I want to spend less than $4,000 on a back yard shed!
Ohioguy
them are built using particle board. Some of them even had particle
board as the floor!!! I also noticed that the joists were held together
without nails or screws for the most part - they used a metal joiner
plate that was pounded on, to hopefully hold them together. When I
pushed my weight against the wood, there was typically a lot more
movement than I was comfortable with. It's probably because they used
1.5" x 3" studs, rather than actual 2x4's.
I started looking at the metal buildings as well, but the side metal
was so thin that when I pushed on it a bit, it left a big dent. I could
just see what that metal shed would look like after 5 years of use -
dented all over. I would have gladly purchased it for 75% more, if they
just made the siding metal twice as thick.
Basically, here is what I want:
1) simplicity
2) heavy duty
3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less)
4) shed style roof (slightly slanted, single plane)
Anyone know of some simple plans that would give me this? Thanks!
Foo Fighter
Ohioguy <no...@none.net> wrote:
we built a shed out of pallets. you can find them 8 feet long. Then we
covered it in left over shingles people give away on Craigslist.
Cost $25 for nails , hinges etc.
good luck and Recycle!
--
Karma, What a concept!
Rod Speed
> I went to Lowe's and Home Depot to look at the sheds. About 80% of
> them are built using particle board. Some of them even had particle
> board as the floor!!! I also noticed that the joists were held
> together without nails or screws for the most part - they used a
> metal joiner plate that was pounded on, to hopefully hold them
> together. When I pushed my weight against the wood, there was
> typically a lot more movement than I was comfortable with. It's
> probably because they used 1.5" x 3" studs, rather than actual 2x4's.
> I started looking at the metal buildings as well, but the side metal
> was so thin that when I pushed on it a bit, it left a big dent. I
> could just see what that metal shed would look like after 5 years of
> use - dented all over. I would have gladly purchased it for 75%
> more, if they just made the siding metal twice as thick.
> Basically, here is what I want:
> 1) simplicity
> 2) heavy duty
> 3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less)
You get all that with a shipping container.
> 4) shed style roof (slightly slanted, single plane)
No point in requiring that, but you can add one to a shipping container if you insist on that.
> Anyone know of some simple plans that would give me this? Thanks!
You dont need plans, just get a shipping container.
You dont need plans if you want to make it yourself either.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Basically, here is what I want:
>
> > 1) simplicity
> > 2) heavy duty
> > 3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less)
>
> You get all that with a shipping container.
Just where do you get one that cheap in ohio?
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Basically, here is what I want:
>>> 1) simplicity
>>> 2) heavy duty
>>> 3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less)
>> You get all that with a shipping container.
> Just where do you get one that cheap in ohio?
From anywhere that gets stuff in them.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
And I ask once again, due to your inability to actually answer questions: where
Lou
"Ohioguy" <no...@none.net> wrote in message
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$1,400 doesn't sound cheap to me. And they use those metal joiner plates to
build houses.
When I bought my first house, it didn't have a shed. The first summer I
went out and bought a metal shed at K-Mart. This was some 30-odd years ago,
I don't remember the price back then, but I think it was less than $150.
Comparable sheds are probably in $500-$600 range today. Just tall enough
for me to stand in, though I had to nod my head to get in the door. The
metal was thin, when you lifted a sidewall panel it flopped over like paper.
Took me two days to put together (there were a couple of pieces that I
couldn't reach around, so my wife had to hold things for a total of about an
hour while I screwed stuff together), no foundation, just sitting on dirt,
no floor. I used it to keep stuff like the lawn mower, rototiller, bicycle,
wheelbarrow, miscellaneous lawn & garden tools, out of the rain. 10 years
later I sold the house, and the shed still looked pretty much the way it did
when I first put it together, though the paint had faded somewhat. I'm sure
that if I had given one of the walls a good shove, it would have dented, but
I never did, and so it didn't either. Last time I drove by the place (a few
years ago) it was still there.
These things are light. One of my neighbors had a similar shed, and he'd
installed a tie-down kit to keep it from blowing away in a high wind. I'd
never bothered with a tie down kit. One summer afternoon we had a
hellacious storm. His shed snapped the tie downs, went rolling across the
yard, and over the fence. Got pretty banged up, was nothing but junk. Boy,
was he p****d, but not because it had blown away - he was bent all out of
shape because mine didn't budge at all.
A metal shed might not serve your wants, but it might fit your needs pretty
well. Or not.
Fake ID
Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Ohioguy wrote:
>
>> 4) shed style roof (slightly slanted, single plane)
>
>No point in requiring that, but you can add one to a shipping container
>if you insist on that.
And really cheap if you don't mind a slanted floor.
m
Gary Heston
>them are built using particle board. Some of them even had particle
>board as the floor!!! I also noticed that the joists were held together
>without nails or screws for the most part - they used a metal joiner
>plate that was pounded on, to hopefully hold them together. When I
>pushed my weight against the wood, there was typically a lot more
>movement than I was comfortable with. It's probably because they used
>1.5" x 3" studs, rather than actual 2x4's.
You do realize that "an actual 2x4" is really 1.5" x 3.5", don't you?
> Basically, here is what I want:
>
>1) simplicity
>2) heavy duty
>3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less)
>4) shed style roof (slightly slanted, single plane)
You didn't mention a size; a 6' x 6' shed could easily be built for
$1400 or less.
> Anyone know of some simple plans that would give me this? Thanks!
Do a search for "shed plans" and take your pick. Modify to adapt to your
needs.
The local Habitat for Humanity organization sells sheds (building them
is good practice for new volunteers). You might check with the one in
your area.
Gary
The Real Bev
> Ohioguy<no...@none.net> wrote:
>
>> Basically, here is what I want:
>>
>>1) simplicity
>>2) heavy duty
>>3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less)
>>4) shed style roof (slightly slanted, single plane)
>
> If you insist on a traditional style shed, build it yourself. If you need
> plans in order to do that, then hire it done.
>
> +1 for shipping container. I have a 20-footer and space (AWA plans) for two
> more. $1,200 delivered in 2006. Constructed of Corten (a rust-restant steel,
> with two gasketed doors, epoxy "paint", 1.25" plywood floor on steel joists, at
> 4,960 pounds, it's pretty much everything -resistant, although, I did attach
> hurricane bands/anchors.
I would love to have a couple of those. Fat chance of the City Fathers
allowing them, though, even if we could solve the problem of horsing
them down the driveway and then making a sharp right angle left :-( I
suspect you could even make decent room additions out of them.
Pallets: Beware of possible termites. I don't know how you'd recognize
them or get rid of them, but you probably don't want to bring them home.
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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
wrote:
> On 04/07/11 15:37, Derald wrote:
>
> > Ohioguy<no...@none.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Basically, here is what I want:
> >>
> >>1) simplicity 2) heavy duty 3) inexpensive (~$1,400 or less) 4) shed style
> >>roof (slightly slanted, single plane)
> >
> > If you insist on a traditional style shed, build it yourself. If you need
> > plans in order to do that, then hire it done.
> >
> > +1 for shipping container. I have a 20-footer and space (AWA plans) for
> > two more. $1,200 delivered in 2006. Constructed of Corten (a rust-restant
> > steel, with two gasketed doors, epoxy "paint", 1.25" plywood floor on steel
> > joists, at 4,960 pounds, it's pretty much everything -resistant, although,
> > I did attach hurricane bands/anchors.
>
> I would love to have a couple of those. Fat chance of the City Fathers
> allowing them, though, even if we could solve the problem of horsing them
> down the driveway and then making a sharp right angle left :-( I suspect you
> could even make decent room additions out of them.
That's what cranes are for.
Ohioguy
> them or get rid of them, but you probably don't want to bring them home.
You're not kidding - the pallets around here are about 6' max, and
made of really thin wood. Considering that I saw loads of termites in
the soil about 10 feet away from where the shed is going, pallets would
probably be a very, very short term shed solution.
I should probably also add that whatever I end up doing needs to pass
inspection. There is a city inspector that drives past slowly about
once a month, peering into back yards here, and looking for an excuse to
have a nice "meeting" with anybody. That's what folks around here get
in exchange for voting to go from a township to a city. That, and a
1.5% income tax that didn't exist before.
I will definitely look into a shipping container as well - that would
seem to be rather sturdy and termite resistant. However, I'm not sure
if they are easy to come by here in Ohio.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
wrote:
Just contact Rod Speed, he's positive it won't be a problem so I'm assuming he
has a readily available list of suppliers
Jeff
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www.occontainer.com (Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, et al)
Rod Speed
Yes they are, because most stuff that comes into Ohio comes in them.
Park on the highway or the railway for a while and you will see them all coming in.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
You will also see more semis carrying cargo. But do provide a link as to where
Ohioguy can actually purchase one in Ohio, you seem to be having trouble doing
that, old fella
Jeff Thies
There is already a link for OC Container in this thread, which I believe
OG is close to Columbus.
For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has to do
some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?
Jeff
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
wrote:
> There is already a link for OC Container in this thread, which I believe
> OG is close to Columbus.
Yes I saw it
>
> For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has to do
> some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?
Certainly Ohioguy seems to not be able to google anything himself, but in fact
speed offered nothing but opinion and conjecture, as usual and I was just
rubbing it in.
Rod Speed
> Jeff Thies <jeff_...@att.net> wrote
>> There is already a link for OC Container in this thread,
>> which I believe OG is close to Columbus.
> Yes I saw it
No point in me repeating whats already been posted, fuckwit.
>> For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has
>> to do some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?
> Certainly Ohioguy seems to not be able to google anything himself,
> but in fact speed offered nothing but opinion and conjecture,
Wrong. I have enough of a clue to realise that EVERYONE
uses shipping containers, even Ohio.
> as usual
> and I was just rubbing it in.
Just making a spectacular of yourself, as always, in fact.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Jeff Thies <jeff_...@att.net> wrote
>
> >> There is already a link for OC Container in this thread,
> >> which I believe OG is close to Columbus.
>
> > Yes I saw it
>
> No point in me repeating whats already been posted, fuckwit.
But there was a point in asking you to post it before someone else did,
something that you are congenitally unable to do, old fella
>
> >> For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has
> >> to do some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?
>
> > Certainly Ohioguy seems to not be able to google anything himself,
> > but in fact speed offered nothing but opinion and conjecture,
>
> Wrong. I have enough of a clue to realise that EVERYONE
> uses shipping containers, even Ohio.
But you had no clue where Ohioguy could actually get on in Ohio. That was the
question posted to you old fella
>
> > as usual
>
> > and I was just rubbing it in.
>
> Just making a spectacular of yourself, as always, in fact.
"Making a spectacular of yourself", Yes in fact I am spectacular, you on the
other hand are a consummate fool. Do learn how to complete your pathetic flames.
sms
to your house and build a custom shed for not much more than the junk
sold at the big box stores. However for an 8 x 10 you're looking at
around $2000 in my area, installed on a level surface. You could build
it yourself for about $800 in materials.
<http://www.buildeazy.com/shed_1.html>.
One thing to avoid at all costs is using a steel shipping container as a
shed. Unless you buy a new one, for $4000 or so, you'll end up with a
leaking, rusting, rotting, piece of junk. Also, depending on where you
live, it almost certainly is not allowed by the city code. Cities (and
neighbors) tend to overlook sheds that are slightly out of compliance in
terms of square feet and setback, but they would not overlook a shipping
container.
j
<snip>
Cities (and
> neighbors) tend to overlook sheds that are slightly out of compliance in
> terms of square feet and setback,
A minimum of lumber in a post and beam fashion and walls of fencing. Not
much money in it.
The building inspector came out (I'm in a major city) and gave it a good
look and had no problems.
Jeff
Rod Speed
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of water thru many of the houses. Many of those did use a steel shipping
contain to keep the contents of the house in while the house was stripped
out and had the floors and bottom half of the walls replaced, including a
mate
of mine who lived in his mobile home in the front yard while that happened.
Nothing wrong with the shipping container.
> Also, depending on where you live, it almost certainly is not allowed by
> the city code.
the worst of the cheap sheds you can buy and take home for dead
and I know that because I used one when I was building my own
house from scratch, bare block of land.
> Cities (and neighbors) tend to overlook sheds that are slightly out of
> compliance in terms of square feet and setback, but they would not
> overlook a shipping container.