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tripletask@gmail..com

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Jul 28, 2010, 2:00:30 PM7/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:10:37 -0400, No Surr...@never.net wrote:

>AN E-MAIL FROM A FRIEND
>
>HEAD: What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
>I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament"- 10/25/07.
>
>I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "illegal aliens pay
>rent, buy groceries, buy clothes. What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?"
>
> Hummm, I thought, what would happen, so I did my due diligence, buried my nose as a reporter into the FACTS I found below.
>It's a good question it deserves an honest answer. Over 80% of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration
>stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers I found may surprise you!
>
>In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on
>overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested.
>Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.
>
>In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandchilds would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico.
>
> That would save Colorado an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling,
>medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
>
>Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local
>citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other
>crimes by illegals.
>
>Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% dropout/flunk rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41
>different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our grid locked cities in Colorado. Denver's 4%
>unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.
>
>In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.
>In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and
>more crime-free experience.
>
>If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S. Economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal
>American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working off the
>books. That would result in an additional $401 Billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local,
>state and city coffers.
>
>No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 100
>languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million
>illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.
>
>We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13
>gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.
>
>In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for
>ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!
>
>Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and
>driving American deaths by illegal aliens!
>
>America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the
>aliens' home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America 's
>economy which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.
>
>$8.7 trillion debt.
>
>At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86
>hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because
>illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.
>
>Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our
>borders.
>
>Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the
>'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our greenhouse gases.
>Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego,
>California in what the New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay
>and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage,
>clean water, streets, roads, electricity, or any kind of sanitation.
>
>The New York Times reported them to be America's new 'Third World' inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current
>growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it's
>sickening beyond anything you can imagine.)
>
>By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico. We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
>countries and/or make a better life in Mexico We already invite a million people into our country legally more than all other
>countries combined annually. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing
>lawlessness at every level in our nation. It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of
>life.
>
>Interesting Statistics!
>
>Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are
>read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:
>1. $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens.(that's Billion with a 'B') -
>http://tinyurl.com/zob77
>2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for
>illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>3. $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they
>still cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>5. $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor
>babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>6. $3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. That's $1.2 Billion a
>year.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>7. 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>8. $190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. -
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
>9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens.
>In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
>11. During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500
>illegal aliens from other terrorist countries Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern terrorists. Millions of pounds of
>drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, crack, Guns, and marijuana crossed into the U.S.from the southern border.
>http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
>12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion,
>or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period and nbsp;
>-http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute./ .. org/publications.php?b=deportation
>13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin, to their families and
>friends. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
>14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United
>States! http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
> Total cost a whopping $538 . 3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!
>
> If this doesn't bother YOU, then just delete the message. Otherwise, forward this to everyone YOU know!
>************
>No surrender!
>
>Dionysus

Thanks for the info and links.
>
Many Americans don't understand the finacial impact of illegals. They
do understand the crime, fith, and decay brought by these invaders.

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Hachiroku ハチロク

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Jul 28, 2010, 4:18:39 PM7/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:00:30 -0400, tripletask wrote:

>>AN E-MAIL FROM A FRIEND
>>
>>HEAD: What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
>>I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament"- 10/25/07.
>>
>>I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "illegal aliens pay
>>rent, buy groceries, buy clothes. What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?"

I don't know but I'm willing to take a chance and find out...

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"Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote in message news:4c5090e0$0$74751

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> I don't know but I'm willing to take a chance and find out...


Me too, me too!

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Jul 29, 2010, 1:37:04 AM7/29/10
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tripletask@gmail..com says...

> Thanks for the info and links.
> >
> Many Americans don't understand the finacial impact of illegals. They
> do understand the crime, fith, and decay brought by these invaders.


Yeah, they've been degrading the country since about 1605.


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On Jul 29, 1:37 am, Coffee's For Closers <Usenet2...@THE-DOMAIN-
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Please just go kill yourself. Why is it that you keep popping up in
every newgroup I read? Did you follow me here? Please take your
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> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:10:37 -0400, No Surr...@never.net wrote:
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>>AN E-MAIL FROM A FRIEND
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>>HEAD: What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?


If they left California, our budget problems -- $10 Billion deficit -- would
be gone tomorrow. I have trouble understanding the down side of that.

We spend ten billion tax dollars per year on the illegal immigrant
population in this state. We'd have to find a way to staff the carwash, and
that might be difficult. But there are plenty of legal immigrants that need
the jobs, so it wouldn't be impossible.

edspyhill01

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Jul 29, 2010, 11:08:19 PM7/29/10
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On Jul 29, 8:08 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <tripletask@gmail..com> wrote in message
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> > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:10:37 -0400, No Surren...@never.net wrote:
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> >>AN E-MAIL FROM A FRIEND
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> >>HEAD:  What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
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> If they left California, our budget problems -- $10 Billion deficit -- would
> be gone tomorrow. I have trouble understanding the down side of that.
>

No it wouldn't. To fix the deficits in all states you'd have to
convert all government workers' and teachers' defined pensions to
401K's. It's the pensions.

Sure,Not

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Jul 30, 2010, 11:16:49 AM7/30/10
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That is certainly a big part of it.

Jeff Strickland

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<JS>
That's only partly true. Actually, it's entirely true that the pensions need
to be fixed, but I'm not so sure about the 401(k)s. 401(k) need to be fixed
to protect the participant's interests, but they aren't part of the budget
problems in so much as they represent a burden for the state.

But Illegal Immigration costs California $10 BILLION per year. That's 10
with a shit load of zeros on the end. Illegal immigration is exactly HALF of
the budget deficit this year, and last year, and the year before, and in all
likelihood next year and the year after.

Illegal immigrants represent about 2% of the state population, yet they are
about 25% of the prison population. That's a problem. A very costly problem.
I don't mean to paint all illegals as criminals because clearly they are
not -- beyond the crime of being an illegal immigrant that is.

They come here and work hard, if they can find a job. I work in
construction, and it's difficult to keep pace with the Mexicans on the job,
but they draw low wages and sap public services as a result. And since they
are paid under the table, or off the books, or however you wish to
characterize it, they do not pay taxes on the income they get. They do pay
rent somewhere, and the landlord pays property tax on the property so there
is some tax revenue, but illegals do not directly pay taxes other than Sales
Tax when they purchase goods and services. But they use public health care
that cost far more than the sales tax revenues they generate. They have kids
in schools that cost far more than the property tax revenues that are
generated. The cost of illegals in the prison system is extraordinary, I
believe it costs about $70,000 per year per inmate. Illegal immigration is a
net-cost to the state, not a net-benefit.


</JS>

edspyhill01

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On Jul 30, 12:14 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "edspyhill01" <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I think we have found common ground.

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tmc...@searchmachine.com says...

> Please just go kill yourself. Why is it that you keep popping up in
> every newgroup I read? Did you follow me here? Please take your
> negative, anti-mommy, anti-husband screed elsewhere. PLEASE!! I'm
> childfree, and assholefree. You are definintely an ASSHOLE!! GO
> AWAY!!!!!!


Ask your mommy to give you your meds.

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