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clams_casino

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Oct 3, 2008, 10:54:14 AM10/3/08
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Derald wrote:

>Did you notice the way that cracker consummate bullshit artist redefined
>wealth redistribution as "fairness"? Unfortunately, he didn't explain
>what's "fair" about seizing the fruits of one person's labor and giving
>it to someone else for no particular reason.
>
>


Fully agree. It's amazing how Palin can tax the hell out of the out of
the oil companies and when that's not enough, bleed the federal coffer
for the rest to supply welfare checks to all the Alaskans.

Jeff

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Oct 3, 2008, 12:28:09 PM10/3/08
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Yes, thanks for pointing this out Derald. I've done a little researching:

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=7830279

Federal spending supports a third of all Alaskan jobs, according to the
Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Alaska
in Anchorage. Alaska's representatives in Washington, DC have a
hard-earned reputation for piping federal dollars back home. A proposed
$229m �Bridge to Nowhere�, connecting the town of Ketchikan to an
airport on an island with a population of 50, is the most notorious
boondoggle. But the state is paved with pork�from its half-empty
high-speed ferries to the $500,000 that the federally-funded Alaska
Fisheries Marketing Board gave to Alaska Airlines to paint a giant king
salmon on one of its aeroplanes. Citizens Against Government Waste, a
watchdog, calculates that Alaska guzzles more pork per head than any
other state.

Why is Washington so generous to Alaskans? It is not as if they have no
other source of cash. Alaska's oil wells allow the state to function
without levying an income tax. And the interest from a $34 billion
�Permanent Fund�, in which past oil receipts are stashed, gives every
Alaskan man, woman and child an annual handout, expected to be about
$1,000 this year.

Of course if you want the ultimate handout city of all America, you
need to look no further than Wasilla:

A sampling of the 14 earmarks, totaling $26.9 million, directed to the
city of Wasilla from 2000 through 2003. Sarah Palin was mayor from 1996
to 2002.

� $1.9 million for the Wasilla Intermodal Transit Project, to realign
rail and bus routes to increase use of public transit in the region.

� $500,000 for Kids Are People Inc., an emergency shelter for youths
transitioning out of juvenile detention facilities.

� $15 million for a rail project to connect Wasilla with Girdwood, the
home town of Sen. Ted Stevens (R).

� $1.75 million to upgrade emergency communications between authorities
at the Wasilla dispatch center.
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� $600,000 to upgrade bus stations.

� $900,000 to upgrade water and sewer facilities.

SOURCE: Taxpayers for Common Sense

I believe the current handout total for Wasilla is $84,000 for every
many woman and child. There were no earmarks befroe Palin ws mayor. No
paid lobbyists.

And don't forget that Palin took that 230 million for the bridge to
nowhere.

Seems that just like Bush, Palin is a socialist when it comes to her
friends.

Jeff


Dennis

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Oct 3, 2008, 1:49:39 PM10/3/08
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:40:41 -0500, Derald <der...@invalid.net> wrote:

>Did you notice the way that cracker consummate bullshit artist redefined
>wealth redistribution as "fairness"? Unfortunately, he didn't explain
>what's "fair" about seizing the fruits of one person's labor and giving

>it to someone else for no particular reason. I guess that's the new
>"sharing". Cynical asshole demagogic politicians have been pandering to
>self-pity and ignorance for the past fifty years by deliberate misuse of
>language. Boy, talk about buying votes from the mentally deficient with
>other peoples' money.... The predictable and undeniable result, so far,
>has been the perpetuation of a "feed-me" class who believes itself to be
>deserving of a minimum standard of living and minimum level of services
>by virtue simply of breathing, occupying space and making turds. What a
>world.

What I can't believe is that both sides are still campaigning on the
old standards like "tax cuts" and "reforming health care". With the
recent events (and those imminently pending) those items are
undeniably off the table, for at least the next four years.

What's the deal? Haven't their campaign lackeys had enough time to
cobble together some other bullshit platforms to buy votes since the
Wall Street implosion hit? What a bunch of clowns!


Dennis (evil)
--
An inherent weakness of a pure democracy is that half
the voters are below average intelligence.

hchi...@hotmail.com

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Oct 4, 2008, 1:29:00 AM10/4/08
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:49:39 -0700, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>What's the deal? Haven't their campaign lackeys had enough time to
>cobble together some other bullshit platforms to buy votes since the
>Wall Street implosion hit? What a bunch of clowns!

Sondheim on Soundbyte. Send in the clowns. Don't bother, they're
here.

That flushing sound you heard was the Constitution going down the
toilet.

Vic Smith

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:08:53 PM10/4/08
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:49:39 -0700, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:40:41 -0500, Derald <der...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>Did you notice the way that cracker consummate bullshit artist redefined
>>wealth redistribution as "fairness"? Unfortunately, he didn't explain
>>what's "fair" about seizing the fruits of one person's labor and giving
>>it to someone else for no particular reason. I guess that's the new
>>"sharing". Cynical asshole demagogic politicians have been pandering to
>>self-pity and ignorance for the past fifty years by deliberate misuse of
>>language. Boy, talk about buying votes from the mentally deficient with
>>other peoples' money.... The predictable and undeniable result, so far,
>>has been the perpetuation of a "feed-me" class who believes itself to be
>>deserving of a minimum standard of living and minimum level of services
>>by virtue simply of breathing, occupying space and making turds. What a
>>world.
>
>What I can't believe is that both sides are still campaigning on the
>old standards like "tax cuts" and "reforming health care". With the
>recent events (and those imminently pending) those items are
>undeniably off the table, for at least the next four years.
>

Why are they off the table?
Bail out Wall Street with non-existant money isn't off the table.
Conduct the Iraq war with non-existant money isn't off the table.
You're not making sense.

--Vic

Rod Speed

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Oct 4, 2008, 1:59:29 PM10/4/08
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Vic Smith <thismaila...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:49:39 -0700, Dennis <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:40:41 -0500, Derald <der...@invalid.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you notice the way that cracker consummate bullshit artist
>>> redefined wealth redistribution as "fairness"? Unfortunately, he
>>> didn't explain what's "fair" about seizing the fruits of one
>>> person's labor and giving it to someone else for no particular
>>> reason. I guess that's the new "sharing". Cynical asshole demagogic
>>> politicians have been pandering to self-pity and ignorance for the
>>> past fifty years by deliberate misuse of language. Boy, talk about
>>> buying votes from the mentally deficient with other peoples'
>>> money.... The predictable and undeniable result, so far, has been
>>> the perpetuation of a "feed-me" class who believes itself to be
>>> deserving of a minimum standard of living and minimum level of
>>> services by virtue simply of breathing, occupying space and making
>>> turds. What a world.
>>
>> What I can't believe is that both sides are still campaigning on the
>> old standards like "tax cuts" and "reforming health care". With the
>> recent events (and those imminently pending) those items are
>> undeniably off the table, for at least the next four years.

> Why are they off the table?

Because they have more pressing matters to deal with and those can be deferred.

> Bail out Wall Street with non-existant money isn't off the table.

Because they are attempting to avoid another great depression or worse.

> Conduct the Iraq war with non-existant money isn't off the table.

Because they havent worked out how to extricate themselves yet.

timeOday

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Oct 4, 2008, 11:29:10 PM10/4/08
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Derald wrote:
> Did you notice the way that cracker consummate bullshit artist redefined
> wealth redistribution as "fairness"? Unfortunately, he didn't explain
> what's "fair" about seizing the fruits of one person's labor and giving
> it to someone else for no particular reason.

You must be referring to the Wall Street bailout? Or did you mean the
auto maker bailout?

America taxes wages (the fruits of labor) more than capital gains (a
reward for already having wealth). Now THAT is wealth redistribution.

Rod Speed

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Oct 5, 2008, 1:44:33 AM10/5/08
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There is a hell of a lot more taxed than just those two.

> Now THAT is wealth redistribution.

Nope. Nothing like wealth with most wage slaves and it mostly doesnt go to those who pay capital gains tax anyway.


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