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BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 10, 2007, 5:09:10 PM11/10/07
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Is this a fair practice? Arab-owned and Asian Indian-owned food marker
dealers are purchasing sufficient quantities, of food items from
discount srores as Aldi and Save A Lot, and
stocking them in their own stores with a boost in price? Then they
expect cusromers to buy them along with Name Brand items (which are
also higher in price but that is understood.).

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Nov 10, 2007, 5:48:25 PM11/10/07
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BrotherSandMonkey wrote:

Unfortunately, Walmart does the same thing - they buy goods, mark up
the price and then sell them along side name brand goods.

Come to think of it, Home Depot, Sears, Target, Staples and Gap do the
same unfair practice of marking up the price on goods they buy.

catalpa

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Nov 10, 2007, 6:07:42 PM11/10/07
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"BrotherSandMonkey" <bli...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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What businesses sell items every day at their own cost?

What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?


Don K

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Nov 10, 2007, 6:23:21 PM11/10/07
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"BrotherSandMonkey" <bli...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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That is not scalping.

Scalping is when someone corners the market on something and charges
many times the original purchase price.

Mark-up is when someone buys goods and resells them at a higher price
sufficient to make a reasonable profit.

All stores engage in mark-up. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.

Don


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Nov 10, 2007, 6:31:45 PM11/10/07
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catalpa wrote:

>>
>>
>
>What businesses sell items every day at their own cost?
>
>
>

Many inexperienced eBay sellers (frequently below their real costs when
they are ignorant of their real costs)..

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 11, 2007, 3:28:06 PM11/11/07
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On Nov 10, 6:31 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
wrote:

> Many inexperienced eBay sellers (frequently below their real costs when
> they are ignorant of their real costs)..

I read of a woman who bought clothes in large quantities in order
to sell on eBay (where such items as human organs were sold sometime
ago!) to make a profit and ended up selling them cheaply on eBay just
to get rid of them. People want bargains on eBay, where items can be
overpriced...such as retro items made a few years ago being passed off
as authentic original 60s collectibles. Simply a con.

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 11, 2007, 3:29:00 PM11/11/07
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On Nov 10, 5:48 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
wrote:

> Unfortunately, Walmart does the same thing - they buy goods, mark up
> the price and then sell them along side name brand goods.
>
> Come to think of it, Home Depot, Sears, Target, Staples and Gap do the
> same unfair practice of marking up the price on goods they buy.

Ah, but that is what wholesale outfits are supposed to be
for...these Arab and Asian small food market operators
(who at times illegally sell nonfood items on food ebt debit cards
(formerly known as food stamps)) ought to be shopping at
wholesale outfits which supply to retailers like them. Otherwise, it
is cheating. They must think that customers in thei
meighborhoods where they operate are stupid, impoverished nicely
dressed, Fortybowl (aka 40 oz. malt liquor) African
and other Americans. There needs to be a law to forbid such
practices. (Charmuta!)

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 11, 2007, 3:33:15 PM11/11/07
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On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
> What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?

Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
need to get their products from a wholesale
outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?


BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 11, 2007, 3:37:42 PM11/11/07
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On Nov 10, 6:23 pm, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
>
> Mark-up is when someone buys goods and resells them at a higher price
> sufficient to make a reasonable profit.
>
> All stores engage in mark-up. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.


Whateva ya call it, have it markup. There should be scruples in the
manner it's done and *what* products.
Not Aldi and Save A Lot products. They should be sold to consumers
only, not dealers. "No dealers. Thank you."
I've seen this polite warning before.

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Nov 11, 2007, 4:50:32 PM11/11/07
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BrotherSandMonkey wrote:

With a relative in the restaurant business, I can vouch that many items
at Sams, Costco, etc are cheaper than typical wholesalers.

Logan Shaw

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Nov 11, 2007, 8:14:50 PM11/11/07
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Why do they need to? Because you want them to?

How is this different than when The UPS Store sells stamps at a premium?
You can go buy them at the regular post office for less, so by your rules
The UPS Store should not be allowed to offer them.

- Logan

larry

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Nov 12, 2007, 3:24:54 AM11/12/07
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> They must think that customers in thei
> meighborhoods where they operate are stupid, impoverished nicely
> dressed, Fortybowl (aka 40 oz. malt liquor) African
> and other Americans. There needs to be a law to forbid such
> practices. (Charmuta!)
>

More basic problem, they have no transportation and have to
pay what the local stores charge. Pay to the store owner is
good, being mostly state aid card or cash. Cost is not a
real issue, since the locals are not paying for the goods
anyhow. The taxpayer pays. The elderly also need a local
store to survive, even good public transport can't get them
to the malls and large shopping centers.

I knew a family than ran a large chain of small "corner"
stores in the poor parts of town. First thing every morning
was a stop at the Sams and the bakery discount stores to
stock their stores for the day.

A law? Don't think for a minute that government can
transport those goods to these neighborhoods as efficiently
as the overpriced corner stores. If you want to help, and
are near one of these neighborhoods, offer to shop the basic
items a family needs, while you're shopping at your
superstore. Most of the elderly are very isolated and five
minutes of your time every other day may even save a life,
and both of you benefit. Next time you're at the grocery
store, behind a little old lady (or gent) with a small
selection of basics, and digging out change to pay, tell the
clerk to put it on your bill. That $5-10 will get you an
elderly smile, and amazed clerk look, you will remember a
long time. Meals on wheels can only do so much.

-- larry / dallas

SpammersDie

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Nov 12, 2007, 7:59:28 AM11/12/07
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So the customer is given a free choice: spend the extra time and fuel to
drive to the individual "wholesalers" to get the lowest possible price tag
or pay a markup in exchange for the retailer transporting the goods to one
convenient location where he can do all his weekly shopping in one trip. The
fact that customers choose of their own will to do so means it's a fair
tradeoff. Which is hardly surprising: it's a lot more efficient to have one
truck transport hundreds of items than hundreds of individual cars transport
one family's purchases each.

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Nov 12, 2007, 8:12:28 AM11/12/07
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SpammersDie wrote:

It's a lot like driving four miles out of your way to save $0.50 on a
gallon of milk or 5 cents on each gallon of gas.

Seerialmom

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Nov 12, 2007, 2:16:57 PM11/12/07
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On Nov 11, 12:37 pm, BrotherSandMonkey <blin...@volcanomail.com>
wrote:

I have seen limits on some loss-leaders in grocery stores before.
However your original argument is very biased; I doubt the "problem"
is limited to Arab or Asian stores (if it even is a problem, that is).

James

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Nov 12, 2007, 3:46:37 PM11/12/07
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I don't see the problem.

No one is forcing you to shop at the corner store. You get convenience
and you pay more. I worked at a corner store, then at a 711 when I was
in high school. Thats the consumers choice. Buying loss leaders at
retail as well as wholesalers, thats the convenience store owners
choice.

I have seen store brands at corner stores in Canada. But I also know
that some of these stores brands can be bought at certain wholesalers
who are owned by supermarket chains. These wholesalers sometimes get
overstocksed items to sell off cheap.

I do see some people take advantage of loss leaders. Thats the grocery
stores problem, not mine. I will admit that on non -perishables I will
stock up myself, even making an extra trip if there are enough
bargains.

James

Seerialmom

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Nov 12, 2007, 11:46:57 PM11/12/07
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Yes it's fair. And you can also find items that were in Dollar Tree
or the 99¢ Only store at flea markets as well as the aforementioned
ethnic stores. I've often seen items at 99¢ Only store that could be
repackaged/repurposed and sold for higher prices (if I had that
initiative, that is). Last, around Christmas just take a look at the
local want ads or eBay...you'll see the "hot toy/gadget" going for
much higher than what it originally sold for. This is the root of
capitalism, right? Those sellers are counting on people who aren't
savvy enough to find the items when they were cheap or are perhaps
"wheel challenged" (hence the mom/pop grocery stores in the inner
cities).

James

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Nov 13, 2007, 10:42:09 AM11/13/07
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Lets be realistic.

Grocery stores work on volume. Most food items have a markup of a
couple of percent. (non groceries may be much much higher) Loss
leaders may be so far below wholesale prices it makes them attractive.

A mom and pop convenience store has to make a much higher markup just
to break even - their relative costs are higher. They don't buy in the
same quantities that grocery chains do.

Such a law would foce these places out of business, and we would all
be poorer for it.

James

Seerialmom

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Nov 13, 2007, 1:48:50 PM11/13/07
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> James- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have no problem with the practice of buying from one store and
selling in another; it was the OP who was using the veiled argument
about fairness (when it was really something completely different but
I think we all did a pretty good job at ignoring it).

James

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Nov 13, 2007, 1:55:25 PM11/13/07
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> I think we all did a pretty good job at ignoring it).- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Not arguing with you, agreeing....

James

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Nov 13, 2007, 8:54:47 PM11/13/07
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On Nov 12, 1:24 am, larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> > They must think that customers in thei
> > meighborhoods where they operate are stupid, impoverished nicely
> > dressed, Fortybowl (aka 40 oz. malt liquor) African
> > and other Americans. There needs to be a law to forbid such
> > practices. (Charmuta!)
>
> More basic problem, they have no transportation and have to
> pay what the local stores charge. Pay to the store owner is
> good, being mostly state aid card or cash. Cost is not a
> real issue, since the locals are not paying for the goods
> anyhow. The taxpayer pays. The elderly also need a local
> store to survive, even good public transport can't get them
> to the malls and large shopping centers.
>
> I knew a family than ran a large chain of small "corner"
> stores in the poor parts of town. First thing every morning
> was a stop at the Sams and the bakery discount stores to
> stock their stores for the day.

I hate to tell you, but that is exactly what Sam's does!!! They are
"in business, for business". Many of their goods are marked as
"packaged for resale" or whatever. 'Course, it's good for Sam's that
they also sell to me directly.
All those corner stores are pretty much convenience stores. If, as
you say, the customers can't get around to other stores, then someone
has to be able to sell to them. Buying at Sam's might be cheaper than
buying at some wholesaler (or the store owners would buy wholesale
too), so it works out for everyone.


> A law? Don't think for a minute that government can
> transport those goods to these neighborhoods as efficiently
> as the overpriced corner stores.

Nor should they even try. Government can't run a business, as we have
seen.

> If you want to help, and
> are near one of these neighborhoods, offer to shop the basic
> items a family needs, while you're shopping at your
> superstore. Most of the elderly are very isolated and five
> minutes of your time every other day may even save a life,
> and both of you benefit. Next time you're at the grocery
> store, behind a little old lady (or gent) with a small
> selection of basics, and digging out change to pay, tell the
> clerk to put it on your bill. That $5-10 will get you an
> elderly smile, and amazed clerk look, you will remember a
> long time. Meals on wheels can only do so much.

Well-placed charity is never a bad idea.

> -- larry / dallas


BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 14, 2007, 5:26:05 PM11/14/07
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On Nov 11, 4:50 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
wrote:
> BrotherSandMonkey wrote:

>
> With a relative in the restaurant business, I can vouch that many items

> at Sams, Costco, etc are cheaper than typical wholesalers.- Hide quoted text -

Not for dealers to buy. For the individual consumer.

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 14, 2007, 5:28:36 PM11/14/07
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On Nov 11, 8:14 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
> >> What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?
>
> > Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
> > need to get their products from a wholesale
> > outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
> > afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
> > and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?
>
> Why do they need to? Because you want them to?


No, Aldi and Save A Lot need to adapt a "No Dealers" policy. Is
all.

> How is this different than when The UPS Store sells stamps at a premium?
> You can go buy them at the regular post office for less, so by your rules
> The UPS Store should not be allowed to offer them.

UPS is not Arab/Asian Indian small markets.


BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 14, 2007, 5:38:58 PM11/14/07
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On Nov 12, 3:24 am, larry <no...@home.com> wrote:

> More basic problem, they have no transportation and have to
> pay what the local stores charge. Pay to the store owner is
> good, being mostly state aid card or cash. Cost is not a
> real issue, since the locals are not paying for the goods
> anyhow. The taxpayer pays. The elderly also need a local
> store to survive, even good public transport can't get them
> to the malls and large shopping centers.

Sure, but they shouldn't stock Aldi and Save A Lot items, because
low income and elderly pay thru the
nose for what is worth and costs less. But Aldi and Save A Lot don't
stock Forty Bowls.

> I knew a family than ran a large chain of small "corner"
> stores in the poor parts of town. First thing every morning
> was a stop at the Sams and the bakery discount stores to
> stock their stores for the day.

Different. Unless Sams adapts a no dealers policy. The family
wasn't Arab or Asian Indian, huh?

> A law? Don't think for a minute that government can
> transport those goods to these neighborhoods as efficiently
> as the overpriced corner stores. If you want to help, and
> are near one of these neighborhoods, offer to shop the basic
> items a family needs, while you're shopping at your
> superstore. Most of the elderly are very isolated and five
> minutes of your time every other day may even save a life,
> and both of you benefit. Next time you're at the grocery
> store, behind a little old lady (or gent) with a small
> selection of basics, and digging out change to pay, tell the
> clerk to put it on your bill. That $5-10 will get you an
> elderly smile, and amazed clerk look, you will remember a
> long time.

I'm not talking about Name Brands; I'm talking Off Brand (Aldi and
Save A Lot are Off Brand, natch) products
at prices similar to Name Brands in the Same F**ing Sand Monkey/Third
World Monkey stores.
Hell. no other people wants to stay in a store all those long hours,
not even our African American friends have
the patience to run their own 'hood stores.

> Meals on wheels can only do so much.

Never said it did. But we're not talking them per se, our
elders.

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 14, 2007, 5:43:02 PM11/14/07
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On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I have seen limits on some loss-leaders in grocery stores before.

> However your original argument is very biased.

Fine, let it be biased to you. Malt liquor from those stores
doesn't help quality of life in those 'hoods, either.
Let alone ripping off the hooders with marked-up Aldi and Save A Lot
items; those clever sand monkeys.
The war we're dealing with is sand monkey-oriented too, sad.


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Nov 14, 2007, 7:30:06 PM11/14/07
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BrotherSandMonkey wrote:

Are you suggesting Sams, Costco, BJ's etc should forbid dealers /
retailers from buying at their locations?

Logan Shaw

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Nov 14, 2007, 9:30:32 PM11/14/07
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BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
> On Nov 11, 8:14 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
>>> On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
>>>> What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?
>>> Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
>>> need to get their products from a wholesale
>>> outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
>>> afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
>>> and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?
>> Why do they need to? Because you want them to?
>
>
> No, Aldi and Save A Lot need to adapt a "No Dealers" policy. Is
> all.

Define "need". Who needs this? Why?

>> How is this different than when The UPS Store sells stamps at a premium?
>> You can go buy them at the regular post office for less, so by your rules
>> The UPS Store should not be allowed to offer them.

> UPS is not Arab/Asian Indian small markets.

The two most obvious interpretations of that are that you think:
(1) big corporations should be allowed to but small business shouldn't, or
(2) "American" businesses should be allowed to but ethnic ones shouldn't.

Since both of those are silly, hopefully you mean something else.

- Logan

James

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Nov 15, 2007, 11:31:19 AM11/15/07
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Let's stop feeding the racist troll he is enjoying this too much.

James

larry

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Nov 15, 2007, 12:59:50 PM11/15/07
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BrotherSandMonkey wrote:
> On Nov 12, 3:24 am, larry <no...@home.com> wrote:

>>I knew a family than ran a large chain of small "corner"
>>stores in the poor parts of town.

> Different. Unless Sams adapts a no dealers policy. The family
> wasn't Arab or Asian Indian, huh?

The family wasn't, just the people that worked there ;-)

But it's no different than the contractors and other trades
around here.

-larry / dallas

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 17, 2007, 4:28:21 PM11/17/07
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On Nov 12, 11:46 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2:09 pm, BrotherSandMonkey <blin...@volcanomail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is this a fair practice? Arab-owned and Asian Indian-owned food marker
> > dealers are purchasing sufficient quantities, of food items from
> >discountsrores as Aldi and Save A Lot, and

> > stocking them in their own stores with a boost in price? Then they
> > expect cusromers to buy them along with Name Brand items (which are
> > also higher in price but that is understood.).
>
> Yes it's fair. And you can also find items that were in Dollar Tree
> or the 99¢ Only store at flea markets as well as the aforementioned
> ethnic stores.


> I've often seen items at 99¢ Only store that could be
> repackaged/repurposed and sold for higher prices (if I had that
> initiative, that is).

Now, that's somewhat a rip idea, trying to make a buck off an SSI
recepient or PA resident living in a hood
where the sandboys run the show.


>Last, around Christmas just take a look at the
> local want ads or eBay...you'll see the "hot toy/gadget" going for
> much higher than what it originally sold for.

Right, a rip.


> This is the root of capitalism, right?

This is what the MOSLEM world HATES, sister, capitalism.


> Those sellers are counting on people who aren't
> savvy enough to find the items when they were cheap or are perhaps
> "wheel challenged" (hence the mom/pop grocery stores in the inner
> cities).

Well, that is matter of factly, a rip. An item cannot be escalated
a year later as a rare or hot item, nothing
but a rip. Wait ten years for value to rise well.

No, it ain't fair; it's the sandmonkey dealers that don't want to
go to the wholesale outfit (usually
they have their own, and SHOULD have their OWN, they also have their
own stores where they stock for their own
sand-homeboys) but think African bros are stupid malt liquor-slurping
apes who don't eat anything only buy
Fortybowls, lottery tickets, clothes and maybe... white powder....it
ain't the case. Smart sistas shop at Dollar
Tree (like you mentioned) and take the BUS to Aldi and Save A Lot to
bypass the clever Sandboys in their hoods.

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 17, 2007, 4:33:26 PM11/17/07
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On Nov 13, 10:42 am, James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
>
> Lets be realistic.
>
> Grocery stores work on volume. Most food items have a markup of a
> couple of percent. (non groceries may be much much higher) Loss
> leaders may be so far below wholesale prices it makes them attractive.
>
> A mom and pop convenience store has to make a much higher markup just
> to break even - their relative costs are higher. They don't buy in the
> same quantities that grocery chains do.
>
> Such a law would foce these places out of business, and we would all
> be poorer for it.

Mom and Pop stores? That's a thiong of the past, at least in the
inner city. It's sandmonkey and
Asian Indian (India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan) convenience
stores, Jimmy. These clever
hot climate 'refugees' especially the Yemenites loan $ to each other
within interest and the thing
may be they don't have to pay tax for the first year or so.

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 17, 2007, 4:37:32 PM11/17/07
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On Nov 13, 1:48 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have no problem with the practice of buying from one store and
> selling in another; it was the OP who was using the veiled argument
> about fairness (when it was really something completely different but
> I think we all did a pretty good job at ignoring it).- Hide quoted text -

Selling in a retail store with merchandise bought in a wholesale
outfit is the fair practice. And maybe these
sandmonkey stores may be 1. selling beer and nonfood items for food
stamp debit cards and 2. supplying
contraband operators of their kind with $ made to give our govt a
hard time. I'm sure you get my drift, sister,


BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 17, 2007, 4:38:54 PM11/17/07
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On Nov 14, 7:30 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>

You said it, brother, not I.

BrotherSandMonkey

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Nov 17, 2007, 4:47:20 PM11/17/07
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On Nov 15, 11:31 am, James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:

> Let's stop feeding the racist troll he is enjoying this too much.

If it is racism, it's reverse racism against nonArab and nonAsian
Indian peoples in the sense of buying and selling.
Am I enjoying it? I'm glad to get my ire out of my system by stating
the issue here for you to read. Believe me,
I'm not wasting your or my time. I thank you for your responses
regardless of whether you agree or not. If enough
people would complain, there could be something done. Charmuta!
(Arab=bitch, used as a cuss word) I worked
for an Arab dealer once, a Palestinian, not a third world Arab or
third world monkey you see today.

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