uninsured and def. don't have the frills.

Anyone who doesnt have significant housing costs can do that too.


Jonathan Grobe

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Dec 25, 2008, 10:13:50 AM12/25/08
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On 2008-12-17, Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone who doesnt have significant housing costs can do that too.
>
Have you priced health insurance lately? I live in a lower
medical cost state and pay close to $7,000/year as a single
person for health insurance--and expect a big increase next
year..

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Rod Speed

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Dec 25, 2008, 3:22:23 PM12/25/08
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Jonathan Grobe wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>> Anyone who doesnt have significant housing costs can do that too.

> Have you priced health insurance lately?

You dont have to have to have that, most obviously if you're 25 etc.

> I live in a lower medical cost state and pay close to $7,000/year as a
> single person for health insurance--and expect a big increase next year..

See above.


Macuser

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Jan 24, 2009, 9:08:11 AM1/24/09
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It's not just housing costs; if you have a car loan to pay back, or other
types of debt, it's a big outlay.


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"Thrift is sexy." ;)

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