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PaPaPeng

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Feb 19, 2008, 1:00:38 AM2/19/08
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I drink a popular Oriental beverage that has instant coffee, sugar and
a whitener-thickener in a pack. I heat up a mug of hot water in the
microwave or I heat up two cups in a kettle, two cups because I need
to submerge the element. Somehow I get the feeling that the microwave
uses more energy/watts. Any idea if this is so?

Anthony Matonak

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Feb 19, 2008, 2:10:42 AM2/19/08
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I don't have an answer for you except to say that it probably doesn't
matter. Even if one of them uses twice, or three times, the energy
as the other, they're both still using so little energy that they
won't hardly show on a power bill.

Myself, if I were to drink hot beverages, I would probably go with
the microwave because it's more convenient and there's no kettle
to mess with.

Perhaps you should be looking into solar cookers instead?

Anthony

Al Bundy

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Feb 19, 2008, 7:29:53 AM2/19/08
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The electric kettle is much closer to 100% efficient than the
microwave, but you are heating twice as much water. Therefore, the
microwave turns out to be cheaper in the end. Neither cost very much.
The microwave would be less than 1¢ for the three minutes to boil a
cup. Amusing perhaps to consider, but not worth doing anything about.

Evelyn C. Leeper

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Feb 19, 2008, 9:16:49 AM2/19/08
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Speaking of which, does anyone know if they still sell those immersion
heaters (the kind that are just a coil, a cord, and a plug) that you
could put in a cup of water to boil it? They were popular in the 1960s
and 1970s, but I can't recall seeing them for a while.

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Evelyn C. Leeper
Heretic: someone who disagrees with you about
something neither of you knows anything about.


Chloe

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Feb 19, 2008, 9:50:24 AM2/19/08
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"Evelyn C. Leeper" <ele...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> Speaking of which, does anyone know if they still sell those immersion
> heaters (the kind that are just a coil, a cord, and a plug) that you could
> put in a cup of water to boil it? They were popular in the 1960s and
> 1970s, but I can't recall seeing them for a while.

Sure. See

http://www.goinginstyle.com/gis/Heater-Immersion-for-Water-P2778.aspx

although you can probably buy one locally for less. They're excellent for
making coffee while travelling. I quit carrying my own heater, mug, and
instant coffee when they started putting the little brewpots in hotel rooms.
But after seeing some undercover news stories lately about the way the
housekeeping staff cleans those things (i.e., wiping inside of pot out with
a rag they'd just used on the toilet, etc.) I think I'll be digging my
heater out and using it again.


wat...@moog.netaxs.com

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Feb 19, 2008, 4:28:10 PM2/19/08
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In article <47bae4c2$0$15191$607e...@cv.net>, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
> PaPaPeng wrote:
>>
>> I drink a popular Oriental beverage that has instant coffee, sugar and
>> a whitener-thickener in a pack. I heat up a mug of hot water in the
>> microwave or I heat up two cups in a kettle, two cups because I need
>> to submerge the element. Somehow I get the feeling that the microwave
>> uses more energy/watts. Any idea if this is so?
>
> Speaking of which, does anyone know if they still sell those immersion
> heaters (the kind that are just a coil, a cord, and a plug) that you
> could put in a cup of water to boil it? They were popular in the 1960s
> and 1970s, but I can't recall seeing them for a while.
>

I don't think I've been in any dollar store in the last 5 years that _didn't_
have them :-)

W.


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R. Descartes

Al Bundy

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Feb 19, 2008, 5:08:57 PM2/19/08
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On Feb 19, 9:50 am, "Chloe" <justsa...@spam.com> wrote:
> "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote in messagenews:47bae4c2$0$15191$607e...@cv.net...

Aw, don't feel so squeamish. Heat kills many germs. Most if the
illnesses are curable too.
PS. There's no way those hotel rooms will ever be clean.

Jeff

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Feb 20, 2008, 12:05:06 PM2/20/08
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That sounds right to me. If you really want to frugal, get an
immersion heater as you would be close to 100%.

A pound of water (16 oz) will take 140 BTUs to raise it's temp from 60F
to 200F, about .04 kWhr. Even at 25 cents/kWhr that is just 1 cent.

Jeff

Seerialmom

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Feb 20, 2008, 12:51:53 PM2/20/08
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If you were to find them I'd think they'd be in older hardware stores
or garage sales.

The Real Bev

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Feb 20, 2008, 5:57:11 PM2/20/08
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Jeff wrote:

> That sounds right to me. If you really want to frugal, get an
> immersion heater as you would be close to 100%.

I had one of those that plugged into the cigarette lighter hole. It
corroded and died within weeks when I actually started using it on a
trip. Moreover, the cord was so much heavier than the unit itself that
the cord knocked the [filled] cup over unless you held onto it.

> A pound of water (16 oz) will take 140 BTUs to raise it's temp from 60F
> to 200F, about .04 kWhr. Even at 25 cents/kWhr that is just 1 cent.

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Cheers, Bev
======================================================
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Jeff

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Feb 20, 2008, 8:39:06 PM2/20/08
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The Real Bev wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> That sounds right to me. If you really want to frugal, get an
>> immersion heater as you would be close to 100%.
>
> I had one of those that plugged into the cigarette lighter hole. It
> corroded and died within weeks when I actually started using it on a
> trip. Moreover, the cord was so much heavier than the unit itself that
> the cord knocked the [filled] cup over unless you held onto it.

I think the AC powered are much better. Because the voltage is 10
times the current is 1/10. You need a heavy cord and good contacts to
conduct large amounts of current. Of course, that wouldn't help much on
the road!

I used an immersion heater when I lived in a dorm and only had trouble
when I didn't unplug it when it was not immersed. You only buy so many
new heaters before you remember that.

Frankly I don't thinks it's worth the fraction of a penny you would
save with an immersion heater. But it is frugal!

Jeff

Stormin Mormon

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Feb 24, 2008, 9:16:26 PM2/24/08
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The mic has a light, fan, and turntable. Now, which is more energy
efficient? I'd have no way to know. But I suspect the difference isn't very
much.

--
Christopher A. Young
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