Multi-vitamins

[gggg...@gmail.com]

Recommendations?

[gggg...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Recommendations?

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=qgnNW9ncEvas0PEPneSU4AM&q=multivitamin&oq=multivita&gs_l=img.1.0.0l10.253.1832..6689...0.0..0.272.983.7j1j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..35i39.W8_DZGQ9i_U

[John Weiss]

On 10/21/2018 14:33, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Recommendations?

Ask your doctor if you even need them.

[The Real Bev]

They always say that if you have a balanced diet you don't need them.
How many us eat properly? Costco's vitamins are cheap insurance.

--
Cheers, Bev
I am grateful that I am not as judgmental as all those
censorious, self-righteous people around me.

[The Real Bev]

On 10/21/2018 07:27 PM, John Weiss wrote:

Unless things have changed in the last couple of decades, doctors don't
know any more about nutrition than anybody else.

[Nosmo King]

gggg...@gmail.com wrote:

>Recommendations?

Most people don't need multi-vitamins. If you feel you have an inadequate diet
and are unwilling to change, buy the cheapest you can find. I used to take
BJ's, Puritan, or Costco (Kirkland).

[Michael Black]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, The Real Bev wrote:

> On 10/21/2018 07:27 PM, John Weiss wrote:
>> On 10/21/2018 14:33, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Recommendations?
>>
>> Ask your doctor if you even need them.
>
> They always say that if you have a balanced diet you don't need them. How
> many us eat properly? Costco's vitamins are cheap insurance.
>

When I stopped eating meat, in 1979, I started buyimh vitamins. It was
probably a good idea then, I was only 19. It does seem worth the price,
"just in case'. I've kept it up, but there have been times when I didn't
take them because I forget, and then when they run out, I don't rush out
to buy them immediately.

Most recently, I've bought a house brand from a Canadian drugstore chain
that clearly is the same as a well known brand. They sell bottles of 300,
and if you plan things right, you can buy when they are on sale, though
that doesn't seem to happen here as much as a few years ago. And I notice
the mix for "over 55" is down to 250 pills per large bottle, so I'm not
srue I"m going to the "senior" mix, though oddly a glance shows some
things in smaller amounts.

If we had better sales, I'd just jump between whatever I had and whatever
was on sale but that doesn't seem to happen much. I suspect in the right
places one could buy 365 pills in a bottle, take care of it once a eary.

Of course, you can spend a lot more. All those "natural" vitamins run up
the cost, but likely don't add anything of substance.

I do note that vitamnins and supplements in general have gone up in price
a the drugstore chains. I used to be able to get 120 500mg Vitamin C for
2.99 every few months, now the sales don't seem to happen, and the price
is up near ten dollars for the same amount.

But that's another route to go, figure out what you are lacking, or think
you lack, and just buy specific types.

I have seen a well known brand of vitamins at a dollar store here, I'm not
sure the price is really good, but probably no worse, the key being they
sell them in smaller bottles, so at least you don't have to shell out as
much at one time. The multivitamin was bottom end, so it covers the
basics but leaves out the esoteric stuff that fancier mixes might include,
but might not be so necessary. I guess the vitamin C was a good price,
though "chewable" when I'd prefer to just swallow.

Some supplements seem to help. If I get sick, I regert not buying garlic
pills when they were on sale, that seems to help the recovery. I guess
vitamin C helps too. But it's subjective.

But yes, I don't reallly see much difference between taking a multivitamin
and not taking it, but I probably eat healthier than when I was 19.

Michael

[John Weiss]

On 10/21/2018 20:12, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>> Ask your doctor if you even need them.
>
> Unless things have changed in the last couple of decades, doctors don't
> know any more about nutrition than anybody else.

Then things have changed. My doctors are able to give me very specific
recommendations on which vitamins I need to supplement.

[RJH]

On 22/10/2018 18:53, Michael Black wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> On 10/21/2018 07:27 PM, John Weiss wrote:
>>> On 10/21/2018 14:33, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Recommendations?
>>>
>>> Ask your doctor if you even need them.
>>
>> They always say that if you have a balanced diet you don't need them.
>> How many us eat properly?  Costco's vitamins are cheap insurance.
>>
> When I stopped eating meat, in 1979, I started buyimh vitamins.  It was
> probably a good idea then, I was only 19.  It does seem worth the price,
> "just in case'.  I've kept it up, but there have been times when I
> didn't take them because I forget, and then when they run out, I don't
> rush out to buy them immediately.
>
> Most recently, I've bought a house brand from a Canadian drugstore chain
> that clearly is the same as a well known brand.

Is there any regulation of internet drugs/supplements?

Here in the UK we're dissuaded on the basis that they could be any old
rat poison, and best buy through regulated outlets or via the doctor
(prescribed drugs are about $12US, or as much as you can eat for $110US
a year).

I've been buying Melatonin form the US for a while - never certain if
it's the real thing, though.

Vitamins and other food supplements are readily available most retail
outlets - and to my mind quite cheap (maybe $1/month)


--
Cheers, Rob

[RJH]

I seem to have persistent vitamin D and potassium 'borderline' readings.
Doctor suggests foods rich in those - but I'd rather know the cause.

--
Cheers, Rob

[Dee]

gggg...@gmail.com wrote in news:b5ab09c9-f9b4-4ebe-877d-c97f5101c189
@googlegroups.com:

> Recommendations?

A long time ago I took a Natrol multi, but now I take supplements
individually. A multi is not tailored to your individual needs, and
may have stuff in amounts that you don't want or need. However, it may
be better than nothing at all, and is cheap insurance.

Grocery-store vitamins tend to be in forms that are not absorbed or
utilized well by the body, while higher quality vitamins will be in
more absorbable and usable forms. And different forms can have
different therapeutic uses, as well.

I have taken supplements for over 25 years. I recommend buying only
established Health Food Store brands, such as Country Life, Solaray,
Natural Factors, Nature's Way, Natrol, Solgar, KAL, Twinlab, NOW, Life
Extension, Source Naturals, etc. I buy mostly online from iHerb.com
and Amazon, or from a local HFS or Vitamin Shoppe store.

Dee

[The Real Bev]

On 10/24/2018 03:33 AM, RJH wrote:
> On 22/10/2018 18:53, Michael Black wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/21/2018 07:27 PM, John Weiss wrote:
>>>> On 10/21/2018 14:33, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> Ask your doctor if you even need them.
>>>
>>> They always say that if you have a balanced diet you don't need them.
>>> How many us eat properly? Costco's vitamins are cheap insurance.
>>>
>> When I stopped eating meat, in 1979, I started buyimh vitamins. It was
>> probably a good idea then, I was only 19. It does seem worth the price,
>> "just in case'. I've kept it up, but there have been times when I
>> didn't take them because I forget, and then when they run out, I don't
>> rush out to buy them immediately.
>>
>> Most recently, I've bought a house brand from a Canadian drugstore chain
>> that clearly is the same as a well known brand.
>
> Is there any regulation of internet drugs/supplements?

No, not at all. I suspect that if somebody complains that something
poisoned them some government agency would do some sort of
investigation, but that's just a suspicion based on hope :-(

> Here in the UK we're dissuaded on the basis that they could be any old
> rat poison, and best buy through regulated outlets or via the doctor
> (prescribed drugs are about $12US, or as much as you can eat for $110US
> a year).
>
> I've been buying Melatonin form the US for a while - never certain if
> it's the real thing, though.
>
> Vitamins and other food supplements are readily available most retail
> outlets - and to my mind quite cheap (maybe $1/month)

I assume that Costco and Walmart do some sort of investigation of the
stuff that they put out under their own names.

--
Cheers, Bev
It's not the speed that kills, it's the stopping.

[Dennis]

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:53:55 -0400, Michael Black <mbl...@pubnix.net>
wrote:

>But yes, I don't reallly see much difference between taking a multivitamin
>and not taking it, but I probably eat healthier than when I was 19.

I don't notice any subjective difference when I take my prescribed
statin and when I don't. But my blood tests show a significant
difference in my cholesterol levels. (My doctor insists that the
difference is important to my long-term health, and since I'm paying
him for his advice, I tend to believe him.)

Dennis (evil)
--
My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin

[Dennis]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:30:35 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I assume that Costco and Walmart do some sort of investigation of the
>stuff that they put out under their own names.

Maybe. Costco was recently sued because their Kirkland fish oil
capsules were found to contain half of the Omega 3 advertised.

Dennis (evil)
--
I'm a hands-on, footloose, knee-jerk head case. -George Carlin

[ItsJoan NotJoann]

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 5:33:19 AM UTC-5, RJH wrote:
>
> Vitamins and other food supplements are readily available most retail
> outlets - and to my mind quite cheap (maybe $1/month)
>

> Cheers, Rob
>
Where are you buying vitamins for $1 per month????????????

But, unless you have a medical condition or are taking a medication that
depletes your body of certain vitamins and minerals no healthy adult
*needs* to take a daily vitamin.

[ItsJoan NotJoann]

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 8:53:17 AM UTC-5, Dee wrote:
>
> Grocery-store vitamins tend to be in forms that are not absorbed or
> utilized well by the body, while higher quality vitamins will be in
> more absorbable and usable forms. And different forms can have
> different therapeutic uses, as well.
>

Who told you that?

>
> I have taken supplements for over 25 years. I recommend buying only
> established Health Food Store brands, such as Country Life, Solaray,
> Natural Factors, Nature's Way, Natrol, Solgar, KAL, Twinlab, NOW, Life
> Extension, Source Naturals, etc. I buy mostly online from iHerb.com
> and Amazon, or from a local HFS or Vitamin Shoppe store.
>
> Dee
>

Oh please.

[The Real Bev]

On 10/24/2018 12:57 PM, Dennis wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:30:35 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I assume that Costco and Walmart do some sort of investigation of the
>>stuff that they put out under their own names.
>
> Maybe. Costco was recently sued because their Kirkland fish oil
> capsules were found to contain half of the Omega 3 advertised.

Shit. You can't trust anyone any more :-(


--
Cheers, Bev
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
is not thus handicapped."
-- Elbert Hubbard, American author

[The Real Bev]

And you always put the most expensive gas in your tank, right?

[ItsJoan NotJoann]

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 3:32:08 PM UTC-5, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> On 10/24/2018 06:53 AM, Dee wrote:
> >
> > A long time ago I took a Natrol multi, but now I take supplements
> > individually. A multi is not tailored to your individual needs, and
> > may have stuff in amounts that you don't want or need. However, it may
> > be better than nothing at all, and is cheap insurance.
> >
> > Grocery-store vitamins tend to be in forms that are not absorbed or
> > utilized well by the body, while higher quality vitamins will be in
> > more absorbable and usable forms. And different forms can have
> > different therapeutic uses, as well.
> >
> > I have taken supplements for over 25 years. I recommend buying only
> > established Health Food Store brands, such as Country Life, Solaray,
> > Natural Factors, Nature's Way, Natrol, Solgar, KAL, Twinlab, NOW, Life
> > Extension, Source Naturals, etc. I buy mostly online from iHerb.com
> > and Amazon, or from a local HFS or Vitamin Shoppe store.
>
> And you always put the most expensive gas in your tank, right?
>
>

*SNORT*

[RJH]

On 24/10/2018 21:20, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 5:33:19 AM UTC-5, RJH wrote:
>>
>> Vitamins and other food supplements are readily available most retail
>> outlets - and to my mind quite cheap (maybe $1/month)
>>
>> Cheers, Rob
>>
> Where are you buying vitamins for $1 per month????????????
>

Just about anywhere. I get them from a recent chain of discount stores
(Aldi and Lidl), but here's an example:

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/285513527

3 months for $4 - A Z Multivitamins + Minerals Food Supplement Specially
formulated to provide 24 essential nutrients with vitamins B1, B2 and B6
to help support energy levels

> But, unless you have a medical condition or are taking a medication that
> depletes your body of certain vitamins and minerals no healthy adult
> *needs* to take a daily vitamin.
>

Quite. Is why I'm annoyed that my doctor simply asks me to take
supplements rather than looking at the cause.


--
Cheers, Rob

[RJH]

:-)

--
Cheers, Rob

[ItsJoan NotJoann]

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 2:06:51 AM UTC-5, RJH wrote:
> On 24/10/2018 21:20, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
>
> > Where are you buying vitamins for $1 per month????????????
> >
>
> Just about anywhere. I get them from a recent chain of discount stores
> (Aldi and Lidl), but here's an example:
>
> https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/285513527
>

That is NOT $1 per month.

>
> 3 months for $4 - A Z Multivitamins + Minerals Food Supplement Specially
> formulated to provide 24 essential nutrients with vitamins B1, B2 and B6
> to help support energy levels
>
> > But, unless you have a medical condition or are taking a medication that
> > depletes your body of certain vitamins and minerals no healthy adult
> > *needs* to take a daily vitamin.
> >
>
> Quite. Is why I'm annoyed that my doctor simply asks me to take
> supplements rather than looking at the cause.
>
>

If you are taking other prescriptions it's quite possible one of those is
depleting your body of Vitamin D and potassium.

[RJH]

On 25/10/2018 19:26, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 2:06:51 AM UTC-5, RJH wrote:
>> On 24/10/2018 21:20, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
>>
>>> Where are you buying vitamins for $1 per month????????????
>>>
>>
>> Just about anywhere. I get them from a recent chain of discount stores
>> (Aldi and Lidl), but here's an example:
>>
>> https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/285513527
>>
> That is NOT $1 per month.
>>

Oops yes.

They are a lot cheaper in the Aldi/Lidl stores - can't remember exactly,
but the ones I bought recently are chewable cherry (for kids like me,
obviously) at <$2 for 30. I'm pretty sure the pill-form multivitamins
were about $1.

>> 3 months for $4 - A Z Multivitamins + Minerals Food Supplement Specially
>> formulated to provide 24 essential nutrients with vitamins B1, B2 and B6
>> to help support energy levels
>>
>>> But, unless you have a medical condition or are taking a medication that
>>> depletes your body of certain vitamins and minerals no healthy adult
>>> *needs* to take a daily vitamin.
>>>
>>
>> Quite. Is why I'm annoyed that my doctor simply asks me to take
>> supplements rather than looking at the cause.
>>
>>
> If you are taking other prescriptions it's quite possible one of those is
> depleting your body of Vitamin D and potassium.
>

Yes - amlodopine in my case. I suspect there could be a link, but the
doctor won't be drawn.

--
Cheers, Rob

[Bob F]

"Calcium channel blockers (such as verapamil ) -- These medications,
used to treat high blood pressure and heart conditions, may decrease the
production of vitamin D by the body. ... This is because vitamin D
improves absorption of calcium."

http://pennstatehershey.adam.com/content.aspx?productId=107&pid=33&gid=000995

[RJH]

Ah thanks! This will inform part of the conversation I next have with my
doctor (3 weeks to get an appointment which he asked for - and then by
phone only. Hmphhh)

--
Cheers, Rob

[ItsJoan NotJoann]

On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 2:06:23 AM UTC-5, RJH wrote:
>
> They are a lot cheaper in the Aldi/Lidl stores - can't remember exactly,
> but the ones I bought recently are chewable cherry (for kids like me,
> obviously) at <$2 for 30. I'm pretty sure the pill-form multivitamins
> were about $1.
>
>

I do take a 'senior' vitamin from Kroger, no iron, and it's 300 caplets for
about $10. I'll have to take a look at the price next week when I go grocery
shopping.

[gggg...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 12:34:49 AM UTC-10, RJH wrote:
> On 22/10/2018 22:10, John Weiss wrote:
> > On 10/21/2018 20:12, The Real Bev wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ask your doctor if you even need them.
> >>
> >> Unless things have changed in the last couple of decades, doctors don't
> >> know any more about nutrition than anybody else.
> >
> > Then things have changed. My doctors are able to give me very specific
> > recommendations on which vitamins I need to supplement.
> >
>

> I seem to have persistent vitamin D and potassium 'borderline' readings...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oxford-dictionaries-word-of-the-year-2018_us_5bed6d7ce4b0dbb7ea680bac

[gggg...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 2:33:13 PM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Recommendations?

https://www.quora.com/Should-I-take-a-multivitamin-regularly?ref=forbes&rel_pos=1

[gggg...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 2:33:13 PM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Recommendations?

Best multivitamin:

https://nymag.com/strategist/article/best-multivitamins.html

[gggg gggg]

On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 2:33:13 PM UTC-7,wrote:
> Recommendations?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/this-vitamin-could-be-pivotal-to-your-covid-recovery-new-research-says/ss-BB18kA3s?li=BBnb7Kz