My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered!
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
prayers have been answered. See, l lived in the corner of a major
thoroughfare where I witnessed three motorcycle accidents that made me
sell my scooter.
So now that I don't have the scooter, and I'm waiting for better times
for the bicycles, I must be careful when I drive. I have made it a
practice to stop before time, but I'm still nervous of other drivers
forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
middle of the intersection.
If I get a ticket despite my utmost care then I'll take back my
prayers and try to ride a bus or a bicycle --traffic allowing. You
must always have a Plan B in the jungle.
NOTE: I remember the times when running the light was a bloody sport
and I'm still for the cameras.
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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"When your wishes come true is time to wish again"
dgk
TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Whether it was my prayers or the actual need for cash by the city, my
>prayers have been answered. See, l lived in the corner of a major
>thoroughfare where I witnessed three motorcycle accidents that made me
>sell my scooter.
>
>So now that I don't have the scooter, and I'm waiting for better times
>for the bicycles, I must be careful when I drive. I have made it a
>practice to stop before time, but I'm still nervous of other drivers
>forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
>middle of the intersection.
>
>If I get a ticket despite my utmost care then I'll take back my
>prayers and try to ride a bus or a bicycle --traffic allowing. You
>must always have a Plan B in the jungle.
>
>NOTE: I remember the times when running the light was a bloody sport
>and I'm still for the cameras.
>
>
Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
break sharply to avoid tickets. SInce everyone is going over the speed
limit, well, you can guess what happens. The cameras seem to prevent
very few side impact collisions because most opposing drivers
understand that the trailing cars in a pack will usually continue
through a light just turning red and wait a second before starting.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
I've heard that argument 100 times, but it makes little sense:
1- Observe proper distance b/ cars, ie. a car for every 10 miles...
Isn't that taught anymore?
2- When it does happen it's most like the result of the cell phone,
which is the bigger problem,
3- It's preferable a rear-end collision to a broadside one,
4- The guilty party pays for the crime, where before it was uncertain
who ran the light,
5- Cyclists and motorcyclists were victims of lots of these accidents
since they were simply ignored,
6- Money for the city is always good --if they use it right. ;)
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
around. For an eyewitness account, you must kindly provide airline
tickets, car rental fees and hotel accommodations. Lunch is on me...
"Just a perspective from over the pond.
In Belgium (or at least in Flanders) there are a lot of camera's. We
have 3 kinds:
1. Trafiic lights. They detect if you run through red lights and only
that no speeding. Mostly places on dangerous crossings. Sometimes they
are combined with speed camera's but that's rare
2. Speed camera's mostly on rural roads in buildup area's where people
really should be carefull of there speed
3. Highway patrols. Sometimes moving along with traffic or standing on
the side of the road with a speed gun.
Most people here think that the government only installs these to get
more money, while there effect has been proven to lower accident if
placed on accident sensitive locations. I coulnd't care less, since I
never speed.
For the hacker command, we use camera's taht aren't connected to any
network, so no hacking is possible. Yes, that means that from time to
time somebody needs to go by every camera to get it's picture and put
in a new catridge (analog or digital).
Also bnther, thos camera's are correct. Theve been calibrated plus
they allow a tolarence. If the speed limit is pe. 55mph they only
start flashing at 60mph.
Another interesting thing they do here in Belgium: Since the camera
itself is quit expensive they only by a few but construct a lot more
poles to put them on. Since you can't see from you're car if that box/
pole has a camera inside. You'll slow down for every pole (or not
speed to begin with) They move the camera's around so you never can be
sure where the real ones are."
***
I was impressed at how rigidly Germans obeyed the speed limits when I
was driving over there last month.
I was also impressed at how reasonable those speed limits were, for
the most part. Urban areas and high traffic areas limited, highways
with a high "recommended speed" of 130 km/h. (I also understand that
although the police do not enforce a speed limit, if someone gets into
an accident above the recommended speed, it could impact the
willingness of their insurance provider to cover the cost of the
accident.) In other words, they weren't playing the silly games that
U.S. highway patrols do on rural highways, hiding behind billboards or
trees. The traffic cameras keep a strict eye on the areas (around
exits or in urban/developed areas,) where the speed is properly
limited. Slower traffic keeps right, faster traffic keeps left. If we
were to move in that direction, it would be an improvement from where
we are now, at least from a driving safety and efficiency standpoint.
On a technical level, things seem to work well.
However.... I am still concerned at the civil liberties implications
of government cameras taking pictures for law enforcement purposes.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22498
***
About the government having you in check... no big deal. It's the
government "by the people, for the people, etc." But they'll be
feeding on the real bad guys.
dgk
TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
If you leave four car lengths at 40 mph you will have three cars move
in front of you. I'm well aware of the "rule", but clearly we're
facing real life here. There is no indication that cell phone use has
a significant effect. I almost hit someone who stopped for a yellow
light the other day and I was paying attention. You just don't expect
people to stop like that. I didn't hit him because I had enough room.
Maybe the rear end accident rates will drop as people get used to
this. If so, it is certainly a good thing.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 27, 8:46 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> ><beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> On Sep 27, 4:51 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > , but I'm still nervous of other drivers
> >> > forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
> >> > middle of the intersection.
>
> intersection you're either already running the light or you're with
> the green and perfectly legal.
>
> >> No one can"force" you to run the light. You're as bad as the idiots
> >> who say speeders on the freeways force everyone else to speed.!!! I
> >> never speed or run reds and no criminal is gonna force me to. I got
> >> balls.
>
> >You can only be stupid to cut off a car coming at you determined to
> >run the red light and whatever stands on his way.
>
> >Actually you'll be charged for the accident too!
>
> >You are obssessed with speed without minding where that speeding
> >happens. For example, I do NOT mind a Ferrari going 120 mph on the
> >expressway on the passing lane.
>
> God Lord, I certainly mind somebody going 120 MPH regardless of the
> car and regardless if they're Michael Schumacher.
Common place in Germany. But with true socialism we can ban Ferraris.
Having a Ferrari in America though is a teasing game.
VFW
<b3b39afb-8323-4943...@x12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
I just saw an ad for an Audi, V10 capable of doing 195 mph.
Now , they said it was very affordable, but never revealed the price.
my q. Just where are you going to drive this sucker?
w/o losing your license?
--
Karma, What a concept!
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
> In article
> <b3b39afb-8323-4943-9205-6df6bc4f9...@x12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
They figure they'll milk you twice when buying this car: 1- At the
time of purchase, 2- When you use it at full capacity and get so many
tickets.
Or you can park it outside your house with a sign, "Hey you all, I got
a Ferrari!"
I see them roaring all the time between 2nd and 3rd gear.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:37:09 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>
>
>
> <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <LOL> Because they're going to come straight into the back of
> somebody going 75 MPH who is passing somebody going 70 MPH... Probably
> a big truck. That'd be messy.
>
> >It doesn't make a difference to me. Then again I'm not a control
> >freak, like the LLBs who've blocked the passing lane which brings some
> >arseholish drivers into the right and shoulder at high speed where they
> >cause problems for me. Like the BMW M3 driver that passed me using an on
> >ramp acceleration lane and the right shoulder.
>
> >I drove nearly 120mph on the autobahn behind a cop I couldn't quite keep
> >up with (damn 1.6L rental car ;)) and it was a complete non-event. It's
> >time americans stopped being a bunch of holier than thou control freaks
> >and stopped trying to turn all of society into a first grade government
> >school classroom.
>
> <chuckle> Unless you're making that all up as I suspect, I think
> that it was probably 120 KPH since speedometers over that register in
> kilometers. That'd make it about 70 MPH. Not many 1.6 litre cars
> that will even go 120 MPH. Maybe a mini-cooper. I sure wouldn't want
> to rear end a semi truck in one of those...
I don't want to be in a collision b/ MiniCooper and SUV.
What is the problem, the Mini or the Maxi?
Paul - xxx
> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
> break sharply to avoid tickets.
In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a rear-end
collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or for a red light
camera.
--
Paul - xxx
mobile ...
Simon Lewis
Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.
Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
distance back.
Paul - xxx
<simonle...@gmail.com> said:
> "Paul - xxx" <notchec...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> dgk wrote:
>>
>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
>>> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>>
>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or
>> for a red light camera.
>
> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.
I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.
> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
> distance back.
Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red light, or a
camera. I've seen rear enders in traffic and on motorways and under other
circumstances ...
dgk
I'm glad for you. I haven't seen it either. But that is what we call
anecdotal evidence. The statistics are here:
http://thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp
I haven't seen anyone get struck by lightning but I understand that it
does happen.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
The cell phones weren't around before either. How can you break on
time when you are talking to your sweetheart?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:06:54 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
>
>
>
> >Innews:i7v26t$23e$1...@news.eternal-september.org, Simon Lewis
> ><simonlewis2...@gmail.com> said:
> >> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckede...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> >>> dgk wrote:
>
> >>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
> >>>> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>
> >>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
> >>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or
> >>> for a red light camera.
>
> >> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.
>
> >I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.
>
> >> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
> >> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
> >> distance back.
>
> >Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red light, or a
> >camera. I've seen rear enders in traffic and on motorways and under other
> >circumstances ...
>
> I'm glad for you. I haven't seen it either. But that is what we call
> anecdotal evidence. The statistics are here:
>
> http://thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp
>
> I haven't seen anyone get struck by lightning but I understand that it
> does happen.
Maybe it's because the odds are the same.
The situation around here BEFORE was very funny... Cars would be slow
to turn left with the arrow, but kept going long after the light
turned red.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle
> On 9/27/2010 11:26 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 7:18 pm, John S<joh...@no.spam> wrote:
> >> On 9/27/2010 2:26 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>> It looks idiotic though not as much as driving 3 tons of SUV to get a
> >>> gallon of milk.
>
> >> Would it be smarter to have a different sized vehicle to perfectly match
> >> every possible transportation need? Have an SUV to haul bulk recycling
> >> materials to the recycling center, then have a four door car to move
> >> children, then have a hatchback to commute with sales equipment, then
> >> have a scooter to buy milk (in good weather) a few miles away? It
> >> sounds smarter/require less resources to have one vehicle, even if it
> >> may be overkill at sometimes.
>
> > Most SUV owners also have bikes at home, or can buy one to go and get
> > a loaf of bread.
>
> > How about owning a car and renting a U-Haul truck when they need it?
>
> I'm glad you are willing to instruct others on how to make the best
> choices for their daily lives. Riding a bike for every time one wants
> to go to the supermarket is often not very practical, can be very
> dangerous on some roads (more so at night) and has the problems increase
> with bad weather.
Big Brother already does that service for you. He decides that you
can't freely import cars from Europe. They must meet certain
standards, the same standards SUVs don't meet because they are not
technically cars but trucks, and yet you can drive them with a regular
license.
It sounds complicated but it's all about money. ;)
>
> I know I would not want to have to go through the hassle of renting a U
> Haul truck every weekend. It is expensive, plus requires separate
> insurance for each rental to be properly insured. Perhaps you would be
> willing to provide trucks at cost for everyone?
Chavez' socialism allows you to fill up a gas guzzler's tank with two
bucks. Something most Americans don't know or else they would turn
socialist.
Paul - xxx
<d...@somewhere.com> said:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:06:54 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
> <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In news:i7v26t$23e$1...@news.eternal-september.org, Simon Lewis
>> <simonle...@gmail.com> said:
>>> "Paul - xxx" <notchec...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> dgk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as
>>>>> drivers break sharply to avoid tickets.
>>>>
>>>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
>>>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light
>>>> or for a red light camera.
>>>
>>> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the
>>> time.
>>
>> I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.
>>
>>> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
>>> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
>>> distance back.
>>
>> Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red
>> light, or a camera. I've seen rear enders in traffic and on
>> motorways and under other circumstances ...
>
> I'm glad for you. I haven't seen it either. But that is what we call
> anecdotal evidence. The statistics are here:
Did I say any different?
> http://thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp
>
> I haven't seen anyone get struck by lightning but I understand that it
> does happen.
Now I _have_ seen someone struck by lightning .. ;)