Re: The Problem With Whites ( Kevin MacDonald )

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On Feb 14, 3:31 pm, jazzerci...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
> http://www.rense.com/general85/prob.htm
>
> The Problem With Whites
> By Kevin MacDonald
> 2-13-9
>
> America will soon have a white minority. This is a much desired state of
> affairs for the hostile elites who hold political power and shape public
> opinion. But it certainly creates some management issues - at least in the
> long run. After all, it's difficult to come up with an historical example of a
> nation with a solid ethnic majority (90% white in 1950) that has voluntarily
> decided to cede political and cultural power. Such transformations are
> typically accomplished by military invasions, great battles, and untold
> suffering.
>
> And it's not as if everyone is doing it. Only Western nations view their own
> demographic and cultural eclipse as a moral imperative. Indeed, as I have
> noted previously, it is striking that racial nationalism has triumphed in
> Israel at the same time that the Jewish intellectual and political movements
> and the organized Jewish community have been the most active and effective
> force for a non- white America. Indeed, a poll in 2008 found that Avigdor
> Lieberman was the second most popular politician in Israel. Lieberman has
> advocated expulsion of Arabs from Israel and has declared himself a follower
> of Vladimir Jabotinsky, the leading pioneer of racial Zionism. The most
> popular politician in the poll was Benjamin Netanyahu - another admirer of
> Jabotinsky. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Li vni are
> also Jabotinskyists.
>
> The racial Zionists are now carrying out yet another orgy of mass murder after
> a starvation-inducing blockade and the usual triggering assault designed to
> provoke Palestinian retaliation - which then becomes the cover for claims that
> Israel is merely defending itself against terrorism. This monstrosity was
> approved by overwhelming majorities of both Houses of Congress. The craven
> Bush administration did its part by abstaining from a UN resolution designed
> by the US Secretary of State as a result of a personal appeal by the Israeli
> Prime Minister. This is yet another accomplishment of the Israel Lobby, but
> one they would rather not have discussed in public. People might get the
> impression that the Lobby really does dictate US foreign policy in the
> Mideast. Obviously, such thoughts are only entertained by anti-Semites.
>
> But I digress.
>
> In managing the eclipse of white America, one strategy of the mainstream media
> is to simply ignore the issue. Christopher Donovan ("For the media, the less
> whites think about their coming minority status, the better") has noted that
> the media, and in particular, the New York Times, are quite uninterested in
> doing stories that discuss what white people think about this state of
> affairs.
>
> t's not surprising that the New York Times - the Jewish-owned flagship of
> anti-white, pro-multicultural media - ignores the issue. The issue is also
> missing from so-called conservative media even though one would think that
> conservatives would find the eclipse of white America to be an important
> issue. Certainly, their audiences would find it interesting.
>
> Now we have an article "The End of White America" written by Hua Hsu, an
> Assistant Professor of English at Vassar College. The article is a rather
> depressing display of what passes for intellectual discourse on the most
> important question confronting white people in America.
>
> Hsu begins by quoting a passage in F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby in
> which a character, Tom Buchanan, states: "Have you read The Rise of the
> Colored Empires by this man Goddard?" Well, it's a fine book, and everybody
> ought to read it. The idea is if we don't look out the white race will be-will
> be utterly submerged. It's all scientific stuff; it's been proved."
>
> Buchanan's comment is a thinly veiled reference to Lothrop Stoddard's The
> Rising Tide of Color which Hsu describes as "rationalized hatred" presented in
> a scholarly, gentlemanly, and scientific tone. (This wording that will
> certainly help him when he comes up for tenure.) As Hsu notes, Stoddard had a
> doctorate from Harvard and was a member of many academic associations. His
> book was published by a major publisher. It was therefore "precisely the kind
> of book that a 1920s man of Buchanan's profile - wealthy, Ivy League­educated,
> at once pretentious and intellectually insecure - might have been expected to
> bring up in casual conversation."
>
> Let's ponder that a bit. The simple reality is that in the year 2009 an Ivy
> League-educated person, "at once pretentious and intellectually insecure,"
> would just as glibly assert the same sort of nonsense as Hsu. To wit:
>
> The coming white minority does not mean that the racial hierarchy of American
> culture will suddenly become inverted, as in 1995's White Man's Burden, an
> awful thought experiment of a film, starring John Travolta, that envisions an
> upside-down world in which whites are subjugated to their high-class black
> oppressors. There will be dislocations and resentments along the way, but the
> demographic shifts of the next 40 years are likely to reduce the power of
> racial hierarchies over everyone's lives, producing a culture that's more
> likely than any before to treat its inhabitants as individuals, rather than
> members of a caste or identity group.
>
> The fact is that no one can say for certain what multicultural America without
> a white majority will be like. There is no scientific or historical basis for
> claims like "the demographic shifts of the next 40 years are likely to reduce
> the power of racial hierarchies over everyone's lives, producing a culture
> that's more likely than any before to treat its inhabitants as individuals,
> rather than members of a caste or identity group."
>
> Indeed, there is no evidence at all that we are proceeding to a color blind
> future. The election results continue to show that white people are coalescing
> in the Republican Party, while the Democrats are increasingly the party of a
> non-white soon-to-be majority.
>
> Is it so hard to believe that when this coalition achieves a majority that it
> will further compromise the interests of whites far beyond contemporary
> concerns such as immigration policy and affirmative action? Hsu anticipates a
> colorblind world, but affirmative action means that blacks and other
> minorities are certainly not treated as individuals. And it means that whites
> - especially white males - are losing out on opportunities they would have had
> without these policies and without the massive non- white immigration of the
> last few decades.
>
> Given the intractability of changing intelligence and other traits required
> for success in the contemporary economy, it is unlikely that 40 more years of
> affirmative action will attain the outcomes desired by the minority lobbies.
> Indeed, in Obama's America, blacks are rioting in Oakland over perceived
> racial injustices, and from 2002­ 2007, black juvenile homicide victims
> increased 31%, while black juvenile perpetrators increased 43%. Hence, the
> reasonable outlook is for a continuing need for affirmative action and for
> racial activism in these groups, even after whites become a minority.
>
> Whites will also lose out because of large-scale importation of relatively
> talented immigrants from East Asia. Indeed, as I noted over a decade ago, "The
> United States is well on the road to being dominated by an Asian technocratic
> elite and a Jewish business, professional, and media elite."
>
> Hsu shows that there already is considerable anxiety among whites about the
> future. An advertizing executive says, "I think white people feel like they're
> under siege right now - like it's not okay to be white right now, especially
> if you're a white male. ... People are stressed out about it. `We used to be
> in control! We're losing control'" Another says, "There's a lot of fear and a
> lot of resentment."
>
> It's hard to see why these feelings won't increase in the future.
>
> A huge problem for white people is lack of intellectual and cultural
> confidence. Hsu quotes Christian (Stuff White People Like) Lander saying, "I
> get it: as a straight white male, I'm the worst thing on Earth." A professor
> comments that for his students "to be white is to be culturally broke. The
> classic thing white students say when you ask them to talk about who they are
> is, `I don't have a culture.' They might be privileged, they might be loaded
> socioeconomically, but they feel bankrupt when it comes to culture They feel
> disadvantaged, and they feel marginalized."
>
> This lack of cultural confidence is no accident. For nearly 100 years whites
> have been subjected to a culture of critique emanating from the most
> prestigious academic and media institutions. And, as Hsu points out, the most
> vibrant and influential aspect of American popular culture is hip-hop-a
> product of the African American urban culture.
>
> The only significant group of white people with any cultural confidence
> centers itself around country music, NASCAR, and the small town values of
> traditional white America. For this group of whites - and only this group -
> there is "a racial pride that dares not speak its name, and that defines
> itself through cultural cues instead-a suspicion of intellectual elites and
> city dwellers, a preference for folksiness and plainness of speech (whether
> real or feigned), and the association of a working-class white minority with
> 'the real America.'"
>
> This is what I term implicit whiteness - implicit because explicit assertions
> of white identity have been banned by the anti- white elites that dominate our
> politics and culture. It is a culture that, as Hsu notes, "cannot speak its
> name."
>
> But that implies that the submerged white identity of the white working class
> and the lack of cultural confidence exhibited by the rest of white America are
> imposed from outside. Although there may well be characteristics of whites
> that facilitate this process, this suppression of white identity and interests
> is certainly not the natural outcome of modernization or any other force
> internal to whites as a people. In my opinion, they are the result of the
> successful erection of a culture of critique in the West dominated by Jewish
> intellectual and political movements.
>
> The result is that educated, intellectually insecure white people these days
> are far more likely to believe in the utopian future described by Hsu than in
> hard and cautious thinking about what the future might have in store for them.
>
> It's worth dwelling a bit on the intellectual insecurity of the whites who
> mindlessly utter the mantras of multiculturalism that they have soaked up from
> the school system and from the media. Most people do not have much confidence
> in their intellectual ability and look to elite opinion to shape their
> beliefs. As I noted elsewhere,
>
> A critical component of the success of the culture of critique is that it
> achieved control of the most prestigious and influential institutions of the
> West, and it became a consensus among the elites, Jewish and non-Jewish alike.
> Once this happened, it is not surprising that this culture became widely
> accepted among people of very different levels of education and among people
> of different social classes.
>
> Most people are quite insecure about their intellectual ability. But they know
> that the professors at Harvard, and the editorial page of the New York Times
> and the Washington Post, and even conservative commentators like Rush Limbaugh
> and Sean Hannity are all on page when it comes to racial and ethnic issues.
> This is a formidable array, to the point that you almost have to be a crank to
> dissent from this consensus.
>
> I think one of the greatest triumphs of the left has been to get people to
> believe that people who assert white identity and interests or who make
> unflattering portrayals of organized Jewish movements are morally degenerate,
> stupid, and perhaps psychiatrically disturbed. Obviously, all of these
> adjectives designate low status.
>
> The reality is that the multicultural emperor has no clothes and, because of
> its support for racial Zionism and the racialism of ethnic minorities in
> America, it is massively hypocritical to boot. The New York Times, the
> academic left, and the faux conservatives that dominate elite discourse on
> race and ethnicity are intellectually bankrupt and can only remain in power by
> ruthlessly suppressing or ignoring the scientific findings.
>
> This is particularly a problem for college-educated whites. Like Fitzgerald's
> Tom Buchanan, such people have a strong need to feel that their ideas are
> respectable and part of the mainstream. But the respectable mainstream gives
> them absolutely nothing with which to validate themselves except perhaps the
> idea that the world will be a better place when people like them no longer
> have power. Hsu quotes the pathetic Christian Lander: ""Like, I'm aware of all
> the horrible crimes that my demographic has done in the world. ... And there's
> a bunch of white people who are desperate - desperate - to say, `You know
> what? My skin's white, but I'm not one of the white people who's destroying
> the world.'"
>
> As a zombie leftist during the 1960s and 1970s, I know what that feeling of
> desperation is like - what it's like to be a self- hating white. We must get
> to the point where college-educated whites proudly and confidently say they
> are white and that they do not want to become a minority in America.
>
> This reminds me of the recent docudrama Milk, which depicts the life of gay
> activist Harvey Milk. Milk is sure be nominated for an Oscar as Best Picture
> because it lovingly illustrates a triumph of the cultural left. But is has an
> important message that should resonate with the millions of whites who have
> been deprived of their confidence and their culture: Be explicit. Just as
> Harvey Milk advocated being openly gay even in the face of dire consequences,
> whites need to tell their family and their friends that they have an identity
> as a white person and believe that whites have legitimate interests as white
> people. They must accept the consequences when they are harassed, fired from
> their jobs, or put in prison for such beliefs. They must run for political
> office as openly pro-white.
>
> Milk shows that homosexuals were fired from their jobs and arrested for
> congregating in public. Now it's the Southern Poverty Law Center and the rest
> of the leftist intellectual and political establishment that harasses and
> attempts to get people fired. But it's the same situation with the roles
> reversed. No revolution was ever accomplished without some martyrs. The
> revolution that restores the legitimacy of white identity and the legitimacy
> of white interests will be no exception.
>
> But it is a revolution that is absolutely necessary. The white majority is
> foolish indeed to entrust its future to a utopian hope that racial and ethnic
> identifications will disappear and that they won't continue to influence
> public policy in ways that compromise the interests of whites.
>
> It does not take an overactive imagination to see that coalitions of minority
> groups could compromise the interests of formerly dominant whites. We already
> see numerous examples in which coalitions of minority groups attempt to
> influence public policy, including immigration policy, against the interests
> of the whites. Placing ourselves in a position of vulnerability would be
> extremely risky, given the deep sense of historical grievance harbored by many
> ethnic activists and organized ethnic lobbies.
>
> This is especially the case with Jews. Jewish organisations have been
> unanimous in condemning Western societies, Western traditions, and
> Christianity, for past crimes against Jews. Similar sentiments are typical of
> a great many African Americans and Latinos, and especially among the ethnic
> activists from these groups. The "God damn America" sermon by President
> Obama's pastor comes to mind as a recent notorious example.
>
> The precedent of the early decades of the Soviet Union should give pause to
> anyone who believes that surrendering ethnic hegemony does not carry risks.
> The Bolshevik revolution had a pronounced ethnic angle: To a very great
> extent, Jews and other non-Russians ruled over the Russian people, with
> disastrous consequences for the Russians and other ethnic groups that were not
> able to become part of the power structure. Jews formed a hostile elite within
> this power structure - as they will in the future white-minority America; Jews
> were "Stalin's willing executioners."
>
> Two passages from my review of Yuri Slezkine's The Jewish Century seem
> particularly appropriate here. The first passage reminds me of the many
> American Jews who adopt a veneer of support for causes of leftist versions of
> social justice and racial tolerance while nevertheless managing to support
> racial Zionism and the mass murder, torture, and incarceration of the
> Palestinians. Such people may be very different when they become a hostile
> elite in a white-minority America.
>
> Many of the commentators on Jewish Bolsheviks noted the "transformation" of
> Jews [after the Bolshevik Revolution]. In the words of [a] Jewish commentator,
> G. A. Landau, "cruelty, sadism, and violence had seemed alien to a nation so
> far removed from physical activity." And another Jewish commentator, Ia. A.
> Bromberg, noted that: the formerly oppressed lover of liberty had turned into
> a tyrant of "unheard-of-despotic arbitrariness". The convinced and
> unconditional opponent of the death penalty not just for political crimes but
> for the most heinous offenses, who could not, as it were, watch a chicken
> being killed, has been transformed outwardly into a leather-clad person with a
> revolver and, in fact, lost all human likeness. ...
>
> After the Revolution, ... there was active suppression of any remnants of the
> older order and their descendants. ... The mass murder of peasants and
> nationalists was combined with the systematic exclusion of the previously
> existing non-Jewish middle class. The wife of a Leningrad University professor
> noted, "in all the institutions, only workers and Israelites are admitted; the
> life of the intelligentsia is very hard" (p. 243). Even at the end of the
> 1930s, prior to the Russification that accompanied World War II, "the Russian
> Federationwas still doing penance for its imperial past while also serving as
> an example of an ethnicity- free society" (p. 276). While all other
> nationalities, including Jews, were allowed and encouraged to keep their
> ethnic identities, the revolution remained an anti-majoritarian movement.
>
> The difference from the Soviet Union may well be that in white- minority
> America it will not be workers and Israelites who are favored, but non-whites
> and Israelites. Whites may dream that they are entering the post-racial utopia
> imagined by their erstwhile intellectual superiors. But it is quite possible
> that they are entering into a racial dystopia of unimaginable cruelty in which
> whites will be systematically excluded in favor of the new elites recruited
> from the soon-to-be majority. It's happened before.
>
> Kevin MacDonald is a professor of psychology at California State
> University­Long Beach.
>
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mitch

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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:11:41 -0800, hpope wrote:
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And blindsidedness. The levantine religions are being abandoned by modern
young women who are seeking their own ethnic roots with 'wicca'. Which
makes the question of the Jews a dead issue.

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Novody cares.

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On Feb 14, 5:11 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
> On Feb 14, 3:31 pm, jazzerci...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
>
> >http://www.rense.com/general85/prob.htm
>
> > The Problem With Whites
> > By Kevin MacDonald
> > 2-13-9
>
> > America will soon have a white minority. This is a much desired state of
> > affairs for the hostile elites who hold political power and shape public

> > opinion. . . .

>
> > And it's not as if everyone is doing it. Only Western nations view their own

> > demographic and cultural eclipse as a moral imperative. . . .

I don't think it has anything to do with "hostile elites" or a "moral
imperative". Republicans like emigrants because they work cheaper and
Democrats like emigrants because they help them win elections.