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Energy Saver

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Nov 16, 2008, 6:17:45 AM11/16/08
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Driving and Car Maintenance Transportation accounts for 66% of U.S.
oil use -mainly in the form of gasoline. Luckily, there are plenty of
ways to improve gas mileage.

Driving Tips:- Idling gets you 0 miles per gallon. The best way to
warm up a vehicle is to drive it. No more than 30 seconds of idling
on
winter days is needed. Anything more simply wastes fuel and increases
emissions.- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and
hard
braking) wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas mileage 33% and
city mileage 5%. Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are
enough; you can save up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven at the
4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5 times less
fuel consumption.- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65
mph, could cut your fuel economy by 15%.- When you use overdrive
gearing, your cars engine speed goes down. This saves gas and reduces
wear.- Use air conditioning only when necessary.- Clear out your car;
extra weight decreases gas mileage. Each 60 pounds increases fuel
consumption by 10%. - Reduce drag by placing items inside
the car or trunk rather than on roof racks. A roof rack or carrier
provides additional cargo space and may allow you to buy a smaller
car. However, a loaded roof rack can decrease your fuel economy by
5%.- Check into carpooling and public transit to cut mileage and car
maintenance costs.


Car Maintenance Tips:- Use the grade of motor oil recommended by your
cars manufacturer. Using a different motor oil can lower your
gasoline
mileage by 1% to 2%.- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to
improve your gasoline mileage by around 3.3%.- Get regular engine
tune-
ups and car maintenance checks to avoid fuel economy problems due to
worn spark plugs, dragging brakes, low transmission fluid, or
transmission problems.- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas
mileage by as much as 10% and protect your engine.- Combine errands
into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken from a cold start,
can use twice as much fuel as one trip covering the same distance
when
the engine is warm. Do not forget that in the first mile your car
uses
8 times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal.Long-Term Savings Tip- Consider buying
a
highly fuel-efficient vehicle. A fuelefficient vehicle, a hybrid
vehicle, or an alternative fuel vehicle could save you a lot at the
gas pump
and help the environment.See the Fuel Economy Guide
(www.fueleconomy.gov) for more on buying a new fuel-efficient car or
truck.


Source:
www.eere.energy.gov and
http://www.vcd.org/155.html

Al Bundy

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Nov 16, 2008, 11:23:47 AM11/16/08
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Energy Saver wrote:
Thanks for the PSA. Anyone without Alzheimer's can remember these
things.

corg...@gmail.com

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Nov 18, 2008, 10:34:58 PM11/18/08
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the air conditioning myth has already been tested and debunked. you
save a negligible amount of fuel, and the change in your car's
aerodynamics caused by your open windows increases drag, which
increases fuel consumption.

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Don Klipstein

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:19:50 PM11/18/08
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In <383a2b57-a9b6-469d...@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
corg...@gmail.com wrote:
>On Nov 16, 7:17 pm, Energy Saver <saving.energy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>><In short, a bunch of fuel-saving tips>

>
>the air conditioning myth has already been tested and debunked. you
>save a negligible amount of fuel, and the change in your car's
>aerodynamics caused by your open windows increases drag, which
>increases fuel consumption.

I have noticed a significant difference in fuel consumption between A/C
on and A/C off. It appears to me that A/C on increases fuel consumption
about 10% in "average or conservative driving". The percentage is
probably less for those who drive faster, due to greater fuel consumption
for overcoming air resistance or heating the brakes.

One does not need to open windows (which actually does significantly
degrade fuel economy at expressway speeds) to get a breeze in most cars:
Merely use the ventillation function of the climate control system!

If a 98 degree F breeze through open windows feels cool, then a 98
degree F breeze blown in by the fan should be not much worse!

>Evil overlord of <SNIP>

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

meow...@care2.com

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Nov 19, 2008, 9:12:34 AM11/19/08
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Energy Saver wrote:

> Driving and Car Maintenance Transportation accounts for 66% of U.S.
> oil use -mainly in the form of gasoline. Luckily, there are plenty of
> ways to improve gas mileage.
>
> Driving Tips:- Idling gets you 0 miles per gallon. The best way to
> warm up a vehicle is to drive it. No more than 30 seconds of idling
> on
> winter days is needed. Anything more simply wastes fuel and increases
> emissions.- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and
> hard
> braking) wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas mileage 33% and
> city mileage 5%.

> Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are
> enough; you can save up to 30%.

Anyone who think thats more important than responding to the
requirements of the road and surrounding traffic worries me. Maybe it
would work better in US on long empty roads, here such a driver would
be an absolute menace, and risk prosecution.

> Even a Porsche can be driven at the
> 4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5 times less
> fuel consumption.- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65
> mph, could cut your fuel economy by 15%.- When you use overdrive
> gearing, your cars engine speed goes down. This saves gas and reduces
> wear.- Use air conditioning only when necessary.- Clear out your car;
> extra weight decreases gas mileage. Each 60 pounds increases fuel
> consumption by 10%. - Reduce drag by placing items inside
> the car or trunk rather than on roof racks.

roof racks are normally only used when putting it inside the vehicle
is not practical.

> A roof rack or carrier
> provides additional cargo space and may allow you to buy a smaller
> car. However, a loaded roof rack can decrease your fuel economy by
> 5%.-

Occasionally. And owning a smaller car decreases fuel use by how much
all the time?

> Check into carpooling and public transit to cut mileage

car pooling increases mileage, unless everyone in the pool lives at
the same address.

> and car
> maintenance costs.
>
>
> Car Maintenance Tips:- Use the grade of motor oil recommended by your
> cars manufacturer. Using a different motor oil can lower your
> gasoline
> mileage by 1% to 2%.

again there are more important issues. If your engine needs a grade of
oil other than the mfr recommends, as some worn engines do, and many
engines operated in temperature extremes do, you dont gain by sticking
to the recommendations, you just end up burning oil, wasting resources
and polluting, or in the case of cold climates waste fuel and increase
engine wear, wasting resources.


> - Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to
> improve your gasoline mileage by around 3.3%.-

> Get regular engine
> tune-
> ups and car maintenance checks to avoid fuel economy problems due to
> worn spark plugs, dragging brakes, low transmission fluid, or
> transmission problems.- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas
> mileage by as much as 10% and protect your engine.

These tips (all except binding brakes) apply to mechanically governed
cars. New cars havent been mechanically governed for many years now.

> - Combine errands
> into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken from a cold start,
> can use twice as much fuel as one trip covering the same distance
> when
> the engine is warm. Do not forget that in the first mile your car
> uses
> 8 times more fuel,

as if

> in the second mile 4 times and only after the
> fourth mile it becomes normal.Long-Term Savings Tip- Consider buying
> a
> highly fuel-efficient vehicle. A fuelefficient vehicle, a hybrid
> vehicle, or an alternative fuel vehicle could save you a lot at the
> gas pump

alt fuels are alt fuels precisely because they dont. If they did we'd
all be using them.


NT

Lou

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Nov 19, 2008, 8:42:30 PM11/19/08
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<corg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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(snipped)

>the air conditioning myth has already been tested and debunked. you
>save a negligible amount of fuel, and the change in your car's
>aerodynamics caused by your open windows increases drag, which
>increases fuel consumption.

On the contrary - tests conducted by the SAE have shown that air
conditioning in general use more gas than rolling down the windows, on the
test vehicles at any rate. See
http://www.sae.org/events/aars/presentations/2004-hill.pdf for instance - I
think the most telling part is the graphs on pages 14 and 15.


The Real Bev

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Nov 20, 2008, 12:06:25 AM11/20/08
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Lou wrote:

> On the contrary - tests conducted by the SAE have shown that air
> conditioning in general use more gas than rolling down the windows, on the
> test vehicles at any rate. See
> http://www.sae.org/events/aars/presentations/2004-hill.pdf for instance - I
> think the most telling part is the graphs on pages 14 and 15.

I don't trust what somebody writes who isn't smart enough to hire a
proofreader for the title page.

--
Cheers,
Bev
=================================================================
"There's an apocryphal (I hope not !) story about a Bristol bike
thief found cold, wet and bedraggled one morning, D locked by the
neck to a local bridge." -- Anon

Lou

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Nov 20, 2008, 8:17:32 PM11/20/08
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"The Real Bev" <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lou wrote:
>
> > On the contrary - tests conducted by the SAE have shown that air
> > conditioning in general use more gas than rolling down the windows, on
the
> > test vehicles at any rate. See
> > http://www.sae.org/events/aars/presentations/2004-hill.pdf for
instance - I
> > think the most telling part is the graphs on pages 14 and 15.
>
> I don't trust what somebody writes who isn't smart enough to hire a
> proofreader for the title page.
>

Well, to my mind it should be "effect" not "affect". But Webster's defines
affect as "to produce an effect upon" and for usage directs us to "see
EFFECT", so I guess the word choice isn't actually incorrect. I think the
title is rather awkwardly phrased, but hey, they're engineers not literary
giants, and I think the intended meaning comes across without difficulty.
And there's the old saw about not judging a book by it's cover, which
probably could stand a little updating to bring it up to date in the digital
age.

Or did you have some other critique of the title page?


The Real Bev

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Nov 20, 2008, 9:42:20 PM11/20/08
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Lou wrote:

> "The Real Bev" <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lou wrote:
>>
>>> On the contrary - tests conducted by the SAE have shown that air
>>> conditioning in general use more gas than rolling down the
>>> windows, on the test vehicles at any rate. See
>>> http://www.sae.org/events/aars/presentations/2004-hill.pdf for
>>> instance - I think the most telling part is the graphs on pages
>>> 14 and 15.
>>
>> I don't trust what somebody writes who isn't smart enough to hire a
>> proofreader for the title page.
>>
> Well, to my mind it should be "effect" not "affect". But Webster's
> defines affect as "to produce an effect upon" and for usage directs
> us to "see EFFECT", so I guess the word choice isn't actually
> incorrect. I think the title is rather awkwardly phrased, but hey,
> they're engineers not literary giants,

Doesn't matter. I used to work next to a PhD who wrote learned papers
in which he would make up new words -- which he asked me to spell for
him. In my book he got extra points for that.

> and I think the intended
> meaning comes across without difficulty. And there's the old saw
> about not judging a book by it's cover, which probably could stand a
> little updating to bring it up to date in the digital age.
>
> Or did you have some other critique of the title page?

No, that was it. I'm becoming sensitized to this stuff. Even our local
newspaper headlines use an apostrophe to make a noun plural. People
used to think that using English correctly was important. Some still
do. In my experience, people who screw up the language screw up the
facts and the interpretations.

If you're smart enough you realize there are things you don't know and
try to find some remedy -- like hiring a proofreader. Come on, isn't
the Chinese spam more annoying because they didn't even bother to find a
native English speaker to look at their spew?

--
Cheers,
Bev
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Do not try to solve all life's problems at once -- learn to
dread each day as it comes. -- Donald Kaul

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 21, 2008, 10:44:36 AM11/21/08
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On Nov 20, 8:17 pm, "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:df6Vk.21905$9Z6....@newsfe01.iad...

>
> > Lou wrote:
>
> > > On the contrary - tests conducted by the SAE have shown that air
> > > conditioning in general use more gas than rolling down the windows, on
> the
> > > test vehicles at any rate.  See
> > >http://www.sae.org/events/aars/presentations/2004-hill.pdffor
> instance - I
> > > think the most telling part is the graphs on pages 14 and 15.
>
> > I don't trust what somebody writes who isn't smart enough to hire a
> > proofreader for the title page.
>
> Well, to my mind it should be "effect" not "affect".  But Webster's defines
> affect as "to produce an effect upon" and for usage directs us to "see
> EFFECT", so I guess the word choice isn't actually incorrect.

It should be "effect". The noun "affect" is typically only used by
psychologists.
The dictionary definition you quote is for the verb rather than the
noun.

However, this isn't alt.usage.english...

Cindy Hamilton,
tired old copyeditor

Lou

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Nov 21, 2008, 7:09:01 PM11/21/08
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"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 8:17 pm, "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:df6Vk.21905$9Z6....@newsfe01.iad...
>
> > Lou wrote:
>
> > > On the contrary - tests conducted by the SAE have shown that air
> > > conditioning in general use more gas than rolling down the windows, on
> the
> > > test vehicles at any rate. See
> > >http://www.sae.org/events/aars/presentations/2004-hill.pdffor
> instance - I
> > > think the most telling part is the graphs on pages 14 and 15.
>
> > I don't trust what somebody writes who isn't smart enough to hire a
> > proofreader for the title page.
>
> Well, to my mind it should be "effect" not "affect". But Webster's defines
> affect as "to produce an effect upon" and for usage directs us to "see
> EFFECT", so I guess the word choice isn't actually incorrect.

>It should be "effect". The noun "affect" is typically only used by
>psychologists.

And engineers, apparently. I routinely see enough confusion of usuage to
make me think most people consider the two words synonymous.

>The dictionary definition you quote is for the verb rather than the
>noun.

Well, duh. Isn't that implicit in the definition - "to produce . . ."?

>However, this isn't alt.usage.english...

Indeed it is not. And none of this fuss over the title page alters the
conclusion of the cited document - after careful testing, the evidence
supports the contention that using a vehicle's air conditioning uses more
gasoline than rolling down the windows.

clams_casino

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Nov 21, 2008, 7:39:41 PM11/21/08
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Lou wrote:

>
>
>Indeed it is not. And none of this fuss over the title page alters the
>conclusion of the cited document - after careful testing, the evidence
>supports the contention that using a vehicle's air conditioning uses more
>gasoline than rolling down the windows.
>
>
>
>
>

From what I recall, it depends greatly on the speed. While city
driving, air resistance is greatly reduced vs. interstate driving.

aine...@gmail.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:13:16 AM11/25/08
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what about rid a bicycle..
thats the best way ever to save the fuel n environment..

xoxo,
aineecumi

neway, my secret to release tension is playing this game <a

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