Used cars getting more expensive

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/used-car-prices-are-weirdly-spiking-and-tariffs-may-be-to-blame.html?recirc=taboolainternal

[gggg...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 12:45:11 AM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/used-car-prices-are-weirdly-spiking-and-tariffs-may-be-to-blame.html?recirc=taboolainternal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRAJwaLV-iU

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[kend...@outlook.com]

There are strange multiple social forces pushing to eliminate non-new cars.
It might be useful to know the source.

[The Real Bev]

On 02/01/2020 09:21 AM, kend...@outlook.com wrote:
> There are strange multiple social forces pushing to eliminate non-new cars.
> It might be useful to know the source.

Same people who push road diets, complete streets, and in general the
get-those-lazy-sonsabitches-outta-their-fuckin-cars jerks.

--
Cheers, Bev
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely and in a
well preserved body, but to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
and shouting HOLY SHIT, WHAT A RIDE!!!

[rbowman]

On 02/01/2020 12:00 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 02/01/2020 09:21 AM, kend...@outlook.com wrote:
>> There are strange multiple social forces pushing to eliminate non-new
>> cars.
>> It might be useful to know the source.
>
> Same people who push road diets, complete streets, and in general the
> get-those-lazy-sonsabitches-outta-their-fuckin-cars jerks.
>

Obama's Cash for Clunkers destroyed a number of perfectly good vehicles
in an attempt to drive up new car sales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj2cD8Q5hS8

Apparently the politicians never read Bastiat.

I've been casually looking a new cars. I have a real problem. There is a
long list of crap I have no desire to have in a car. Somehow I've
managed to drive for over 50 years without lane control, forward
collision avoidance, automatic braking, backup cameras, and so forth.
Not having a smart phone, I don't give a damn if the 'infotainment'
system has Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, or Bluetooth. Someplace where I
can stick in a thumb drive loaded with MP3s would be nice.

Then there is the next problem. Most of the cars are either
indistinguishable bland blobs or the designers have went out of their
way to beat them with an ugly stick to make them more 'aggressive'.
Sorry, I'm the aggressive part of the picture and I don't need the car
to look like a star wars lander.

And lastly, if there is something I might be interested in the local
dealers don't carry it. If it's not a SUV or crossover forget about it.

So that leads to my interest in used cars with the features I want but
they don't seem to be that less expensive than a new car.

[The Real Bev]

On 02/01/2020 04:10 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 02/01/2020 12:00 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 02/01/2020 09:21 AM, kend...@outlook.com wrote:
>>> There are strange multiple social forces pushing to eliminate non-new
>>> cars.
>>> It might be useful to know the source.
>>
>> Same people who push road diets, complete streets, and in general the
>> get-those-lazy-sonsabitches-outta-their-fuckin-cars jerks.
>
> Obama's Cash for Clunkers destroyed a number of perfectly good vehicles
> in an attempt to drive up new car sales.

More likely force people into public transportation. That seems to be
the big thing now. Or bicycles or walking, no matter how impractical or
uncomfortable.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj2cD8Q5hS8
>
> Apparently the politicians never read Bastiat.
>
> I've been casually looking a new cars. I have a real problem. There is a
> long list of crap I have no desire to have in a car. Somehow I've
> managed to drive for over 50 years without lane control, forward
> collision avoidance, automatic braking, backup cameras, and so forth.
> Not having a smart phone, I don't give a damn if the 'infotainment'
> system has Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, or Bluetooth. Someplace where I
> can stick in a thumb drive loaded with MP3s would be nice.
>
> Then there is the next problem. Most of the cars are either
> indistinguishable bland blobs or the designers have went out of their
> way to beat them with an ugly stick to make them more 'aggressive'.
> Sorry, I'm the aggressive part of the picture and I don't need the car
> to look like a star wars lander.
>
> And lastly, if there is something I might be interested in the local
> dealers don't carry it. If it's not a SUV or crossover forget about it.
>
> So that leads to my interest in used cars with the features I want but
> they don't seem to be that less expensive than a new car.

Our 1970 Dodge pickup is easy to work on. The 1983 Sentra the State
bought could have been repaired again, but I had no hope that it
wouldn't have continuing problems. The 1988 Caddy I inherited from my
mom was a lethal POS and would have deserved the $1K crushing it got
except for its completely new brake system and tires, which SHOULD have
been saved.

I wondered about buying a cheap car intended for the third world. No
fancy breakable doodads. Easily fixable without sophisticated
diagnostic equipment. Good gas mileage without smog-control
entanglements... Can we even buy cars like that here?

Instead I bought a 2013 Corolla. I never want to have to fix a car
again. I guess the only 'modern' part that I actually use is the radio,
which accepts a USB stick full of audiobooks. The remote lock/unlock
feature (press the key, not just approach the car) is amazingly
addictive, a surprise. I like the gas mileage.

Given my druthers I'd drive a Honda S2000 or a new Dodge Challenger, but
I suspect they'd need more fixing than the Corolla, and the Corolla does
a great job of normal and mountain driving. I do love driving my
friend's S2000, though. And the Tesla 3 (a friend's) acceleration was
orgasmic!

--
Cheers, Bev
Judges are our only protection against a legal system that can
afford lots more prosecution than we can afford defense.

[rbowman]

On 02/01/2020 09:18 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 02/01/2020 04:10 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 02/01/2020 12:00 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 02/01/2020 09:21 AM, kend...@outlook.com wrote:
>>>> There are strange multiple social forces pushing to eliminate non-new
>>>> cars.
>>>> It might be useful to know the source.
>>>
>>> Same people who push road diets, complete streets, and in general the
>>> get-those-lazy-sonsabitches-outta-their-fuckin-cars jerks.
>>
>> Obama's Cash for Clunkers destroyed a number of perfectly good vehicles
>> in an attempt to drive up new car sales.
>
> More likely force people into public transportation. That seems to be
> the big thing now. Or bicycles or walking, no matter how impractical or
> uncomfortable.

The problem with that is urban sprawls like LA don't have public
transportation to speak of. The city has free bus service that is
financed by a number of local businesses and organizations.

https://www.mountainline.com/zero-fare/

They've also started rolling out electric buses. The problem for me is I
live about 10 miles from the nearest bus stop. I sometimes ride to town
on my bicycle but it usually turns out to be a 30 mile round trip.

> Our 1970 Dodge pickup is easy to work on. The 1983 Sentra the State
> bought could have been repaired again, but I had no hope that it
> wouldn't have continuing problems. The 1988 Caddy I inherited from my
> mom was a lethal POS and would have deserved the $1K crushing it got
> except for its completely new brake system and tires, which SHOULD have
> been saved.

I've got a semi-retired '86 F-150 that is fairly easy. It does have some
rudimentary electronics that I've thought about replacing with an older
distributor and carb.

>
> I wondered about buying a cheap car intended for the third world. No
> fancy breakable doodads. Easily fixable without sophisticated
> diagnostic equipment. Good gas mileage without smog-control
> entanglements... Can we even buy cars like that here?

Not a chance. I read some reviews on Top Gear about the best small cars.
Top Gear is a UK site so of the 10 six were out, the Fiat Panda, several
Renaults and Peugeots, and a Suzuki. I'm not sure about the Ford Fiesta.
There may be some 2019's but I don't think there are 2020's after Ford
switched to SUVs and pickups in the US. I don't know if the Kia Picanto
is imported but the VW Up and its variants aren't.

My brother had a Tercel he loved but finally it failed the California
smog test and repairs would be more than the car was worth. He gave it
to one of those charities so it probably is happily living in South America.

> Instead I bought a 2013 Corolla. I never want to have to fix a car
> again. I guess the only 'modern' part that I actually use is the radio,
> which accepts a USB stick full of audiobooks. The remote lock/unlock
> feature (press the key, not just approach the car) is amazingly
> addictive, a surprise. I like the gas mileage.

I bought a Yaris in '07 that was totaled when a kid with a snowplow on a
pickup ran into me. I replaced it with a '11. It's red and has an
automatic which aren't high points but the month I needed it was the
month Japan had a nuclear meltdown so I took what I could get.

I like hatchbacks and there is a Corolla hatch. The first thing I do is
fold the rear seats down and they're never seen again so I lean toward 2
(or 3 depending on how they count) door models. The only new one in town
is a loaded XSE.

> Given my druthers I'd drive a Honda S2000 or a new Dodge Challenger, but
> I suspect they'd need more fixing than the Corolla, and the Corolla does
> a great job of normal and mountain driving. I do love driving my
> friend's S2000, though. And the Tesla 3 (a friend's) acceleration was
> orgasmic!

The S2000 was another casualty of the meltdown as was the Pontiac
Solstice. The Solstice had a few problems than might have been sorted
out had it lived. The Toyota 86, which used to be a Scion, isn't the
hottest car in the world but it is RWD and should be fun.

I do find the Challenger interesting. I've had a Mustang, a Firebird,
and a Camaro but never a Challenger. Of the three I think it has the
most room to carry my camping gear and so forth. The Mustang was a '73,
the last year before the Mustang II abortions. I went grocery shopping
with a friend and when we came out with a cartful and I popped the trunk
she said 'I don't think this is the sort of car someone interested in a
woman with kids drives.' She was right.

[The Real Bev]

On 02/02/2020 10:35 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On 02/01/2020 09:18 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 02/01/2020 04:10 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On 02/01/2020 12:00 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 02/01/2020 09:21 AM, kend...@outlook.com wrote:
>>>>> There are strange multiple social forces pushing to eliminate non-new
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> It might be useful to know the source.
>>>>
>>>> Same people who push road diets, complete streets, and in general the
>>>> get-those-lazy-sonsabitches-outta-their-fuckin-cars jerks.
>>>
>>> Obama's Cash for Clunkers destroyed a number of perfectly good vehicles
>>> in an attempt to drive up new car sales.
>>
>> More likely force people into public transportation. That seems to be
>> the big thing now. Or bicycles or walking, no matter how impractical or
>> uncomfortable.
>
> The problem with that is urban sprawls like LA don't have public
> transportation to speak of. The city has free bus service that is
> financed by a number of local businesses and organizations.

Public transport just doesn't go where I need to go, for the most part.
A half-hour drive to my daughter's house is a multi-modal travesty
that takes 5 hours. Nope. Light-rail station is about 1/4 mile away,
as are most of the destinations I take it to, but at 35 cents/ride I'm
willing to walk when I can. Parking is typically more than $6/hour, and
I'm not going to pay one thin dime to park unless I absolutely have to.

Didn't we fight the goddam Revolution for convenient personal
transportation? I know *I* did!

>> I wondered about buying a cheap car intended for the third world. No
>> fancy breakable doodads. Easily fixable without sophisticated
>> diagnostic equipment. Good gas mileage without smog-control
>> entanglements... Can we even buy cars like that here?
>
> Not a chance. I read some reviews on Top Gear about the best small cars.
> Top Gear is a UK site so of the 10 six were out, the Fiat Panda, several
> Renaults and Peugeots, and a Suzuki. I'm not sure about the Ford Fiesta.
> There may be some 2019's but I don't think there are 2020's after Ford
> switched to SUVs and pickups in the US. I don't know if the Kia Picanto
> is imported but the VW Up and its variants aren't.
>
> My brother had a Tercel he loved but finally it failed the California
> smog test and repairs would be more than the car was worth. He gave it
> to one of those charities so it probably is happily living in South America.

I have to wonder how those things work. Do the cars have to be
repairable? The Caddy had brand new brakes and tires which could have
been of use to SOMEONE.

>> Instead I bought a 2013 Corolla. I never want to have to fix a car
>> again. I guess the only 'modern' part that I actually use is the radio,
>> which accepts a USB stick full of audiobooks. The remote lock/unlock
>> feature (press the key, not just approach the car) is amazingly
>> addictive, a surprise. I like the gas mileage.
>
> I bought a Yaris in '07 that was totaled when a kid with a snowplow on a
> pickup ran into me. I replaced it with a '11. It's red and has an
> automatic which aren't high points but the month I needed it was the
> month Japan had a nuclear meltdown so I took what I could get.

We rented a Yaris for a 3-week ski+tour trip to/around Utah. Packed to
the roof + 2 people it still hit 90 when passing with no problem and
managed to negotiate the "road" in the bottom of Monument Valley with
much dignity and only a little scraping. Nice little car.

> I like hatchbacks and there is a Corolla hatch. The first thing I do is
> fold the rear seats down and they're never seen again so I lean toward 2
> (or 3 depending on how they count) door models. The only new one in town
> is a loaded XSE.

Sentra was a hatchback, and the rear seats were also down most of the
time. I like the fold-down rear seats on the Corolla -- I can fit my
skis in the trunk!

>> Given my druthers I'd drive a Honda S2000 or a new Dodge Challenger, but
>> I suspect they'd need more fixing than the Corolla, and the Corolla does
>> a great job of normal and mountain driving. I do love driving my
>> friend's S2000, though. And the Tesla 3 (a friend's) acceleration was
>> orgasmic!
>
> The S2000 was another casualty of the meltdown as was the Pontiac
> Solstice.

Friend has race tires on her S2000. Never a squeal on the mountain
roads. Most fun I've ever had in a car.

> I do find the Challenger interesting. I've had a Mustang,

I drove a friend's 67 or 68 Mustang. OK, but nothing special. He
invested big bucks in restoring it TWICE, but didn't drive it much
because his girlfriend/wife didn't like the rattles.

> a Firebird,
> and a Camaro but never a Challenger. Of the three I think it has the
> most room to carry my camping gear and so forth. The Mustang was a '73,
> the last year before the Mustang II abortions. I went grocery shopping
> with a friend and when we came out with a cartful and I popped the trunk
> she said 'I don't think this is the sort of car someone interested in a
> woman with kids drives.' She was right.

That's why we all need several cars. The Corolla is a good compromise,
but the seat is about 2" too short. You just can't see out of new cars
very well. The other day I was supposed to back up between a couple of
rows of cars for maybe 200 feet and I couldn't see one of the rows at
all no matter how far I twisted. The damn headrest does NOT need to be
that tall. So I yelled at the guy who was blocking forward motion and
made him move, but I don't like that kind of limitation.

--
Cheers, Bev
"Americans are looking for more government in their life,
not less." -- Colin Powell, former Good Guy

[rbowman]

On 02/02/2020 12:35 PM, Derald wrote:
> Well, I guess I'm driving the car of your dreams: A 1989
> Mercedes-Benz 260E—that's the one with only one windshield wiper. It's
> a comfortable, quite conventional mid-sized 4-door sedan with
> exceptional performance (on fatass Michelin Crossclimate tires, it goes
> fast as hell safely and without a lot of fuss) and better-than-decent
> fuel mileage. No USB port (but it does have a magazine-loading CD
> changer) and the central locking system requires a key for access from
> outside the vehicle; damn.

There is the matter of style... In that era I'd try to scout up a
Cadillac Allante. The R107 SL's aren't bad looking either but tend to
run more than the Caddies. I don't know which would be more of a
maintenance nightmare.

I'm getting to the point where any car I buy will probably be the last
one I buy and that makes me a little pickier.

[rbowman]

On 02/02/2020 01:58 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> Public transport just doesn't go where I need to go, for the most part.
> A half-hour drive to my daughter's house is a multi-modal travesty that
> takes 5 hours. Nope. Light-rail station is about 1/4 mile away, as are
> most of the destinations I take it to, but at 35 cents/ride I'm willing
> to walk when I can. Parking is typically more than $6/hour, and I'm not
> going to pay one thin dime to park unless I absolutely have to.

When I had a long term contract in Boston I would rent a room or
apartment. At various times I was in Allston, Somerville, and on Beacon
Hill, and I would be working in Cambridge or Somerville. Theoretically
public transportation was available but I would walk. I enjoy walking
and particularly in the evening hours where the trains and buses run
less frequently it was faster.

> I have to wonder how those things work. Do the cars have to be
> repairable? The Caddy had brand new brakes and tires which could have
> been of use to SOMEONE.

They could have made a nice pickup out of it in Mexico. Say what you
will Mexicans tend to have the inventiveness Americans had 100 years
ago. They see a problem and solve it with materials at hand. There's a
lot to be said for not knowing the 'right' way to do things. Cubans are
no slouches either:

http://www.floatingcubans.com/

A friend had a '59 Buick deuce and a quarter that I always thought drove
like a boat, but I never tried to take it for a cruise off pavement.

> We rented a Yaris for a 3-week ski+tour trip to/around Utah. Packed to
> the roof + 2 people it still hit 90 when passing with no problem and
> managed to negotiate the "road" in the bottom of Monument Valley with
> much dignity and only a little scraping. Nice little car.

I think the '07 with the 5 speed manual was a little peppier than the
'11 with the 4 speed auto but it holds its own. The interstate limit in
Montana and several of the adjoining states is 80, and it has no problem
although the fuel economy suffers.

When I had the '07 I played with a Mini Cooper on Highway 1 down past
Big Sur. Some tourists might have dove off the overlooks as we screamed
by but I was still in the lead when the Mini turned off at a restaurant.

https://jalopnik.com/this-adorably-intense-japanese-yaris-race-is-everything-1822197728

It's not NASCAR but it looks like a lot of fun and it doesn't cost a
million bucks to go racing. TRD has a few goodies and there are plenty
of aftermarket options.

Depending on the season, the back of mine has skis, snowshoes, a
Montague Paratrooper bike, camping gear, an Advanced Elements inflatable
kayak in some combination, plus the usual ax, e-tool, water, rations,
cooking gear, Israeli battle dressings, QuikClot, light sticks, and all
that other never leave home without it stuff.

Except for the limited clearance it goes anywhere I want to go.

> Sentra was a hatchback, and the rear seats were also down most of the
> time. I like the fold-down rear seats on the Corolla -- I can fit my
> skis in the trunk!

Pass through trunk? I had a Geo sedan that I could get skis into, but
not a bicycle. A bike carrier on the trunk lid was a pain. That's what I
like about a hatch. The Montague is a full size mountain bike but it
folds and I can get it inside with no problem.

Love those hatchbacks. I traded a Camaro in on a Firebird in '82 when
they came out with a hatchback. I could even get a sheet of plywood in
that thing.

> Friend has race tires on her S2000. Never a squeal on the mountain
> roads. Most fun I've ever had in a car.

The Miatas look like fun but that's the other end of practicality. I had
a Sprite back in the day that had slightly more cargo capacity than a
motorcycle.

> I drove a friend's 67 or 68 Mustang. OK, but nothing special. He
> invested big bucks in restoring it TWICE, but didn't drive it much
> because his girlfriend/wife didn't like the rattles.

The early ones were mostly a pretty Falcon. By '73 they'd gotten fat,
but it was a comfortable ride despite sucking in snow. Big engine with
all the weight on the front wheels. Then came the second generation
which was a Pinto in wolf's clothing. I went for a Camaro instead.

> That's why we all need several cars.

Well, I've got three bikes and the pickup. I can only drive one at a
time and my insurance man won't give me a fleet discount. I had one of
the bikes out yesterday which for February 1 in Montana isn't too
shabby. Go global warming!

[The Real Bev]

On 02/02/2020 05:51 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 02/02/2020 01:58 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> They could have made a nice pickup out of it in Mexico. Say what you
> will Mexicans tend to have the inventiveness Americans had 100 years
> ago. They see a problem and solve it with materials at hand. There's a
> lot to be said for not knowing the 'right' way to do things. Cubans are
> no slouches either:

Daughter is a tour director -- the person who figures out how to get
your passport when you left it in the hotel 200 miles away from the
cruise ship you're supposed to be on tomorrow. She led two tours to
Cuba during the very short open period and liked it a lot. The second
trip she brought a lot of guitar strings and clothing to the people
she'd met there. Everything was in short supply, but the people were
inventive.

>> We rented a Yaris for a 3-week ski+tour trip to/around Utah. Packed to
>> the roof + 2 people it still hit 90 when passing with no problem and
>> managed to negotiate the "road" in the bottom of Monument Valley with
>> much dignity and only a little scraping. Nice little car.
>
> I think the '07 with the 5 speed manual was a little peppier than the
> '11 with the 4 speed auto but it holds its own. The interstate limit in
> Montana and several of the adjoining states is 80, and it has no problem
> although the fuel economy suffers.

I love Utah. It has more cool stuff than anywhere in the US, and
probably the world! PLUS 80mph speed limits.

>> Friend has race tires on her S2000. Never a squeal on the mountain
>> roads. Most fun I've ever had in a car.
>
> The Miatas look like fun but that's the other end of practicality. I had
> a Sprite back in the day that had slightly more cargo capacity than a
> motorcycle.

Other friend has a Miata that the previous owner had set up for the Long
Beach Grand Prix. She fell in love with it but didn't know how to drive
stick, so I got to drive it before she did. HARSH suspension.
Unpleasant. Not so the S2000.

> The early ones were mostly a pretty Falcon. By '73 they'd gotten fat,
> but it was a comfortable ride despite sucking in snow. Big engine with
> all the weight on the front wheels. Then came the second generation
> which was a Pinto in wolf's clothing. I went for a Camaro instead.

Whoever designs Camaros gets it exactly right. Probably the same guy
who designs Challengers. Other cars are cute, but those two are special.

>> That's why we all need several cars.
>
> Well, I've got three bikes and the pickup. I can only drive one at a
> time and my insurance man won't give me a fleet discount. I had one of
> the bikes out yesterday which for February 1 in Montana isn't too
> shabby. Go global warming!

We used to ride around Gorman every summer weekend and Kennedy Meadows a
couple of times. I don't think I could do that any more, but we still
have the bikes and our son got them running a few months ago. I could
probably do dirt roads, though...

--
Cheers, Bev
Hmph. I used to have snow tires. Never again. They melted in the
spring. I won't even start going on about my wood stove.
-- websurf1

[rbowman]

On 02/02/2020 11:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> I love Utah. It has more cool stuff than anywhere in the US, and
> probably the world! PLUS 80mph speed limits.

As long as you stay out of SLC. My brother lived in Ogden in the '60s
and Salt Lake was a nice little city. Now it's LA East except the people
can't drive. I've ridden a bicycle around the area a couple of times and
learned most people consider a stop sign to be a suggestion.

There are interesting places but some are zoos. I came up through there
last June and had a pleasant time at Canyonlands. It was hot enough the
tourists were elsewhere. I'd been to Arches before but was going to stop
until I saw the 1/2 mile line at the entrance. That's where the tourists
go apparently. Dinosaur NM was fairly quiet too.

[The Real Bev]

On 02/03/2020 06:58 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On 02/02/2020 11:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> I love Utah. It has more cool stuff than anywhere in the US, and
>> probably the world! PLUS 80mph speed limits.
>
> As long as you stay out of SLC. My brother lived in Ogden in the '60s
> and Salt Lake was a nice little city. Now it's LA East except the people
> can't drive. I've ridden a bicycle around the area a couple of times and
> learned most people consider a stop sign to be a suggestion.

Cities are where you go when you have to buy something only available in
cities. Maybe different when you're young and haven't seen the big ones
yet.

> There are interesting places but some are zoos. I came up through there
> last June and had a pleasant time at Canyonlands. It was hot enough the
> tourists were elsewhere. I'd been to Arches before but was going to stop
> until I saw the 1/2 mile line at the entrance. That's where the tourists
> go apparently. Dinosaur NM was fairly quiet too.

Ski season is good for touring. Because of the unexpected traffic in
Moab we got to Arches with a 2-hour window before they closed -- road
repair would cut off the exit. NOT the way we wanted to see it, but it
will be there next time we want to go.

--
Cheers, Bev
Save the whales for dessert

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> https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/25/the-auto-industrys-ticking-timebomb-how-plunging-u.aspx

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On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 12:45:11 AM UTC-7, ...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/used-car-prices-are-weirdly-spiking-and-tariffs-may-be-to-blame.html?recirc=taboolainternal

Used Cars Prices BANKRUPTING Middle Class | Breaking Points

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On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 12:45:11 AM UTC-7, ..@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/used-car-prices-are-weirdly-spiking-and-tariffs-may-be-to-blame.html?recirc=taboolainternal

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