Unbelievable, the Buddhists are sending me to Hell!
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
of the Jungle will have to part ways with the old Buddhist Wisdom.
Isn't it too outdated? Isn't it time to abandon that lotus position
and relax in a hammock? The hammock was invented by the Mayans in the
jungle, so the legend goes, and then adopted by the Gringos, right?
What could be more original?)
On Jan 3, 10:08 pm, Vajra <va...@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
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> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:57:51 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> the prophet of the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >The problem is evil is often disguised as good. Many of us would have
> >seen evil differently from within the guts of the Nazi beast as a
> >German. Many millions died "defending" the Fatherland, vaguely aware
> >of the concentration camps if at all, fighting the evils of Communism
> >and Democracy. ALL POLITICAL SYSTEMS CONTAIN GOOD AND EVIL IN
> >DIFFERENT DEGREES.
>
> >Now, some causes are definitely a solid "GOOD," such as doing what we
> >can for the environment. Funny, many Christians dismiss Climate Change
> >as a conspiracy. But maybe is not evil that they choose, but something
> >they hear. Then one is confused whether to classify them as evil or
> >dumb.
>
> >Riding my monkey bike is definitely a ticket to join the Spirits of
> >the Jungle upon death. If something happens to anyone while doing
> >something heroic, just tell the bouncer at the gates of Paradise:
> >"Hey, the TibetanMonkey sent me!"
>
> >-----------------------------------------------
>
> >DO YOU KNOW THE NAKED TRUTH?
>
> >http://www.zazzle.com/naked_truth_tshirt-235648297066104001
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> In Tibetan Buddhism, karma teaches that the negative expreiences we have to
> deal with in this life are the results of negative thoughts, words and
> actions of previous lives. These negative karmas also can affect our
> rebirth. Riding a bicycle won't ensure a good rebirth. In Tibetan Buddhism,
> paradise is for enlightened beings so don't hold your breath to see any
> gates, except the ones going down.
This amounts to sending me to Hell! ;)
So someone who destroys the environment with "casual disregard" may
reach a higher reincarnation just because he doesn't have any negative
thoughts? And what is a negative action anyway? Killing a human being,
a cat, a bird, driving an SUV, which results in negative consequences
of all types, including placing other people lives at greater risk?
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"WISDOM OF THE JUNGLE"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> On 05/01/2011 01:53, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the
>
> deep jungle wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 3:28 am, livvy <mmrward1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 3, 12:07 pm, default wrote:
>
> >>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:49:04 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the
> >>> TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"
>
>
> >>>> On Jan 3, 4:33 am, "love&peace" <williamu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Consider this: Man is free to choose between evil and good. the
> >>>>> consequences for evil is suffering; the consequences for good is joy.
> >>>>> If one is suffering because of his evil ways, he needs to change to
> >>>>> good in order to experience joy.
>
> >>>> The problem is evil is often disguised as good. Many of us would have
> >>>> seen evil differently from within the guts of the Nazi beast as a
> >>>> German. Many millions died "defending" the Fatherland, vaguely aware
> >>>> of the concentration camps if at all, fighting the evils of Communism
> >>>> and Democracy. ALL POLITICAL SYSTEMS CONTAIN GOOD AND EVIL IN
> >>>> DIFFERENT DEGREES.
>
> >>>> Now, some causes are definitely a solid "GOOD," such as doing what we
> >>>> can for the environment. Funny, many Christians dismiss Climate Change
> >>>> as a conspiracy. But maybe is not evil that they choose, but something
> >>>> they hear. Then one is confused whether to classify them as evil or
> >>>> dumb.
>
> >>>> Riding my monkey bike is definitely a ticket to join the Spirits of
> >>>> the Jungle upon death. If something happens to anyone while doing
> >>>> something heroic, just tell the bouncer at the gates of Paradise:
> >>>> "Hey, the TibetanMonkey sent me!"
>
> >>> '60's; profit and loss are the new religion.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> "profit and loss are the new religion". If that is your "belief"
> >> system, then you are so in trouble. And it hasn't a thing to do with
> >> religion, politics....or you.
>
> >> Good luck...
>
> > Yes, it has ALL to do with religion and politics. Politicians "preach"
> > this new faith and you follow and vote. It basically started with
> > Reagan, including Clinton, Bush and why not, even Obama.
>
> You are not wrong, but it is not limited to the US. The whole world
> political system has this religion.
> The mere hint of a negative quarter has any one of them in a panic,
> the religion of positive growth forever is well and truly entrenched.
>
> And it is to be compared to a religion - as it looks me like a blind
> faith on the future.
>
> But this planet we are on is a limited system. It is finite.
> All the atmosphere that this planet will EVER have, at any time into the
> future, is right here right now.
> All the water that this planet will EVER have, at any time into
> the future, is right here right now.
> The same goes for any mineral resources in the crust of the earth.
> Or Any element you care to think of.
>
> Although IMO, we won't hit any level of finite resource in the near
> future yet....maybe another 100years?
>
> but 100years or 1000years.......they are just small fractions of time
> compared to how long this planet will exist and able to support life -
> at least another 200Million years.
>
> How long will the human civilization exist ? 6.8 Billion people and growing.
>
> And Religion is part of the problem too,..... the "be fruitful " etc
> quote from the bible.
>
> Expanding to other planets doesn't really solve much, for example
> you can't just shift 1Billion people to Mars.
> It would however make a difference in the ultimate survivability
> of the human race.
Thank you. You really make my day and make recover faith in Common
Sense. I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that and
not even a Buddhist Monk bent on bliss can't ignore that, even if it
breaks his Karma...
This new religion --perhaps best reflected in Globalization-- is the
worshiping of size and waste as if it was:
"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'
***
I say it hear for all to hear: SMALL IS BETTER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBDQn3Qh1AY
We need practical solutions and this could be a fun alternative to go
out and enjoy the sun, burn some calories and meet people.
MAY THE SUN SHINE UPON YOU! ;)
Forrest Hodge
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
Well, some real people reply to me and then I spread it everywhere.
The system works every time.
This is the system that does NOT work:
Guess what, another cyclist killed within 24 hrs in the same area? Are
drivers trying to drive us into extinction? Of course, pedestrians are
under attack too!
Let's see...
Although police have not yet determined who was at fault in the
accidents, Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Keyla Concepcion urged caution
on the part of motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists.
Bicyclists should follow established guidelines to guarantee their
safety, such as waiting for daylight, said Carlos Laborde, a United
States Cycling Federation official who manages the velodrome bicycle-
racing space for Brian Piccolo Park in Cooper City.
"Riding when it is dark is suicidal," he said. "I tell riders, Sunday
morning may be beautiful for you, but remember that it's still
Saturday night for some drivers."
Laborde called Flamingo Road in particular "a Bermuda Triangle for
bike riders."
Labrode encourages cyclists to ride at parks, where speed limits are
restricted and regulated. And for all to remember: "Bicycle riders are
the weakest ones on the road."
***
So we must go and ride at parks, and how we get to the park? No wonder
you don't find people out there.
I'm telling you our system is not very cleverly designed.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
violence and karma with a Buddhist Monk or follower. Do we have to
learn anything from them? I think their MIND DISCIPLINE is really good
for you, but their approach to justice seems to me as wise as the
Three Wise Monkeys...
On Jan 6, 12:04 am, Vajra <va...@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
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> For some reason my posts are being chopped off. Must be my nagative karma
> ;) So for the third time a response, hopefully in full.
It must be an act of God. ;)
>
> No, someone who trashes the environment is unlikely to gain a high rebirth
> because these are negative actions, regardless of the thought behind them.
> Negative thoughts of anger, hate, greed, etc place negative seeds on the
> mindstream of that person. Yes, killing an animal is a negative act.
> Phyically hurting someone is a negative act. Verbally abusing someone is
> negative speech. Wishing harm to someone is a negative thought. Separating
> the person from the act, we realise that negative actions etc are made out
> of ignorance to the nature of reality. Negative actions are done with the
> intention of making one feel happy. This is inherent ignorance of reality.
> Negative actions bring negative results - perhaps not immediately, but
> eventually negative results will follow. When we realise that all actions
> have a result, we are more mindful of the results of our actions, thoughts
> and speech. But this isn't easy to do.These negative actions etc are so
> ingrained in our minds that we tend to fall into old patterns almost
> without thinking. We need to be mindful. It's hard.
Well, I suffer from it, sometimes too much. But I've found that time
is best medicine. Eventually it will go away. WE DO HAVE A LOT TO
LEARN FROM BUDDHISM, but some questions linger...
Here you are witnessing an injustice against yourself or others, and
you've been fuming over it (bad karma) and then you spring into action
and voila, THE ANIMAL INSTINCTS are unleashed and a tough fight ensues
and you find yourself a winner --where you go to jail-- or a loser and
you wonder what's the point of violence.
What would a Buddhist Monk do in place of the black sheep who's going
hungry and the holy cows are being fed prime grass? Take a bite or
not?
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
try to fix the negative mind, and I try to fix the nonsense outside...
On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Vajra <va...@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
> >Here you are witnessing an injustice against yourself or others, and
> >you've been fuming over it (bad karma) and then you spring into action
> >and voila, THE ANIMAL INSTINCTS are unleashed and a tough fight ensues
> >and you find yourself a winner --where you go to jail-- or a loser and
> >you wonder what's the point of violence.
>
> Well that's right. We know these 'automatic' responses lead to disaster f=
> or
> ourselves and others. We need more appropriate responses using the
> reasoning that the action by the other person is clouded by ignorance of
> cause and effect - the true nature of reality.
True for the most part. Sometimes you just need pepper spray. ;)
I was blasted for riding bike over bridge, where impractical
regulation told me to walk bike on sidewalk --too narrow, then I gave
him the finger and the beast went out of control. Never again. I
better give him a banana! (I carry pepper spray now just in case --
really handy, almost provocative)
>
>
>
> >What would a Buddhist Monk do in place of the black sheep who's going
> >hungry and the holy cows are being fed prime grass? Take a bite or
> >not?
>
> I'm not quite with you there. Can you explain what you mean?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVa2ljkC4gPg
>
> This link didn't work for some reason. Is it correct?
Please try it again...
(Again, the black sheep is Buddhist and he sees this injustice and
wants to take a bite)
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> >> >LEARN FROM BUDDHISM, but some questions linger...
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> >> practice emergency landings only when they have to do one. They get in=
> a
> >> flight simulator and practice over and over until it becomes a natural
> >> reaction to an emergency. Same with us. We sit and bring to mind a typ=
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> >> l
> >> situation where anger arises within us. Feel the anger rising. Watch h=
> ow
> >> that happens. Then go through the appropriate response, when all is ca=
> lm.
> >> This practice will become second nature after a while and when the rea=
> l
> >> situation arises we won't respond with anger as we used to. We'll be a=
> ble
> >> to deal with the situation without anger clouding our thinking.
>
> >> >Here you are witnessing an injustice against yourself or others, and
> n
> >> >and voila, THE ANIMAL INSTINCTS are unleashed and a tough fight ensue=
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> >> >and you find yourself a winner --where you go to jail-- or a loser an=
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> >> >you wonder what's the point of violence.
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> >> or
> >> ourselves and others. We need more appropriate responses using the
> of
> >> cause and effect - the true nature of reality.
>
> >True for the most part. Sometimes you just need pepper spray. ;)
>
Sometimes not. For example, Stalin did a lot of evil and got away with
it. He died of old age. Hitler was not so lucky, but he swallowed the
pill and took the plunge. Quick ticket to Hell. ;)
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>
>
>
>
> >I was blasted for riding bike over bridge, where impractical
> >regulation told me to walk bike on sidewalk --too narrow, then I gave
> >him the finger and the beast went out of control. Never again. I
> >better give him a banana! (I carry pepper spray now just in case --
> >really handy, almost provocative)
>
> >> >What would a Buddhist Monk do in place of the black sheep who's going
> >> >hungry and the holy cows are being fed prime grass? Take a bite or
> >> >not?
>
> >> I'm not quite with you there. Can you explain what you mean?
>
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3DVa2ljkC4gPg
>
> >> This link didn't work for some reason. Is it correct?
>
> >Please try it again...
>
> >(Again, the black sheep is Buddhist and he sees this injustice and
> >wants to take a bite)
>
> Would a Buddhist Monk be upset if he's hungry and sees a cow eating grass=
> ?
> No, he would rejoice that someone is taking good care of a sentient being=
> ,
> the cow.
The black sheep is going hungry where the cows are fat. Does that make
sense?
I understand the inequality of species but some extremes are just mind
blowing. And the fact that the black sheep is kept in a pen too is not
fun.
This is a source of anger and hunger in the world that is not likely
to go away.
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> the prophet of the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Sometimes not. For example, Stalin did a lot of evil and got away with
> >it. He died of old age. Hitler was not so lucky, but he swallowed the
> >pill and took the plunge. Quick ticket to Hell. ;)
>
> Perhaps got away with it in this life. But probably not in the next.
But they act as if this is the only reality. Perhaps we should be able
to produce some punishment to show them. Say a sexual predator rapes a
girl, will he be punished in the next life only?
How about the system derived from taming a beast, ie. REWARD &
PUNISHMENT? (treat & whip)
> >This is a source of anger and hunger in the world that is not likely
> >to go away.
>
> Again, cause and effect are still in play. The first world terrorises the
> third world by treating them like slaves and raping their countries. Some
> of the third world terrorises the first world with suicide bombers. The
> ruling elete think they are beyond cause and effect because they are blin=
> d
> to the connection between their actions and their results.
>
> One day they'll wake up.
A campaign of nonviolence can wake them up now. For example, perhaps
we should undergo a campaign such as "living with peanuts," in which
the poor are taught to live a wholesome happy life with a bicycle and
simple foods --vegetarian only to be even smarter.
The problem is the lion doesn't allow this kind of enlightenment to
take place. Riding a bike is deadly. My next bike ride is coming up
and I'm looking at it with both excitement and fear.
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> >On Jan 8, 10:15 pm, Vajra <va...@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
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> >> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:36:34 -0800 (PST), "His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> >> the prophet of the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Sometimes not. For example, Stalin did a lot of evil and got away with
> >> >it. He died of old age. Hitler was not so lucky, but he swallowed the
> >> >pill and took the plunge. Quick ticket to Hell. ;)
>
> >> Perhaps got away with it in this life. But probably not in the next.
>
> >But they act as if this is the only reality. Perhaps we should be able
> >to produce some punishment to show them. Say a sexual predator rapes a
> >girl, will he be punished in the next life only?
>
> the negative karma is purified it will remain on the mindstream of the
> person until it meets the right causes and conditions. It then ripens into
> the negative karmic result.
We may at least keep them off the streets where they can predate at
will. I've seen the cases of sexual predators come back to their ways
after being released. It's a dangerous gamble.
> >How about the system derived from taming a beast, ie. REWARD &
> >PUNISHMENT? (treat & whip)
>
> Karma is only experienced by the being whose mindstream contains it. I
> cannot experience your positive and negative karma, only mine and vice
> versa.
Yes, but do you see the power of the metaphor? Too much whipping may
send the beast over the edge, and none at all may mean his bad
behavior is rewarded.
The beast may be stupid, but this is primitive instinct to choose the
treat over the whip.
> >> >This is a source of anger and hunger in the world that is not likely
> >> >to go away.
>
> >> Again, cause and effect are still in play. The first world terrorises the
> >> third world by treating them like slaves and raping their countries. Some
> >> of the third world terrorises the first world with suicide bombers. The
> >> ruling elete think they are beyond cause and effect because they are blin=
> >> d
> >> to the connection between their actions and their results.
>
> >> One day they'll wake up.
>
> >A campaign of nonviolence can wake them up now. For example, perhaps
> >we should undergo a campaign such as "living with peanuts," in which
> >the poor are taught to live a wholesome happy life with a bicycle and
> >simple foods --vegetarian only to be even smarter.
>
> Yes, or vegan. There will always be beings who are asleep as there will
> always be beings who are awake. Through the actions, words and thoughts of
> awakened beings, those who are asleep can be awakened. One hopes that the
> number of asleep beings is being reduced through contact with the awakened
> ones.
If the asleep ones won't be alert, they may be in for a rude
awakening.
> >The problem is the lion doesn't allow this kind of enlightenment to
> >take place. Riding a bike is deadly. My next bike ride is coming up
> >and I'm looking at it with both excitement and fear.
>
> Enlightenment happens in spite of, or maybe because of, the lion. Riding a
> bike in the company of cars is a risky business. If car drivers can't see a
> bus, they're unlikely to see a bike!
Yes it is, but it's the only way. Riding on sidewalk is often more
dangerous. Either that or you stay in the cage.
The lion must be alert to this situation so we can all enjoy peace in
the jungle he has created. My proposal is to GIVE THE LANE to the bike
and the cars simply go around him briefly.
But it's all a money jungle.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
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> change we can make is to ourselves. There is no guarantee that anything we
> do will change another being. Even for ourselves, it's very difficult to
> rid ourselves of negative emotions, so what hope for others? They must WANT
> it and WORK towards it.
It is my contention that species put down their defenses outside a
jungle environment. Proof of that is how Northern Europe has
progressed from the depths of barbarism, some as recent as WWII.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> >This is a source of anger and hunger in the world that is not likely
> >> >> >to go away.
>
> >> >> Again, cause and effect are still in play. The first world terrorises the
> >> >> third world by treating them like slaves and raping their countries. Some
> >> >> of the third world terrorises the first world with suicide bombers. The
> >> >> ruling elete think they are beyond cause and effect because they are blin=
> >> >> d
> >> >> to the connection between their actions and their results.
>
> >> >> One day they'll wake up.
>
> >> >A campaign of nonviolence can wake them up now. For example, perhaps
> >> >we should undergo a campaign such as "living with peanuts," in which
> >> >the poor are taught to live a wholesome happy life with a bicycle and
> >> >simple foods --vegetarian only to be even smarter.
>
> >> Yes, or vegan. There will always be beings who are asleep as there will
> >> always be beings who are awake. Through the actions, words and thoughts of
> >> awakened beings, those who are asleep can be awakened. One hopes that the
> >> number of asleep beings is being reduced through contact with the awakened
> >> ones.
>
> >If the asleep ones won't be alert, they may be in for a rude
> >awakening.
>
> Possibly. Or more likely, sleepwalk into the next lower rebirth.
Or extinction of the species.
>
>
>
> >> >The problem is the lion doesn't allow this kind of enlightenment to
> >> >take place. Riding a bike is deadly. My next bike ride is coming up
> >> >and I'm looking at it with both excitement and fear.
>
> >> Enlightenment happens in spite of, or maybe because of, the lion. Riding a
> >> bike in the company of cars is a risky business. If car drivers can't see a
> >> bus, they're unlikely to see a bike!
>
> >Yes it is, but it's the only way. Riding on sidewalk is often more
> >dangerous. Either that or you stay in the cage.
>
> Advocate for more bikeways. Here the local government has built miles of
> bikeways. Most of them lead to the city centre so people can ride to work.
The few they do are short and fancy, like it was made to waste money
and dish out contracts. In the end we are waiting for changes coming
soon, having no idea what it is.
It may mean nothing for bikes on the road or outside the central area.
> >But it's all a money jungle.
>
> Ah, yes. The money delusion.
Here it buys you everything, except space. Yes, they live in Gated
Communities but enjoy little space.
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle
> >It is my contention that species put down their defenses outside a
> >jungle environment. Proof of that is how Northern Europe has
> >progressed from the depths of barbarism, some as recent as WWII.
>
> Yes, possibly. Although some might argue that the barbarism has just
> changed its form.
I'd ask a few practical questions to rate barbarism:
Are road manners the rule and not the exception? They seem to be in
Germany. Not here!
Are the homeless all over the place? Big problem here.
Do women feel safe in parks! Not here! (the homeless are respected,
not women)
Do they respect cyclists? Not here!
It's not an all or nothing scale. There are different degrees.
> >Or extinction of the species.
>
> Correct.
> >It may mean nothing for bikes on the road or outside the central area.
>
> It's a shame the Dutch model hasn't been adopted by more countries.
Yep, I'm trying to sell that system. But the Fat Cats don't care about
bicycles or legalizing pot. They only care about their SUVs and
keeping "all the prohibitions" while the Mexicans are terrorized and
our prisons are overwhelmed.
> >> Ah, yes. The money delusion.
>
> >Here it buys you everything, except space. Yes, they live in Gated
> >Communities but enjoy little space.
>
> Everything except happiness too.
They have beautiful cages overlooking the ocean, but they are still
cages. I've said the other day, "bicycles mean wings for pedestrians"
and I want to fly! A few places to escape to --if you dare to ride the
road!