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sr

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Dec 3, 2009, 6:01:16 PM12/3/09
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POLITICS: Al Gore Cancels Climate Lecture in Copenhagen http://bit.ly/6ViAti


Zee

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:07:51 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 7:01 am, "sr" <solo...@uninets.net> wrote:
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> POLITICS: Al Gore Cancels Climate Lecture in Copenhagenhttp://bit.ly/6ViAti

He's human after all.

jeff

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Dec 4, 2009, 7:05:59 PM12/4/09
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And he wasn't wrong.

Here is the temp chart from Dr Roy Spencer, Limbaugh's expert:

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

Note the distinct upward trend.

Also note that whenever climate change skeptics say that the earth
is cooling, they use the reference point of as the '98 El Nino
temperature spike.

A careful read and you will find that Dr Roy acknowledges that if there
are no negative feedbacks (which there is no real evidence of) but a
positive feedback (which there is evidence of):

Negative feedbacks (low climate sensitivity) would mean that manmade
global warming might not even be measurable, lost in the noise of
natural climate variability. But if feedbacks are sufficiently positive
(high climate sensitivity), then manmade global warming could be
catastrophic.

The best Dr Roy can say is that there are doubts, but if you read his
evidence, it's a point for fear of climate change, indeed much worse
than Al Gore has said.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/library/pics/PDO-and-20th-Century-warming-Fig03.jpg

Jeff

sr

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Dec 5, 2009, 12:52:00 AM12/5/09
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"jeff" <jeff_...@att.net> wrote in message
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Cretaceous Period
144-65 million years ago The continents-while not in their current
positions on the Earth-are shaped much as they are today. South America and
Africa separate, and the Atlantic ocean widens. A circum-equatorial sea,
Tethys, forms between the continents of the Northern and Southern
Hemisphere. The westward movement of North America forms the ancestral Rocky
Mountains and the ancestral Sierra Nevada. Sea levels rise, submerging about
30% of the Earth's present land surface.
The global climate is generally warm. The poles are free of ice.

====So Jeff: Is that why, when the earth had little population, that the
oceans covered the west coast?
and parts of the East Coast? There are sea shells patterns embedded in the
rocks, here in the woods and I'm about
150 miles inland. It wasn't man that caused that water level to rise. And,
it wasn't man's
activities that cause Greenland to be Green . Man has nothing to do with
global warming nor oceans rising, it
is Nature, you imbeciles. You can take statistics and make them say anything
you wish, that is one reason
for this Hoax, other than greed,that is~
BTW,Seems Greed that has always been blamed on the Right is now a
problem for the Left, lately.


sr

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Dec 5, 2009, 1:13:19 AM12/5/09
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"sr" <sol...@uninets.net> wrote in message
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> POLITICS: Al Gore Cancels Climate Lecture in Copenhagen

> Michigan sees record snow...
DC Under Winter Weather Advisory...

Al Gore could not be reached for comment

>


RickMerrill

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Dec 5, 2009, 11:23:31 AM12/5/09
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You DO realize that in those millions of years the LAND itself has risen?!

sr

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Dec 5, 2009, 1:07:47 PM12/5/09
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That's the point Mother Nature, not man
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jeff

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:51:40 PM12/8/09
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sr wrote:
> That's the point Mother Nature, not man

Which has absolutely zippo to do with man made CO2 warming.

Even Rush's whacko admits that. Do you think that mother nature added
all that CO2?

The remarkable thing about George W Bush and Republicans in general
is that ignorance of doing anything other than kicking the can down the
road. Why all the fear of actually tackling a problem? Your "solution:"
seems to be wait eons for mother nature to exterminate man and fix the
problem.

Jeff

jeff

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:58:23 PM12/8/09
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Such a simple minded ignorance of global average temperatures. The
earth is warming more at the poles and jet stream and weather patterns
are changing because of that. Did you really think that everywhere was
going to be .1 degree warmer than last year?

This will be the earths warmest year in recent history.

Jeff
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sr

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Dec 8, 2009, 10:38:31 PM12/8/09
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"jeff" <jeff_...@att.net> wrote in message
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your eyes must be Brown, and you are a dummy, I've lived through 4 of this
climate Hoaxes
Look up the one in the mid 70s that was the ice age, Science Mag was the
biggest promoter, and Newsweek

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sr

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Dec 8, 2009, 10:39:19 PM12/8/09
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Bush didn't for the fraud.
Obama the manchild has

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sr

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Dec 8, 2009, 11:00:35 PM12/8/09
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"jeff" <jeff_...@att.net> wrote in message
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Where are you living, couldn't be in the midwest, if you are, sharpen your
snowshov>>


sr

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Dec 8, 2009, 11:22:08 PM12/8/09
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Bush, thank God, didn't fall for the fraud
Obama the manchild has fallen for the fraud
altho' a Dem. Senator, told Obama not to make any commentments to the Global
warming crowd.
There are big Names that are going to make Billions off the back
of you and me and others.
Goldman Satch, GE, and all the Lib organizations , Gore, by nickle and
diming us to death.
======if you hold a job, and the gov. wants a dime for this regulation, a
nickle for that regulation because of climate warming,
whatever, you are working for the government, not for your private self.
===========Now, if you are on the dole, you will root for the
Government========= At some point there won't be
enought people to keep people like you, so than, who will you turn to, is
the question
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sr

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Dec 9, 2009, 1:33:30 AM12/9/09
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BREAKING: Over 140 scientists challenge UN's climate claims in open letter
http://bit.ly/4XMXqg #climategate

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Napoleon

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Dec 9, 2009, 9:41:29 AM12/9/09
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On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:51:40 -0500, jeff <jeff_...@att.net> wrote:

>Your "solution:"
>seems to be wait eons for mother nature to exterminate man and fix the
>problem.

That will happen, and what's wrong with that? Man isn't destined to be
on this planet forever. We are a species and should become extinct
just as much as the dodo bird.

jeff

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Dec 10, 2009, 10:41:03 AM12/10/09
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sr wrote:
> Bush didn't for the fraud.
Bush fell for absolutely everything he wanted to believe.

You have provided absolutely no proof that man made CO2 contributes
to global warming, and you can't.

Jeff

jeff

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Dec 10, 2009, 10:50:26 AM12/10/09
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sr wrote:
> ClimateScam
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> BREAKING: Over 140 scientists challenge UN's climate claims in open letter
> http://bit.ly/4XMXqg #climategate

Did you miss the summation:

"It is not the responsibility of �climate realist� scientists to prove
that dangerous human-caused climate change is not happening."

Even they don't deny that climate change is being driven my human
driven CO2, they just say we should do nothing about it.

What this all boils down to is large corporations not wanting to make
an investment. Don't hurt the Republican base.

The same type arguments were pushed against tobacco, Freon, seat
belts and many more things we now accept as being life and earth savers.

Jeff

jeff

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Dec 10, 2009, 11:07:18 AM12/10/09
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Do you really think that colder in one place does not mean that the
average temperature of the earth is not rising? Miami, today, set a
record high.

There is nothing incompatible with unusual weather and global
warming. Indeed global warming predicts unusual weather, be it unusual
highs or unusual lows. The steering currents of the jet stream are
altered by the increased warming of the poles.

El Nino, PDO and other natural earth processes will always affect the
climate, but the inexorable truth is that CO2 is driving the underlaying
long term rise in earth temps. No scientist, even those in the pocket of
those who wish to do nothing, deny that. Not even the chief do nothinger
Dr Roy Spencer.

It's hard not to look back on 8 years of George W Bush kicking the
can down the road and say, "None of this is the fault of Conservative
Republicans". But you do. Insanity is believing that doing more of what
failed will have a different result. But that appears to be what you
believe. Less regulation and let Big Corporations decide what is right.

Even many Fortune 500 Companies believe that now is the time to
tackle CO2. The whole house of cards you believe in is crumbling.

Now, you'll counter with the next headline that you believe because
it fits what you want.

Jeff


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clams_casino

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Dec 10, 2009, 11:37:42 AM12/10/09
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jeff wrote:

> sr wrote:
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>> Bush didn't for the fraud.
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> Bush fell for absolutely everything he wanted to believe.
>
> You have provided absolutely no proof that man made CO2 contributes
> to global warming, and you can't.
>
> Jeff
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Rush alone blows out enough CO2 each day to be an environmental concern.

Gene S. Berkowitz

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Dec 13, 2009, 11:19:17 PM12/13/09
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In article <uldvh5la188bdihir...@4ax.com>, anarch@
666yes.net says...

The dodo was driven to extinction by the actions of man, who
found them edible, and the predators introduced by man to the
dodo's home of Mauritius wiped out their nests.

--Gene

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