Internet TV vs regular TV?
m...@privacy.net
computer via TV signal input..... how possible is it to
get TV shows right OFF the Internet period thereby
bypassing the normal channels for TV anyway?
Seerialmom
So far there isn't a true always on any channel/any time internet TV
source (someone supposedly started something like that a few years
back and the big networks put the brakes on it). And even though it's
far from perfect, most big networks do show their best shows online.
ABC, NBC and Fox have decent video feeds; CBS sucks bigtime (they used
to be ok...something has happened and apparently it's next to
impossible to see the video...but you sure can see the frickin'
commercials). The trade off is the size of the picture for the
convenience of very little interference by commercials.
rick++
There's a grey-market of recorded TV shows mainly
in colleges where the Internet is 20 times faster than
anything you can get at home. Theres' also some clever
software called BitTorrent to make this happen faster.
Instead of a single server passing the software to all
houses, BitTorrent sets up a web where each computer
takes turns sharing data chunks with other computers,
like buckets on a fire line.
m...@privacy.net
>So far there isn't a true always on any channel/any time internet TV
>source (someone supposedly started something like that a few years
>back and the big networks put the brakes on it). And even though it's
>far from perfect, most big networks do show their best shows online.
>ABC, NBC and Fox have decent video feeds; CBS sucks bigtime (they used
>to be ok...something has happened and apparently it's next to
>impossible to see the video...but you sure can see the frickin'
>commercials). The trade off is the size of the picture for the
>convenience of very little interference by commercials.
OK
On the size of the picture..... wouldn't having a BIG
LCD monitor such as 24" LCD unit help with that?
Rod Speed
Depends on what you want to watch. The popular fiction is fine,
other stuff like docos is much harder to find. Movies, effortless.
Some of the current affairs type stuff is much harder to find.
Rod Speed
Nope, not when they choose to have only a small low res picture available.
Its pathetic compared with HD and SD transmissions.
m...@privacy.net
Unemployed..so can only afford either a new computer or
an LCD TV
And since I'm full time college student was hoping the
new PC could "be" a TV as well by getting programming
form Internet feed. No?
Shawn Hirn
wrote:
Just buy a TV card for your computer. Most cards can accept a TV signal
from an antenna or a paid service (cable, satellite, FIOS). Stop by your
favorite computer store to see what's available.
Rod Speed
The result is nothing like TV. You may not care tho if you dont watch much TV.
Leroy
Extremely easy. And legal if you avoid the 'P2P' accesses.
Here's a meta index of iptv stuff:
Also, for regular over the air TV, a TV tuner card for your
PC works well. Can be combined with your graphics card
like this:
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9800/aiw9800pro/index.html
Joost.com is a free site with lots of content.
In the US, you can view network shows from the network's
website. At your leisure, after they've originally been
telecast.
If it's a choice twixt TV and PC, choose PC, you can always
use it as above.
Leroy
a few more links. BTW, you do realize that you
need highspeed internet, not dial-up?
http://tvunderground.org.ru/
http://www.freetvsearch.com
http://www.craftytv.com
http://www.tvlinkvault.com
http://www.freetvsearch.com/
http://www.surfthechannel.com/
http://www.ssupload.com/
http://www.videolemon.com
http://movies.nabolister.com
http://flickpeek.com
http://www.findtvlinks.com/
http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/90965/Watch_Any
http://www.joost.com/
http://www.ovguide.com/
http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/simpsons.php
http://www15.alluc.org/alluc/
http://www.live-online-tv.com/
http://www.findago.com/series/
http://online-television.tv/
http://www.craftytv.com/
http://beeline.tv/
http://www.movies-on-demand.tv/
http://www.peekvid.com/
http://aknof.blogspot.com/2007/01/free-goodies-for
http://quicksilverscreen.com/
http://Alloftv.net
http://joox.net
http://quicksilverscreen.com/ipb/
http://www.videolemon.com
http://movies.nabolister.com
http://flickpeek.com
http://showstash.com
http://teevee4me.com
http://wheeya.com
http://emuduel.com
http://www.findago.com/series/
m...@privacy.net
>> And since I'm full time college student was hoping the
>> new PC could "be" a TV as well by getting programming
>> form Internet feed. No?
>
>The result is nothing like TV. You may not care tho if you dont watch much TV.
Understood..... but have NOTHING now.... no TV or
Internet at home...so anything will be better
m...@privacy.net
>> Question...rather than viewing TV shows on your
>> computer via TV signal input..... how possible is it to
>> get TV shows right OFF the Internet period thereby
>> bypassing the normal channels for TV anyway?
>
>Just buy a TV card for your computer. Most cards can accept a TV signal
>from an antenna or a paid service (cable, satellite, FIOS). Stop by your
>favorite computer store to see what's available.
Yep could do that as well..... and might
But was just curious what kind of 'programming" .....
if any..... could come straight form the Net thereby
bypassing off air reception and TV card hardware.
Sounds possible but limited in quantity and quality
m...@privacy.net
>> Question...rather than viewing TV shows on your
>> computer via TV signal input..... how possible is it to
>> get TV shows right OFF the Internet period thereby
>> bypassing the normal channels for TV anyway?
>
>Extremely easy. And legal if you avoid the 'P2P' accesses.
>
>Here's a meta index of iptv stuff:
>
>http://www.ovguide.com/
Interesting thanks!
Question.... if I bought say a big 22" or 24" inch
monitor..... would that make watching IPTV any easier
form a distance such as setting on a couch 8 feet away?
Also.... anyway to get rid of the ads around the video
and make the image full screen?
m...@privacy.net
>a few more links. BTW, you do realize that you
>need highspeed internet, not dial-up?
yes I realize
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
I'd go for one of the USB digital TV tuners in your situation myself.
I prefer to do that multichannel and record TV to the hard drive
so I can watch it whenever I like. I watch almost nothing live now.
That approach needs some serious hard drive space tho.
Leroy
> "Leroy" <leroy@ addy.invalid> wrote:
>> Extremely easy. And legal if you avoid the 'P2P' accesses.
>>
>> Here's a meta index of iptv stuff:
>> http://www.ovguide.com/
>
> monitor..... would that make watching IPTV any easier
> form a distance such as setting on a couch 8 feet away?
certainly. I use a 24 inch monitor seven feet away and often
shrink the tv 'window' because it's too big.
>
> Also.... anyway to get rid of the ads around the video
> and make the image full screen? Use FireFox
browser with the Ad Block Plus extension to eliminate
most ads.
On many videos, double click the image to increase the
size. Sign up at joost.com and get their player. gives
excellent full screen video http://joost.com And tons
of quality free content.
Some other sites with good full screen are hulu.com,
veoh.com, abc.com, and Fox, http://www.fox.com/fod/
the divX format show at stage6.com are full screen, too.
IMO, the best of both worlds for your new PC is to use
for graphics a card with built in TV/FM tuner. Use the
tuner for local OTA TV and FM. Use the internet to
get shows and movies *on demand*. The tuner
feature of a graphics card doesn't add much to the cost
and is well worth while.
Leroy
Seerialmom
Not necessarily. Sometimes the speed and method of delivery degrades
the picture so that it looks better "small". Of course if you have a
$600 video card it might look fine on a bigger LCD ;). And if you
have a $600 video card...why are you in the frugal-living newsgroup?
heheh
Carl Swanson
only use it when the events are not on tv.
Leroy
> $600 video card it might look fine on a bigger LCD ;). And if you
> have a $600 video card...why are you in the frugal-living newsgroup?
> heheh
It seems prices have dropped a bit <g>
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Subcategory.asp?Subcategory=47
m...@privacy.net
>IMO, the best of both worlds for your new PC is to use
>for graphics a card with built in TV/FM tuner. Use the
>tuner for local OTA TV and FM. Use the internet to
>get shows and movies *on demand*. The tuner
>feature of a graphics card doesn't add much to the cost
>and is well worth while.
OK thanks
Sounds like a plan.
I read somewhere recently.... PC Mag I think..... that
in near future ALL TV will come over the Internet.....
and we will look back at dedicated cable TV systems,
etc in laughing way.
m...@privacy.net
>certainly. I use a 24 inch monitor seven feet away and often
>shrink the tv 'window' because it's too big.
Really?!
Seven feet away and using the full 24 inches seems too
big? How so?
Rod Speed
> "Leroy" <leroy@ addy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> IMO, the best of both worlds for your new PC is to use
>> for graphics a card with built in TV/FM tuner. Use the
>> tuner for local OTA TV and FM. Use the internet to
>> get shows and movies *on demand*. The tuner
>> feature of a graphics card doesn't add much to the cost
>> and is well worth while.
>
> OK thanks
>
> Sounds like a plan.
>
> I read somewhere recently.... PC Mag I think..... that
> in near future ALL TV will come over the Internet.....
Bet that ends up as silly as the claim that we will all
end up zooming around in helicopters instead of cars.
> and we will look back at dedicated cable TV systems, etc in laughing way.
Bet it doesnt happen like that any decade soon.
Bob F
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Get a TV tuner card and the right software (often included) and you can use your
computer as a PVR (personal video recorder)
Dennis
Another option that I have not seen mentioned: A $9/mo NetFlix
subscription gets you unlimited DVDs by mail, (one out at a time -- I
can usually turn around two per week), plus unlimited online viewing.
Currently their online catalog is somewhat limited (at least compared
to their DVD catalog), but it may improve. Both include TV series as
well as movies.
The quality of the online viewing with my DSL connection is
acceptable, but not up to broadcast level.
Dennis (evil)
--
The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.
m...@privacy.net
>Another option that I have not seen mentioned: A $9/mo NetFlix
>subscription gets you unlimited DVDs by mail, (one out at a time -- I
>can usually turn around two per week), plus unlimited online viewing.
>Currently their online catalog is somewhat limited (at least compared
>to their DVD catalog), but it may improve. Both include TV series as
>well as movies.
>
>The quality of the online viewing with my DSL connection is
>acceptable, but not up to broadcast level.
Interesting..... thanks!
Bob F
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I'm sure those with a max 28.8 kbaud internet connection will appreciate that.
Terry Terry
> Another option that I have not seen mentioned: A $9/mo NetFlix
> subscription gets you unlimited DVDs by mail, (one out at a time -- I
> can usually turn around two per week), plus unlimited online viewing.
> Currently their online catalog is somewhat limited (at least compared
> to their DVD catalog), but it may improve. Both include TV series as
> well as movies.
>
> The quality of the online viewing with my DSL connection is
> acceptable, but not up to broadcast level.
>
The 9buck a month is DVDs you can watch in a player. Right? You
don't have to have broadband for this? We have dialup
Anthony Matonak
> <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> in near future ALL TV will come over the Internet.....
>
Maybe, if the government was forward looking, they would
have mandated and financed high speed internet to every
house much like they had electricity installed everywhere.
http://www.muniwireless.com/article/articleview/5011
Anthony
George Grapman
The DVDs are seen on your player. The movies are an added freebie but
you will need a high speed connection to view them.
Zuke
I saw a story where Time Warner is beginning to charge
on the amount being downloaded. The official reason is that a small
percentage of people, maybe 5%, are responsible for 50% of the
downloads. To me though, they see the future coming when everybody
downloads massive amount of content from the web and are setting up a
huge income stream. I find it interesting that they cannot seem to
set up a similiar "pay as you go" scheme for TV. 80 channals and
the best thing to watch is the shopping channel.