Canned Mackerel
PaPaPeng
This is neat. I just bought a 115gm can of Mackerel, the flat can with
a pull tab to open it. Included inside is a plastic fork so that I
can eat from the can without further ado. Its a really brilliant
idea. The can is packed inside a cardboard box labelled CanAsia of
Thailand. Costs CDN1.59 from the Chinese grocery shop. I rarely
snack between meals and canned fish is a snack I like, not too
filling, is delicious, nutiritious, easy to digest and no preparation
needed.
Al Bundy
First let me thank you for not pasting 15 paragraphs unrelated to this
group.
I buy the 425g can of mackerel from Chile for 99¢. It sometimes goes
for as little as 79¢.
I maintain a few of those reusable metal forks.
I have not eaten "snacks" since I as 13 years old.
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Cool, I wouldn't have thought mackerel as a snack. Wife just bought some
seaweed paper laced with wasabi as snack. Careful, it will clear sinus,
flush tear ducts and blow your brain at the same time - good to have during
boring company meetings.
Dennis
I'd bring up the hazards of mercury, but I guess that ship has sailed.
Dennis (evil)
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Anthony Matonak
...
> I'd bring up the hazards of mercury, but I guess that ship has sailed.
Mercury is like lead... If it was bad for you they wouldn't put it in
so many things. :)
Anthony
Logan Shaw
> This is neat. I just bought a 115gm can of Mackerel, the flat can with
> a pull tab to open it. Included inside is a plastic fork so that I
> can eat from the can without further ado. Its a really brilliant
> idea.
How does the plastic fork not end up with fish juices and oil all over it?
Is there a barrier between it and the fish? Or do you just have to wipe
off the fork before using it?
- Logan
PaPaPeng
Its packed outside the can but inside the cardboard box. Now that you
raised the point I didn't quite like the idea of the cardboard box as
it is unecessary landfill material. I think it will be a better idea
to incorporate a shallow spoon (with short fork tips) as part of the
pull tab for all canned non liquid food that can be eaten out of the
can..
To Al. Yes CDN1.59 is a bit overpriced for 115 gm of canned fish. A
regular 425 gm can of sardines form China is only CDN 1.29. I just
had to check out the CanAsia mackerel (love mackerel) as the picture
on the box looked so appetizing and bought one can of each in oil and
another in tomato sauce. The CanAsia fish is indeed more delicious,
cooked just right with the flesh just firm, slightly chewey, smooth
like fresh fish, and does really taste better. The regular sardines
turn powdery in the mouth, has a flat (overboiled) and somewhat fishy
taste that I disguise with chilisauce and chopped onions. The
Mackerel as a boneless steak I'd eat 'as is' to savor the flavor.
On fish, Chinatown grocery shops have a good selection of fresh frozen
fish, fish steaks and fillets you'll never fine in a western grocery
store. They are still pricey and, for me, too much work to prepare
and flavor to do them justice. My favorite in that section is whole
frozen smelts. CDN 2.09 for a 340 gm pack (good for 4 to 5 single
servings, real frugal). I nip off the head and throw in the rest
complete with fins, tail and stomach contents into the soup. The fins
are soft enough to swallow without problem. Its the stomach contents
that's the best part. It has a tangy, minty taste that goes well with
the fish. Smelts are gill feeders and the stomach contents are
planton. These are the 3 inch fish. The larger smelts (5 to 6 inches
whole, 4 inch gutted and headless ) go for CDN 2.99 for 340 gms.
Without the planton to me they don't taste as good.
The Real Bev
> <lshaw-...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> How does the plastic fork not end up with fish juices and oil all
>> over it? Is there a barrier between it and the fish? Or do you
>> just have to wipe off the fork before using it?
Perhaps a napkin is included. Oh, wait...
> Its packed outside the can but inside the cardboard box. Now that
> you raised the point I didn't quite like the idea of the cardboard
> box as it is unecessary landfill material. I think it will be a
> better idea to incorporate a shallow spoon (with short fork tips)
The technical term for this implement is "spork". Serious backpackers
get titanium sporks.
> as part of the pull tab for all canned non liquid food that can be
> eaten out of the can..
The problem there is contamination from the outside.
> I just had to check out the CanAsia mackerel (love mackerel) as the
> picture on the box looked so appetizing and bought one can of each in
> oil and another in tomato sauce.
I've never understood people who think fish is edible.
> On fish, Chinatown grocery shops have a good selection of fresh
> frozen fish, fish steaks and fillets you'll never fine in a western
> grocery store.
Lots of things like that. Pork bungs, for instance. I really like the
fact that there are a lot of Asian markets around here. Unfortunately,
their bok choy contains no less sand than the stuff from ordinary markets.
> Smelts are gill feeders and the stomach contents are planton. These
> are the 3 inch fish. The larger smelts (5 to 6 inches whole, 4 inch
> gutted and headless ) go for CDN 2.99 for 340 gms. Without the
> planton to me they don't taste as good.
This is information that will stay with me LOTS longer than I'd like.
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PaPaPeng
<bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>This is information that will stay with me LOTS longer than I'd like.
What about the one about the fish bones being the most delicious part
of canned fish? Everyone I know agrees with this.
The Real Bev
> <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This is information that will stay with me LOTS longer than I'd like.
>
> What about the one about the fish bones being the most delicious part
> of canned fish? Everyone I know agrees with this.
Bones are different from guts and their contents. A friend used to buy
whole chickens (minus feathers, of course) and cook them in a pressure
cooker until the bones were soft. Then he put the chix through a
blender. Dog food, not soup. Dog seemed to like it.
A Chinese friend finally found something she wouldn't eat -- the green
crud in the top shell of a crab. She tried it, though.
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PaPaPeng
<bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>A Chinese friend finally found something she wouldn't eat -- the green
>crud in the top shell of a crab. She tried it, though.
That's the green gland in marine crustaceans. It is the all in one
digestive juices excretory organ. In crabs it is of neglible size.
In lobsters it is prominent. That's one reason I like a boiled live
lobster fest with white guys. They don't touch the lobster heads. I
grab them all as they are delicious. Unfortunately lobsters (and
crabs) have a high cholesterol content and I should avoid them.
Fortunately lobster fests are prettry rare these days as I don't visit
the coast that often.
The green stuff under the crab shell is probably unripe roe. The
ripened roe, yellow or bright orange, is also delicious.
The Real Bev
> <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A Chinese friend finally found something she wouldn't eat -- the
>> green crud in the top shell of a crab. She tried it, though.
>
> That's the green gland in marine crustaceans. It is the all in one
> digestive juices excretory organ.
So it's full of crab shit, right?
> In crabs it is of neglible size. In lobsters it is prominent. That's
> one reason I like a boiled live lobster fest with white guys. They
> don't touch the lobster heads. I grab them all as they are
> delicious.
Lobster is rubbery and krab (surimi) is better than real crab. I do
like shrimp and scallops, though, and have forced myself to eat shrimp
with the heads -- and eyes -- still on. I ate a snail once too. I also
forced myself to kill a grasshopper by squeezing it in my fingers,
throwing it to the ground and stomping it. Yelling YUK YUK YUK YUK...
during the process helps a lot, but probably wouldn't go over well in a
restaurant.
> Unfortunately lobsters (and crabs) have a high cholesterol content
> and I should avoid them. Fortunately lobster fests are prettry rare
> these days as I don't visit the coast that often.
I also ate cooked baby octopi, the ones that look like little flowers
with curly petals. I still feel bad about that. People shouldn't eat
baby anythings.
> The green stuff under the crab shell is probably unripe roe. The
> ripened roe, yellow or bright orange, is also delicious.
There's a reason that the Chinese will probably take over the world...
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Nope, they've stopped them breeding like rabbits, so they wont be taking over anything now.
PaPaPeng
<bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's the green gland in marine crustaceans. It is the all in one
>> digestive juices excretory organ.
>
>So it's full of crab shit, right?
Its a gland like the liver. Its not a gut.
>
>I also ate cooked baby octopi, the ones that look like little flowers
>with curly petals. I still feel bad about that. People shouldn't eat
>baby anythings.
Ditto. I would love to keep live baby octopi as aquarium pets. Same
with crayfish. I can't bring myself to eat either.
>
>
>There's a reason that the Chinese will probably take over the world...
One sure can't starve them out..
>
>--
>Cheers, Bev
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Nope, they've stopped them breeding like rabbits, so they wont be taking over anything now.
Uhuh. Notice the increase in Chinese numbers in Ozzieland?
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> The Real Bev <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> There's a reason that the Chinese will probably take over the world...
>> Nope, they've stopped them breeding like rabbits,
>> so they wont be taking over anything now.
> Uhuh. Notice the increase in Chinese numbers in Ozzieland?
Yep, but they wont be taking over here either, those that
do end up here have the usual small number of kids, 1.x etc.
The 'problem' is even worse in places like Singapore, a hell of
a lot of them there dont have any kids at all, and Lee Quan Yew
tried to get them to do something about that and they never did.
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> There's a reason that the Chinese will probably take over the world...
>
>>> Nope, they've stopped them breeding like rabbits,
>>> so they wont be taking over anything now.
>
>> Uhuh. Notice the increase in Chinese numbers in Ozzieland?
>
>Yep, but they wont be taking over here either, those that
>do end up here have the usual small number of kids, 1.x etc.
>
Notice the kids in the Universities and colleges? The proportion of
them in the quota faculties ie the Professions, hard sciences and
technologies? They will be the ones who will wield real power while
you regular guys swig beer and surf. There'll be a lot more of them
than there will be jews. And look what <2 per cent of jews did to the
US. One difference and a mitigating factor. Chinese are not into
victimhood and media manipulation.
>The 'problem' is even worse in places like Singapore, a hell of
>a lot of them there dont have any kids at all, and Lee Quan Yew
>tried to get them to do something about that and they never did.
>
In Singapore, until just 10 years ago, there was heavy pressure to
have one child per family. The method was to hit them in the wallet.
It was very expensive to raise a kid and the second kid invoked
penalties such as no choice of schools the kid could go to. A few
weeks ago a father was found guilty of fraud by faking residency in a
district with the (good reputation) school he wanted his daughter to
be enrolled in.
Then the government found they needed local born manpower and reversed
their policy but only slightly. Those with education (eg. university)
could have second and third child. By then its kind of late to
reverse the trend not to have any or to have only one kid. The trendy
lifestyle reports from rich western countries had stressed small
families over poor large ones, feminism, careers, etc. such that child
bearing and family values are not chic. A reversal? The generation
under 40 are now into having more than one kid though.
In China the very strict one child per family laws over a 40 year span
should have realised a reduction in population already. Yet the
planners are only hopeful that the population will stabilize at 1.5
billions by 2035 and maybe see a slow decine thereafter. To give an
idea of of the problem even at 1 per cent population growth today this
already results in 13 million new mouths a year to feed, house,
educate and to create employment for. Don't anyone have any illusions
about democracy and human rights, the encouragement by western
liberals to Chinese to have affluent lifestyles of the West, override
the need for China's to keep her population under control. A western
consumer lifestyle for the Chinese is enough an enviromental disaster
for the whole world.
PaPaPeng
>In China
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:48:40 -0000, "AJ" <info[a]jensvoll.dk> wrote:
>I discovered China earlier this year. Finally I have made my photo report.
>You can see some of what I saw on www.jensvoll.dk/galleri
>
>Best regards, Arnt J.
>
Thanks for the great collection. Brings back many memories. Notice
how well fed and healthy the kids are - bright eyes, clear skin, not
dressed in rags. Confident and very ready to ham it up for the camera
wielded by a stranger.
PaPaPeng
Another observation. Notice how free from litter every place is
including the river and waterways. There is this civic drive to clean
up the whole country, especially the cities, in preparation for the
hugh influx of foreign visitors for the Beijing Olympics.
news.verizon.net
Yea, what's the sodium content in that?
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> There's a reason that the Chinese will probably take over the world...
>>>> Nope, they've stopped them breeding like rabbits,
>>>> so they wont be taking over anything now.
>>> Uhuh. Notice the increase in Chinese numbers in Ozzieland?
>> Yep, but they wont be taking over here either, those that
>> do end up here have the usual small number of kids, 1.x etc.
> Notice the kids in the Universities and colleges?
Yep, the chinese dont dominate those.
> The proportion of them in the quota faculties
> ie the Professions, hard sciences and technologies?
Those dont take over the world.
> They will be the ones who will wield real power
Nope, they dont have real power here.
> while you regular guys swig beer and surf.
We do a lot more than just that.
And a hell of a lot of the chinese do a lot more than
just the professions, hard sciences and technologies,
hordes of them in retail shop keeping and drug trafficing.
In fact there are bugger all chinese involved in
hard sciences and technologies here and those
who are are never where the real power is either.
> There'll be a lot more of them than there will be jews.
Sure, but we have never had many jews at all with real power.
> And look what <2 per cent of jews did to the US.
And didnt manage to do anywhere else much.
> One difference and a mitigating factor. Chinese
> are not into victimhood and media manipulation.
Sure, but that doesnt give them any real
power at all, let alone take over the world.
They chinese have always had one hell of a capacity for
rubbing the natives up the wrong way and ending up with
a very bad outcome for themselves, most obviously with
Indonesia and Malaysia, and right thruout SE Asia.
Thats one reason why we have a considerable number of chinese
here, the treatment they get in places like Malaysia and Indonesia.
>> The 'problem' is even worse in places like Singapore, a hell of
>> a lot of them there dont have any kids at all, and Lee Quan Yew
>> tried to get them to do something about that and they never did.
> In Singapore, until just 10 years ago, there was
> heavy pressure to have one child per family.
And when Lee Quan Yew eventually came to his sense
on that, he hasnt managed to get people to do anything
much about having more kids now, essentially because
the low number of kids and the failure to marry was due
to economic reasons that are universal right thruout the
modern first world and developed countrys.
> The method was to hit them in the wallet. It was very
> expensive to raise a kid and the second kid invoked
> penalties such as no choice of schools the kid could
> go to. A few weeks ago a father was found guilty of
> fraud by faking residency in a district with the (good
> reputation) school he wanted his daughter to be enrolled in.
Irrelevant to why the number of kids is still low NOW.
And its just as true of HongKong where there never was a one child policy.
> Then the government found they needed local born manpower
> and reversed their policy but only slightly. Those with education
> (eg. university) could have second and third child. By then its kind
> of late to reverse the trend not to have any or to have only one kid.
Its got nothing to do with govt policy as should be obvious from
the HongKong result and the result we get here with our chinese.
> The trendy lifestyle reports from rich western countries had
> stressed small families over poor large ones, feminism, careers,
> etc. such that child bearing and family values are not chic.
Its got nothing to do with chic, everything to do with the very
large numbers of working married women and the difficulty of
having kids when both the parents work full time out of the home.
> A reversal? The generation under 40 are
> now into having more than one kid though.
And its nothing like even an average of more than 2.
> In China the very strict one child per family laws over a 40 year
> span should have realised a reduction in population already.
Nope. Essentially because of the considerable exceptions to those laws.
> Yet the planners are only hopeful that the population will stabilize
> at 1.5 billions by 2035 and maybe see a slow decine thereafter.
> To give an idea of of the problem even at 1 per cent population
> growth today this already results in 13 million new mouths a year
> to feed, house, educate and to create employment for. Don't
> anyone have any illusions about democracy and human rights, the
> encouragement by western liberals to Chinese to have affluent
> lifestyles of the West, override the need for China's to keep her
> population under control. A western consumer lifestyle for the
> Chinese is enough an enviromental disaster for the whole world.
Nope, we survived the west doing it fine.
And whatever some may desire, its going to happen anyway.
PaPaPeng
I am on a low salt diet too. It didn't taste salty. The can of fish
in light soy oil I threw away earlier. According to the label for the
fish in tomato sauce
Fat lipids 9 g 114%
Saturated Trans 3.5 g 13%
Cholesterol 20 mg 7%
Sodium 160 mg 7%
Vitamin A 4%
Vitamin C 0%
Carbohydrate 1%
Fiber 0%
Sugar 2 g
Protein 8 g
Calcium 0%
Iron 2%
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They will be the ones who will wield real power
>
>Nope, they dont have real power here.
Take a drive through your new single family housing developments and
observe the ethnic make up. Visit your universities. Also look up
the faculty academic staff list. Form your own conclusions. I won't
say any more on this subject as it will come across as gloating.
Vic Smith
Since you've already come across as racist, what's the big deal about
gloating?
--Vic
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> PaPaPeng <PaPa...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> There's a reason that the Chinese will probably take over the world...
>>>>>> Nope, they've stopped them breeding like rabbits,
>>>>>> so they wont be taking over anything now.
>>>>> Uhuh. Notice the increase in Chinese numbers in Ozzieland?
>>>> Yep, but they wont be taking over here either, those that
>>>> do end up here have the usual small number of kids, 1.x etc.
>>> Notice the kids in the Universities and colleges?
>> Yep, the chinese dont dominate those.
>>> The proportion of them in the quota faculties
We dont have quota facultys here.
>>> ie the Professions, hard sciences and technologies?
>> Those dont take over the world.
>>> They will be the ones who will wield real power
>> Nope, they dont have real power here.
> Take a drive through your new single family housing
> developments and observe the ethnic make up.
I've been doing that for over half a century now.
They arent dominated by the chinese here.
> Visit your universities. Also look up the faculty
> academic staff list. Form your own conclusions.
I did, the chinese arent over represented in those places here.
And none of those are where the real power is here.
> I won't say any more on this subject as it will come across as gloating.
Just more of your ignorance of what happens here, actually.
We do have quite a few chinese here who have mostly chosen to leave
the countrys they came from in SE Asia when they have gotten the result
they deserved in the countrys they came from, and hordes from HongKong
who decided that things are much better here than in HongKong, but none
of them are in any position of real power here.
They are much more useful immigrants than many we have been stupid
enough to accept in the past, particularly the dregs of england, and the
absolute dregs from southern europe and places like lebanon, but that
hasnt got them any real power here and they certainly wont be taking
over the world either, essentially because they have one hell of a
capacity for getting right up the noses of the countrys they migrate to.
Gene S. Berkowitz
says...
> Lobster is rubbery and krab (surimi) is better than real crab.
No, over-cooked lobster is rubbery. The common name for the green stuff
is "tomale".
--Gene
Rod Speed
Bet you cant list even a single chinese that has any real power in this country.
Or in Canada or America or england either.
PaPaPeng
Uhuh. We don't claim to be superior or have a god given right to
anything. We earn it the old fashioned way. Work hard and excell
where it counts. And pay the fair price for everything. Pro sports
and Hollywood fluff we concede we won't equal you any time soon.
Everything else is up for grabs.
Rod Speed
> Vic Smith <thismaila...@comcast.net> wrote
>> PaPaPeng <PaPa...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> They will be the ones who will wield real power
>>>> Nope, they dont have real power here.
>>> Take a drive through your new single family housing developments
>>> and observe the ethnic make up. Visit your universities. Also look
>>> up the faculty academic staff list. Form your own conclusions. I
>>> won't say any more on this subject as it will come across as gloating.
>> Since you've already come across as racist, what's the big deal about gloating?
> Uhuh. We don't claim to be superior or have a god given right to
> anything. We earn it the old fashioned way. Work hard and excell
> where it counts. And pay the fair price for everything. Pro sports
> and Hollywood fluff we concede we won't equal you any time soon.
> Everything else is up for grabs.
He's spot on about coming across as a racist.
The most you can really say is that the chinese do do better
than some other groups at that stuff early in your last para, but
its silly to claim that its anything like universal with all chinese.
We've also seen one hell of a capacity to flout the law,
particularly with hard drug trafficing and protection rackets.
And the rather bizarre outcome where the obnoxious brats of rich
chinese who have been kicked out of the schools back in china show
up here without their parents to attend school here, in schools that are
stupid enough to accept them here and are completely uncontrollable.
Those brats wont be achieving a damned thing in university, tho they
will now be accepted since we are happy to accept full fee paying
foreign students and to gouge their parents for those fees.
And everything else isnt up for grabs either, you see very
few chinese interested in politics in western countrys, and
even less get anywhere in politics in western countrys.
You dont see many at all get involved in the law either.
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> They will be the ones who will wield real power
>
>>>>> Nope, they dont have real power here.
>
>>>> Take a drive through your new single family housing developments
>>>> and observe the ethnic make up. Visit your universities. Also look
>>>> up the faculty academic staff list. Form your own conclusions. I
>>>> won't say any more on this subject as it will come across as gloating.
>
>>> Since you've already come across as racist, what's the big deal about gloating?
>
>> Uhuh. We don't claim to be superior or have a god given right to
>> anything. We earn it the old fashioned way. Work hard and excell
>> where it counts. And pay the fair price for everything. Pro sports
>> and Hollywood fluff we concede we won't equal you any time soon.
>> Everything else is up for grabs.
>
>He's spot on about coming across as a racist.
Its only a matter of time when you'd come up with your line. Well no
ethnic group have all the angels or all the devils. The point is that
we are as good as anyone else whether in angels or in devils, and
often better. Between yourself, Vic and others of your kind the basic
assumption is that your kind have the god given right to lord it over
people of a different color. Go reread your earlier posts about how
obedient and submissive people of color should be to meet your
approval.
>
>The most you can really say is that the chinese do do better
>than some other groups at that stuff early in your last para, but
>its silly to claim that its anything like universal with all chinese.
Yeah I noticed. You tried so hard to distinguish between mainland
Chinese and overseas Chinese as people of quite different qualities.
Got news for you. All Chinese are alike. They already look the same.
>
>We've also seen one hell of a capacity to flout the law,
>particularly with hard drug trafficing and protection rackets.
Beats regime changing and stealing the resources of other countries.
Criminal types get their comeuppance eventually. There has never been
a case of criminal gangs exercising influence or power outside their
circles. They make good newscopy but I bet you never met one in
person or someone who did.
>
>And the rather bizarre outcome where the obnoxious brats of rich
>chinese who have been kicked out of the schools back in china show
>up here without their parents to attend school here, in schools that are
>stupid enough to accept them here and are completely uncontrollable.
>Those brats wont be achieving a damned thing in university, tho they
>will now be accepted since we are happy to accept full fee paying
>foreign students and to gouge their parents for those fees.
Yep. We got lots of those too. Like you said your school
administrators prefer money over good sense. Don't know where this
particular argument is going but the solution had always been in your
hands.
>
>And everything else isnt up for grabs either, you see very
>few chinese interested in politics in western countrys, and
>even less get anywhere in politics in western countrys.
>
>You dont see many at all get involved in the law either.
Politicians come and go. The power behind the throne remains. When
most of the jobs requiring education and high tech are not held by you
because your kids never made it into those university spots you are
not even in the game any more. Raise a kid to college age and
you'll know the feeling.
Chinese consider the law courts system and lawyers as a waste of time
and money. Those who go into law prefer to practice corporate law,
contract law and property law. Few go into criminal law and dramatic
court appearances.
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I am African-American. We are a sentimental people in the main and we
tend to track our own. We are aware of others of colour who cross our
spaces. We look around asking: "How did she/he come to be here/there?
Is his/her story extraordinary, coincidental or totally banal?"
(....more)
Vic Smith
> Between yourself, Vic and others of your kind
I take that to mean non-Chinese. No surprise.
--Vic
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> PaPaPeng <PaPa...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Vic Smith <thismaila...@comcast.net> wrote
>>>> PaPaPeng <PaPa...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> They will be the ones who will wield real power
>>>>>> Nope, they dont have real power here.
>>>>> Take a drive through your new single family housing
>>>>> developments and observe the ethnic make up. Visit
>>>>> your universities. Also look up the faculty academic
>>>>> staff list. Form your own conclusions. I won't say any
>>>>> more on this subject as it will come across as gloating.
>>>> Since you've already come across as racist,
>>>> what's the big deal about gloating?
>>> Uhuh. We don't claim to be superior or have a god given right
>>> to anything. We earn it the old fashioned way. Work hard
>>> and excell where it counts. And pay the fair price for everything.
>>> Pro sports and Hollywood fluff we concede we won't equal
>>> you any time soon. Everything else is up for grabs.
>> He's spot on about coming across as a racist.
> Its only a matter of time when you'd come up with your line.
It isnt my line, its clearly Vic's line.
> Well no ethnic group have all the angels or all the devils. The point is that we
> are as good as anyone else whether in angels or in devils, and often better.
And that last is where you come across as a rascist, even if its true.
> Between yourself, Vic and others of your kind the basic assumption is that
> your kind have the god given right to lord it over people of a different color.
Thats just you projecting.
> Go reread your earlier posts about how obedient and
> submissive people of color should be to meet your approval.
I have never ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like
that and have never ever said anything about 'people of color' either.
I in fact said that chinese immigrants to this country have been
a lot better value for us than the dregs of england ever were.
>> The most you can really say is that the chinese do do better
>> than some other groups at that stuff early in your last para, but
>> its silly to claim that its anything like universal with all chinese.
> Yeah I noticed. You tried so hard to distinguish between mainland
> Chinese and overseas Chinese as people of quite different qualities.
No I didnt.
> Got news for you. All Chinese are alike.
No they arent. By definition the recent chinese emigrants have self selected
a quite different group than those who chose to stay behind in china.
Thats true of all emigrants, not just the chinese.
> They already look the same.
We arent discussing looks.
>> We've also seen one hell of a capacity to flout the law,
>> particularly with hard drug trafficing and protection rackets.
> Beats regime changing and stealing the resources of other countries.
My country has never ever done anything like that.
> Criminal types get their comeuppance eventually.
Irrelevant to whether its an important consideration when
deciding who to accept as immigrants to your country.
> There has never been a case of criminal gangs
> exercising influence or power outside their circles.
Have a look at the Victor Chang case some time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Chang
> They make good newscopy but I bet you never met one in person or someone who did.
You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.
Who you may or may not have met in spades.
>> And the rather bizarre outcome where the obnoxious brats of rich
>> chinese who have been kicked out of the schools back in china show
>> up here without their parents to attend school here, in schools that are
>> stupid enough to accept them here and are completely uncontrollable.
>> Those brats wont be achieving a damned thing in university, tho they will
>> now be accepted since we are happy to accept full fee paying foreign
>> students and to gouge their parents for those fees.
> Yep. We got lots of those too. Like you said your
> school administrators prefer money over good sense.
That is just ONE school thats actually stupid enough to do that.
> Don't know where this particular argument is going
Its rubbing your nose in the fact that your silly claims about chinese are just that.
> but the solution had always been in your hands.
Irrelevant to your silly claims about the chinese.
>> And everything else isnt up for grabs either, you see very
>> few chinese interested in politics in western countrys, and
>> even less get anywhere in politics in western countrys.
>> You dont see many at all get involved in the law either.
> Politicians come and go. The power behind the throne remains.
There is no throne anymore. And the chinese are never the power
behind the scenes in any western country for various reasons.
They arent even in places like Malaysia or Indonesia or Thailand either.
> When most of the jobs requiring education and high tech are not held by you
Corse they are.
> because your kids never made it into those university spots
Corse they do.
> you are not even in the game any more.
How odd that there are almost no chinese involved in our mining industry,
which just happens to produce a positive balance of trade in OUR favour
with both china and japan, something neither canada or america can manage.
> Raise a kid to college age and you'll know the feeling.
Nope.
> Chinese consider the law courts system and lawyers as a
> waste of time and money. Those who go into law prefer
> to practice corporate law, contract law and property law.
> Few go into criminal law and dramatic court appearances.
I didnt say anything about the criminal law.
> =======================
> Do read this story about racial discriminization and high politics.
Irrelevant to you coming across as a racist as Vic says.
> She's the most powerful black woman in the world.
No she isnt.
> Why can't I stand the sight of her?
Presumably you not only come across as a racist, you are one as well.
> Candace Allen has spent her whole life cheering on fellow
> African-Americans who have battled their way to the top. Yet the
> extraordinary career of Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of
> state, fills her only with revulsion and anger. Here she explains why
> Wednesday December 5, 2007
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2222067,00.html
> The Guardian
> I am African-American. We are a sentimental people in the main and we
> tend to track our own. We are aware of others of colour who cross our
> spaces. We look around asking: "How did she/he come to be here/there?
> Is his/her story extraordinary, coincidental or totally banal?"
> (....more)
What has this to do with your silly claims about chinese ?
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> you are not even in the game any more.
>
>How odd that there are almost no chinese involved in our mining industry,
>which just happens to produce a positive balance of trade in OUR favour
>with both china and japan, something neither canada or america can manage.
Patience Rod, patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. Oil and gas has
priority. The game is global in which Ozzieland is a side show.
There is no grand scheme from the evil empire to take over the world.
They aren't that smart. But much will happen anyway. Remember that
famous quote from Napoleon.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> you are not even in the game any more.
>> How odd that there are almost no chinese involved in our
>> mining industry, which just happens to produce a positive
>> balance of trade in OUR favour with both china and japan,
>> something neither canada or america can manage.
> Patience Rod, patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. Oil and gas has priority.
There are fuck all chinese involved in either of those industrys either.
> The game is global in which Ozzieland is a side show.
There are fuck all chinese involved in the global either.
> There is no grand scheme from the evil empire to take over the
> world. They aren't that smart. But much will happen anyway.
The same claim was made about Japan too. Look at them now.
> Remember that famous quote from Napoleon.
He's dead.
So is Mao who had plenty of those too.
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>How odd that there are almost no chinese involved in our mining industry,
>which just happens to produce a positive balance of trade in OUR favour
>with both china and japan, something neither canada or america can manage.
You probably don't realise it. Australian mines were in the doldrums
and losing money until the China demand boosted their fortunes. The
Chinese market is the whole reason for Australia's prosperity. A
shift of extractive resources production to, say Russia or Africa, and
you'll be scraping the hardscrabble.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> How odd that there are almost no chinese involved in
>> our mining industry, which just happens to produce a
>> positive balance of trade in OUR favour with both china
and japan, something neither canada or america can manage.
> You probably don't realise it.
Nothing to 'realise', this claim of yours is a bare faced pig ignorant lie.
> Australian mines were in the doldrums and losing
> money until the China demand boosted their fortunes.
Pig ignorant lie. We had a massive trade balance in our favor
with Japan and its the mining exports that produced that.
The immense exports of iron ore, coal, aluminium, natural gas,
etc etc etc were going mostly to Japan and still mostly do.
> The Chinese market is the whole reason for Australia's prosperity.
Pig ignorant lie. And we were actually discussing where chinese coming out of
university end up employment wise, not how the world trade system works anyway.
> A shift of extractive resources production to, say Russia or Africa,
Taint gunna happen with iron ore, coal, natural gas, uranium, copper etc etc etc.
> and you'll be scraping the hardscrabble.
Another pig ignorant lie.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a clue
about the basics of what mining is about or who works in those industrys here either.
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Pig ignorant lie. We had a massive trade balance in our favor
>with Japan and its the mining exports that produced that.
And the e Ozzie government has so much money in the bank that it
doesn't know what to do with it?
Oct 2007: http://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/ir/aus/eng/curaus.htm
A. Official reserve assets 33,162.85 millions. (33 billions).
CITIGroup had already lost more than that in the subprime mess.
>
>The immense exports of iron ore, coal, aluminium, natural gas,
>etc etc etc were going mostly to Japan and still mostly do.
Japan had no growth for more than a decade. She is only now beginning
to get out of the economic basement, again due to trade with China.
In fact China had just edged the US out as Japan's biggest trading
partner.
Given that Japan is the second biggest economy after the US and that
she has practically no natural resources of her own, sure her imports
will be large just to maintain domestic consumption. Natural gas and
coal is for her own use, neither is processed nor re-exported.
Japan's exports are in the high tech sector that does not require much
raw materials and certainly not heavy metal products. There are few
if any fully loaded massively large container ships leaving Japan's
ports on a scale anywhere close to China's. That is Japan's demand
was and is still stagnant and her consumption of your exports does not
drive prices. China's demand does.
Minerals, coal, oil and gas is an extractive industry. Once out of
the ground you don't do much else with it. Don't get too awed by the
size of the machines. Basically its dig and sell. Australia is
blessed with rich deposits of minerals, is close to her markets and
can ship cheaply by sea. That's the luck of the draw, not something
you can attribute to your cleverness or hard work. Go dig up the
records from as recently as 10 years back. You mining boom predicates
on Chinese demand.
Canada's extractive resources boom is also due to Chinese demand, and
we have oil too. We have no illusions about how important that market
is to us. We have also no illusions about our competitiveness in
other fields including high tech. We just don't have the population,
therefore the market size, to compete globally in any field the
Chinese chose to enter. And we may end up as just extractive
resources suppliers to the US, China and the rest of the world.
Australia is in the same boat and your compensating economic sectors
are even less than Canada's.
Sure it takes big big bucks to open up a mine. The technology and
equipment is available to anyone with the money. Mining engineers one
can hire from anywhere. Operators are all local. Operating giant
mining machines does not require top class brain power. A high school
diploma or a two year college course is good enough for these very
well paid jobs. These job openings are guarded jealously in
Ozzieland, in Canada and in the US. In fact in every country these
somewhat skilled jobs are union protected and do not welcome
outsiders. So outsiders (aka Chinese) who can go to university and go
into professions and faculties (that the locals do not have enough
brains to qualify for.)
Anyway from your history in this group, time has already passed you
by. Me too. You are not a player in today's economy because you
have neither the qualifications or technical skills. All your
pontificating, posturing and plain pissing off impresses no one.
Rod Speed
>>> Australian mines were in the doldrums and losing
>>> money until the China demand boosted their fortunes.
>> Pig ignorant lie. We had a massive trade balance in our favor
>> with Japan and its the mining exports that produced that.
> And the Ozzie government has so much money in
> the bank that it doesn't know what to do with it?
Another pig ignorant lie. The govt cuts taxes to deal with that.
Taxes that are already one of the lowest in the entire modern
first world when measured as a percentage of GDP per person.
And the federal surpluses are an entirely separate
matter to the country's exports anyway.
> Oct 2007: http://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/ir/aus/eng/curaus.htm
> A. Official reserve assets 33,162.85 millions. (33 billions).
> CITIGroup had already lost more than that in the subprime mess.
Irrelevant what those fools did.
>> The immense exports of iron ore, coal, aluminium, natural gas,
>> etc etc etc were going mostly to Japan and still mostly do.
> Japan had no growth for more than a decade.
Irrelevant to whether we STILL export more to Japan than we import
from Japan and whether we STILL export more to Japan than we do
to China and expect to still be doing that until around 2012 or so.
Your original claim now at the top was and still is a pig ignorant lie.
> She is only now beginning to get out of the economic basement,
> again due to trade with China. In fact China had just edged the
> US out as Japan's biggest trading partner.
Irrelevant to that pig ignorant lie of yours now right at the top
which you carefully deleted from the quoting and I have restored.
> Given that Japan is the second biggest economy after the US and
> that she has practically no natural resources of her own, sure her
> imports will be large just to maintain domestic consumption.
So your pig ignorant lie now right at the top was always just that.
Much of what we export to China is for domestic consumption too,
essentially because we dont on the whole sell to China too much of
what it exports to the rest of the world in processed form. We have
always done much more of that with Japan, particularly the metal and
ore exports. Most of the iron ore exports to china are currently ending
up in domestic consumption, particularly in building and construction etc.
> Natural gas and coal is for her own use, neither is processed nor re-exported.
Precisely, so your claim at the top is just plain wrong.
> Japan's exports are in the high tech sector that does not require
> much raw materials and certainly not heavy metal products.
Thats just plain wrong with the car industry particularly.
> There are few if any fully loaded massively large container ships
> leaving Japan's ports on a scale anywhere close to China's.
Another pig ignorant lie with cars particularly.
> That is Japan's demand was and is still stagnant and her consumption
> of your exports does not drive prices. China's demand does.
Irrelevant to that pig ignorant lie of yours now right at the top
which you carefully deleted from the quoting and I have restored.
> Minerals, coal, oil and gas is an extractive industry. Once
> out of the ground you don't do much else with it. Don't get
> too awed by the size of the machines. Basically its dig and sell.
And that STILL produces a positive balance of trade in OUR favour with Japan
and China, something that neither Canada, the US or the EU can manage.
> Australia is blessed with rich deposits of minerals, is close to her
> markets and can ship cheaply by sea. That's the luck of the draw,
> not something you can attribute to your cleverness or hard work.
Never ever did that. I JUST rubbed your pig ignorant nose in the FACT
that we have a positive balance of trade in OUR favour with Japan and
China, something that neither Canada, the US or the EU can manage
and that there are very few chinese employed in our mining industrys.
> Go dig up the records from as recently as 10 years back.
Dont need to, I've been investing in the mining industry for going on 50
years now thanks, and making a lot of money in the process myself.
> You mining boom predicates on Chinese demand.
Another pig ignorant lie. We had a positive balance of trade in OUR favor
even when that fool Mao was damaging the chinese economy very severely
indeed and even now we STILL sell a lot more to Japan than to China.
> Canada's extractive resources boom is also due to Chinese demand,
No it isnt, most obviously with aluminium. In fact fuck all of canadian exports end up in china.
> and we have oil too.
Fuck all of which ends up in china.
> We have no illusions about how important that market is to us.
Its MUCH less important than the US, EU and Japan in fact.
> We have also no illusions about our competitiveness in other
> fields including high tech. We just don't have the population,
> therefore the market size, to compete globally in any field the
> Chinese chose to enter.
How odd that we have a lower population and manage it fine.
> And we may end up as just extractive resources
> suppliers to the US, China and the rest of the world.
> Australia is in the same boat and your compensating
> economic sectors are even less than Canada's.
Irrelevant to the FACT that we have a positive balance of trade in OUR favour with
Japan and China, something that neither Canada, the US or the EU can manage.
> Sure it takes big big bucks to open up a mine. The technology
> and equipment is available to anyone with the money. Mining
> engineers one can hire from anywhere. Operators are all local.
No they arent. We run a number of mines outside the country too.
> Operating giant mining machines does not require top class brain power.
Pity the design engineering does.
> A high school diploma or a two year college course is good
> enough for these very well paid jobs. These job openings
> are guarded jealously in Ozzieland, in Canada and in the US.
Another pig ignorant lie. We have always had such a shortage of that
sort of ape that those industrys employ hordes of new immigrants.
> In fact in every country these somewhat skilled jobs are union protected
Another pig ignorant lie. We have completely eliminated
that problem in most of the mining industry.
> and do not welcome outsiders.
Another pig ignorant lie. We have always had such a shortage of that
sort of ape that those industrys employ hordes of new immigrants.
> So outsiders (aka Chinese) who can go to university
> and go into professions and faculties
And dont end up as engineers in the mining industry
that employs hordes of university qualified professionals.
> (that the locals do not have enough brains to qualify for.)
Another pig ignorant lie.
> Anyway from your history in this group, time has already passed you by.
Nope, its might just be the main reason I'm rolling in it, unlike you.
> Me too. You are not a player in today's economy because
> you have neither the qualifications or technical skills.
Guess who just got egg all over its silly little pig ignorant face, yet again ?
I happen to have better professional qualifications from university than the
absolute vast bulk of chinese in this country have. Technical skills in spades.
> All your pontificating, posturing and plain pissing off impresses no one.
Your pig ignorant lies about the australian economy in spades.
Your flagrantly racist claims about chinese in spades, every single person
who has chosen to comment has noticed your problem in that area.
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I happen to have better professional qualifications from university than the
>absolute vast bulk of chinese in this country have. Technical skills in spades.
Huh? Degree(s) from which university and year of graduation(s). Your
professional affliations. These are easy enough to confirm with the
click of a mouse.
Yep. Skills of the spade (and prick) kind. Your technical expertise
is in gutter language ( the prick part.) That figures. You were
born there and never got out of the gutter. You are too comfortable
there deep in dirt. You have a legion of fans in this newsgroup some
of whom had compiled their custom profile of your social shortcomings
(welfare bum, etc.) and described that noggin (aka pint sized brain)
of yours. That's quite an accomplishment.
As for your other rants, I do not have a first hand knowledge of
Australia. True. I had already said quite a few posts ago that in
the scheme of things Australia is a side show and of little interest.
I do have friends and relatives in Ozzieland. There isn't much news
of interest from your part of the world. Socially challenged rejects
like yourself my Chinese contacts can easily ignore and keep out of
their circle. The more refined Ozzies are easy enough to get along
with and predictably unremarkable. You guys seldom come up in our
conversations. One interesting tid bit, from my brother in law in
Singapore, is that you Ozzies are so freaked out about Chinese owning
housing property that there is a law that prevents them from reselling
their house(s) in the open market. They have to resell it to an Ozzie
white guy so that the price will be low enough for whitey to afford.
That speaks spades about your country's residual racism and your
individual economic status than any rant you can come up with. B-i-l
owns two mansions in Perth, prime ocean view, swimming pools and all,
one he uses for his vacations and the other a rental property. Most
ordinary Ozzies won't be able to afford to buy them anyway. That's
why I said earlier that you should take a drive by in the newer
housing developments and observe who lives there.
Man. You are so predictable and easy to crank up (aka mess up your
noggin) The measure is how long it takes to get you to sputter along
in your foul language mode. The answer is not much at all..
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> PaPaPeng <PaPa...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Australian mines were in the doldrums and losing
>>> money until the China demand boosted their fortunes.
>> I happen to have better professional qualifications from university
>> than the absolute vast bulk of chinese in this country have.
>> Technical skills in spades.
> Huh? Degree(s) from which university and year of graduation(s).
> Your professional affliations.
Mind your own business and post yours if you
want something like that from someone else.
> These are easy enough to confirm with the click of a mouse.
Wrong, as always.
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
> As for your other rants,
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
I JUST disposed of your stupid pig ignorant claims very comprehensively indeed.
> I do not have a first hand knowledge of Australia. True.
And cant even do even the most basic research before making
terminally pig ignorant claims like that one now back at the top again.
> I had already said quite a few posts ago that in the scheme
> of things Australia is a side show and of little interest.
Irrelevant to the stupid pig ignorant claim of yours at the top being discussed.
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
> One interesting tid bit, from my brother in law in Singapore, is
> that you Ozzies are so freaked out about Chinese owning housing
> property that there is a law that prevents them from reselling their
> house(s) in the open market. They have to resell it to an Ozzie
> white guy so that the price will be low enough for whitey to afford.
No there isnt. Yet another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
Here is ALL of our legislation, you wont be
able to list that law, because it doesnt exist.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/forms/search1.html
> That speaks spades about your country's residual racism and your
> individual economic status than any rant you can come up with.
Nope, just your BiL and which ever chinese told him that lie, actually.
> B-i-l owns two mansions in Perth, prime ocean view, swimming pools
> and all, one he uses for his vacations and the other a rental property.
> Most ordinary Ozzies won't be able to afford to buy them anyway.
How odd that so many of us own property like that ourselves.
> That's why I said earlier that you should take a drive by in
> the newer housing developments and observe who lives there.
I know who lives there thanks, and you can research that stuff online anytime too.
> Man. You are so predictable and easy to crank up (aka mess up your noggin)
Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
You're the one going ballistic when your nose is rubbed in your flagrant racism.
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Australian mines were in the doldrums and losing
>>>> money until the China demand boosted their fortunes.
>
>>> I happen to have better professional qualifications from university
>>> than the absolute vast bulk of chinese in this country have.
>>> Technical skills in spades.
>
>> Huh? Degree(s) from which university and year of graduation(s).
>> Your professional affliations.
>
>Mind your own business and post yours if you
>want something like that from someone else.
>
Its not about me at all. You are the one claiming competence and
authority on the basis of academic and professional qualifications.
Prove it.
>> These are easy enough to confirm with the click of a mouse.
>
>Wrong, as always.
You mean there is no verifiable evidence?
>
><reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
>
>> As for your other rants,
>
>Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
>
>I JUST disposed of your stupid pig ignorant claims very comprehensively indeed.
Do grow up a little please. Learn a bit more about the cultural
sensitivities of others. I am not Muslim. Yelling Oink carries no
cultural baggage for me. In fact even the rat and snake have their
benign place in the Chinese Zodiac calendar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Chinese_Zodiac
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Zodiac
For your learning challenged noggin 2007 is the year of the pig. It
has been a good year and many parents planned and had their one and
only kid this year as its reputed to bring good luck, prosperity and
stuff like that. Pork is also the favorite meat of Chinese.
Based on modern farming methods factory raised porkers already live
much better than you do.
>> I do not have a first hand knowledge of Australia. True.
>
>And cant even do even the most basic research before making
>terminally pig ignorant claims like that one now back at the top again.
>
>> I had already said quite a few posts ago that in the scheme
>> of things Australia is a side show and of little interest.
>
>Irrelevant to the stupid pig ignorant claim of yours at the top being discussed.
Well what little I do know about Ozzieland is a lot more than any
knowledge you have about matters outside Ozzieland.
>
>
><reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
Get a dictionary and pick up a few new more effective insults. Your
limited vocab is showing its age and yours.
>
>> One interesting tid bit, from my brother in law in Singapore, is
>> that you Ozzies are so freaked out about Chinese owning housing
>> property that there is a law that prevents them from reselling their
>> house(s) in the open market. They have to resell it to an Ozzie
>> white guy so that the price will be low enough for whitey to afford.
>
>No there isnt. Yet another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
>
>Here is ALL of our legislation, you wont be
>able to list that law, because it doesnt exist.
>http://www.austlii.edu.au/forms/search1.html
Now he is a real professional who owns a large medical group practice.
He also owns real property in Perth and therefore should know the
local ordinances. I have no reason to disbelieve his words. I have
lots of reasons to dismiss yours out of hand..
>
>> That speaks spades about your country's residual racism and your
>> individual economic status than any rant you can come up with.
>
>Nope, just your BiL and which ever chinese told him that lie, actually.
>
>> B-i-l owns two mansions in Perth, prime ocean view, swimming pools
>> and all, one he uses for his vacations and the other a rental property.
>> Most ordinary Ozzies won't be able to afford to buy them anyway.
>
>How odd that so many of us own property like that ourselves.
There are a lot more of whites in Ozzieland and not all of them are
losers like you. Do make a stab as to why it isn't a white only, or
for that matter a Chinese, rich men's ghetto.
You had many moons ago let on that you live alone in the bush, and
probably back to the soil lifestyle out of necessity. You probably
catch goannas in you backyard to work off your anger issues. Your
mother wears combat b _ _ _ _ _ I'll pass on that.
>
>> That's why I said earlier that you should take a drive by in
>> the newer housing developments and observe who lives there.
>
>I know who lives there thanks, and you can research that stuff online anytime too.
If such data is accessible then I should be able to look you up too.
Back to my above polite request for your proof.
>
>> Man. You are so predictable and easy to crank up (aka mess up your noggin)
>
>Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
>
><reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
>old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
I do believe there are a number of books on "The Art Of Insult". Do
avail yourself of them from the public library. You really need to
improve yourself even if it is in the negative direction. Then again
isn't Ozzieland upside down in everything?
>
>You're the one going ballistic when your nose is rubbed in your flagrant racism.
Did I hear "Oink, oink, oink, squeal" with an Ozzieland accent?
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Australian mines were in the doldrums and losing
>>>>> money until the China demand boosted their fortunes.
>>>> I happen to have better professional qualifications from university
>>>> than the absolute vast bulk of chinese in this country have.
>>>> Technical skills in spades.
>>> Huh? Degree(s) from which university and year of graduation(s).
>>> Your professional affliations.
>> Mind your own business and post yours if you
>> want something like that from someone else.
> Its not about me at all.
It is when you demand something like that.
> You are the one claiming competence and authority on
> the basis of academic and professional qualifications.
> Prove it.
Whatever I say wont prove anything because there is no way for you to verify it.
>>> These are easy enough to confirm with the click of a mouse.
>> Wrong, as always.
> You mean there is no verifiable evidence?
Yep, the university, the ANU in Canberra, does not have
any way for you to check it with the click of a mouse.
My thesis does turn up online tho and you can find it for yourself
since I use my real name and dont cower behind a nick like you do.
>> <reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
>> old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
>>> As for your other rants,
>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
>> I JUST disposed of your stupid pig ignorant claims very comprehensively indeed.
> Do grow up a little please.
Work on your bullshitting 'skills', even you should be able to do better
than that pathetically hoary old line. No please, that's an order.
> Learn a bit more about the cultural sensitivities of others.
Thats rich after your desperate puerile attempts at insults.
> I am not Muslim. Yelling Oink carries no cultural baggage for me.
Learn about what colloquial english is about some time.
> In fact even the rat and snake have their
> benign place in the Chinese Zodiac calendar.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Chinese_Zodiac
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Zodiac
Its got nothing to do with any animal, fool.
> For your learning challenged noggin 2007 is the year of the pig.
I couldnt care less what year it is in some stupid zodiac or other.
> It has been a good year and many parents planned and had their one and only
> kid this year as its reputed to bring good luck, prosperity and stuff like that.
No one with a clue has any interest in that sort of mindlessly silly superstitious crap.
> Pork is also the favorite meat of Chinese.
No news to anyone.
> Based on modern farming methods factory raised
> porkers already live much better than you do.
Like hell they do.
They dont even live better than you do either.
>>> I do not have a first hand knowledge of Australia. True.
>> And cant even do even the most basic research before making
>> terminally pig ignorant claims like that one now back at the top again.
>>> I had already said quite a few posts ago that in the scheme
>>> of things Australia is a side show and of little interest.
>> Irrelevant to the stupid pig ignorant claim of yours at the top being discussed.
> Well what little I do know about Ozzieland is a lot more than
> any knowledge you have about matters outside Ozzieland.
Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
All you have ever done is prove you know absolutely nothing
about anything at all except a bit of chinese mythology at most.
You certainly dont have a clue about chinese involvement in the
professions in any western country or anything else at all, either.
>> <reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
>> old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
>>> One interesting tid bit, from my brother in law in Singapore, is
>>> that you Ozzies are so freaked out about Chinese owning housing
>>> property that there is a law that prevents them from reselling their
>>> house(s) in the open market. They have to resell it to an Ozzie
>>> white guy so that the price will be low enough for whitey to afford.
>> No there isnt. Yet another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
>> Here is ALL of our legislation, you wont be
>> able to list that law, because it doesnt exist.
>> http://www.austlii.edu.au/forms/search1.html
> Now he is a real professional who owns a large medical group practice.
He is clearly either a bare faced liar or a flagrant racist that is actually
stupid enough to buy that lie from another flagrant racist chinese.
> He also owns real property in Perth and
> therefore should know the local ordinances.
That isnt even a local govt matter in this country.
> I have no reason to disbelieve his words.
You're welcome to use that search engine and find the
ordinance you are actually stupid enough to believe exists.
Its obvious why you couldnt find anything.
> I have lots of reasons to dismiss yours out of hand..
Nope, just one, I exposed your complete pig ignorance
time after time after time, for everyone in here to laugh at.
>>> That speaks spades about your country's residual racism and your
>>> individual economic status than any rant you can come up with.
>> Nope, just your BiL and which ever chinese told him that lie, actually.
>>> B-i-l owns two mansions in Perth, prime ocean view, swimming pools
>>> and all, one he uses for his vacations and the other a rental property.
>>> Most ordinary Ozzies won't be able to afford to buy them anyway.
>> How odd that so many of us own property like that ourselves.
> There are a lot more of whites in Ozzieland and not all of
> them are losers like you. Do make a stab as to why it isn't
> a white only, or for that matter a Chinese, rich men's ghetto.
The answer is obvious, we have one of the highest levels of immigration
seen with western countrys and do not discriminate against chinese
anymore, and there are hordes of chinese who have shat in their nest
very comprehensively indeed in SE Asia who see this as being a good
place to move to and to buy property in. We happen to have some of
the best property available and some of the best living and working
conditions in any western country and we get FAR more wanting to
move here than we choose to allow to migrate here.
> You had many moons ago let on that you live alone in the bush,
No I didnt.
> and probably back to the soil lifestyle
Never ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that either.
> out of necessity.
That in spades.
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
>>> That's why I said earlier that you should take a drive by in
>>> the newer housing developments and observe who lives there.
>> I know who lives there thanks, and you
>> can research that stuff online anytime too.
> If such data is accessible then I should be able to look you up too.
No you cant on that particular question, because I built
my own house from scratch, and its only real estate
sales transactions that you can research like that.
> Back to my above polite request for your proof.
You dont get to demand proof of anything while cowering behind a
pathetic excuse of a nick like yours and not being prepared to provide
anything like what you are demanding of your own qualifications.
>>> Man. You are so predictable and easy to crank up (aka mess up your noggin)
>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
>> <reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
>> old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
>> You're the one going ballistic when your nose is rubbed in your flagrant racism.
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
PaPaPeng
<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Whatever I say wont prove anything because there is no way for you to verify it.
>
>>>> These are easy enough to confirm with the click of a mouse.
>
>>> Wrong, as always.
>
>> You mean there is no verifiable evidence?
>
>Yep, the university, the ANU in Canberra, does not have
>any way for you to check it with the click of a mouse.
>
>My thesis does turn up online tho and you can find it for yourself
>since I use my real name and dont cower behind a nick like you do.
URL?
You contradict youreself in the very next breath. Anyway you gave
enough info to do a search and lo and behold look what turned up right
on top of the search list as the link with the most hits. A faggot
and a pedophile, your online persona anyway. Why am I not surprised.
Anyway no record of any of your academic claims. URL?
>http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-178556-p-2.html
>Ext User(crazythunderbox)30-05-2006, 04:13 PM
>oldus fartus this ring a bell??
>
>gavin larwood Age: 32 Sex: Male City: bunbury Country: australia
>Date Joined: 8-Mar-2001
>Email Address: deni...@iinet.net.au
>Sexual Orientation:gay
>Family Status:
>Height: 6'1" - 6'2" (184 cm - 188 cm)
>Weight: 161 lbs - 180 lbs ( 71 Kg - 80 Kg)
>Hair Color: blonde
>Hair Style: very short
>Eye Color: blue
>Education: 3 year
>Occoupation: plant operator, labour
>Ethnic Origin/Race: aussie
>
>Religion: church of england
>Hobbies: fishing,hunting, cricket, football, and computers.
>Partner's Age: Age is not important to me
>
>I like most things out doors,and i don't like bullshit artist, i like
>it straight down the line.
>
>Larwood
>7 Carey St Bunbury 6230 (08) 9792 4426
>
>203.59.113.130
++++++++++
>Ext User(crazythunderbox)
>30-05-2006, 07:53 PM
>funny i couldnt even be bothered seems funny you and rod speed seem
>to type alike each other another one of your alias??
>i must say you arnt much liked in these forums some good information
>what has been said so many seem to dislike you why is that?
>
>i dont give a shit about your isp's i already know you use netspace and
>iinet you used netspace in 2003,
>
>and your not a old fart you are 32 or a you getting male penpals under
>false pretences?
>
Your online persona and areas of interest is pretty consistent
though.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Whatever I say wont prove anything because there is no way for you to verify it.
>>>>> These are easy enough to confirm with the click of a mouse.
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>> You mean there is no verifiable evidence?
>> Yep, the university, the ANU in Canberra, does not have
>> any way for you to check it with the click of a mouse.
>> My thesis does turn up online tho and you can find it for yourself
>> since I use my real name and dont cower behind a nick like you do.
> URL?
There is no url, and if you had ever done one, you'd know why there isnt.
> You contradict youreself in the very next breath.
Nope, you're so stupid that you cant manage to work out
the difference between that and what you pig ignorantly
claimed could be verified with click of a mouse.
<reams of your puerile attempts at insults any 2 year
old could leave for dead flushed where they belong>
Guess which stupid flagrantly racist chinaman has
just got egg all over its silly little face, yet again ?
No surprise that its completely unemployable.