Do you know what would happen if you gave a bunch of bananas to a bunch of monkeys?
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
looking at their closest cousins --us.
What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat more bananas --
the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
So, say we have 10 bananas for 10 monkeys. Someone will eat 4, another
2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
if they don't, they would be Republican.
---------------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Monkeys and humans are such funny animals"
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
support SOCIALISM...
I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
CAPITALISM.
The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
Edward Dolan
"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:806cc70f-f946-48cd...@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only subsists.
Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
stroke the economy.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:806cc70f-f946-48cd...@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> > support SOCIALISM...
>
> > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> > CAPITALISM.
>
> > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only subsists.
> Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
> stroke the economy.
>
Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
profitable enough.
Edward Dolan
"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
news:d3d77cd2-e03c-4340...@w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Capitalists don't give a damn what you or I do, either on or off a bicycle.
Try to get your head screwed on straight if that is possible.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d3d77cd2-e03c-4340...@w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 12:02 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana
> > Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:806cc70f-f946-48cd...@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I
> > > support SOCIALISM...
>
> > > I'm all against RATIONING A BANANA PER MONKEY, so we must live in
> > > abundance and freedom of choice, which is also denied by MONOPOLISTIC
> > > CAPITALISM.
>
> > > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> > The end result of socialism is that everyone becomes poor and only
> > subsists.
> > Better to have a few rich bastards around (capitalism) who know how to
> > stroke the economy.
>
> >>> Oh sure, and then you can't ride a fucking bike because it's not
>
> profitable enough.
>
> Capitalists don't give a damn what you or I do, either on or off a bicycle.
> Try to get your head screwed on straight if that is possible.
They do give a damn. That's a law of capitalism...
"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'
***
But pick on me. I already said I don't like SOCIALISM. And I know you
like to throw shit too! ;)
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> On Apr 15, 1:35 am, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > No, I don't know either, but we can make some educated guesses by
> > looking at their closest cousins --us.
>
> > What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat more bananas --
> > the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
> > nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
>
> > So, say we have 10 bananas for 10 monkeys. Someone will eat 4, another
> > 2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
> > if they don't, they would be Republican.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> monkey that planted, nourished, and harvested the bananas not be given
> a bigger share? How about the 6 worker monkeys? Should the monkeys
> that did nothing to earn the bananas be given an equal share? What
> about the 1 monkey that openly scoffed at the bananas until it came
> time to eat them, should he be given an equal share of the bananas?
>
> Who defines "fair"?
No SOCIALISM here. No sweat, no banana! ;)
The trick is that the alpha monkeys shouldn't have access to unlimited
bananas in order to control the mundane monkeys.
Edward Dolan
"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionn...@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:7f6f938a-e1c1-4132...@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> like to throw shit too! ;)
You previously wrote:
>> I want to clarify something so there's no misunderstanding that I support
>> SOCIALISM...
Socialism ends up in National Socialism (Hitler), Communism (Stalin) or the
Chinese variety (Maoism). These are your friends, not mine.
Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a damn
about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a million
times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
concerned with power and control over people.
Edward Dolan
Agreed!
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:35:33 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey,
>
> the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >No, I don't know either, but we can make some educated guesses by
> >looking at their closest cousins --us.
>
> >What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat more bananas --
> >the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
> >nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
>
> >So, say we have 10 bananas for 10 monkeys. Someone will eat 4, another
> >2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
> >if they don't, they would be Republican.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ""All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian,
> or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to
> terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
> -- Thomas Paine
All the lessons to be learned from this experiment may be interpreted
by those who sponsor the study. ;)
A monkey can eat 4 bananas, get 5 monkeys to eat the scraps and still
leave 4 monkeys hungry in the name of "democracy."
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:7f6f938a-e1c1-4132...@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
Canada?
I think you are as clueless as a monkey.
Edward Dolan
> They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
I think you are as clueless as a monkey.
> But not as clueless as you.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a
> > damn
> > about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a
> > million
> > times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> > concerned with power and control over people.
>
> Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
> Canada?
>
> > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> I think you are as clueless as a monkey.
You still haven't answered my question, big monkey.
Is Canada Stalinist, Maoist or what?
Edward Dolan
>>> Do you not understand plain English? I have told you that they are all
>>> welfare states, NOT socialism.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> On Apr 15, 6:04 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote in
> > messagenews:f88274da-a513-49f2...@q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 15, 3:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > > Capitalists are abstract thinkers. Trust me on this, they do not give a
> > > damn
> > > about you and me. Yes, they are concerned with profit, but that is a
> > > million
> > > times better than those god damn fucking socialist bastards who are only
> > > concerned with power and control over people.
>
> > Where do Holland or Denmark fall in those categories? How about
> > Canada?
>
> > > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> > I think you are as clueless as a monkey.
So tell me, what is better the WELFARE STATE OR THE WARFARE STATE?
Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
Edward Dolan
> > > They are social welfare states which fall far short of socialism. They
> > > depend on capitalists to lay the golden eggs.
>
> > I think you are as clueless as a monkey.
So tell me, what is better the WELFARE STATE OR THE WARFARE STATE?
Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
>>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our dumb
>>>> ass.
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
>
> >>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our dumb
> >>>> ass.
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
(why those funny markings instead of single one)
I thought Capitalism would become more humane after the fall of
communism, but it only became hungrier.
Edward Dolan
"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
news:943b1b12-edb4-4402...@8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 7:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> Not that I advocate the welfare state. ;)
>
> >>>> We need to kick Muslim ass. If not, they will soon be kicking our
> >>>> dumb
> >>>> ass.
>
(why those funny markings instead of single one)
>> I need to differentiate who is saying what. You are posting from Google
>> Groups which has always been a fouled up web site to post from. I am
>> posting from my Windows Mail via News.Knowolgy.Net. You should get a
>> proper newsreader.
I thought Capitalism would become more humane after the fall of
communism, but it only became hungrier.
>> TibetanMonkey, capitalism is not perfect, but it is better than all those
>> other systems out there.
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Will it be the last one before we finally "succeed" in depleting all
the resources and species of the planet?
I hope something else is coming soon. Something like Holland or
perhaps better, where YOU HAVE CHOICES like public transportation,
bikes or cars.
Edward Dolan
"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
news:fb917294-9480-4375...@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...[...]
> >> TibetanMonkey, capitalism is not perfect, but it is better than all
> >> those
> >> other systems out there.
Will it be the last one before we finally "succeed" in depleting all
the resources and species of the planet?
I hope something else is coming soon. Something like Holland or
perhaps better, where YOU HAVE CHOICES like public transportation,
bikes or cars.
> Yes, naked capitalism does not work any better than naked socialism. We
> have to get the mix right.
Don Klipstein
Dear Ed the Great,
It appears to me that you are adding quotation symbols (multiply
in one case appearing above) to lines of text that are of your doing, as
opposed to lines of text that you are quoting back in the process of
responding to them (where adding a quotation symbol per line belongs).
That could cause some confusion.
<SNIP signature>
-
-
- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fb917294-9480-4375...@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 8:01 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > >> TibetanMonkey, capitalism is not perfect, but it is better than all
> > >> those
> > >> other systems out there.
>
> Will it be the last one before we finally "succeed" in depleting all
> the resources and species of the planet?
>
> I hope something else is coming soon. Something like Holland or
> perhaps better, where YOU HAVE CHOICES like public transportation,
> bikes or cars.
>
> > Yes, naked capitalism does not work any better than naked socialism. We
> > have to get the mix right.
> > Regards,
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
We can get that recipe anywhere in Europe: BETTER ROAD MANNERS, MORE
PREVENTION, TOTAL PROTECTION FOR CYCLISTS.
I think people is tired of BS, don't you think?
Tom Sherman °_°
messes up some replies. However, Mr. Ed Dolan refuses to fix the problem.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
“ever get suspicious about chain saw oil attracting wood dust? generally
mucking
up after two cuts? try dumping hot oil into a container just right sized for
inserting the running blade on the job. rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..... plus
750 rpm!"
- gene daniels
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> > The Banana Revolution is all about FREEDOM!
>
> Well then you had better dump socialism.
I wished I could like the law of the jungle (aka capitalism), but I'm
too frugal and smart for that. I also don't believe in bureaucratic
solutions, so that makes me a bad socialist.
In other words, I'm all for having choices except letting the worst
aspects of capitalism run its course: HOMELESSNESS, SUV'S, LACK OF
ROOM FOR ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES (bicycles & EVs), WAR, GATED
COMMUNITIES, WHOLE MANIPULATION BY POLITICIANS AND RELIGIOUS LIARS,
etc.
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> On 15 Apr, 06:35, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > No, I don't know either, but we can make some educated guesses by
> > looking at their closest cousins --us.
>
> > What will happen is that some monkeys will try to eat morebananas--
> > the lion's share-- while others go hungry. Some call it "human
> > nature," but I bet monkeys act like that too.
>
> > 2, and so on. If they eat 1 banana each, they would be socialist. But
> > if they don't, they would be Republican.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Monkeys and humans are such funny animals"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> join your revolution.
>
> The only good revolution was the industrial revolution.
>
> DanP
Besides a steady supply of bananas, I can promise to liberate you from
the cage (vehicle, home, gated community) and give you room for your
bikes and alternative vehicles.
I don't think there's a need to get all defensive about it when we can
set up something like... Key West. Have you been there?
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> Not quite what will happen, First they will destroy most of them while
> they are fighting. Maybe one monkey would get a banana and then he
> will have to guard the squish mess left on the ground. Also not unlike
> us.
>
> Jimmie
Maybe we are introducing the problem by giving them all the bananas at
once, and let them to figure it out.
It's like when you give a loan to an African country and some monkey
in government keeps the dough.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
One of the great proposals of the revolution (the Banana Revolution)
is to allow people to ride bike with flip flops (Key West style if you
will) peacefully taking the lane, and having the cars pass on the
other lanes, so the blissful state of mind of the rider is not
disturbed. Yes, you may take some drink in the bottle cage, and it's
not DUI.
That's what I call freedom.
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> On 2010-04-16, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 16, 6:57 am, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
> ><comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Uh, actually, if u are referring to great apes, they would start
> >> > trading bananas for sex.
>
> >> That's true. Actually all those displays of power among us (SUVs,
> >> motorboats, money to burn) are also used to mate with the most
> >> desirable females around.
>
> > And the problem with that would be..?
>
> Nothing if the desire of the human race is to be a bunch of (savage)
> tool using apes.
We have come a long way, from tools to survive to tools to control and
destroy.
From this...
To this...
http://www.marketingshift.com/images/internationalSUV-7300cxt.gif
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
further tease the monkeys into conflict.
Now some monkeys get bananas and some peanuts. A clear caste emerges
in which the privileged monkeys get bananas and other exquisite
fruits, protecting them from the worse of the jungle, while the ones
getting the peanuts must compete with each other for peanuts and other
symbols of status created by the better monkeys.
That would be quite a mind tease, wouldn't it?
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
> On 16 Apr, 15:04, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>
> DanP
I say OPTIONS is the way to go forward: bicycles, scooters, EVs
(little ones aka golf carts) for local use, then public
transportation, including fast trains, and finally cars.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
On Apr 16, 4:42 pm, "Frank Berger" <frank.d.ber...@dal.frb.org> wrote:
> > Horse manure was a problem before the invention of the automobile.
>
> Still is.
I would expect the roads to have been more peaceful when everybody
rode a horse. Even the bike had little to fear other than slipping on
manure.
Nowadays, an SUV simply crushes you.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> I'll give you that. SUV's suck. Show me a soccer mom who has to tail
> gate and intimidate in one of these and I'll show you a female with a
> broken vibrator.
A soccer mom with a broken vibrator and an SUV is a dangerous
combination.
I think they get testosterone rushes from driving such vehicles and
want to bite.
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
wrote:
> On 4/16/2010 1:06 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
> > Socialism operates through force. Any such societal model will
> > inevitably fail. You list some examples, there are others, and there
> > will be more.
>
> I may be mistaken, but I get the distinct impression you're trying to
> portray "socialism" - kind of a catch-all - as being worse than other
> forms of societal organization that have broadly based use of or threat
> of force as a defining element. Such a position - which, as I have
> indicated, I may be incorrect in imputing to you - is a false belief.
> "Socialism" is *not* "worse" than fascism, tribalism, theocracy, or any
> other system that subjugates the individual in the name of some
> supposedly greater collective interest. In fact, it doesn't matter in
> the least what the rationale is: equality of distribution of goods and
> services, national glory, religious devotion, or whatever. If you don't
> believe in collective interests, then the use of force to compel
> behavior toward some supposedly greater good (greater than the interests
> of the individual) is wrong, no matter what the supposed greater good is.
>
> If you're constantly harping about "socialism" while disregarding the
> *equally* wrong use of force in pursuit of other collective goals, then
> your criticism starts to seem partisan and hypocritical. I'm suggesting
> we need to see some opposition to the use of or threat of force to
> coerce behavior in pursuit of collective interests generally, not merely
> when the supposed collective interest is equality of economic distribution.
Even a group of wolves practice some sort of welfare or socialism
within the pack, but they hate it when the word comes from the sheep.
The monkey though believes in COOPERATION.
Edward Dolan
"TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
news:5ee86f36-52de-44bf...@j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...[...]
> > Yes, naked capitalism does not work any better than naked socialism. We
> > have to get the mix right.
We can get that recipe anywhere in Europe: BETTER ROAD MANNERS, MORE
PREVENTION, TOTAL PROTECTION FOR CYCLISTS.
>>> Europe does not have the mix any better than we do. Only the mythical
>>> kingdom of Shangri-La has got it right.
I think people is [are] tired of BS, don't you think?
>>> People always and forever are fouling things up. It is our nature to do
>>> so.
>>> Regards,
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
chapter. Now we give the best fruits to some, and the peanuts to the
rest, BUT we give them sticks...
Imagine, CIVIL WAR among the monkeys!
But it could be anything other than sticks. We can give some much
heavier vehicles while others get bicycles. Imagine what confusion,
how much aggression!
Oh c'mon guys, all this is common sense. ALL THIS CONFLICT WE GO
THROUGH IS PRODUCT OF THE WRONG EXPERIMENTS.
Can we "free the monkey within," appealing to the tamed side of it?
Tom Sherman °_°
>
> People always and forever are fouling things up. It is our nature to do
> so.
>
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> On Apr 27, 1:54 pm, Conscience <nobama@g v.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2010-04-27 13:34:28 -0700, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers"
> > <threeb...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> > > Increasing the tax on gas would save thousands of lives a year as
> > > people drove slower to get better mileage. We saw that in 2008.
>
> > Oh, yeah. Brilliant idea.
>
> > How 'bout those food prices, huh?
>
> Funny too how the food prices didn't drop after gas dropped from $4/
> gallon...
I only wished meat and junk food was pricey enough to reduce its
consumption. But all we got to do is TAX JUNK FOOD/MEAT and subsidize
the good stuff.
Jobst Brandt
>>>> Increasing the tax on gas would save thousands of lives a year as
>>>> people drove slower to get better mileage. We saw that in 2008.
>>> Oh, yeah. Brilliant idea.
>>> How 'bout those food prices, huh?
>> Funny too how the food prices didn't drop after gas dropped from
>> $4/ gallon...
> I only wished meat and junk food was pricey enough to reduce its
> consumption. But all we got to do is TAX JUNK FOOD/MEAT and
> subsidize the good stuff.
Cigarettes have risen enormously in price in the last ten years and
the same folks still burn them at a great rate. When people have an
addiction, their fervor seems to rise with price of their habit. I
have little hope for the proposal.
Jobst Brandt
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
Still smokers are fewer than in other countries where cigarettes are
cheaper.
It made me quit 13 years ago.