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hd...@earthlink.net

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Oct 21, 2006, 8:18:52 PM10/21/06
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I'm looking to buy a Riccar Radiance Vacuum cleaner. Anyone have any
opinions on this model of vacuum cleaner. Anyone willing to share what
they paid for one??? I'm trying to find a reasonable price because the
price I was quoted may be too high.

Salesperson quoted 749.95 and then offered to knock off 75.00 with my
TWO trade in vacuum cleaners. One is an older Phantom and the other is
a Bissell Cleanview Bagless. So final quote was 674.95. Is this too
much for this model????

Also included would be the first 3 years of maintenance (changing
filters/ with new bag).

This seems to be a nice vacuum cleaner with 6 year warranty.

I don't expect really anything for the two trade in vacuum cleaners,
but I would like to know if the price is relative to what others have
paid. Anyone know what the markup for vacuum cleaners are??? What
would be a fair price to offer them??

hchi...@hotmail.com

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Oct 22, 2006, 12:54:33 AM10/22/06
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hd...@earthlink.net wrote:

>Salesperson quoted 749.95 and then offered to knock off 75.00 with my
>TWO trade in vacuum cleaners.

If you are planning to spend that much on a vacuum cleaner, you have
too much money. For that price, you can get homeless people to come
over and lick your floor clean.

hd...@earthlink.net

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Oct 22, 2006, 7:28:57 AM10/22/06
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hchi...@hotmail.com wrote:

> If you are planning to spend that much on a vacuum cleaner, you have
> too much money. For that price, you can get homeless people to come
> over and lick your floor clean.

I'm trying to find a decent vacuum cleaner that I don't have to throw
away every year - which has happened to every cheap cleaner that I've
ever owned. Everyone bought through Walmart type stores. All of them
plastic and very light.

I think this way would be cheaper in the long run. If I hire homeless
people, I would like to at least pay a decent wage and make sure they
were Americans.....I'm not a republican!!!!! And that would cost more
that 700 over six years!!!!

So, I think it would be cheaper in the long run to buy an "American
Made" vacuum cleaner at that price.

Gary Heston

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Oct 22, 2006, 11:55:02 AM10/22/06
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In article <1161516537.7...@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<hd...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[ ... ]

> I'm trying to find a decent vacuum cleaner that I don't have to throw
>away every year - which has happened to every cheap cleaner that I've
>ever owned. Everyone bought through Walmart type stores. All of them
>plastic and very light.

>I think this way would be cheaper in the long run. If I hire homeless
>people, I would like to at least pay a decent wage and make sure they
>were Americans.....I'm not a republican!!!!! And that would cost more
>that 700 over six years!!!!

>So, I think it would be cheaper in the long run to buy an "American
>Made" vacuum cleaner at that price.

Have you checked with local vacuum repair shops for a good older Hoover
or Electrolux? They'll be relatively inexpensive and will probably last
longer than any new vacuum you can get today.


Gary

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m...@privacy.net

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Oct 22, 2006, 12:49:27 PM10/22/06
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hd...@earthlink.net wrote:

> I'm trying to find a decent vacuum cleaner that I don't have to throw
>away every year - which has happened to every cheap cleaner that I've
>ever owned. Everyone bought through Walmart type stores. All of them
>plastic and very light.

Up right vacuum seem to be an area where low cost and
quality don't exist any more.

I agree that most of them are junk. Plus they have
LOT of onboard tools and crap I don't want in an
upright.

What I want in an upright is HEPA bags or filtering....
robustness..... simple clean design. Plus something
that doesn't cost $700.

Anyway ..... it doesn't seem like rocket science to me
and I cant understand why the choices are so crappy!

rant mode off

Your name

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Oct 22, 2006, 8:55:23 PM10/22/06
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ghe...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote in news:12jn52m...@corp.supernews.com:

> So, I think it would be cheaper in the long run to buy an "American
>>Made" vacuum cleaner at that price.
>
> Have you checked with local vacuum repair shops for a good older Hoover
> or Electrolux? They'll be relatively inexpensive and will probably last
> longer than any new vacuum you can get today.
>
>
> Gary
>
>

I agree with the above, also check for Kirby vacuums. Ours was left out at the curb by a landlord
whose tenant left it behind. We spent $120 getting it overhauled by a Kirby shop, and it will outlast
us.

J.

Arthur Shapiro

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Oct 23, 2006, 12:25:03 PM10/23/06
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In article <1161476332.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, hd...@earthlink.net wrote:
>I'm looking to buy a Riccar Radiance Vacuum cleaner. Anyone have any
>opinions on this model of vacuum cleaner.

As you are talking about the expenditure of a nontrivial amount of money, a
few hours spent on this site's forum, arguably the best resource for vacuum
enthusiasts, might well be worthwhile:

http://www.whatsthebest-vacuum.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=wtb-vacuum

Art

Zuke

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Oct 23, 2006, 1:45:24 PM10/23/06
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Arthur Shapiro wrote:

> In article <1161476332.1...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, hd...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> I'm looking to buy a Riccar Radiance Vacuum cleaner. Anyone have any
>> opinions on this model of vacuum cleaner.
>

This question sucks.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Maybe do a google search, might be interesting what you find.
I find usually there is some feedback on just about any
existing product.


seeri...@yahoo.com

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Oct 23, 2006, 1:47:34 PM10/23/06
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Wouldn't your post be better served in the misc.consumers.moneybags
newsgroup? :) But if you're going to buy a cadillac vacuum...why not a
Rainbow or a Kirby?

BTW...my $399 Dyson (original model) is still going strong.

seeri...@yahoo.com

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Oct 23, 2006, 1:50:16 PM10/23/06
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epinions.com is a very good place to get multiple reviews from
"consumers" who have bought stuff. Plus they do go back after the
honeymoon is over to correct their original opinions, sometimes.

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Seerialmom

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Oct 23, 2006, 7:00:36 PM10/23/06
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jdoe wrote:

> On 23 Oct 2006 10:47:34 -0700, seeri...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> ?
> >
> >BTW...my $399 Dyson (original model) is still going strong.
> agreed, for my money dyson can't be beat

To be honest, the only thing I don't like about the Dyson is it has
such good suction that my poor, old, threadbare carpet circa 1977 is
wrapping it's loose strings and hair around the beater brush. That's
why I tend to "pre-vacuum" with my Kenmore upright and then use the
Dyson; at least until I get new carpet in the house :)

Shawn Hirn

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Oct 24, 2006, 12:12:41 AM10/24/06
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> hchi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > If you are planning to spend that much on a vacuum cleaner, you have
> > too much money. For that price, you can get homeless people to come
> > over and lick your floor clean.
>
> I'm trying to find a decent vacuum cleaner that I don't have to throw
> away every year - which has happened to every cheap cleaner that I've
> ever owned. Everyone bought through Walmart type stores. All of them
> plastic and very light.

Check Consumer Reports. They did a review on vacuum cleaners one or two
months ago. You can find the review at a public library and on
http://www.consumerreports.org

SoCalMike

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Oct 24, 2006, 12:54:15 AM10/24/06
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hd...@earthlink.net wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a Riccar Radiance Vacuum cleaner. Anyone have any
> opinions on this model of vacuum cleaner. Anyone willing to share what
> they paid for one??? I'm trying to find a reasonable price because the
> price I was quoted may be too high.
>
> Salesperson quoted 749.95

screw that. id get whatever is top rated by consumer reports in the $100
range, and also get a $50 shop vac.

there is NO vacuum thats worth that kind of money, ever.

get em at costco, and youve got a lifetime warranty, prretty much.

SoCalMike

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Oct 24, 2006, 12:56:32 AM10/24/06
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m...@privacy.net wrote:
> What I want in an upright is HEPA bags or filtering....
> robustness..... simple clean design. Plus something
> that doesn't cost $700.

i think sams sold/sells a basic commercial upright model- the kind hotel
housekeeping uses. hoover or bissel, i think. cant get much more rugged
than that. chrome handle, spring-mounted bag, and under $100.

SMS

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Oct 24, 2006, 4:08:40 AM10/24/06
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hd...@earthlink.net wrote:
> hchi...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> If you are planning to spend that much on a vacuum cleaner, you have
>> too much money. For that price, you can get homeless people to come
>> over and lick your floor clean.
>
> I'm trying to find a decent vacuum cleaner that I don't have to throw
> away every year - which has happened to every cheap cleaner that I've
> ever owned. Everyone bought through Walmart type stores. All of them
> plastic and very light.

In one sense you're correct that the el-cheapo vacuums tend to not last
very long, but you can get a good commercial vacuum for a lot less than
what you're planning to spend, $250 tops. I've had a Panasonic
Commercial Vac for about ten years, while relatives have gone through a
succession of Hoover and Eureka junk.

You won't find these vacuums in department stores, you have to go to
either a vacuum cleaner specialty store, or to a janitorial supply house.

Go to Costco.com and search for "927339" for the Eureka C5712A
commercial model.

Also look at the Panasonic commercial models, Froogle "MC-V5210".

SMS

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Oct 24, 2006, 4:18:43 AM10/24/06
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Not super low-cost, but there are many commercial uprights that are
available in the $200 price range. They lack all the gadgetry.

The problem is that you can't go to a department store and buy one. You
have to go to a store that sells commercial vacuums, such as a
janitorial supply house. Costco does sell one on-line, a Eureka
commercial for $200.

The real issue is that you can make a piece of garbage for $25,
wholesale it for $50, and retail it for $75, so no one is going to pay
$200 at Target or Wal-Mart for a vacuum that lacks on-board tools, a
digital dirt sensor, etc. People still look at the amperage of the motor
to determine cleaning ability. I'm sure that there are many puzzled
engineers in China, wondering why these Americans are asking them to
design inefficient motors that use as much power as possible.

Not sure how true it is, but I remember a story that one company
designed a very quiet vacuum cleaner, that cleaned very well, but it
didn't sell well because customers associated a high noise level with
better cleaning.

m...@privacy.net

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Oct 24, 2006, 10:41:09 AM10/24/06
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SoCalMike <Mikein562...@hotmail.com> wrote:

yes you are correct I did see that at Sam's as well and
it caught my eye

It was a Sanitaire model, correct?

m...@privacy.net

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Oct 24, 2006, 10:43:00 AM10/24/06
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SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>Costco does sell one on-line, a Eureka
>commercial for $200.

Is this it?

http://tinyurl.com/v62px

m...@privacy.net

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Oct 24, 2006, 10:43:38 AM10/24/06
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SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>Go to Costco.com and search for "927339" for the Eureka C5712A
>commercial model.

Do you own this one?

m...@privacy.net

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Oct 24, 2006, 10:53:20 AM10/24/06
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SoCalMike <Mikein562...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>screw that. id get whatever is top rated by consumer reports in the $100
>range, and also get a $50 shop vac.

I use separate upright and small shop vac as well.
Works out well. that's why I have no need for onboard
"tools" on the upright.

>get em at costco, and youve got a lifetime warranty, prretty much.


Agree

bat

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Nov 16, 2006, 10:40:36 AM11/16/06
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h> So, I think it would be cheaper in the long run to buy an "American
h> Made" vacuum cleaner at that price.

I think it's wrong assumption that American-made automatically means high
quality. There are incompetent engineers and companies whose phylosophy is
"get money and run" in every country including America. In fact, in America
such companies have probably the most preferential treatment.

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