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Re: Basic advice for an oven bake element house fire (GE JBP24B0B4WH)

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crum...@gmail.com

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Oct 8, 2008, 5:19:33 PM10/8/08
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On Oct 7, 9:47 pm, Donna Ohl <donna....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Can I just replace the bake element (or is the oven really kaput)?
> Can anyone tell me what actually caused the fire (it wasn't food)?http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2923845906/ )

Listen ditszy,

Save yourself some money and replace the entire stove. You're worrying
your pretty little head over a very common occurrance. Most broil oven
elements only last three to five years so you're lucky you got as much
as you did out of the one you have. When you turned off the heat, in
your blonde moment (probably all the time) you turned it back on or
hit the wrong dial because the arcing would have stopped then and
there.

And, the fire extinguisher didn't put out the arcing because it was
still arcing and if was the top element (broil you ditz, not bake).
Here you are spraying powder on an upside down fire. Think about it.
The powder smothers the fire only if it lands on the fire. You would
have to turn the entire oven upside down for the fire extinguisher to
work, you idiot.

As for the part numbers, your oven is a GE Spectra white. Take the WH
off the part number BTW, it stands for white. That oven has to be at
least five to ten years old so fat chance you'll ever find the part at
GE for that. If you do find it, expect to pay upwards of $70 for it
(PN WB44T10009 for the top broil and PN WB44T100010 for the bottom
bake element).

What happened is you were dumb enough to have a splat of grease on the
element, which over time weakened the steel casing which over time
melted which over time exposed the inner resistive wire which over
time moved enough to get close to the ungrounded case of the oven
which arced frightfully (for you) which then cracked when you splashed
water or fire extinguisher on it which opened the circuit which killed
the arcing.

I have no idea what the "whoosh" sound was ..... probably the air
leaving your head as you concentrated on ruining your oven.

You can replace the element for a few hundred bucks with a service
call, or, if you do it yourself, you will almost certainly drop the
wires in the back as you unscrew them off the element so that you'll
have to pay a technician a few hundred bucks to take the oven apart to
get to the wires you dropped.

Anyway, if you like, call GE and they'll confirm everything I said (I
used to work for GE by the way).
GE tech support 800-626-2005
GE customer service 800-432-2737
GE oven appliances 800-386-1215
GE appliance parts 800-626-2002
GE troubleshooting 800-626-2000
GE Spectra JBP24B0B4 upper broil element P/N: WB44T10009
GE Spectra JBP24B0B4 lower bake element P/N: WB44T10010

Respectfully yours

NoSpa...@lousyisp.gov

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Oct 8, 2008, 8:32:56 PM10/8/08
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crum...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Oct 7, 9:47 pm, Donna Ohl <donna....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Can I just replace the bake element (or is the oven really kaput)?
>> Can anyone tell me what actually caused the fire (it wasn't food)?http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2923845906/ )

>As for the part numbers, your oven is a GE Spectra white. Take the WH


>off the part number BTW, it stands for white. That oven has to be at
>least five to ten years old so fat chance you'll ever find the part at
>GE for that. If you do find it, expect to pay upwards of $70 for it
>(PN WB44T10009 for the top broil and PN WB44T100010 for the bottom
>bake element).

Upper element from:

http://www.repairclinic.com/SmartSearch/SSPartDetail.aspx?PartID=770548&PPStack=1

$53.70

Lower element:

http://www.repairclinic.com/SmartSearch/SSPartDetail.aspx?PartID=770549&PPStack=1

$49.50

Both in stock for immediate delivery.

>Anyway, if you like, call GE and they'll confirm everything I said (I
>used to work for GE by the way).
>GE tech support 800-626-2005
>GE customer service 800-432-2737
>GE oven appliances 800-386-1215
>GE appliance parts 800-626-2002
>GE troubleshooting 800-626-2000
>GE Spectra JBP24B0B4 upper broil element P/N: WB44T10009
>GE Spectra JBP24B0B4 lower bake element P/N: WB44T10010

Call the Repair Clinic guy at 800-269-2609 instead. He's a lot more
friendly.


Donna Ohl

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Oct 10, 2008, 2:54:09 AM10/10/08
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:32:56 GMT, NoSpa...@LousyISP.gov wrote:
> Call the Repair Clinic guy at 800-269-2609 instead.
> He's a lot more friendly.


Hi NoSpam,

Actually, I called the numbers that Crumb Bum gave us and GE, after about a
half hour of bouncing around, wrote up a work ticket for me and kindly
shipped the element at an 80% discount and they even dropped the shipping.

The only thing I had to pay full on was the tax (which for California is
over 8%).

The new genuine GE element should arrive soon from UPS at a total cost of
about $38 off my credit card.

So, even though Crumb Bum must have been under the weather that day, he
helped me get the parts for a great price (I think).

BTW, the GE parts representative kept touting "genuine GE" but I wonder if
all the parts are the same. I'll bet they are.

Anyone know which brand of oven parts is any better or worse than the
others?

Donna

Al Bundy

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Oct 10, 2008, 4:25:22 PM10/10/08
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On Oct 10, 2:54 am, Donna Ohl <donna....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

GE has never been the same since Ronny quit advertising for them.

jeff....@gmail.com

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Dec 2, 2008, 11:05:55 PM12/2/08
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Um, it's ditzy... No s. But I wouldn't expect decent grammar or typing
skills from someone with enough gall to respond "You're worrying your
pretty little head over a very common occurrance(sp)." Is your wife
barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen? Probably not. I wouldn't expect
a woman to fall for a sad sap with a protruding neanderthalic forehead
and a job with his name on his shirt, but people amaze me. Next time
you feel kind enough to respond to someone's question, keep your can
of crap to yourself and try to help without being a complete asshole,
you foreskin wrinkle.

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