Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

windows faxing

0 views
Skip to first unread message

noel888

unread,
Mar 28, 2010, 3:36:27 PM3/28/10
to
Hi everyone, i know that this may not be the right forum for this
question, but from past experience, this forum has a way to respond to
most questions in the fastest way. I am expecting an important fax
over my computer. I have windows XP fax program already installed. I
have a dsl modem where my telephone lint is going to the data
inport...i know when i had the old dial up i never had this problem,
but this is the first time i'm trying with a DSL modem. If I connect
that line that is going to my modem to my computer, won't i be 'off
line"? How else can i receive the fax then?

Rod Speed

unread,
Mar 28, 2010, 7:14:32 PM3/28/10
to
noel888 wrote:

Nope, it will work fine just like the voice phone does.

> How else can i receive the fax then?

You can get it sent to a fax receiving service that turns it into an email etc.


Shawn Hirn

unread,
Mar 28, 2010, 7:34:37 PM3/28/10
to
In article
<af4100cf-072f-4e2a...@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>,
noel888 <harri...@aol.com> wrote:

If you disconnect your DSL modem from your computer, you will be
off-line. Your best option is to use one of those online fax services or
have the sender scan in the document and email it to you. You can find
out about online fax services by googling for "online fax."

Gordon

unread,
Mar 29, 2010, 2:46:29 AM3/29/10
to
noel888 <harri...@aol.com> wrote in news:af4100cf-072f-4e2a-ac17-
af6ddf...@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com:

There is no reason why you can't have a fax/modem in your computer.
They work just fin right along side DSL.What you need to do is to
get a phone line splitter. It's a thing that you plug into a phone
jack and it provides two places to insert a phone cord. Be sure to
install a DSL filter on the phone cord that is going away from the
DSL modem. Then plug that into your fax/modem card.

In case you had a hard tim followint that...
Phone jack on wall -> Splitter -> DSL Modem
-> filter ->Fax/modem.

I got mine set up this way and it works just great for sending and
receiving the occasional fax.

noel888

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 9:33:01 AM3/30/10
to
On Mar 29, 2:46 am, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
> noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote in news:af4100cf-072f-4e2a-ac17-
> af6ddf381...@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com:

Well I followed your suggestion, i think i added a splitter to the
wall jack and had one wire going to my DSL internet , the other going
to my computer's "phone line'' and then sent a test to myself to see
if it works. I clicked on incoming box and the fax program says its
answering and after about a minute i get a message that an error
occurred while receiving the fax. No other message.. i was thinking
should i put one of the wires into my computer's 'phone' input instead
of phone line? Thanks

noel888

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 1:07:58 PM3/30/10
to

The continuing saga is that i now get a message that my line is busy,
as i am trying to send myself a fax as a test. BTW, cannot find a way
to end the transmission. ..all together...it keeps repeating to send
it. I went to tools/ of fax monitor and disconnect there, but it still
keeps repeating with that same message 'line is busy".

Rod Speed

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 2:48:05 PM3/30/10
to

Did you really leave out the filter on the fax line ? Thats essential.

> and then sent a test to myself to see if it works.

You cant send a fax to yourself to test it.

> I clicked on incoming box and the fax program says its
> answering and after about a minute i get a message that an error
> occurred while receiving the fax. No other message..

> i was thinking should i put one of the wires into my
> computer's 'phone' input instead of phone line?

Nope, your original config is correct, but that line must
have a filter on it, just like normal phones need one too.


Rod Speed

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 2:50:03 PM3/30/10
to

Yes, thats why you cant fax yourself like that.

> BTW, cannot find a way to end the transmission. ..
> all together...it keeps repeating to send it. I went
> to tools/ of fax monitor and disconnect there, but it still
> keeps repeating with that same message 'line is busy".

You need to delete that fax from the fax queue.


noel888

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 3:37:17 PM3/30/10
to

I do have a filter on that line.

SMS

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 3:49:41 PM3/30/10
to

You can connect the line going to the DSL modem to the RJ11 on the
FAX/Modem on the computer, but of course you can't send a FAX to
yourself because you're off-hook when you're sending it.

Use this service to test your FAX/modem:

"http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00259105&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=351106&dlc=en&lang=en"

1. Send a one page black and white text fax to 1-888-hpfaxme
(1-888-473-2963).

2. When your fax is received by the HP Test Fax Service, we will
generate a return fax to you within five minutes confirming that we
received your fax. This verifies that you can both send and receive a
fax with your fax machine.

If you find yourself frequently receiving or sending FAXes then sign up
for an account at faxaway.com. It's not free. They charge a $1 a month
fee. Incoming faxes are at no cost. Outgoing faxes in the Continental
U.S. are 11 cents/minute. You can FAX PDFs or Word documents. You can't
just sign up for $1 because the minimum they'll do a credit card charge
for is $10. It's a lot less expensive than eFAX, but if this is a
one-time thing you can sign up for the 30 day free trial of eFAX then
cancel before the 30 days are up. eFAX no longer offers a free account
with free incoming.

Rod Speed

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 5:42:38 PM3/30/10
to

Then try sending a fax to some other fax machine. You cant send one to yourself.


noel888

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 6:56:26 PM3/30/10
to

Thank you all it works just fine all this time wasted by me trying
to test one to myself. LOL
Happy holidays!!!

Gary Heston

unread,
Mar 30, 2010, 9:08:43 PM3/30/10
to
In article <39f223d7-4759-43cf...@d33g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,

noel888 <harri...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Mar 29, 2:46�am, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
[ ... ]

>> In case you had a hard tim followint that...
>> Phone jack on wall -> Splitter -> DSL Modem
>> � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � -> filter ->Fax/modem.

[ ... ]


>Well I followed your suggestion, i think i added a splitter to the
>wall jack and had one wire going to my DSL internet , the other going

>to my computer's "phone line'' [ ... ]

The splitter Gordon referred to is a DSL splitter, not just a
one-jack-into-two (1-2-2) type splitter. They look like the one
here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14345923

in the image about half-way down, plugged into the "Line" jack.
That blocks the DSL signal from interfering with the telephone
or fax signal. You need to plug one of those into one side of
the 1-2-2 splitter plugged into your wall jack, and your DSL
modem into the other. The jack on the DSL splitter is then
connected to your fax jack. If it has two jacks, you need the
one marked as "Line" or which has a graphic looking like a cord
plugged into a wall. The one marked "Phone" or which has a phone
graphic is disconnected internally when the fax is trying to use
the line to prevent interference.

This setup should allow you to send or receive faxes while online.


Gary

--
Gary Heston ghe...@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

"It's kind of hard to rally 'round a math class."
Paul "Bear" Bryant

noel888

unread,
Mar 31, 2010, 7:07:07 PM3/31/10
to
On Mar 30, 9:08 pm, ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
> Gary Heston  ghes...@hiwaay.net  http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

>
> "It's kind of hard to rally 'round a math class."
> Paul "Bear" Bryant

Well, I thank you for your info, but mine is working just fine with
the other common splitter as you mentioned, that is not what Gordon
was referring to...go figure. LOL I now have it disconnected cause I
do not use Fax that often...but one thing i was wondering about..its
apparent that i will not be able to use my phone or getting a call
while it is connected for fax. My fax is my home phone number. So
that's the drawback.

Rod Speed

unread,
Mar 31, 2010, 8:31:18 PM3/31/10
to

The better faxes handle that situation too.

Basically the fax picks up incoming calls and when it doesnt find an
incoming fax call, it rings the phone so you know its a voice call and
some of them even tell the caller with a recorded message tho wait
while a human answers the phone etc.

Corse if you dont get that many incoming calls, its generally better to
only have the fax connected when you are expecting an incoming fax.


Gordon

unread,
Apr 3, 2010, 3:59:52 AM4/3/10
to
ghe...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote in
news:oM2dnUlI6s8GPS_W...@posted.hiwaay2:

> The splitter Gordon referred to is a DSL splitter, not just a
> one-jack-into-two (1-2-2) type splitter. They look like the one
> here:

Actually no. I was refering to a generic phone line
2 to 1 phone line splitter. Not that I also said to
include a DSL filter in the line to the modem.

Althought a POTS splitter would work.

Gordon

unread,
Apr 3, 2010, 4:03:27 AM4/3/10
to
noel888 <harri...@aol.com> wrote in news:44b8739a-b353-48fd-8ea2-
fe67ca...@d34g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:

> Well, I thank you for your info, but mine is working just fine with
> the other common splitter as you mentioned, that is not what Gordon
> was referring to...go figure. LOL I now have it disconnected cause I
> do not use Fax that often...but one thing i was wondering about..its
> apparent that i will not be able to use my phone or getting a call
> while it is connected for fax. My fax is my home phone number. So
> that's the drawback.

I keep my fax/modem connected all the time even though I only
send a few faxes a year, and receive a fax only once every
(oh) five years. The fax software doesn't normally run,
I fire it up when I need it. So it doesn't try to auto answer
when a call comes in. To receive a fax, I use the manual
receive function.

0 new messages