Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
Douhe...@gmail.com
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.
Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.
I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.
Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.
In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.
Cheers
bill allemann
wall at a 45 deg angle. They are cheap and in every hardware store, and
hold much more than you might think.
Do not use the adhesive products. They leave a nasty residue, and will
probably cause the loss of some damage deposit.
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George
you pull that is supposed to release them. I had someone who rented an
apartment of mine and used them all over the place. When they moved out
they tried to release them and only one came off cleanly. On the others
the adhesive had penetrated into the drywall paper.
You might also check if your lease allows you to "fix things up".
hchi...@hotmail.com
A 1" x 2" frame with a pegboard/cork/fabric insert could be wedged
between floor and ceiling using furniture leveling bolts. Stuff hung
on it would leave no marks at all on the drywall behind it.
RickH
Any hangar that makes a hole is better than an adhesive hangar, a
hangar hole is very easily repaired later with single wipe of drywall
compound. While an adhesive hangar, when removed, will tear the
drywall paper off and that is very hard to hide/fix later when you are
moving out. Use the hangar that is appropriate for the weight of the
object. For example if the painting has a glass front, use a molly
bolt or mushrooming bolt. If a small picture is light then just use a
plastic anchor and screw. If its real light use a thumbtack or brad
hook.
Chris Friesen
> I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
> some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
> (6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.
I suggest either of these:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=50402&cat=3,40914,50630&ap=1
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=52367&cat=3,40914,50630&ap=1
The first comes in a range of sizes and uses finishing nails to support
up to 75lb, the second is a single item that supports up to 50lb.
As others have said...small puncture marks are easily hidden, but
adhesive-based methods are hard to fix.
Chris
Douhe...@gmail.com
I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
stuff and I don't need that much holding power.
When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
manufacturer.
Btw, is it just me or is there a real lack of furnishing books for
renters? Many of us will live in rented accommodations for years and
may want to tweak them a bit.
Yet, all the books I've seen assume:
a) you have tons of space to play with.
b) you own the place so you can rip it apart.
c) you have tons of money so that, in addition to a. and b. you can
afford super-duper custom furniture if you do want to save on space.
I had Sarah Susanka's Not So Big House book and its floor plans looked
more like Not So Small House to me. Still, she at least tries to be
realistic.
Norminn
> Thanks for all the tips so far, this is quite helpful.
>
> I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
> Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
> stuff and I don't need that much holding power.
>
> When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
> i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
> on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
> I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
> out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
> manufacturer.
Adhesive hangers are not reliable and are likely to damage the wall.
Scotch Tape is a bad idea - difficult to get the adhesive off. For
plain posters and small picture frames (up to 8x10), straight pins work
very nicely. Get them at fabric store or where they sell sewing
supplies. They sometimes bend, but if driven in at an angle will hold
nicely and leave very little defect when removed.
willshak
These have been around for a long time before Hercules hooks.
http://www.dlawlesshardware.com/pihasuhowiha.html
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Ward Abbott
>I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
>building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.
Buy yourself a pint/quart of the exact color. Buy some spackle and
mix the paint into the spackle for a perfect color match. Will be
worth it when you move....or decide to move a painting.
Bob Young
hang the majority of stuff I want to hang on those and do not fill the
walls with lots of holes.
In one case I lean the screen right against the wall and in another case
I have a screen that goes around a corner from a hallway to the living
room. I am a pack rat and so it is sort of like how the display some
items in some stores.
You can find used ones in a resale shop and cover them with any
material you want,with a staple gun: neutral to matching.
willshak
> Douhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks for all the tips so far, this is quite helpful.
>>
>> I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
>> Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
>> stuff and I don't need that much holding power.
>>
>> When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
>> i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
>> on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
>> I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
>> out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
>> manufacturer.
>
> Adhesive hangers are not reliable and are likely to damage the wall.
> Scotch Tape is a bad idea - difficult to get the adhesive off. For
> plain posters and small picture frames (up to 8x10), straight pins
> work very nicely. Get them at fabric store or where they sell sewing
> supplies. They sometimes bend, but if driven in at an angle will hold
> nicely and leave very little defect when removed.
Then there's the old reliable Thumb tacks.
>>
>> Btw, is it just me or is there a real lack of furnishing books for
>> renters? Many of us will live in rented accommodations for years and
>> may want to tweak them a bit.
>>
>> Yet, all the books I've seen assume:
>>
>> a) you have tons of space to play with.
>> b) you own the place so you can rip it apart.
>> c) you have tons of money so that, in addition to a. and b. you can
>> afford super-duper custom furniture if you do want to save on space.
>>
>> I had Sarah Susanka's Not So Big House book and its floor plans looked
>> more like Not So Small House to me. Still, she at least tries to be
>> realistic.
>>
Barbara R
Hope someone has tried them.
Barbara
Shawn Hirn
Douhe...@gmail.com wrote:
Just use some nails and screws, then buy a can of spackle and a putty
knife when you get ready to move and patch the holes. Really. Its no big
deal.
Logan Shaw
> I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
> some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
> (6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.
>
> Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
> fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
> So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.
I don't know that you have to minor nail holes in the walls when you
leave. There's such a thing as normal wear and tear, and I'm fairly
sure that hanging things on the walls is part of that. It might very
well be that provided you don't leave any holes bigger than a small
nail, you wouldn't really need to do anything to repair it.
I suppose it's possible that a particularly picky landlord would try
to ding you for that, but as I understand it, that would be fairly
non-standard in the industry.
- Logan
Al Bundy
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The place will probably be repainted anyway depending on how long you
live there. Yea, you're renting. But you are allowed to live there ya
know. Part of that is hanging things on the wall, walking on floors
wearing them, using the crapper, etc. All is just a matter of reasonable
care.
Holes in walls are indeed easily fixed if you have the touchup paint.
Tapes, although not recommended for hanging anything other than a poster
maybe, do leave sticky crap on the wall. That is EASILY removed with Goo
Gone available just about anywhere.
jJim McLaughlin
SNIP HAPPENS
> I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
> building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.
>
Buy the paints *now*. Buy a quart of each that you need. Dollars to
doughnuts in
three years when you move the formulations for colors you have so carefully
written down will have changed and the same color, by the same
manufacturer, will
no longer be available.
Don't open the paints, just store them, preferably upside down so the
can lids are
on the bottom.
And realize that when you do go to do touchups, the paints on the wall
will have
faded and oxidized a bit, and while the paints you stored will be the
closest match
you can get, the match will not be exact due to the ageing of the paint
on the walls.
pc
> Thanks for all the tips so far, this is quite helpful.
>
> I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
> Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
> stuff and I don't need that much holding power.
>
> When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
> i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
> on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
> I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
> out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
> manufacturer.
>
Many months ago, I was channel surfing and ended up on HSN networks..for
lack of any other drivel to watch.
They had an interesting hook for just this situation. It was a long
thin wire twisted just so. You put it through the wall, turned it so it
would hold against the back of the drywall. Then you could hang heavy
objects on it. It seemed like a very simple, eloquent solution picture
hanging.
I just searched it out and below is the link. I have no idea how well
they work. But, if you buy them, I'd love to hear what your opinion is.
..PC
Mark
the place was occupied more than 6 mo or a year, and minor damage is
expected. Go ahead and use nails or screws - carefully.
If there is wallpaper, I've used a utility knife and cut a small 'flap'
where I was putting the nail. Fold the paper back carefully so you don't
damage it, and put your nail or screw only thru the drywall. When you
remove the nail, patch the whole carefully with spackle (I've even used
white toothpaste to fill small whole -dries pretty hard and doesn't shrink
all that much!). A dab of glue under the flap of wallpaper and you're as
good as new.
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stay 7 to 10 years and the paint will have exceeded its rental
security deposit lifetime. Plus save moving expenses during that time
Shawn Hirn
jJim McLaughlin <jimm.cl...@comcast.com> wrote:
> Douhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> SNIP HAPPENS
> > I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
> > building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.
> >
> Buy the paints *now*. Buy a quart of each that you need. Dollars to
> doughnuts in
> three years when you move the formulations for colors you have so carefully
> written down will have changed and the same color, by the same
> manufacturer, will
> no longer be available.
The paint will have probably dried up in the can and the landlord will
likely repaint with recently purchased paint anyway upon the tenant
moving out. Really, this is no big deal. If the OP has doubts, just read
his lease or ask his landlord.