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scout...@webtv.net

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May 23, 2002, 4:44:42 AM5/23/02
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I saw a home improvement show where they wallpapered the doors. Looked
easy enough and is cheaper than other methods. I'm going to try it
myself. Just make sure the wallpaper is scrubbable vinyl.

Chloe

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> I saw a home improvement show where they wallpapered the doors. Looked
> easy enough and is cheaper than other methods. I'm going to try it
> myself. Just make sure the wallpaper is scrubbable vinyl.

DH and I put wallpaper on the aging, unattractive bathroom cabinetry in our
other house. As I recall it had been painted and we just sanded it to scuff
up the surface first. We even covered the fronts of the drawers. It stayed
intact for 20 years until we replaced the whole cabinet.


Tracey

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"Pat Meadows" <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in message
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Contact paper works well for this. One apartment we lived in had orange
formica counters and cabinets, which the previous tenanat had put contact
paper over. It was a huge improvement.

nyt...@webtv.net

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May 22, 2002, 7:51:55 AM5/22/02
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The wife wants to change the kitchen to give it a bit more color. (too
much white)
I'd like to get some ideas about covering?
or using something other than a wood finish to change the look of the
cupboard doors. Got any unusual and frugal ideas?

J.P.

su-t...@webtv.net

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May 22, 2002, 8:40:15 AM5/22/02
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cabinet doors are a safety hazard.

i met one very nice lady, who has severe brain damage now, from hitting
her head on a cabinet door, when she was straightening up.

it might be safer to use curtains on cabinets, instead of doors.

you might want to put a barrier, along the front edge of the shelves, so
that things dont fall off.

& you might want to be sure to arrange things on the shelves, so that
they dont fall over or fall out.

-------------

in college, a professor came to class one day, with some visible/bad
injuries, & he seemed to be in considerable pain/discomfort.

he told us a long story, about his being in a bar-room brawl, about how
he had won the fight, & about how badly injured the other guy was.

then he told us the truth.

he had run into the cabinet door in his kitchen.

once he gave some of us a ride somewhere, but when we tried to exit the
vehicle, we couldnt, ... & he laughed & laughed, as we sat there baffled
& a bit scared.

it turned out, that he had an odd door-locking system, that only he
could control.

he was an electrical engineer.

a very strange guy.


susan, su_texas my opinions

Kmquinn2000

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May 23, 2002, 3:59:21 PM5/23/02
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This looks amazing... and is worth every penny. I wish I had a way to show you
a picture.

you will need half molding, your choice of paint(s) and wall paper... it’s
not just any wallpaper.. its the kind you put on the ceiling to make it look
like a painted tin ceiling and adhesive to apply the wall paper. It’s made
to paint over and is embossed.

Prepare the surface to so that it will accept the adhesive/wallpaper. (I used
steel wool.)
Cut the paper in squares /rectangles to conform to the design that you have
chosen.
Center the rectangles on the cupboard door, frame out with the molding (you may
need a miter box to get good corners) and paint everything the same color. It
looks liked carved wood that has been painted.

Good luck,
~Kat

suzn

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May 23, 2002, 7:36:16 PM5/23/02
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<nyt...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Try changing the cabinet knobs and/or trimming out the doors with some
decorative wood trim.


sam

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May 23, 2002, 11:01:12 PM5/23/02
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>he was an electrical engineer.
>a very strange guy.

Is it me, or are there a lot of nut cases in Texas?

suzn

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"sam" <cas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is it me, or are there a lot of nut cases in Texas?

Probably no more than in any other state.....


catlady

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May 24, 2002, 6:57:19 AM5/24/02
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"Pat Meadows" <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in message

> On Thu, 23 May 2002 19:27:30 GMT, "Tracey"
> <redhe...@prodigy.com> wrote:

> >Contact paper works well for this. One apartment we lived in had orange
> >formica counters and cabinets, which the previous tenanat had put contact
> >paper over. It was a huge improvement.

> It's hard to find contact paper nowadays, and it's even
> harder to find nice patterns. Anyway, that's been my
> experience.

I've been putting contact paper on my cabinets for a long time. I change
every couple of years (I think I've done it about four times, now) when I
get bored. Never had any trouble finding patterns I liked. It helps that
my cabinet surfaces are completely flat and without handles of any kind; the
paper adheres easily.


artstudio

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May 24, 2002, 10:02:27 AM5/24/02
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Paint botanicals on the doors:

Find botanical prints either on the internet or from books. Print or
photocopy them. Put carbon paper on the cabinet, put the botanical
photocopy on top, and trace the lines. Then use thinned acrylic paints to
add soft transparent colour, or full strength if you want a brighter
effect. This is quite easy, since the lines and shading are already
provided by the tracing you just made, you just need to colour in like
using a child's colouring book. Use the original print as a colour guide.

Select a theme, a different flower for each cabinet door, or a different
herb, or different fruits and/or vegetables.

Dennis

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May 24, 2002, 11:13:01 AM5/24/02
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But Texas is a very big state.

Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

newsgroupie

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May 24, 2002, 4:15:32 PM5/24/02
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su-t...@webtv.net wrote in message news:<12535-3C...@storefull-2214.public.lawson.webtv.net>...

> cabinet doors are a safety hazard.
>
> i met one very nice lady, who has severe brain damage now, from hitting
> her head on a cabinet door, when she was straightening up.
<snip>

My neighbors brothers nephew was impaled with a webtv keyboard.
He was running to another room with the keyboard in order to view
some porn on his moms big screen tv and fell. The corner of the
keyboard lodged into his rectum and entered his body all the way
up to the letter "h". Had it went as far as the "delete" key, it may
have very well killed him. It did however cure him from using webtv to
surf for porn. YMMV.

Sharx.

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May 24, 2002, 5:08:07 PM5/24/02
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"newsgroupie" <newsg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Good post. Great humour. Reminds me of that ditz who sued McDonalds over
the coffee supposedly being too hot. It was probably the hottest her thighs
have ever been!!!

Dave B.

Gini

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May 24, 2002, 5:47:34 PM5/24/02
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"suzn" <suzn...@home.com> wrote in message
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=====================================
Definately not more than Florida.
=====================================
>
>

Gini

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"Pat Meadows" <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 May 2002 06:57:19 -0400, "catlady"
> <lovemycats*meowmeow*@postmark.net> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >I've been putting contact paper on my cabinets for a long time. I change
> >every couple of years (I think I've done it about four times, now) when I
> >get bored. Never had any trouble finding patterns I liked. It helps
that
> >my cabinet surfaces are completely flat and without handles of any kind;
the
> >paper adheres easily.
> >
>
> Mine are completely flat too - they do have handles, but I
> can unscrew the handles and then put them back - so that
> would work out well.
>
> Pat
======================================
There are some fantastic vintage and retro kitchen wallpapers on eBay all
the time. 40s florals, fruits, etc. I don't know why they could not be used
for cupboards as well.
======================================

Rita

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May 24, 2002, 6:19:40 PM5/24/02
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On Fri, 24 May 2002 17:50:31 -0400, "Gini" <gi...@losch.net> wrote:

>
>"Pat Meadows" <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in message
>news:hdcseu0cj9jpfub6a...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 24 May 2002 06:57:19 -0400, "catlady"
>> <lovemycats*meowmeow*@postmark.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >I've been putting contact paper on my cabinets for a long time. I change
>> >every couple of years (I think I've done it about four times, now) when I
>> >get bored. Never had any trouble finding patterns I liked. It helps
>that
>> >my cabinet surfaces are completely flat and without handles of any kind;
>the
>> >paper adheres easily.
>> >
>>
>> Mine are completely flat too - they do have handles, but I
>> can unscrew the handles and then put them back - so that
>> would work out well.
>>

I hate my kitchen cabinet doors and they are not flat, they have
a recessed area. I live in an rented apartment and do not want
to spend a lot replacing them. They are coated with some kind
of plastic over the wood and this has worn off in places. I don't
know if they could be successfully painted, and if so, with what?
My son-in-law is an excellent painter and if the results looked
good and held up the landlord would not go into a tizzy I am
sure:)

Any ideas?

Joann M. Hnat

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May 25, 2002, 12:26:33 AM5/25/02
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Pat Meadows wrote:

Re: the woman who sued MacDonald's because the coffee was too hot ...

> Funny you should mention that. This has been discussed over
> on rec.food.cooking today. The way you describe it is
> something of an urban legend, it wasn't actually like that
> at all.


Thanks for posting this. My brother, who is a lawyer, as I am, mentioned
at the time that he had read the transcript of the trial, and it was
nothing like what the media was reporting. Especially interesting to
read that their coffee was kept 40 degrees hotter than competing
restaurants' coffee, in spite of hundreds of complaints prior to this
lawsuit.

Plus, the woman's injuries were much more serious than I realized.

.. Joann

Sharx.

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May 25, 2002, 12:46:11 AM5/25/02
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"Joann M. Hnat" <j...@shore.net> wrote in message
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Yeah, right, according to HER medical experts, no doubt. The FACT is,
regardless of how much hotter their coffee MIGHT have been, and THAT is open
to dispute, why the HELL did she hold it where she did? Frankly, I am
sometimes guilty of eating while driving but, having the gall, to blame
OTHERS for my clumsiness or lack of judgment?? Seems to be the way things
are nowadays.... always blaming SOMEONE else for ones OWN stupidity.
Darwin's Law, whatever.

Dave B. ( She gets NO sympathy from me, whatsover. Perhaps she can use
some of the money to get a brain transplant).


>
> .. Joann


Anthony Matonak

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May 25, 2002, 2:39:32 AM5/25/02
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Pat Meadows wrote:
...
> They kept their coffee about 40 degrees hotter than
> comparable fast-food restaurants (I don't know why they did
> this).
...

It's a cost saving measure. By using water at a higher temperature
they can get more 'coffee' out of any particular measure of beans.

Anthony

Bonita Kale

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May 25, 2002, 8:09:41 AM5/25/02
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"Sharx." <sha...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
( She gets NO sympathy from me, whatsover. Perhaps she can use
> some of the money to get a brain transplant).

McFacts abut the McDonalds Coffee Lawsuit

Everyone knows what you're talking about when you mention "the
McDonald's lawsuit." Even though this case was decided in
August of 1994, for many Americans it continues to represent the
"problem" with our civil justice system.

The business community and insurance industry have done much to
perpetuate this case. They don't want us to forget it. They
know it helps them convince politicians that "tort reform" and other
restrictions on juries is needed. And worse, they know it
poisons the minds of citizens who sit on juries.

Unfortunately, not all the facts have been communicated - facts that
put the case and the monetary award to the 81-year old
plaintiff in a significantly different light.

According to the Wall Street journal, McDonald's callousness was the
issue and even jurors who thought the case was just a
tempest in a coffee pot were overwhelmed by the evidence against the
Corporation.

The facts of the case, which caused a jury of six men and six women to
find McDonald's coffee was unreasonably dangerous
and had caused enough human misery and suffering that no one should be
made to suffer exposure to such excessively hot
coffee again, will shock and amaze you:

McFact No. 1: For years, McDonald's had known they had a problem
with the way they make their coffee -
that their coffee was served much hotter (at least 20 degrees
more so) than at other restaurants.

McFact No. 2: McDonald's knew its coffee sometimes caused
serious injuries - more than 700 incidents of
scalding coffee burns in the past decade have been settled by the
Corporation - and yet they never so much as
consulted a burn expert regarding the issue.

McFact No. 3: The woman involved in this infamous case suffered
very serious injuries - third degree burns
on her groin, thighs and buttocks that required skin grafts and a
seven-day hospital stay.

McFact No. 4: The woman, an 81-year old former department store
clerk who had never before filed suit
against anyone, said she wouldn't have brought the lawsuit
against McDonald's had the Corporation not dismissed
her request for compensation for medical bills.

McFact No. 5: A McDonald's quality assurance manager testified
in the case that the Corporation was aware
of the risk of serving dangerously hot coffee and had no plans to
either turn down the heat or to post warning
about the possibility of severe burns, even though most customers
wouldn't think it was possible.

McFact No. 6: After careful deliberation, the jury found
McDonald's was liable because the facts were
overwhelmingly against the company. When it came to the punitive
damages, the jury found that McDonald's had
engaged in willful, reckless, malicious, or wanton conduct, and
rendered a punitive damage award of 2.7 million
dollars. (The equivalent of just two days of coffee sales,
McDonalds Corporation generates revenues in excess of
1.3 million dollars daily from the sale of its coffee, selling 1
billion cups each year.)

McFact No. 7: On appeal, a judge lowered the award to $480,000,
a fact not widely publicized in the media.

McFact No. 8: A report in Liability Week, September 29, 1997,
indicated that Kathleen Gilliam, 73,
suffered first degree burns when a cup of coffee spilled onto her
lap. Reports also indicate that McDonald's
consistently keeps its coffee at 185 degrees, still approximately
20 degrees hotter than at other restaurants. Third
degree burns occur at this temperature in just two to seven
seconds, requiring skin grafting, debridement and
whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and
result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and
disability to the victims for many months, and in some cases,
years.

The most important message this case has for you, the consumer, is to
be aware of the potential danger posed by your early
morning pick-me-up. Take extra care to make sure children do not come
into contact with scalding liquid, and always look to
the facts before rendering your decision about any publicized case.

Courtesy of Legal News and Views, Ohio Academy of Trial Lawyers

Annette M. Stroud

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May 25, 2002, 11:06:41 AM5/25/02
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In article <ebtueu8ige47277j2...@4ax.com>,
krh <ken970...@eudora.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 May 2002 04:26:33 GMT, "Joann M. Hnat" <j...@shore.net>
>wrote:
>Now that's interesting. Since the news didn't report the facts, Was
>culpability shifted primarily to the company because people insisted
>on drinking their coffee while the vehicle was moving? Did customers
>they try to balance the coffee between their legs while driving?

You f'ing can't read, can you?

Maybe you should sue your first grade teacher.

The victim was not driving and was not in a moving car at the time of the
accident.

Annette

MJ

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May 25, 2002, 2:16:46 PM5/25/02
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Excellent rebuttals.

MJ

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May 25, 2002, 2:25:47 PM5/25/02
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"Annette M. Stroud" wrote:

> You f'ing can't read, can you?
>
> Maybe you should sue your first grade teacher.
>
> The victim was not driving and was not in a moving car at the time of the
> accident.
>
> Annette

I guess I missed something. Was it she or a McDonalds employee that spilled
that coffee over her lap?

Reminds me of an instruction booklet I once got for a stop clock (timer). It
was 14 pages long. It was primarily how not to operate the unit. Let's see -
on / off. Hmm, I wonder if it will work in a tub of water?

Along that line, I actually saw a disclaimer on a new piece of machinery
(essentially a 2x2x2ft metal box to melt adhesive) that stated it should not
be used as a ladder - do not climb on the equipment. Hmm - I wonder if I can
stick my hand into the 350F adhesive?

suzn

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May 25, 2002, 3:37:18 PM5/25/02
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"Pat Meadows" <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in message
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>
> I've occasionally been 'guilty' of buying food in a drive-in
> fast food place, driving over to park under the trees and
> eating it in the car. I see lots of other people do this
> too.

I do this a lot if I am out alone.....I dont want to sit inside all
alone...plus its much quieter in the car.....:)


B

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May 25, 2002, 4:26:35 PM5/25/02
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suzn <suzn...@home.com> wrote

>
> I do this a lot if I am out alone.....I dont want to sit inside all
> alone...plus its much quieter in the car.....:)

But do you take a scalding hot liquid and place it between your legs?! LOL
doubtful. Heck, it doesn't matter if she was sitting in the grass in a picnic
area, who the heck takes a scalding liquid in a collapsible styrofoam cup and
puts it between their legs?!

Buttons, who wonders how many coffee drinkers complain about the coffee not
being hot enough at fast food places (it does happen).


suzn

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May 25, 2002, 6:21:27 PM5/25/02
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"B" <but...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> But do you take a scalding hot liquid and place it between your legs?! LOL
> doubtful. Heck, it doesn't matter if she was sitting in the grass in a
picnic
> area, who the heck takes a scalding liquid in a collapsible styrofoam cup
and
> puts it between their legs?!

Hehe... No....common sense tells me, hey that might be a bit warm if you
were to spill it.....:)
Now I did put a cup of coke in my lap once and ended up with wet
pants......was cold too....but I dont think it was cold enough to harm
me....:)

> Buttons, who wonders how many coffee drinkers complain about the coffee
not
> being hot enough at fast food places (it does happen).

Seldom do I get coffee at a fast food place coz it normally tastes like
crap....


suzn

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"krh" <ken970...@eudora.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'll bet you don't cradle the hot coffee cup between you legs. I'll
> bet you'll set the cup in the cup holder before moving. And, on that
> possibility the vehicle wasn't moving in the debated case, I'll bet
> you won't wrestle to remove the tope while the hot coffee cup is
> cradled between your legs. Finally, I'll bet both of you have a lot
> more common sense that the lady being debated. I felt sorry for her
> injuries, but I was compelled to condemned her for her carelessness.

I just place any cup whether hot or cold in the cup holder in the center
console of my car even before I start to drive....
Just goes to show you can be rewarded for your carelessness and/or
stupidity...people sue for any reason these days and sadly most of them
win...


Sharx.

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"Pat Meadows" <p...@meadows.pair.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 25 May 2002 04:46:11 GMT, "Sharx."
> <sha...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Yeah, right, according to HER medical experts, no doubt. The FACT is,
> >regardless of how much hotter their coffee MIGHT have been, and THAT is
open
> >to dispute, why the HELL did she hold it where she did? Frankly, I am
> >sometimes guilty of eating while driving but, having the gall, to blame
> >OTHERS for my clumsiness or lack of judgment?? Seems to be the way things
> >are nowadays.... always blaming SOMEONE else for ones OWN stupidity.
> >Darwin's Law, whatever.
>
> I guess you didn't read my post, or disbelieved it. She
> wasn't driving. The car wasn't moving, it was stationary.

>
> I've occasionally been 'guilty' of buying food in a drive-in
> fast food place, driving over to park under the trees and
> eating it in the car. I see lots of other people do this
> too. I wouldn't consider it anything unusual or showing
> particularly poor judgement. Indeed, the fast food
> restaurants provide parking places for people to do exactly
> this.
>
> When *I* go to a place - say a restaurant - and they do
> something unusually hazardous that other restaurants do NOT
> do, I would expect to be warned about it. I would certainly
> expect to be warned if they had had previously had over 700
> cases of injury from this hazardous and unusual practice.
>
> The fact that McDonald's (a) persisted in serving coffee
> that was about 40 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than other fast
> food places (b) knew this, and knew it was hazardous, and
> (c) didn't warn their customers is probably the reason why
> her suit succeeded. That and the fact that they refused her
> initial modest request to pay her medical costs...
>
> Now: you can have the last word, I've said all I want to on
> this topic. :) I've no more time for it.
>
> People always believe whatever they want to believe anyway.
>
> Pat

Humbug. If she had tried suing me, believe it, she would REALLY regret it.

Sharx.

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"Annette M. Stroud" <ast...@nyx10.nyx.net> wrote in message
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Yeah, right. Whatever. And you believe in the tooth fairy, right?


Sharx.

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"Bonita Kale" <bonit...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Good for them. Who wants luke warm coffee?


>
> McFact No. 2: McDonald's knew its coffee sometimes caused
> serious injuries - more than 700 incidents of
> scalding coffee burns in the past decade have been settled by the
> Corporation - and yet they never so much as
> consulted a burn expert regarding the issue.

And, on a percentage basis, this would be .00000000000000000000000000000001
per cent of customers?

>
> McFact No. 3: The woman involved in this infamous case suffered
> very serious injuries - third degree burns
> on her groin, thighs and buttocks that required skin grafts and a
> seven-day hospital stay.

Her clumsiness. Her problem.


>
> McFact No. 4: The woman, an 81-year old former department store
> clerk who had never before filed suit
> against anyone, said she wouldn't have brought the lawsuit
> against McDonald's had the Corporation not dismissed
> her request for compensation for medical bills.

So what? Irrevelant.

>
> McFact No. 5: A McDonald's quality assurance manager testified
> in the case that the Corporation was aware
> of the risk of serving dangerously hot coffee and had no plans to
> either turn down the heat or to post warning
> about the possibility of severe burns, even though most customers
> wouldn't think it was possible.

Irrevelant.


>
> McFact No. 6: After careful deliberation, the jury found
> McDonald's was liable because the facts were
> overwhelmingly against the company. When it came to the punitive
> damages, the jury found that McDonald's had
> engaged in willful, reckless, malicious, or wanton conduct, and
> rendered a punitive damage award of 2.7 million
> dollars. (The equivalent of just two days of coffee sales,
> McDonalds Corporation generates revenues in excess of
> 1.3 million dollars daily from the sale of its coffee, selling 1
> billion cups each year.)

Irrevelant.


>
> McFact No. 7: On appeal, a judge lowered the award to $480,000,
> a fact not widely publicized in the media.

McDonalds should have sued HER for launching a frivolous, vexatious suit.


>
> McFact No. 8: A report in Liability Week, September 29, 1997,
> indicated that Kathleen Gilliam, 73,
> suffered first degree burns when a cup of coffee spilled onto her
> lap. Reports also indicate that McDonald's
> consistently keeps its coffee at 185 degrees, still approximately
> 20 degrees hotter than at other restaurants. Third
> degree burns occur at this temperature in just two to seven
> seconds, requiring skin grafting, debridement and
> whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and
> result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and
> disability to the victims for many months, and in some cases,
> years.

Oh ,boo hoo hoo.

JoelnCaryn

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May 26, 2002, 1:54:11 AM5/26/02
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>How many people do you
>know that are stupid enough to cradle a hot cup of coffee between
>their legs whether they're driving or not? Why not place it in the
>vehicles cup holder?

FWIW, my car doesn't have a cupholder.

--
Caryn
Be nice to your neighbor. Be hell to his ideas.

Bob Ward

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May 27, 2002, 1:57:41 PM5/27/02
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On Sun, 26 May 2002 05:23:19 GMT, "Sharx." <sha...@nospam.com> wrote:

>-:> this topic. :) I've no more time for it.
>-:>
>-:> People always believe whatever they want to believe anyway.
>-:>
>-:> Pat
>-:
>-:Humbug. If she had tried suing me, believe it, she would REALLY regret it.
>-:
>-:


True - you can't get blood out of a turnip.


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May 27, 2002, 1:59:35 PM5/27/02
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On Sat, 25 May 2002 08:50:26 -0500, krh <ken970...@eudora.com>
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>-:
>-:So, companies are at fault for people ignoring logic and common sense?
>-:So, they set out on a contrived plan to set up these law suits so they
>-:can get tort reform? Interesting.
>-:....

Companies are at fault (in this case) for selling coffee that was
significantly hotter than the industry standard, in spite of the fact
that over 700 cases had been settled out of court to avoid public
discl;osure of the facts of those cases.

Bob Ward

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May 27, 2002, 2:02:26 PM5/27/02
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On Sat, 25 May 2002 06:49:53 -0500, krh <ken970...@eudora.com>
wrote:

>-:
>-:Now that's interesting. Since the news didn't report the facts, Was
>-:culpability shifted primarily to the company because people insisted
>-:on drinking their coffee while the vehicle was moving? Did customers
>-:they try to balance the coffee between their legs while driving? Was
>-:40 degrees hotter around 200 degrees? So, they kept their coffee 40
>-:degrees hotter than competing restaurants. Could that mean that
>-:competing companies saw the handwriting on the wall from a litigious
>-:society and lowered their temperatures because of that and not because
>-:coffee doesn't taste as good at 160 degrees?


Why do you continue to post, proving that you are totally unfamiliar
with the facts of the case, and in spite of the fact that those facts
have been posted here within the last couple of days?

Bob Ward

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May 27, 2002, 2:04:04 PM5/27/02
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On Sat, 25 May 2002 17:53:44 -0500, krh <ken970...@eudora.com>
wrote:

>-:You fucking can't read either, can you? How do you know the real
>-:truth. At the time, news reports clearly stated the woman was driving
>-:off from the window after cradling the cup between her legs and
>-:sometime in the parking lot the coffee spilled. How many people do you
>-:know that are stupid enough to cradle a hot cup of coffee between
>-:their legs whether they're driving or not? Why not place it in the
>-:vehicles cup holder?
>-:>


Apparently the news reports (or you) were wrong.

Where is your evidence that there was a cup holder in the vehicle in
the first place?

Bob Ward

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May 27, 2002, 2:04:47 PM5/27/02
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On Sun, 26 May 2002 05:25:23 GMT, "Sharx." <sha...@nospam.com> wrote:

>-:> Annette
>-:
>-:Yeah, right. Whatever. And you believe in the tooth fairy, right?
>-:
>-:
>-:
You've taken up dentistry? I thought you were the TAX fairy.

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