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Logic316

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Jun 3, 2007, 11:59:12 PM6/3/07
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Hi folks,
I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday because they
were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible to
restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having to
throw them away and buy new ones? I remember reading somewhere that you can
do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that never worked for me.

Thanks!

Logic316


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into it."
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Rod Speed

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Jun 4, 2007, 12:02:27 AM6/4/07
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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote

> Hi folks,

Lo folky,

> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday
> because they were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible to restore the
> edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having to throw them away and buy new ones?

Nope.

> I remember reading somewhere that you can do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that
> never worked for me.

The problem is that they perish and nothing will reverse that.


The Real Bev

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Jun 4, 2007, 12:19:17 AM6/4/07
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Rod Speed wrote:

Especially in smogville. That being said, a set of Triple-edge blades
lasted for at least five years and went to the wrecker along with the car.

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Logic316

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I'm not quite convinced of that. I noticed there's a patent for a
"windshield wiper sharpening device" which can be seen at
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5359776.html although I can't find anybody
selling this kind of tool. I imagine that with sufficient time and
weathering the rubber itself would internally deteriorate and eventually
"perish", as you put it, but when a wiper blade becomes worn it's only
damaged on the very edge and the rest of the rubber is still smooth and
supple. So it's not inconceivable that the right tool/method should be able
to remove the tiny burrs from the edge and smooth it out.

- Logic316


"If your main parachute fouls, deploy your reserve. If your reserve is also
fouled, you have the rest of your life to get it straightened out."

Logic316

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Jun 4, 2007, 12:35:34 AM6/4/07
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"The Real Bev" <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > The problem is that they perish and nothing will reverse that.
>
> Especially in smogville. That being said, a set of Triple-edge blades
> lasted for at least five years and went to the wrecker along with the car.


Thanks for the tip, but I'm a little leery of those double/triple bladed
wipers. Laminated windshield glass seems a lot softer than it used to be,
and I'm afraid of having haze marks prematurely worn into the glass from
using more rubber blades.

- Logic316


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property that they may more perfectly respect it."
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Rod Speed

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Jun 4, 2007, 1:17:12 AM6/4/07
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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote

>>> Hi folks,

>> Lo folky,

>>> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday
>>> because they were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way
>>> it's possible to restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or
>>> twice before having to throw them away and buy new ones?

>> Nope.

>>> I remember reading somewhere that you can do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but
>>> that never worked for me.

>> The problem is that they perish and nothing will reverse that.

> I'm not quite convinced of that. I noticed there's a patent for a "windshield wiper sharpening
> device" which can be seen at http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5359776.html

There's patents for all sorts of crap that never
did fly, including perpertual motion machines too.

> although I can't find anybody selling this kind of tool.

There might just be a reason for that.

> I imagine that with sufficient time and weathering the rubber itself would internally deteriorate
> and eventually "perish", as you put it, but when a wiper blade becomes worn it's only damaged on
> the very edge and the rest of the rubber is still smooth and supple.

The problem is that its the edge thats perished.

> So it's not inconceivable that the right tool/method should be able to remove the tiny burrs from
> the edge and smooth it out.

Nope, because its perished there.


SJF

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Jun 4, 2007, 1:29:12 AM6/4/07
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"Logic316" <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday because
> they were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible
> to restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having
> to throw them away and buy new ones? I remember reading somewhere that you
> can do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that never worked
> for me.
>
> Thanks!

I take the wiper blades off and scrub the rubber (?) edge lightly under the
faucet with a Brillo pad. This can be done a number of times as routine
maintenance when they get to the point where they don't clean well. They
will eventually need to be replaced, depending on how long you keep the car.

SJF


Logic316

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Jun 4, 2007, 12:01:20 PM6/4/07
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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> There's patents for all sorts of crap that never
> did fly, including perpertual motion machines too.

You mean those things really don't work? Well, there goes my day.


>> although I can't find anybody selling this kind of tool.
>
> There might just be a reason for that.

Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores would
rather make more money off us by selling us more wiper blades. Selling such
a money-saving tool would probably just not be in their best interest.


>> I imagine that with sufficient time and weathering the rubber itself
>> would internally deteriorate and eventually "perish", as you put it, but
>> when a wiper blade becomes worn it's only damaged on the very edge and
>> the rest of the rubber is still smooth and supple.
>
> The problem is that its the edge thats perished.

So you remove the perished edge, give it a proper burial, and create a new
edge.


>> So it's not inconceivable that the right tool/method should be able to
>> remove the tiny burrs from the edge and smooth it out.
>
> Nope, because its perished there.

Something tells me you have an entirely too negative outlook on everything,
Rod. I would rather try and fail through experimentation than just assume
that a theory has no merit. Perish the thought that one might actually want
to roll up his sleeves and put some work into an idea.

- Logic316


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he knows nothing about everything.

A SCIENTIST is someone who knows more and more about less and less, until he
knows everything about nothing."

Logic316

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"SJF" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> I take the wiper blades off and scrub the rubber (?) edge lightly under
> the faucet with a Brillo pad. This can be done a number of times as
> routine maintenance when they get to the point where they don't clean
> well. They will eventually need to be replaced, depending on how long you
> keep the car.
>
> SJF

Thanks, I'll give the Brillo a shot. I'm now thinking that maybe the 400
grit sandpaper I used wasn't fine enough, so maybe other grades would do the
job. I also wouldn't recommend anyone buying Bosch windshield wiper blades.
For me, they seem to wear out faster than any other brand.

- Logic316


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beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."
-- Ronald Reagan


Bob's Backfire Burrito

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Jun 4, 2007, 12:48:13 PM6/4/07
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"Logic316" <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday because
> they were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible
> to restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having
> to throw them away and buy new ones? I remember reading somewhere that you
> can do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that never worked
> for me.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Logic316

All this for a pair of $3.49 wiper blades hahahahaha
I guess your "time" is worth nothing.

Rick

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Jun 4, 2007, 2:44:16 PM6/4/07
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This is silly. Beyond friction from being in use, rubber & vinyl
disentegrate with exposure to the elements. By the time they have worn
to the point that they don't work well, scraping a little bit off the
edge of the wiper blade may make them work - for another five minutes.
And unless you can "sight" the exact curve of that rubber edge while
trying to do this, chances are you will make the problem even worse when
you end up with a more uneven edge than what you started with. Actually,
using sandpaper on them is pretty much guaranteed to weaken the blade by
breaking it down even more.

Just bite the bullet and replace them as needed. This IS a safety issue.
There's nothing worse that streaking up your windshield when you hit the
button for the windshield cleaner and end up with a mess worse that you
started with because the wipers are shot. Especially at 65 miles an
hour.

Rick

Rod Speed

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Jun 4, 2007, 3:49:53 PM6/4/07
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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5chlh9F...@mid.individual.net...
>
>> There's patents for all sorts of crap that never
>> did fly, including perpertual motion machines too.
>
> You mean those things really don't work? Well, there goes my day.
>
>
>>> although I can't find anybody selling this kind of tool.
>>
>> There might just be a reason for that.

> Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores
> would rather make more money off us by selling us more wiper blades.
> Selling such a money-saving tool would probably just not be in their
> best interest.

Usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

>>> I imagine that with sufficient time and weathering the rubber itself
>>> would internally deteriorate and eventually "perish", as you put
>>> it, but when a wiper blade becomes worn it's only damaged on the
>>> very edge and the rest of the rubber is still smooth and supple.

>> The problem is that its the edge thats perished.

> So you remove the perished edge, give it a proper burial, and create a new edge.

Not even possible, its the thin strip that perishes and its gone when removed.

>>> So it's not inconceivable that the right tool/method should be able
>>> to remove the tiny burrs from the edge and smooth it out.

>> Nope, because its perished there.

> Something tells me you have an entirely too negative outlook on
> everything, Rod. I would rather try and fail through experimentation
> than just assume that a theory has no merit. Perish the thought that
> one might actually want to roll up his sleeves and put some work into
> an idea.

You're always welcome to waste your time.

Some of us have enough of a clue to work out what things cant work and what things can.


val189

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Jun 4, 2007, 4:40:33 PM6/4/07
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I treat my car windows with Rain-X and rarely use the wipers. Can't
think of the last time I replaced the blades.

Bob F

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"Logic316" <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "SJF" <no...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:JqN8i.449748$6P2.1...@newsfe16.phx...
>
>> I take the wiper blades off and scrub the rubber (?) edge lightly
>> under the faucet with a Brillo pad. This can be done a number of
>> times as routine maintenance when they get to the point where they
>> don't clean well. They will eventually need to be replaced,
>> depending on how long you keep the car.
>>
>> SJF
>
> Thanks, I'll give the Brillo a shot. I'm now thinking that maybe the
> 400 grit sandpaper I used wasn't fine enough, so maybe other grades
> would do the job. I also wouldn't recommend anyone buying Bosch
> windshield wiper blades. For me, they seem to wear out faster than
> any other brand.
>

I've never needed to use brillo. I just take a paper towel when I
clean the windshield, get it wet with cleaning solution, squeeze it on
each side of the blade, and slide it back and forth along the blade to
clean the surface. Then it works like new, for many years. In Seattle,
where they do get used.

Bob


Bob F

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Jun 4, 2007, 5:12:48 PM6/4/07
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"val189" <gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>I treat my car windows with Rain-X and rarely use the wipers. Can't
> think of the last time I replaced the blades.

I tried that once, and after a vouple of months, there were black
"film" areas on the windshield that were very hard to scrub off. It
seemed like the Rain-X was disolving the wiper.

Bob


pj

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Jun 4, 2007, 7:57:28 AM6/4/07
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I bought a set of triple edge for myself and another pair for my neighbor
many years ago - they were AWFUL. Right out of the box both set were very
streaky (and they were darned expensive back then). I have no idea how long
they would last, they were SO bad we both removed and returned them right
away.

Something I've found that makes a new set last longer and clean better is to
wipe down the blade with a wet paper towel to remove the dirt and oils it
has collected. I do this at every fuel stop. I think if you did this you
probably wouldn't have to worry about your haze marks - they are probably
from the dirt collected in the blades rather than from the blades
themselves.


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clams casino

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pj wrote:

>I bought a set of triple edge for myself and another pair for my neighbor
>many years ago - they were AWFUL. Right out of the box both set were very
>streaky (and they were darned expensive back then).
>

That was my experience as well.


>
>Something I've found that makes a new set last longer and clean better is to
>wipe down the blade with a wet paper towel to remove the dirt and oils it
>has collected.
>

The dirt / oils are chemically deteriorating the rubber (pitting the
surface). Periodically cleaning / wiping off the wipers should help
their life where the deterioration is non reversible.

A lot will depend on where you live with air pollutants being a
significant factor, along with the oil & road crap thrown up onto the
windshield in rain storms.

Logan Shaw

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Jun 4, 2007, 10:27:17 PM6/4/07
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Logic316 wrote:
> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday because they
> were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible to
> restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having to
> throw them away and buy new ones? I remember reading somewhere that you can
> do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that never worked for me.

If you're not already doing it, buy wiper inserts rather than new blades.
Blades are the plastic and/or metal frame thing. Inserts are just the
rubber parts. The rubber part is what really wears out, so it's the only
part you really need to replace. As a bonus, the replacement blades you
get often don't fit as well as the factory ones, so if you go with the
cheaper option of just replacing the inserts and you keep the factory
blades, you spend less money and they work better.

- Logan

Logan Shaw

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Jun 4, 2007, 10:33:52 PM6/4/07
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Logic316 wrote:
> I imagine that with sufficient time and
> weathering the rubber itself would internally deteriorate and eventually
> "perish", as you put it, but when a wiper blade becomes worn it's only
> damaged on the very edge and the rest of the rubber is still smooth and
> supple.

It probably depends on the climate how fast that happens. Here in Texas,
and I'm sure in other places where it's hot and you get a lot of sun, the
rubber tends to dry out pretty quickly. It's a good rule of thumb that
if something rubber is going to fail on a car in Texas, it will probably
happen during the summer. Or conversely, expect to need to replace
something rubber (belt, hose, wiper, trim piece, whatever) every summer
or two.

- Logan

A Veteran

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Jun 4, 2007, 11:40:25 PM6/4/07
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In article <4664cb90$0$3265$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
Logan Shaw <lshaw-...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

we use Rain-X and change wiper inserts at the beginning of the rainey
season, because the sun bakes and ages them during a time when it does
not rain here at all. N.CA.
I have been known to scrape a blade with my pen knife to "clean" it.

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

Rod Speed

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Jun 4, 2007, 11:33:51 PM6/4/07
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The climate here is virtually identical to texas except
warmer in winter and we dont get anything like that last.


Logic316

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"clams casino" <PeterG...@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
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> pj wrote:

>>Something I've found that makes a new set last longer and clean better is
>>to wipe down the blade with a wet paper towel to remove the dirt and oils
>>it has collected.
>
> The dirt / oils are chemically deteriorating the rubber (pitting the
> surface). Periodically cleaning / wiping off the wipers should help their
> life where the deterioration is non reversible.

Good point. I have cleaned my wipers once in a rare while, and it did
noticably improve their performance afterwards. It's amazing how much black
crap comes off those things. I'll just have to do it more often and then I
won't have to change them as much.

- Logic316


"A diplomat thinks twice before saying nothing."


Logic316

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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores
>> would rather make more money off us by selling us more wiper blades.
>> Selling such a money-saving tool would probably just not be in their
>> best interest.
>
> Usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

Nope, just good old-fashioned capitalism. I would say the majority of the
driving public is just too damn lazy and wasteful to sharpen their own wiper
blades to be much interested in buying such a tool. I don't see it as a
conspiracy. If I ran an auto supply store, I would probably look at the
overall cost/benefit of it and see no particular reason in keeping such an
item on my shelf. But that doesn't mean it doesn't work, or can't be useful
for some people.


>> So you remove the perished edge, give it a proper burial, and create a
>> new edge.
>
> Not even possible, its the thin strip that perishes and its gone when
> removed.

The entire strip rots? Doesn't that depend on how old and weathered it is?
I'm willing to bet that in most cases the very edge deteriorates long before
the rest of the strip does.


> You're always welcome to waste your time.

Oh, I'm so glad I have your permission.


> Some of us have enough of a clue to work out what things cant work and
> what things can.

Nice boilerplate, Rod. Perhaps people would respect your opinions if you
weren't so curt and dogmatic, and actually bothered to explain your reasons
for them.

- Logic316


"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
-- Vice President Al Gore, 9/22/97


Logic316

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"Rick" <rick...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> This is silly.

Saving money is never silly, so long as it's worth the time and effort.


Beyond friction from being in use, rubber & vinyl
> disentegrate with exposure to the elements.

That all depends where and what conditions you're driving/storing the car
under. I'm in New York for example - not exactly arid conditions, so my
wipers wear out long before they have a chance to harden and dry out.


> And unless you can "sight" the exact curve of that rubber edge while
> trying to do this, chances are you will make the problem even worse when
> you end up with a more uneven edge than what you started with.

Then the trick is to use a grade of sandpaper fine enough, and to use a
small piece while applying even pressure along the length of the blade to
keep it even. Shouldn't be too hard.


Actually,
> using sandpaper on them is pretty much guaranteed to weaken the blade by
> breaking it down even more.

If you're talking about 1000+ grit, it's doing little more than cleaning the
crap of the rubber. We're not talking any damage here.


> This IS a safety issue.
> There's nothing worse that streaking up your windshield when you hit the
> button for the windshield cleaner and end up with a mess worse that you
> started with because the wipers are shot. Especially at 65 miles an
> hour.

Come now, no need to be such an alarmist. No halfway-decent driver should
get into an accident just because his wipers start streaking a tad.

- Logic316


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Rod Speed

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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
> clams casino <PeterG...@drunkin-clam.com> wrote
>> pj wrote

>>> Something I've found that makes a new set last longer and clean better is to wipe down the blade
>>> with a wet paper towel to remove the dirt and oils it has collected.

>> The dirt / oils are chemically deteriorating the rubber (pitting the surface).

Nope, its the blade perishing.

>> Periodically cleaning / wiping off the wipers should help their life where the deterioration is
>> non reversible.

> Good point. I have cleaned my wipers once in a rare while, and it did noticably improve their
> performance afterwards. It's amazing how much black crap comes off those things.

That's the result of them perishing.

> I'll just have to do it more often and then I won't have to change them as much.

Fantasy, you will have to change them just as often.


Logic316

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"Bob's Backfire Burrito" <BLAMPOW!@pullmyfinger.org> wrote in message
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> All this for a pair of $3.49 wiper blades hahahahaha
> I guess your "time" is worth nothing.

And why should anybody have to pay $3.49 (or even 1 dollar) to replace a
product, if a quick swipe of a cheap piece of sandpaper/brillo pad could
make it last significantly longer?

You do realize you're in a newsgroup that pertains to people saving money,
right Bob?

- Logic316


"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."


Rod Speed

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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores would rather make more

>>> money off us by selling us more wiper blades. Selling such a money-saving tool would probably
>>> just not be in their best interest.

>> Usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

> Nope, just good old-fashioned capitalism.

Nope, usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

> I would say the majority of the driving public is just too damn lazy and wasteful to sharpen their
> own wiper blades to be much interested in buying such a tool.

The problem is that it just aint possible, you can never hope to get a straight edge.

> I don't see it as a conspiracy. If I ran an auto supply store, I would
> probably look at the overall cost/benefit of it and see no particular
> reason in keeping such an item on my shelf. But that doesn't mean it doesn't work, or can't be
> useful for some people.

Pity its just the usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

>>> So you remove the perished edge, give it a proper burial, and create a new edge.

>> Not even possible, its the thin strip that perishes and its gone when removed.

> The entire strip rots?

The thin flexibile bit that contacts the windscreen, yet. Thats how perishing works.

> Doesn't that depend on how old and weathered it is?

Nope, thats the RESULT of the perishing.

> I'm willing to bet that in most cases the very edge
> deteriorates long before the rest of the strip does.

You've just lost that bet. How much was it for ?

>> You're always welcome to waste your time.

> Oh, I'm so glad I have your permission.

You've also got my permission to top yourself forthwith.

>> Some of us have enough of a clue to work out what things cant work and what things can.

> Nice boilerplate, Rod.

You wont be able to cite another example of me
using that phrase, so it aint a boilerplate, gutless.

> Perhaps people would respect your opinions if you weren't so curt and dogmatic, and actually
> bothered to explain your reasons for them.

Already did that thanks gutless.


Rod Speed

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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
> Rick <rick...@rcn.com> wrote

>> This is silly.

> Saving money is never silly, so long as it's worth the time and effort.

And it clearly isnt in this case.

>> Beyond friction from being in use, rubber & vinyl
>> disentegrate with exposure to the elements.

> That all depends where and what conditions you're driving/storing the car under. I'm in New York
> for example - not exactly arid conditions, so my wipers wear out long before they have a chance to
> harden and dry out.

Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to substantiate that claim.

>> And unless you can "sight" the exact curve of that rubber edge while
>> trying to do this, chances are you will make the problem even worse
>> when you end up with a more uneven edge than what you started with.

> Then the trick is to use a grade of sandpaper fine enough, and to use a small piece while applying
> even pressure along the length of the blade to keep it even.

Wrong, as always.

> Shouldn't be too hard.

Wrong, as always.

>> Actually, using sandpaper on them is pretty much guaranteed to weaken the blade by breaking it
>> down even more.

> If you're talking about 1000+ grit, it's doing little more than cleaning the crap of the rubber.

Then its a complete waste of time life of blade wise.

Rod Speed

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Jun 5, 2007, 5:25:51 AM6/5/07
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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote

> Bob's Backfire Burrito <BLAMPOW!@pullmyfinger.org> wrote

>> All this for a pair of $3.49 wiper blades hahahahaha


>> I guess your "time" is worth nothing.

> And why should anybody have to pay $3.49 (or even 1 dollar) to replace a product, if a quick swipe
> of a cheap piece of
> sandpaper/brillo pad could make it last significantly longer?

It doesnt.

> You do realize you're in a newsgroup that pertains to people saving money, right Bob?

Not to that mindlessly silly extent.


Jeff

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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5chlh9F...@mid.individual.net...
>
>> There's patents for all sorts of crap that never
>> did fly, including perpertual motion machines too.
>
> You mean those things really don't work? Well, there goes my day.
>
>
>>> although I can't find anybody selling this kind of tool.
>>
>> There might just be a reason for that.
>
> Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores
> would rather make more money off us by selling us more wiper blades.
> Selling such a money-saving tool would probably just not be in their
> best interest.
>

Sure it would. They make more money by selling the tool AND new blades
after you discover the tool doesn't work and ruined your blades.

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> Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
>> Bob's Backfire Burrito <BLAMPOW!@pullmyfinger.org> wrote
>
>>> All this for a pair of $3.49 wiper blades hahahahaha
>>> I guess your "time" is worth nothing.
>
>> And why should anybody have to pay $3.49 (or even 1 dollar) to replace a
>> product, if a quick swipe of a cheap piece of
>> sandpaper/brillo pad could make it last significantly longer?
>
You forgot the cost of the sandpaper/brillo, unless you STEAL it from work.

>
>> You do realize you're in a newsgroup that pertains to people saving
>> money, right Bob?
>
I see it as a newsgroup for "Pennywise & Dollar Foolish"...

Some of you people spend countless hours of time trying to save literally
pennies.Look at the cost of a set of wipers. $3.49 each, the car requires
two of them. This totals to $6.98. Add tax to that and it's under $8.00. Now
divide this by 12 (the number of months they usually last).This comes to a
WHOPPING 66 cents a month for the use of this needed product.Can you afford
66 cents a month? You use more in toilet paper a week (some of you cheapos
use your hand).
How do you save money on engine oil? Do you run it until it's low and just
add? Do you drive your car until you hear metal on metal from the brakes?
I am all for saving money too, I use CFL's in my house and other ways to
save some bucks, but when you risk your safety, MY safety and your families
safety for 66 FUCKING cents a month this makes you a complete idiot.
No one (Except another cheap asshole) likes to be around one.I can just
picture your wife and kids not allowed to watch TV during the evening
because the TV is solar powered and wont work at night.
Or not getting to watch Quality TV because you are so cheap you wont get
cable/Satellite TV and they have to watch over the air only.

Save money..hell yes....but to pinch pennies is plain nuts.


>
>


E Z Peaces

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Logic316 wrote:
> "Rick" <rick...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Beyond friction from being in use, rubber & vinyl
>> disentegrate with exposure to the elements.
>
> That all depends where and what conditions you're driving/storing the car
> under. I'm in New York for example - not exactly arid conditions, so my
> wipers wear out long before they have a chance to harden and dry out.

My problem is a film on the windshield from something in the air.
Windshield buffing compound works. Bon Ami (chalk) works and in my
experience doesn't scratch. (Maybe the warning on the can is for coated
glass.) The best thing I've found is newsprint with a mixture of water,
ammonia, and vinegar.


>
>
>> And unless you can "sight" the exact curve of that rubber edge while
>> trying to do this, chances are you will make the problem even worse when
>> you end up with a more uneven edge than what you started with.
>
> Then the trick is to use a grade of sandpaper fine enough, and to use a
> small piece while applying even pressure along the length of the blade to
> keep it even. Shouldn't be too hard.

Shouldn't be too hard... I think you're on to something. I've read that
WD-40 restores blades by making the rubber more pliant. In that case,
something like Armor All or belt dressing might do better.

My upstroke cleans the glass fine, but my downstroke leaves enough water
to blur the image, like driving with 3-diopter reading glasses. New
blades don't help. I haven't figured it out.
>

>> This IS a safety issue.
>> There's nothing worse that streaking up your windshield when you hit the
>> button for the windshield cleaner and end up with a mess worse that you
>> started with because the wipers are shot. Especially at 65 miles an
>> hour.
>

Can you ever be sure what will happen when you squirt at 65?

E Z Peaces

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Bob's Backfire Burrito wrote:


> This comes to a
> WHOPPING 66 cents a month for the use of this needed product.Can you afford
> 66 cents a month? You use more in toilet paper a week

I am willing to pay 40 cents a roll for a certain famous brand because a
roll lasts months.

> (some of you cheapos use your hand).

My parents taught me to hold the paper with my hand and that's the
method I'll continue to use. I /could/ buy a sterling-silver
monogrammed toilet paper applicator, but I'd probably drop it in the bowl.

> How do you save money on engine oil? Do you run it until it's low and just
> add? Do you drive your car until you hear metal on metal from the brakes?

I buy the cheapest with the necessary API rating.

> I am all for saving money too, I use CFL's in my house and other ways to

I agree. Besides saving hot water, cold-flush toilets reduce odor.

> save some bucks, but when you risk your safety, MY safety and your families
> safety for 66 FUCKING cents a month this makes you a complete idiot.
> No one (Except another cheap asshole) likes to be around one.I can just
> picture your wife and kids not allowed to watch TV during the evening
> because the TV is solar powered and wont work at night.
> Or not getting to watch Quality TV because you are so cheap you wont get
> cable/Satellite TV and they have to watch over the air only.

"Boring" is the word that comes to mind to describe the Quality of
cable/Satellite TV.


>
> to pinch pennies is plain nuts.
>
>

... but to pinch nuts is plain hilarious. Did you see the cabbie scene
in "Stir Crazy"?

Bob F

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Have you ever been wrong before? Well, you are wrong again.

Bob


Bob F

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"E Z Peaces" <ca...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:f44bao$gh4

> My upstroke cleans the glass fine, but my downstroke leaves enough
> water to blur the image, like driving with 3-diopter reading
> glasses. New blades don't help. I haven't figured it out.

The blade is tilting unevenly. On the upstroke, it is working
correctly. Probably, on the downstroke, since it is tilted so much,
the blade edge does not flip under the blade as the direction changes,
so the edge gets pushed ahead of the blade instead of dragging behind
it, and it doesn't wipe properly. If this is the case, you may be able
to bend the blade arm or something so that the blade properly flips
back and forth.

This can be also caused by blades always parking in the same position,
so after awhile, the blade acquires a bend in the one direction. In
this case, removing the blade, and putting it in from the other end
will reverse this bend and solve the problem. You can also just move
the blade after use so it gets bent the other way until it is used
again. If you do this half the time, the blade should work better over
the long term. Usually, the blade parks on the downstroke, so just
lift it off the window, push it down a bit, and put it back on the
window. As it springs back up to the origional position, the blade
will flip to the upstroke position. And vice-versa, if your wiper
stops on an upstroke.

Bob


Rod Speed

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Easy to claim.


Bob F

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"Bob's Backfire Burrito" <BLAMPOW!@pullmyfinger.org> wrote in message

>>> You do realize you're in a newsgroup that pertains to people
>>> saving money, right Bob?
>>
> I see it as a newsgroup for "Pennywise & Dollar Foolish"...
>
> Some of you people spend countless hours of time trying to save
> literally pennies.Look at the cost of a set of wipers. $3.49 each,
> the car requires two of them. This totals to $6.98. Add tax to that
> and it's under $8.00. Now divide this by 12 (the number of months
> they usually last).This comes to a WHOPPING 66 cents a month for the
> use of this needed product.Can you afford 66 cents a month? You use
> more in toilet paper a week (some of you cheapos use your hand).

So - wiping off the wiper when I clean the windows, or when it starts
to streak, so that it works like new is not worth it? It takes a lot
less time than stopping at the store, buying new wipers, figuring out
how this years version is proper attached, and wiggleing them into
place. And my wipers probably get replaced every 7-10 years. Until
cleaning them does not make them work right, they are exactly as safe
as the brand new ones you waste your money on.

> How do you save money on engine oil? Do you run it until it's low
> and just add?

I buy oil by the case on sale, and change it every 3000 miles. 193,000
miles and I still don't burn oil between changes.

Do you drive your car until you hear metal on metal from the brakes?
> I am all for saving money too, I use CFL's in my house and other
> ways to save some bucks, but when you risk your safety, MY safety
> and your families safety for 66 FUCKING cents a month this makes you
> a complete idiot.
> No one (Except another cheap asshole) likes to be around one.I can
> just picture your wife and kids not allowed to watch TV during the
> evening because the TV is solar powered and wont work at night.
> Or not getting to watch Quality TV because you are so cheap you wont
> get cable/Satellite TV and they have to watch over the air only.

This is only so much idiotic ranting. If cleaning blades keeps them
working right, they are no less safe than your brand new ones. Several
time, I've been riding with someone who said they need new blades
because they were streaking. Stop the car, get a tissue wet, and wipe
the blade edge, and everything is fine. The problem is usually dirt,
not wear.


>
> Save money..hell yes....but to pinch pennies is plain nuts.

Unless it works and takes less time and money.

Bob


E Z Peaces

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Jun 5, 2007, 4:14:14 PM6/5/07
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Wow! Thanks, I'll try it.

Bob F

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You replace your blades how often?

Mine last many years. And work fine.

Bob


Rod Speed

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Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> clams casino <PeterG...@drunkin-clam.com> wrote
>>>>>> pj wrote

>>>>>>> Something I've found that makes a new set last longer and clean better is to wipe down the
>>>>>>> blade with a wet paper towel to remove the dirt and oils it has collected.

>>>>>> The dirt / oils are chemically deteriorating the rubber (pitting the surface).

>>>> Nope, its the blade perishing.

>>>>>> Periodically cleaning / wiping off the wipers should help their life where the deterioration
>>>>>> is non reversible.

>>>>> Good point. I have cleaned my wipers once in a rare while, and it did noticably improve their
>>>>> performance afterwards. It's amazing how much black crap comes off those things.

>>>> That's the result of them perishing.

>>>>> I'll just have to do it more often and then I won't have to change them as much.

>>>> Fantasy, you will have to change them just as often.

>>> Have you ever been wrong before? Well, you are wrong again.

>> Easy to claim.

> You replace your blades how often?

> Mine last many years. And work fine.

So do mine.

I was JUST commenting on whether that CLEANING would reduce the rate at which they need to be
changed.


Bob F

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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> Fantasy, you will have to change them just as often.
>
>>>> Have you ever been wrong before? Well, you are wrong again.
>
>>> Easy to claim.
>
>> You replace your blades how often?
>
>> Mine last many years. And work fine.
>
> So do mine.
>
> I was JUST commenting on whether that CLEANING would reduce the rate
> at which they need to be changed.
>

Many people replace them when they stop working right. They don't know
to clean them. So I think the answer can be yes.

Bob


Rod Speed

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More fool you. The problem is that they have perished and cleaning
them wont extend their life because that has no effect on the perishing.


Logic316

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>> Then the trick is to use a grade of sandpaper fine enough, and to use a
>> small piece while applying even pressure along the length of the blade to
>> keep it even. Shouldn't be too hard.
>
> Shouldn't be too hard... I think you're on to something. I've read that
> WD-40 restores blades by making the rubber more pliant. In that case,
> something like Armor All or belt dressing might do better.

I do use stuff like Armor All, silicone spray, or car wax on wiper blades
whenever I wash my car. It does seem to improve their performance, though
only for a short while.


>>> There's nothing worse that streaking up your windshield when you hit the
>>> button for the windshield cleaner and end up with a mess worse that you
>>> started with because the wipers are shot. Especially at 65 miles an
>>> hour.
>>
> Can you ever be sure what will happen when you squirt at 65?

Yeah, really. I always clean my windshield *before* I head out on the road,
and would thus notice any problems with the blades before I'm in that kind
of situation.

- Logic316


"CONSULTING - If you're not a part of the solution,
there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem."

Logic316

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"Bob's Backfire Burrito" <BLAMPOW!@pullmyfinger.org> wrote in message
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> I see it as a newsgroup for "Pennywise & Dollar Foolish"...

Troll troll troll your boat, gently down the stream....


Bob F

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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Idiot. I've been doing it for years. It works great.

Bob


Rod Speed

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Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> Fantasy, you will have to change them just as often.

>>>>>>> Have you ever been wrong before? Well, you are wrong again.

>>>>>> Easy to claim.

>>>>> You replace your blades how often?

>>>>> Mine last many years. And work fine.

>>>> So do mine.

>>>> I was JUST commenting on whether that CLEANING would reduce the rate at which they need to be
>>>> changed.

>>> Many people replace them when they stop working right. They don't know to clean them. So I think
>>> the answer can be yes.

>> More fool you. The problem is that they have perished and cleaning
>> them wont extend their life because that has no effect on the perishing.

> Idiot. I've been doing it for years. It works great.

Fuckwit. I've been doing it to decades and you havent established
that you are getting any more time from your blades than I get.


Logic316

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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Nope, just good old-fashioned capitalism.
>
> Nope, usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

Rod, this isn't about a 300 mile-per-gallon carburetor (or any other similar
miracle gadget) being deliberately covered up and suppressed by Big
Business. If you owned an auto parts store and there was a tool that would
prevent people from having to buy as many windshield wiper blades from you,
why on earth would you bother to stock it? I'm not claiming any kind of
conspiracy or maliciousness on anybody's part. It just sounds like simple
human nature to me. I'm not certain of it, of course, but I do say it's a
plausible scenerio.


> The problem is that it just aint possible, you can never hope to get a
> straight edge.

You can keep things straight when sharpening a knife (unless you're very bad
at it), so why not when sharpening a rubber blade? It's all in the pressure,
technique, and sharpening material that you use.


>> The entire strip rots?
>
> The thin flexibile bit that contacts the windscreen, yet. Thats how
> perishing works.

Well there's your problem, Roddy. You should rip out that scratchy screen
and replace it with a proper piece of glass. I'm surprised they even let you
drive around with only a wire mesh in your front window. That's why your
wipers become completely ruined in such short order.


>> I'm willing to bet that in most cases the very edge
>> deteriorates long before the rest of the strip does.
>
> You've just lost that bet. How much was it for ?

It's common sense - synthetic rubber deteriorates from the OUTSIDE-IN. Just
look at your tires when they get old, for instance. If you remove the
deteriorated rubber, you expose the fresh and usable rubber underneath.


>> Oh, I'm so glad I have your permission.
>
> You've also got my permission to top yourself forthwith.

What kind of toppings would you like, sir?


>> Nice boilerplate, Rod.
>
> You wont be able to cite another example of me
> using that phrase, so it aint a boilerplate, gutless.

I meant boilerplate as in any kind of incredibly generic response which
doesn't require forming any real thought and doesn't adequately address the
topic, which seems extremely common in your posts. I never implied you've
personally used it before.


>> Perhaps people would respect your opinions if you weren't so curt and
>> dogmatic, and actually bothered to explain your reasons for them.
>
> Already did that thanks gutless.

I'm not quite sure where that came from. I suppose you think it takes guts
to call people names from within the safety of your living room, Roddy?

- Logic316


"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by rulers as useful".
-- Seneca


Logic316

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"Jeff" <j...@donotspam.me> wrote in message
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> "Logic316" <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in
> news:eHW8i.5$Gy...@newsfe12.lga:

>> Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores


>> would rather make more money off us by selling us more wiper blades.
>> Selling such a money-saving tool would probably just not be in their
>> best interest.
>>
> Sure it would. They make more money by selling the tool AND new blades
> after you discover the tool doesn't work and ruined your blades.

But since you don't see that tool anywhere in stores, that's obviously proof
that it does work :-P

- Logic316


"If it's tourist season, does that mean we can shoot them?"


Rod Speed

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Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Logic316 <Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Yeah, it hasn't been marketed yet. Reason? Perhaps auto parts stores would rather make more
>>>>> money off us by selling us more wiper blades. Selling such a money-saving tool would probably
>>>>> just not be in their best interest.

>>>> Usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

>>> Nope, just good old-fashioned capitalism.

>> Nope, usual utterly mindless conspiracy theory.

> Rod, this isn't about a 300 mile-per-gallon carburetor (or any other similar miracle gadget) being
> deliberately covered up and suppressed by Big Business.

Never happened.

> If you owned an auto parts store and there was a tool that would prevent people from having to buy
> as many windshield
> wiper blades from you, why on earth would you bother to stock it?

Because you can sell it, and when it doesnt work, sell new blades as well.

> I'm not claiming any kind of conspiracy or maliciousness on anybody's part.

Yes you are.

> It just sounds like simple human nature to me.

More fool you.

> I'm not certain of it, of course, but I do say it's a plausible scenerio.

No it isnt.

>> The problem is that it just aint possible, you can never hope to get a straight edge.

> You can keep things straight when sharpening a knife (unless you're very bad at it), so why not
> when sharpening a rubber blade?

Even you should have noticed the difference between
a rigid knife blade and a flexible wiper blade.

> It's all in the pressure, technique, and sharpening material that you use.

Wrong with a flexible soft wiper blade.

>>> The entire strip rots?

>> The thin flexibile bit that contacts the windscreen, yes. Thats how perishing works.

> Well there's your problem, Roddy.

I dont have a problem, gutless.

> You should rip out that scratchy screen and replace it with a proper piece of glass.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.

> I'm surprised they even let you drive around with only a wire mesh in your front window.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.

> That's why your wipers become completely ruined in such short order.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys.

>>> I'm willing to bet that in most cases the very edge
>>> deteriorates long before the rest of the strip does.

>> You've just lost that bet. How much was it for ?

> It's common sense - synthetic rubber deteriorates from the OUTSIDE-IN.

Must be one of those rocket scientist drug crazed gutless fuckwits.

> Just look at your tires when they get old, for instance. If you remove the deteriorated rubber,
> you expose the fresh and usable rubber underneath.

Not with a very thin wiper blade edge you dont.

It isnt even possible to remove just the edge.

>>> Oh, I'm so glad I have your permission.

>> You've also got my permission to top yourself forthwith.

> What kind of toppings would you like, sir?

A rope would be fine.

>>> Nice boilerplate, Rod.

>> You wont be able to cite another example of me
>> using that phrase, so it aint a boilerplate, gutless.

> I meant boilerplate as in any kind of incredibly generic response
> which doesn't require forming any real thought and doesn't adequately
> address the topic, which seems extremely common in your posts.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

> I never implied you've personally used it before.

Obvious lie.

>>> Perhaps people would respect your opinions if you weren't so curt
>>> and dogmatic, and actually bothered to explain your reasons for them.

>> Already did that thanks gutless.

> I'm not quite sure where that came from.

Your problem, gutless.

> I suppose you think it takes guts to call people names from within the safety of your living room,
> Roddy?

You're clearly gutless cowering behind that pathetic excuse for a nick, gutless.

> - Logic316

Its a tad unlikely that your mom actually called you that.


Bob F

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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You've been doing WHAT for decades? Not cleaning your wipers?


Rod Speed

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>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.

>>>>>> So do mine.

Yep, and getting the same life out of the blades as you do who wastes your time cleaning the blades.


Bob F

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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> More fool you. The problem is that they have perished and
>>>>> cleaning
>>>>> them wont extend their life because that has no effect on the
>>>>> perishing.
>
>>>> Idiot. I've been doing it for years. It works great.
>
>>> Fuckwit. I've been doing it to decades and you havent established
>>> that you are getting any more time from your blades than I get.
>
>> You've been doing WHAT for decades? Not cleaning your wipers?
>
> Yep, and getting the same life out of the blades as you do who
> wastes your time cleaning the blades.

I don't know where you live, but where I am, they get dirty and start
smearing. Cleaning them solves it.

It must be nice to be the smartest man in the world.

Bob


Rod Speed

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Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>> More fool you. The problem is that they have perished and cleaning


>>>>>> them wont extend their life because that has no effect on the perishing.

>>>>> Idiot. I've been doing it for years. It works great.

>>>> Fuckwit. I've been doing it to decades and you havent established
>>>> that you are getting any more time from your blades than I get.

>>> You've been doing WHAT for decades? Not cleaning your wipers?

>> Yep, and getting the same life out of the blades as you do who wastes your time cleaning the
>> blades.

> I don't know where you live,

Or anything else, either.

> but where I am, they get dirty and start smearing. Cleaning them solves it.

Irrelevant to whether cleaning them gets more life out of them.

> It must be nice to be the smartest man in the world.

It must be hopeless being the stupidest.

Top yourself forthwith.


Ron Peterson

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On Jun 3, 10:59 pm, "Logic316" <Logic...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday because they
> were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible to
> restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having to
> throw them away and buy new ones? I remember reading somewhere that you can
> do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that never worked for me.

Rubbing alcohol is recommended for some brands of windshield wipers.

Another possibility is to use water repellent on the windshield to
reduce the need to use the wipers.

--
Ron


Bob F

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Jun 8, 2007, 3:27:36 AM6/8/07
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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You are SOOOO full of yourself. And your eyes are so brown.

Rod Speed

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Jun 8, 2007, 5:33:43 AM6/8/07
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>> Or anything else, either.

>> Top yourself forthwith.

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.

Get one to help you before posting again, if anyone is actually stupid enough to let you anywhere
near one.

Three guesses what the F stands for.


Bob F

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Jun 8, 2007, 10:43:25 AM6/8/07
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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> It must be hopeless being the stupidest.
>
>>> Top yourself forthwith.
>
>> You are SOOOO full of yourself. And your eyes are so brown.
>
> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.

Let me know when you get there then.

Dennis

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Jun 8, 2007, 11:20:42 AM6/8/07
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:04:52 -0700, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com>
wrote:

>Rubbing alcohol is recommended for some brands of windshield wipers.

I use rubbing alcohol to clean my wiper blades with some success. I
just dampen a rag with it, pinch the edge of the blade in the wet rag
and wipe it back and forth along the length a few times. Quite a bit
of black stuff comes off on the rag and the wipers work better
afterwards.


Dennis (evil)
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Rod Speed

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Jun 8, 2007, 3:43:28 PM6/8/07
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Bob F

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Jun 9, 2007, 2:42:34 PM6/9/07
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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Do you really enjoy being the resident A.H?

Have you ever actually helped anyone here?

Loser!


Rod Speed

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Jun 9, 2007, 2:48:33 PM6/9/07
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Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote

E Z Peaces

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Jun 10, 2007, 6:35:20 PM6/10/07
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Ron Peterson wrote:

>
> Another possibility is to use water repellent on the windshield to
> reduce the need to use the wipers.
>

I tried rain repellent years ago and didn't like it. It made the water
bead, and that was much harder to see through than water sheeting on
glass. Maybe it would be okay on the highway, with wind to blow the
beads away.

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SoCalMike

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Jun 13, 2007, 1:48:32 AM6/13/07
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E Z Peaces wrote:

> Bob F wrote:
>> "E Z Peaces" <ca...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:f44bao$gh4
>>> My upstroke cleans the glass fine, but my downstroke leaves enough
>>> water to blur the image, like driving with 3-diopter reading
>>> glasses. New blades don't help. I haven't figured it out.

new blade inserts from the dealer should work perfectly. ive gone
aftermarket before, and had too many hassles. on my honda, it was $9 for
both inserts. the blade and metal rods get reused. when done, they work
like new.

Bob Ward

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Jun 26, 2007, 12:33:20 AM6/26/07
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 02:02:06 -0400, "Logic316"
<Logi...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

>
>> And unless you can "sight" the exact curve of that rubber edge while
>> trying to do this, chances are you will make the problem even worse when
>> you end up with a more uneven edge than what you started with.


>
>Then the trick is to use a grade of sandpaper fine enough, and to use a
>small piece while applying even pressure along the length of the blade to
>keep it even. Shouldn't be too hard.


Considering the price of new wiper blades and the difficulty of
installation (free installation at many retailers), reviving your
wiper blades makes about as much sense as washing and reusing toilet
paper.

diama...@gmail.com

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Nov 6, 2013, 4:44:31 PM11/6/13
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Le dimanche 3 juin 2007 23:59:12 UTC-4, Logic316 a écrit :
> Hi folks,
> I just replaced the windshield wiper blades on my car yesterday because they
> were streaking badly. I was wondering, is there any way it's possible to
> restore the edges of worn-out wiper blades once or twice before having to
> throw them away and buy new ones? I remember reading somewhere that you can
> do it by rubbing it with fine grade sandpaper, but that never worked for me.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Logic316
>
>
> "If you keep your mind sufficiently open, people will throw a lot of rubbish
> into it."
> -- William Orton

What you should know about wipers problems?
How to solve wiper CLEANING problems?

Visibility
Clear visibility is extremely important when driving. Vision is the sense mostly utilised when driving. No compromise on visibility should be accepted.
Wiper problems as streaking, flutter, bugs, snow or heavy rain being spread in front of your vision or wiper lift when facing wind at highway speed are very annoying and could become dangerous in particular when the driver is facing sun. This happens especially when the sun is low in the sky in the morning or before night exactly when we commute to work and the traffic is at its peak.
Why a bad cleaning?
The cause of these frequent problems were identified as originating from a weak pressure applied on the wiper blade by the wiper arm since air lift occurs when driving. The arm and blade are pulling off the windshield by the air creating a vacuum over them.
Also when we clean a surface of dirt, we have to apply some effort to detach this dirt on the surface. It is the exact same thing with wiper cleaning the windshield. Some pressure must be added to obtain a good cleaning.
How come this happen?
This originates from the wiper arm spring which is located within the wiper arm. This spring is pulling in a direction along the arm instead of applying pressure in the direction of the windshield. The pressure applied by the arm is then not sufficient to achieve a good cleaning job. The leverage of this spring is very small since the wiper arm has a small thickness. Also, as frequently encountered in much mechanism, the space allowed to install the proper size spring is not sufficient. Wiper arms are not very wide or thick.
Aerodynamic
Also, fuel consumption is becoming an issue and to reduce it, car manufacturers lower the profile of vehicles to decrease the aerodynamic air resistance which is responsible for most vehicles fuel consumption.
This improved aerodynamic leads to slanting the windshield thus enlarging its size in height which requires a longer wiper arm with longer wiper blades. This contributes to lower the pressure on the blade as this offers more arm and blade to catch in the wind and create more lift.
The solution
Increase pressure on the wiper blade by adding an external torsion spring to add an optimal pressure on the wiper blade. This spring called Sure Wipe TM is a universal retrofit spring made of stainless steel that installs in seconds. It solves wiper problems at a low cost. It is permanent and install in seconds. It is safe for the wiper motor and the wiper blade as test demonstrated. It makes old and new wipers work as they should.

In resume, there is not enough pressure on the wiper and by adding an additional wiper arm spring; it gives the wiper just enough pressure to perform the good work and give a good visibility at all times while driving.

Bob F

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diama...@gmail.com wrote:
> Le dimanche 3 juin 2007 23:59:12 UTC-4, Logic316 a �crit :
Ususlly, all you need to do is use a little soap and water and clean the blade.
How many people do that regularly?



ItsJoan NotJoann

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Nov 7, 2013, 2:36:50 PM11/7/13
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On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 10:09:56 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:
>
>
> Ususlly, all you need to do is use a little soap and water and clean the blade.
>
> How many people do that regularly?
>
>
You do realize you responded to a 6+ year old post, correct?

Bob F

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Nov 8, 2013, 2:05:26 AM11/8/13
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I responded to a 6 3/4 hour old post.


Michael Black

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Nov 8, 2013, 9:42:23 AM11/8/13
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Abd you didn't notice the date on the message the idiot was replying to?

You didn't think "I don't remember seeing the original"?

This is a massive threat from google. I don't really know what's going
on, it's one thing to look at old messages but I can't figure out whether
the google idiots are not noticing they are replying to old messages, or
think it doesn't matter. I've seen conflicting views at web forums about
whether it's right to reply to an old message or start a new one, so it's
not like there is a new set of netiquette based on web forums that people
think apply to Usenet via google.

Some google idiot replies to an old message, and it's completely out of
context. The reply means nothing, the original poster is long gone,
either having solved the issue or given up long ago. But then it causes
others who aren't paying attention to reply, and the thread, without any
purpose relives. Chances are good if you go to google and look at the
original thread, there were plenty of answers and there's no need for
anymore, even if the original message wasn't old. But people like to just
chime in without paying attention, so they just mumble away at something
that is irrelevant but also covered in the past.

Or, people are paying so little attention when they reply that they
suggest some new solution, which didn't exist when the original message
was posted. I've seen people pick out old posts and say "use something
newer" and others chime in on that, and nobody notices that the original
message is close to 20 years old, and the solutions available were way
different. And any current solutions don't matter, since the original
poster no longer cares, isn't even reading the newsgroup anymore.

Michael

Bob F

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Nov 8, 2013, 9:09:59 PM11/8/13
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Michael Black wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Bob F wrote:
>
>> ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 10:09:56 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ususlly, all you need to do is use a little soap and water and
>>>> clean the blade.
>>>>
>>>> How many people do that regularly?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You do realize you responded to a 6+ year old post, correct?
>>
>> I responded to a 6 3/4 hour old post.
>>
> Abd you didn't notice the date on the message the idiot was replying
> to?

I noticed it, but was responding to the person I responded to. Get it?

The guy was telling people to re-design their wiper arms, and I suggested a
simpler solution to the problem.

Jeezzzze!


Shoe-Chucker 2

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Nov 9, 2013, 10:58:55 AM11/9/13
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In article <7684212b-324d-4035...@googlegroups.com>,
I take the wipers off and store them during the hot dry season. I treat
the windshield with Rain-X. the "invisible windshield wiper" and if I
think the rubber on the blade is below par, I scrape it clean.
If it is less than really flexible or it's shredding, I go to my cache
of replacement blades. New blades I sometimes find at yard sales.
trimming them to fit.
Yes, you want to look where you're going.
Oh, you can't assume the other drivers see you. So, I put day-glo tape
on the arms of my wiper blades. Boy, does that get their attention.
Like a third finger waving across my windshield.
And watch out for slick roads. After a dry period the first rain brings
road oils to the surface and it gets pretty slippery. Waiting a half
hour thru the first rain after a dry period. OK>?
--
Karma ; what a concept!

The Real Bev

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Nov 9, 2013, 2:42:52 PM11/9/13
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On 11/09/2013 07:58 AM, Shoe-Chucker 2 wrote:

> In article <7684212b-324d-4035...@googlegroups.com>,
> ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 10:09:56 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Ususlly, all you need to do is use a little soap and water and clean the
>> > blade.
>> >
>> > How many people do that regularly?
>> >
>> >
>> You do realize you responded to a 6+ year old post, correct?
>
> I take the wipers off and store them during the hot dry season. I treat
> the windshield with Rain-X. the "invisible windshield wiper" and if I
> think the rubber on the blade is below par, I scrape it clean.
> If it is less than really flexible or it's shredding, I go to my cache
> of replacement blades. New blades I sometimes find at yard sales.
> trimming them to fit.

I bought some TripLEdge blades for my previous car. They were still
good several years later when I had to junk the car -- with a lot of
OTHER lifetime parts. (This is California, where stupidity is king and
the smog means you replace wiper blades annually.). Not available in
stores any more, you have to buy them by mail order, which I did. In
fine shape after 3 years -- I really don't expect them to wear out.
http://www.thewiperstore.com/tripledge-windshield-wipers.html

I suspect that the Rain-X blades are made of the same stuff and are
available in stores, including WalMart.


> Yes, you want to look where you're going.
> Oh, you can't assume the other drivers see you. So, I put day-glo tape
> on the arms of my wiper blades. Boy, does that get their attention.
> Like a third finger waving across my windshield.
> And watch out for slick roads. After a dry period the first rain brings
> road oils to the surface and it gets pretty slippery. Waiting a half
> hour thru the first rain after a dry period. OK>?
>


--
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why should I be tarred with the epithet "loony" merely
because I have a pet halibut? --Monty Python

Bob F

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Nov 9, 2013, 8:12:14 PM11/9/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
>
> I bought some TripLEdge blades for my previous car. They were still
> good several years later when I had to junk the car

How do those things do in the snow? Do they shed it any better?


The Real Bev

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Nov 10, 2013, 3:45:10 AM11/10/13
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I've never been snowed on, unfortunately.

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Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why is it so hot and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Bob F

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Nov 10, 2013, 12:37:03 PM11/10/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/09/2013 05:12 PM, Bob F wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought some TripLEdge blades for my previous car. They were still
>>> good several years later when I had to junk the car
>>
>> How do those things do in the snow? Do they shed it any better?
>
> I've never been snowed on, unfortunately.

But, you're a skier aren't you?

The biggest problem I have with wipers is when they get clogged to uselessness
by snow on the way to ski.


The Real Bev

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Nov 10, 2013, 6:11:01 PM11/10/13
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On 11/10/2013 09:37 AM, Bob F wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 11/09/2013 05:12 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>
>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I bought some TripLEdge blades for my previous car. They were still
>>>> good several years later when I had to junk the car
>>>
>>> How do those things do in the snow? Do they shed it any better?
>>
>> I've never been snowed on, unfortunately.
>
> But, you're a skier aren't you?

Yes, but Brian Head this year is the only non-SoCal skiing I've ever
done, and we stayed inside when it was snowing.

> The biggest problem I have with wipers is when they get clogged to uselessness
> by snow on the way to ski.

Since I've been going with my friend, she drives her little Honda
<something> sportscar convertible with the top down and the heater on.
She has the fancy soft rubber tires that I've never heard screech no
matter how fast she takes the turns. She says they're worthless in the
rain, though. Or even in dew.

Actually, looking back to pre-1990, I was up at Table Mountain (across
the street from Mountain High) with my Sentra when it started snowing.
I'd never seen snow falling before, it was really pretty. I was hiring
people and was worried about having to drive back home in the snow. One
of the guys I was hiring was the snowplow driver (who did other things
too) who assured me that I would have no problem, and that if there was
more snow than I felt comfy with he'd precede me down the hill. No
problem. I don't think it was snowing when I left.

--
Cheers, Bev
----------------------------------------------------------
"I just realized how bad the economy really is. I recently
bought a new toaster oven and as a complimentary gift,
I was given a bank." -- L. Legro

Bob F

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Nov 10, 2013, 8:55:09 PM11/10/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/10/2013 09:37 AM, Bob F wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 11/09/2013 05:12 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought some TripLEdge blades for my previous car. They were
>>>>> still good several years later when I had to junk the car
>>>>
>>>> How do those things do in the snow? Do they shed it any better?
>>>
>>> I've never been snowed on, unfortunately.
>>
>> But, you're a skier aren't you?
>
> Yes, but Brian Head this year is the only non-SoCal skiing I've ever
> done, and we stayed inside when it was snowing.

Stayed inside???? MY favorite times are when it is snowing. I hate it when the
sun comes out and trashes the powder.

>
>> The biggest problem I have with wipers is when they get clogged to
>> uselessness by snow on the way to ski.
>
> Since I've been going with my friend, she drives her little Honda
> <something> sportscar convertible with the top down and the heater on.

One good spray of cascade slush from another car would cure that habit.

> She has the fancy soft rubber tires that I've never heard screech no
> matter how fast she takes the turns. She says they're worthless in
> the rain, though. Or even in dew.

Sounds like just what I need here in Seattle. NOT!


The Real Bev

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Nov 11, 2013, 1:45:09 AM11/11/13
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On 11/10/2013 05:55 PM, Bob F wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 11/10/2013 09:37 AM, Bob F wrote:
>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 11/09/2013 05:12 PM, Bob F wrote:
>>>>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought some TripLEdge blades for my previous car. They were
>>>>>> still good several years later when I had to junk the car
>>>>>
>>>>> How do those things do in the snow? Do they shed it any better?
>>>>
>>>> I've never been snowed on, unfortunately.
>>>
>>> But, you're a skier aren't you?
>>
>> Yes, but Brian Head this year is the only non-SoCal skiing I've ever
>> done, and we stayed inside when it was snowing.
>
> Stayed inside???? MY favorite times are when it is snowing. I hate it when the
> sun comes out and trashes the powder.

No experience. Normal snow quality here is icy corduroy (with holes --
the groomers aren't really religious about eliminating holes) until
maybe 9:30. Then 1.5 hours of really nice snow. Then slush. Best is
when it stayed frozen all night and was groomed after it froze. Few
days like that.

>>> The biggest problem I have with wipers is when they get clogged to
>>> uselessness by snow on the way to ski.
>>
>> Since I've been going with my friend, she drives her little Honda
>> <something> sportscar convertible with the top down and the heater on.
>
> One good spray of cascade slush from another car would cure that habit.

This is SoCal, the roads are generally dry up in the mountains unless
chains are required. That happens only when there's new snow, and our
new snow is NOT powder, although they insist on calling it that. It's
slow and sticky and unpleasant and not worth the trouble of putting on
and taking off the chains and driving 18 miles at 25 mph.

>> She has the fancy soft rubber tires that I've never heard screech no
>> matter how fast she takes the turns. She says they're worthless in
>> the rain, though. Or even in dew.
>
> Sounds like just what I need here in Seattle. NOT!

I had a Dunlop K70 (?) made of cling rubber (I don't know if they still
call it that) on my 1960 Ducati, but I never rode that in wet weather
either.

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Cheers, Bev
-----------------------------------------------------------
Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy
little ones against the stones.

bob haller

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Nov 15, 2013, 8:16:06 AM11/15/13
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I bought one of those wiper edge restorers it did NOT work. helped a tad for just a month

rubber detoriates and get hard with time and then cant flex enough to clean well....

considering your safety is at risk new wiper blades are well worth the bucks
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