Pigs tow away motorhomes belonging to the homeless in Ontario, CA.
A Texan from Connecticut
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tentcity6mar06,1,3712683.story
"Pattie Barnes, 46, learned Wednesday just how serious the warnings
were.
"She was sitting in her motor home when a police officer approached.
"He asked me to start it. I tried, but the battery was dead," said the
tearful Barnes. "The officer wouldn't give me any time to jump-start
it. He just said, 'It's mine.' "
She begged him not to take the vehicle and sobbed as it was towed
away.""
Fuck the pig who took the woman's only home away and on top of that
made a snide remark. It's "officers" like him that make people hate
the police and good cops end up taking shit for it..
John A. Weeks III
ulti...@hotmail.com (A Texan from Connecticut) wrote:
> "Pattie Barnes, 46, learned Wednesday just how serious the warnings
> were.
>
> "She was sitting in her motor home when a police officer approached.
>
> "He asked me to start it. I tried, but the battery was dead," said the
> tearful Barnes. "The officer wouldn't give me any time to jump-start
> it. He just said, 'It's mine.' "
>
> She begged him not to take the vehicle and sobbed as it was towed
> away.""
Miss Barnes was given a 3 day warning because her vehicle was
on city property but had not been registered in over 6 months.
She had 3 days to prepare and move the vehicle. The fact that
she did nothing to try to prevent being towed means to me that
she (or her 20 year kid who lives with her) did not care if
her vehicle was towed.
And it isn't like she lost the vehicle. All she has to do
satisfy the ticket by getting it licensed, then pay the towing
and storage fees. If the lady and her able bodied adult son
cannot take care of that, then perhaps they are not the type
of people who should own a recreational vehicle.
-john-
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"Scott in SoCal" <scotte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:22:12 GMT, ulti...@hotmail.com (A Texan from
> Connecticut) wrote:
>
>>
>>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tentcity6mar06,1,3712683.story
>>
>>
>>"Pattie Barnes, 46, learned Wednesday just how serious the warnings
>>were.
>>
>>"She was sitting in her motor home when a police officer approached.
>>
>>"He asked me to start it. I tried, but the battery was dead," said the
>>tearful Barnes. "The officer wouldn't give me any time to jump-start
>>it. He just said, 'It's mine.' "
>>
>>She begged him not to take the vehicle and sobbed as it was towed
>>away.""
>>
>> Fuck the pig who took the woman's only home away and on top of that
>>made a snide remark.
>
> trailer in YOUR yard? Then the "pigs" won't be able to harrass her
> anymore.
code violations?
Guest
This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
to adjoining neighborhoods.
My favorite quote from the article:
"The city started something it couldn't finish."
ulti...@hotmail.com
> In article <480b4334.571...@news-server.ca.rr.com>,
> ultim...@hotmail.com (A Texan from Connecticut) wrote:
>
> > "Pattie Barnes, 46, learned Wednesday just how serious the warnings
> > were.
>
> > "She was sitting in her motor home when a police officer approached.
>
> > "He asked me to start it. I tried, but the battery was dead," said the
> > tearful Barnes. "The officer wouldn't give me any time to jump-start
> > it. He just said, 'It's mine.' "
>
> > She begged him not to take the vehicle and sobbed as it was towed
> > away.""
>
> Miss Barnes was given a 3 day warning because her vehicle was
> on city property but had not been registered in over 6 months.
> She had 3 days to prepare and move the vehicle. The fact that
> she did nothing to try to prevent being towed means to me that
> she (or her 20 year kid who lives with her) did not care if
> her vehicle was towed.
Yeah, because we know that money and the phy$ical logistics to repair
it grows on trees around the camp, and that the homeless are loaded
with cash all of the time..
>
> And it isn't like she lost the vehicle. All she has to do
> satisfy the ticket by getting it licensed, then pay the towing
> and storage fees. If the lady and her able bodied adult son
Yeah, because we all know the homeless can scrape together the
initial towing fee
and a storage fee that grows bu $60 PEr DAY to get their motor home
out.
> cannot take care of that, then perhaps they are not the type
> of people who should own a recreational vehicle.
>
Or maybe jobs aren't as plentiful, esp ones that can pay the high
rents, as you Libertarians think.
ulti...@hotmail.com
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>
> > "Scott in SoCal" <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:5orm04t896f7hrum8...@4ax.com...
> > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:22:12 GMT, ultim...@hotmail.com (A Texan from
> > > Connecticut) wrote:
>
> > >>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-tentcity6mar06,1,3712683.story
>
> > >>"Pattie Barnes, 46, learned Wednesday just how serious the warnings
> > >>were.
>
> > >>"She was sitting in her motor home when a police officer approached.
>
> > >>"He asked me to start it. I tried, but the battery was dead," said the
> > >>tearful Barnes. "The officer wouldn't give me any time to jump-start
> > >>it. He just said, 'It's mine.' "
>
> > >>She begged him not to take the vehicle and sobbed as it was towed
> > >>away.""
>
> > >> Fuck the pig who took the woman's only home away and on top of that
> > >>made a snide remark.
>
> > > Tell you what: why don't you offer to let Ms. Barnes park her fugly
> > > trailer in YOUR yard? Then the "pigs" won't be able to harrass her
> > > anymore.
>
> > code violations?
>
> This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
> doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
> provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
> number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
Maybe because there is a huge demand for land, even the shittiest
scap of land to be able to live on, that costs little
or nothing. When you have no money, and jobs are getting scarce, and
cost of living skyrockets while wages remain stagnant, what do you do
now that the land Nazis (both private and gov't) own the entire 100
fucking percent? People
need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
Anthony Matonak
>> This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
>> doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
>> provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
>> number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
>
> Maybe because there is a huge demand for land, even the shittiest
> scap of land to be able to live on, that costs little
> or nothing. When you have no money, and jobs are getting scarce, and
> cost of living skyrockets while wages remain stagnant, what do you do
> now that the land Nazis (both private and gov't) own the entire 100
> fucking percent? People
> need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
> inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
Are you suggesting that somehow the world owes you a piece of
land to plant your trailer? What else does the world owe you?
Where is this going to come from if you don't take it from
someone else?
Isn't this just a form of communism? Everyone takes from anyone
who has anything in the hopes that enough people will remain
productive enough to support the freeloaders?
Anthony
John A. Weeks III
<fbbe020d-360f-4b4d...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
ulti...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
> > doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
> > provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
> > number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
>
> Maybe because there is a huge demand for land, even the shittiest
> scap of land to be able to live on, that costs little
> or nothing. When you have no money, and jobs are getting scarce, and
> cost of living skyrockets while wages remain stagnant, what do you do
> now that the land Nazis (both private and gov't) own the entire 100
> fucking percent? People
> need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
> inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
If land is the issue, then why didn't this person go park on BLM
land? The BLM has millions of acres of land open for RVs all over
the southwest.
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> In article
> <fbbe020d-360f-4b4d...@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> ulti...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> > This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
>> > doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
>> > provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
>> > number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
>>
>> Maybe because there is a huge demand for land, even the shittiest
>> scap of land to be able to live on, that costs little
>> or nothing. When you have no money, and jobs are getting scarce, and
>> cost of living skyrockets while wages remain stagnant, what do you do
>> now that the land Nazis (both private and gov't) own the entire 100
>> fucking percent? People
>> need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
>> inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
>
> If land is the issue, then why didn't this person go park on BLM
> land? The BLM has millions of acres of land open for RVs all over
> the southwest.
>
> -john-
maybe they didn't know about it? i didn't. maybe they couldn't get
there?
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anthony, i know you don't believe this, but unless you're a millionaire of
some sort, this turd of paradise is probably coming home to roost with you
in the not-too-distant future. this country is in DEEP SHIT and the huge
majority of it's residents aren't paying attention. as long as they aren't
directly affected, they don't see the shitball heading their way.
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oops: its residents
Anthony Matonak
> "Anthony Matonak" <antho...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> On Apr 20, 11:34 am, "Guest" <gu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
>>>> doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
>>>> provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
>>>> number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
>>> People
>>> need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
>>> inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
>> Are you suggesting that somehow the world owes you a piece of
>> land to plant your trailer?
>
> some sort, this turd of paradise is probably coming home to roost with you
> in the not-too-distant future. this country is in DEEP SHIT and the huge
> majority of it's residents aren't paying attention. as long as they aren't
> directly affected, they don't see the shitball heading their way.
You seem to be saying that the problem is that some people own things
(like land) that other people want or even need. You don't seem to
think that actually paying for it is a good idea so what do you propose?
One idea that has often been tried is simply to take it. After all, they
have something you want and they won't give it to you willingly so what
else can you do? Doesn't the world owe you what they have? Don't you
need it (or want it) more than them? Can't you make better use of it?
Why does someone else get to have more than you anyhow? Isn't it just
completely unfair that someone else has something and you do not?
Anthony
ulti...@hotmail.com
<anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 11:34 am, "Guest" <gu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> ...
> >> This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
> >> doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
> >> provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
> >> number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
>
> > Maybe because there is a huge demand for land, even the shittiest
> > scap of land to be able to live on, that costs little
> > or nothing. When you have no money, and jobs are getting scarce, and
> > cost of living skyrockets while wages remain stagnant, what do you do
> > now that the land Nazis (both private and gov't) own the entire 100
> > fucking percent? People
> > need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
> > inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
>
> Are you suggesting that somehow the world owes you a piece of
> land to plant your trailer? What else does the world owe you?
I don't expect the world to give me anything. What I expect is for
the paper kings to stay the fuck out of my way, and not prevent me
from being able to live. Who the fuck told them to grab 100,000s of
acers and tell everyone else to fuck off?
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anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats, etc
should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes on
these thing. you'll find out
really quickly just who "owns" your property.
Dennis
<der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats, etc
>should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes on
>these thing. you'll find out
>really quickly just who "owns" your property.
I pay no property tax on my vehicles or boat. I pay license fees,
but I know firsthand that nothing happens when I stop paying the fees
and let the license lapse (and I'm still free to use them as I please
on private property). So I guess I really do own them.
Dennis (evil)
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:57:13 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
> <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats,
>>etc
>>should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes
>>on
>>these thing. you'll find out
>>really quickly just who "owns" your property.
>
> I pay no property tax on my vehicles or boat. I pay license fees,
> but I know firsthand that nothing happens when I stop paying the fees
> and let the license lapse (and I'm still free to use them as I please
> on private property). So I guess I really do own them.
in some states, there are user fees for these items. it's a tax based upon
the value of the item. we don't have it on cars here in pa, but we did in
sc and i'm pretty sure they do it in nv. i can't remember about tn, me, or
la. if it's a tax, you do not own the item.
John A. Weeks III
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats, etc
> should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes on
> these thing. you'll find out
> really quickly just who "owns" your property.
Is that some kind of surprise to you? Even kindergarden kids know
that if you don't take care of your toys, they get taken away from
you.
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> In article <tqrPj.3024$Mm1.2540@trndny07>,
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats,
>> etc
>> should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes
>> on
>> these thing. you'll find out
>> really quickly just who "owns" your property.
>
> Is that some kind of surprise to you? Even kindergarden kids know
> that if you don't take care of your toys, they get taken away from
> you.
has nothing to do with taking care of anything and everything to do with the
fact
that the bonds needed to run your local govt/school system are secured by
the value
of your house. that's what happens when you vote to accept a bond
initiative. a
chunk of your taxes goes to pay the interest on these muni bonds. if you
don't pay them,
your home WILL BE SOLD at a tax auction. as long as your property can be
taxed,
you never really own it, the local govt does.
John A. Weeks III
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> has nothing to do with taking care of anything and everything to do with the
> fact
> that the bonds needed to run your local govt/school system are secured by
> the value
> of your house. that's what happens when you vote to accept a bond
> initiative. a
> chunk of your taxes goes to pay the interest on these muni bonds. if you
> don't pay them,
> your home WILL BE SOLD at a tax auction. as long as your property can be
> taxed,
> you never really own it, the local govt does.
This is drifting way off topic. Your view is a very paranoid
point of view. Try saying it the other way around...as long as
you pay your property taxes, your really do own your property.
Coffee's For Closers
dg...@hotmail.com says...
> >anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats, etc
> >should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes on
> >these thing. you'll find out
> >really quickly just who "owns" your property.
> I pay no property tax on my vehicles or boat. I pay license fees,
> but I know firsthand that nothing happens when I stop paying the fees
> and let the license lapse (and I'm still free to use them as I please
> on private property). So I guess I really do own them.
I think the point was about the most common use of a
(non-farm/non-industrial) vehicle. Which is driving and parking
on public roadways. Which is the point of the thread - the
seizure of unapproved vehicles which are parked on a public
street.
The motor home in question wasn't drivable, as admitted by its
former owner. Also, she had a three-day notice, which may even
have been a big orange sticker on the windscreen, saying, "Move
Or Get Towed." That is how the city of San Franciso used to get
attention with a car that was suspected of abandonment or
non-running storage (maybe still do.) Although I don't know how
Ontario does it.
And then, she complained about not getting a
last-minute chance to jump-start for a dead battery. Why didn't
she get the jump-start during the three-day notice period?
That woman had a 19-year-old son living with her. So she's old
enough to know about this stuff.
(Years ago, when I got my SF warning sticker, I just grumbled a
bit, got in the car, and moved it around to the other side of the
park. It wasn't rocket science.)
The article about the Ontario seizures included a cop pointing
out another vehicle parked nearby, that lacked an engine or
transmission. And thus was obviously in violation of the "public
roadway" laws about public parking versus private storage.
Although, of course, the less usual concept of a motor vehicle is
that you really can drive around, with no registration, no
inspection, no tax, no speed limits, etc, on private property.
And I'm fairly sure that you can even do so while drunk.
But, the homeless folks in the article were on the more
restrictive side of the public/private line.
And, anyway, I notice that you didn't mention the issue of yearly
taxes on "homes, land." Meaning real estate. And I am sure that
you know exactly what can happen if you fail to pay that gubmint
rent on "your" house or condo.
After which, it would be kind of difficult to drive or park your
unregistered vehicle on that formerly "private property" that got
seized by the gubmint to which you failed to pay the rent... uh,
I mean, "property tax."
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> In article <9WuPj.9655$aq4.8053@trnddc02>,
>
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > has nothing to do with taking care of anything and everything to do with the
> > fact
> > that the bonds needed to run your local govt/school system are secured by
> > the value
> > of your house. that's what happens when you vote to accept a bond
> > initiative. a
> > chunk of your taxes goes to pay the interest on these muni bonds. if you
> > don't pay them,
> > your home WILL BE SOLD at a tax auction. as long as your property can be
> > taxed,
> > you never really own it, the local govt does.
>
> This is drifting way off topic. Your view is a very paranoid
> point of view. Try saying it the other way around...as long as
> you pay your property taxes, your really do own your property.
>
So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your house and land
is already bought and paid for. Nice.
I wonder if they got clues from the mafia on this?
ulti...@hotmail.com
> In article <tqrPj.3024$Mm1.2540@trndny07>,
>
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > anyone who thinks they "own" their homes, land, cars, motorhomes, boats, etc
> > should find out just what happens when they don't pay their propery taxes on
> > these thing. you'll find out
> > really quickly just who "owns" your property.
>
> Is that some kind of surprise to you? Even kindergarden kids know
> that if you don't take care of your toys, they get taken away from
> you.
>
Usually, you are not forced to pay rent on toys you already own or
else they get taken from you by men with guns and who hold the keys to
a dungeon.
John A. Weeks III
<7f449554-03de-4058...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
ulti...@hotmail.com wrote:
If you are thinking that you are going to have a modern government
without having any taxes to pay, then you really are from a different
planet. Welcome to reality--the only sure things are death & taxes.
krw
@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, ulti...@hotmail.com says...
It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered. I suppose you
don't believe in paying the power bill either.
> I wonder if they got clues from the mafia on this?
Likely the other way around, but...
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ulti...@hotmail.com
> In article <94077e3d-478e-440b-99ed-2ec7386c8c91
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 5:44 pm, "John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> > > In article <9WuPj.9655$aq4.8053@trnddc02>,
>
> > > "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > has nothing to do with taking care of anything and everything to do with the
> > > > fact
> > > > that the bonds needed to run your local govt/school system are secured by
> > > > the value
> > > > of your house. that's what happens when you vote to accept a bond
> > > > initiative. a
> > > > chunk of your taxes goes to pay the interest on these muni bonds. if you
> > > > don't pay them,
> > > > your home WILL BE SOLD at a tax auction. as long as your property can be
> > > > taxed,
> > > > you never really own it, the local govt does.
>
> > > This is drifting way off topic. Your view is a very paranoid
> > > point of view. Try saying it the other way around...as long as
> > > you pay your property taxes, your really do own your property.
>
> > So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your house and land
> > is already bought and paid for. Nice.
>
> It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered. I suppose you
> don't believe in paying the power bill either.
>
If you don';t pay the power bill, they don't take your house away.
Sorry, not comparable at all.
John A. Weeks III
<ca4532c7-04b2-40d8...@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
ulti...@hotmail.com wrote:
I live in a townhouse with a home owners association. If I don't
pay for the lawn mowing (in the form of monthly dues), the HOA can
foreclose on my house. So, there is an example where not paying a
bill can cause you house to be taken away.
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> In article
snip
>> > > So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your house and land
>> > > is already bought and paid for. Nice.
>> >
>> > It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered. I suppose you
>> > don't believe in paying the power bill either.
>> >
>>
>> If you don';t pay the power bill, they don't take your house away.
>> Sorry, not comparable at all.
>
> I live in a townhouse with a home owners association. If I don't
> pay for the lawn mowing (in the form of monthly dues), the HOA can
> foreclose on my house. So, there is an example where not paying a
> bill can cause you house to be taken away.
foreclose or place a lien on it?
John A. Weeks III
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Here in MN, we can foreclose on HOA managed units that are behind
in paying dues. We typically to use liens because the typical unit
is mortgaged to the hilt. We do lose a lot, however, by going to
a lien because state law says that we cannot enforce a lien for
dues that are due during the redemption period.
Rod Speed
>> krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzz> wrote
>>> ulti...@hotmail.com wrote>>>>> AllEmailDeletedImmediately <der...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> has nothing to do with taking care of anything and everything to
>>>>>> do with the fact that the bonds needed to run your local govt/school
>>>>>> system are secured by the value of your house. that's what happens
>>>>>> when you vote to accept a bond initiative. a chunk of your taxes goes
>>>>>> to pay the interest on these muni bonds. if you don't pay them, your
>>>>>> home WILL BE SOLD at a tax auction. as long as your property
>>>>>> can be taxed, you never really own it, the local govt does.
>>>>> This is drifting way off topic. Your view is a very paranoid
>>>>> point of view. Try saying it the other way around...as long as
>>>>> you pay your property taxes, your really do own your property.
>>>> So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your
>>>> house and land is already bought and paid for. Nice.
>>> It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered.
>>> I suppose you don't believe in paying the power bill either.
>> If you don';t pay the power bill, they don't take your house away.
>> Sorry, not comparable at all.
> I live in a townhouse with a home owners association.
More fool you.
> If I don't pay for the lawn mowing (in the form of
> monthly dues), the HOA can foreclose on my house.
More fool you.
> So, there is an example where not paying a
> bill can cause you house to be taken away.
Only for those stupid enough to get themselves into that sort of terminally stupid situation.
Anyone else with a clue aint that stupid.
Rod Speed
> AllEmailDeletedImmediately <der...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> John A. Weeks III <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote
>>>>>> So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your
>>>>>> house and land is already bought and paid for. Nice.
>>>>> It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered.
>>>>> I suppose you don't believe in paying the power bill either.
>>>> If you don';t pay the power bill, they don't take your house away.
>>>> Sorry, not comparable at all.
>>> I live in a townhouse with a home owners association. If I don't
>>> pay for the lawn mowing (in the form of monthly dues), the HOA
>>> can foreclose on my house. So, there is an example where not
>>> paying a bill can cause you house to be taken away.
>> foreclose or place a lien on it?
> Here in MN, we can foreclose on HOA managed units that are behind in paying dues.
And only a fool would be stupid enough to buy a HOA managed unit in that state.
You qualify.
> We typically to use liens because the typical unit is mortgaged to the hilt.
> We do lose a lot, however, by going to a lien because state law says that
> we cannot enforce a lien for dues that are due during the redemption period.
You get into stupid situations like that, you get to wear the downsides.
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"John A. Weeks III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote in message
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> In article <%X4Qj.7411$XY1.4930@trndny03>,
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "John A. Weeks III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote in message
>> news:john-DEE8A4.1...@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
>> > In article
>> snip
>> >> > > So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your house and
>> >> > > land
>> >> > > is already bought and paid for. Nice.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered. I suppose you
>> >> > don't believe in paying the power bill either.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> If you don';t pay the power bill, they don't take your house away.
>> >> Sorry, not comparable at all.
>> >
>> > I live in a townhouse with a home owners association. If I don't
>> > pay for the lawn mowing (in the form of monthly dues), the HOA can
>> > foreclose on my house. So, there is an example where not paying a
>> > bill can cause you house to be taken away.
>>
i'd say there's quite a difference between a govt agency and one that you
voluntarily turned over foreclosure rights to by signing on the dotted line.
ulti...@hotmail.com
> In article <%X4Qj.7411$XY1.4930@trndny03>,
>
>
>
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >news:john-DEE8A4.1...@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> > > In article
> > snip
> > >> > > So you have to keep paying someone rent, even if your house and land
> > >> > > is already bought and paid for. Nice.
>
> > >> > It's not rent. It's payment for services rendered. I suppose you
> > >> > don't believe in paying the power bill either.
>
> > >> If you don';t pay the power bill, they don't take your house away.
> > >> Sorry, not comparable at all.
>
> > > I live in a townhouse with a home owners association. If I don't
> > > pay for the lawn mowing (in the form of monthly dues), the HOA can
> > > foreclose on my house. So, there is an example where not paying a
> > > bill can cause you house to be taken away.
>
> > foreclose or place a lien on it?
>
> Here in MN, we can foreclose on HOA managed units that are behind
> in paying dues. We typically to use liens because the typical unit
> is mortgaged to the hilt. We do lose a lot, however, by going to
> a lien because state law says that we cannot enforce a lien for
> dues that are due during the redemption period.
>
Best solution to that problem is to not move into a property
controlled by knitpicking nazis who scream about what shade of white
your house is painted.
RodSpeed,_cashflow_and_patience_is_the_game_now
wrote:
>
> Fuck the pig who took the woman's only home away and on top of that
> made a snide remark. It's "officers" like him that make people hate
> the police and good cops end up taking shit for it..
It is a very bad feeling you have when you have nowhere to go and may
have to ask strangers for help, either monetarily or morale-wise. The
times I have been to the inland empire, all I can say is that
California is unto itself. Smug as it is, its people are very fragile
and have choices to live elsewhere if a helping hand cares. I wish I
could get the governator to just make a visit to camp ontario and have
a concert for its benefits. I'll donate a dollar for this lady to get
a life.
clams_casino
> Who the fuck told them to grab 100,000s of
>acers?
>
>
I hate it when I can't get any acers.
Larrybud
>> behind in paying dues. We typically to use liens because the
>> typical unit is mortgaged to the hilt. We do lose a lot,
>> however, by going to a lien because state law says that we
>> cannot enforce a lien for dues that are due during the
>> redemption period.
>>
>
> Best solution to that problem is to not move into a property
> controlled by knitpicking nazis who scream about what shade of
> white your house is painted.
True, but I can't think of one new development in my area (S.E.
Michigan, Detroit Burbs) that aren't HOA controlled. So unless you
can afford to buy in some of the older burbs (which are fairly
expensive), or live an hour away from where you work, there's not
much choice.