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The Real Bev

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Nov 23, 2007, 7:40:59 PM11/23/07
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Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend
membership special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person
thereafter. Spouse gets the same deal but at $500/3 years. The place has
been there for at least 5 years, looks decent, and we are able to go at
off-hours. I figure we can get the same rate after this weekend just by
being willing to walk, but I'm wondering if we can do any better price-wise.
A 24-hour facility several miles away also has a pool and spa if we feel
like riding our bicycles there.

We're only interested in the machines, not the classes --we deal with
aerobics on our own. I looked for reviews in misc.fitness.weights and
elsewhere and the biggest bitches seemed to be about the slobs who sweat all
over the machines and didn't wipe them off -- a requirement of the
establishment which is apparently not stringently enforced at some facilities.

Anybody have opinions?

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Nov 23, 2007, 8:54:33 PM11/23/07
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The Real Bev <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend
> membership special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person
> thereafter. Spouse gets the same deal but at $500/3 years. The
> place has been there for at least 5 years, looks decent, and we are
> able to go at off-hours. I figure we can get the same rate after
> this weekend just by being willing to walk, but I'm wondering if we
> can do any better price-wise. A 24-hour facility several miles away
> also has a pool and spa if we feel like riding our bicycles there.
>
> We're only interested in the machines, not the classes --we deal with
> aerobics on our own. I looked for reviews in misc.fitness.weights and
> elsewhere and the biggest bitches seemed to be about the slobs who
> sweat all over the machines and didn't wipe them off -- a requirement
> of the establishment which is apparently not stringently enforced at
> some facilities.
> Anybody have opinions?

I dont bother with machines at all, just walk around and eat sensibly instead.

Much cheaper, but I guess you can claim that its a tad more
risky if you say end up with say a heart attack on the street
instead of in a room like that or just trip over or sumfin.

There's always quite a few people around when I do it, first thing in the
morning, just after sunup, but before you get any sun shining on you so you
dont have to fart around with sunscreen etc, while its still cool in summer.


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Nov 23, 2007, 11:17:39 PM11/23/07
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The Real Bev wrote:
> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend
> membership special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person
> thereafter. Spouse gets the same deal but at $500/3 years. The place
> has been there for at least 5 years, looks decent, and we are able to go
> at off-hours. I figure we can get the same rate after this weekend just
> by being willing to walk, but I'm wondering if we can do any better
> price-wise. A 24-hour facility several miles away also has a pool and
> spa if we feel like riding our bicycles there.

The price per month works out to be very good, but there's that huge
initial outlay. The one near me offered $5/week when the first opened,
with no initial payment, good only at that one location.

The down side is that they're always trying to sell you some extra
services, from people that are less than expert in the subject.

If the plan they're offering lets you use any location then it's a good
deal.

Don K

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Nov 23, 2007, 11:27:27 PM11/23/07
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"The Real Bev" <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend membership
> special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person thereafter.

So in 3 years, they will be pulling in 56 cents a week from you.
That will certainly put you in the drivers seat. With that kind of customer
clout, you can be sure they're going to want to keep you happy.

Don


The Real Bev

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Nov 24, 2007, 12:34:09 AM11/24/07
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Don K wrote:

> "The Real Bev" <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend membership
>> special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person thereafter.
>
> So in 3 years, they will be pulling in 56 cents a week from you.
> That will certainly put you in the drivers seat. With that kind of customer
> clout, you can be sure they're going to want to keep you happy.

I think they know that most people run out of enthusiasm before they're
absorbed all the services they've paid for. It's easy enough to do weights
at home if you have lots of room, but without that the overhead in setting
up each exercise for each person is a real pain. I know, we tried it for a
while. Free weights are clearly the frugal way to go (it's not impossible
to find someone willing to pay you to take theirs away), provided you have a
good place to use them.

I don't need "them" to make me happy, just access. Showers and a locker are
nice, but aren't all that necessary. I own towels and know how to use them.
They HAVE to have toilets, and I would imagine that the health department
would be interested if they aren't up to ordinary standards of sanitation.

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Don K

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Nov 24, 2007, 7:44:55 AM11/24/07
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600 bucks for 3 years seems like a reasonable rate for a storefront-type gym,
but I assume they want that money up front, so you're really buying into the
viability of the business.

It seems somewhat like a pyramid scheme to me. The business is sustainable
only as long as they continue to find new customers to pay a premium to cover
actual operating costs for everyone. If they don't, they will close and move on
in a heartbeat, and the promised 56 cent weekly membership never materialize.

As a point of reference, I pay $33 each month for a 24-hour gym that provides
indoor pool, handball, basketball, roller rink, free coffee, tea, towels, as well
as the usual gym stuff. It's a 2-year commitment, but there was no buy-in.
It's payable by the month, so if they close down, I stop paying.

A toilet can get pretty disgusting before the health department steps in (so to speak).
Another concern is the potential of picking up that super bacteria/bug from shared gym
equipment. I don't think a casual wipedown cuts it. I just use the pool and have
my own gym equipment from freecycle.

Don


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Nov 25, 2007, 1:22:29 PM11/25/07
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"Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote in message
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we pay 10/mon each (initial 50.00 ea setup/keytag fee). very basic, but we
don't need
a pool, tennis/squash/handball courts, basketball, roller rink, coffe, tea,
towels, etc.


imascot

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Nov 25, 2007, 3:39:49 PM11/25/07
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The Real Bev <bashley1...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> We're only interested in the machines, not the classes --we deal with
> aerobics on our own. I looked for reviews in misc.fitness.weights and
> elsewhere and the biggest bitches seemed to be about the slobs who
> sweat all over the machines and didn't wipe them off -- a requirement
> of the establishment which is apparently not stringently enforced at
> some facilities.
>

I'm not sure which machines you're interested in, nor what you have already tried, but we bought a
Weider 2 station/one weight stack home gym from Sears 7 years ago for $300. We also got a few
addons, like 5lb and 2.5lb weights to fine-tune the stack, a tricep rope, and we use free weights as
well. We variously bought these from Ebay, online sites and a local fitness shop. The Weider was
short enough to fit in our basement--some of the expensive ones are tall. It's been a good investment,
no excuses like bad weather to prevent us from working out, and never a line. These machines are
usually available used, I see a lot of them on Craigslist. We also have a stepper and a dip station. Of
course, if you don't have room, this won't work.

J.

Shaun Eli

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Nov 25, 2007, 3:47:47 PM11/25/07
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Gyms make their money on people who join and don't go. People who go
every day and clog up the place are actually their worst customers.
There's a limited capacity in a gym, especially in the morning, at
lunch time and right after working hours, and if it's too busy people
don't just stop going, they don't renew. And new people may not join
when they see how crowded it gets.

The best thing to happen to gyms was the ability to charge a credit
card monthly or direct-debit your checking account-- because when
faced with a monthly charge many people just ignore it, whereas when
faced with an annual renewal some people look at the cost and don't
renew.

If you're sure you'll go (I know, everybody says they will) then the
risk is-- will they stay in business? And that's really something you
have no way of knowing short of reviewing their financial statements.
And even if that one store is doing well, if it's a centralized
business and not an individually-owned franchise, the company could
still go out of business.

In NY there's some sort of law about gyms having to put money into a
fund for customers of places that go broke, but I'm not sure how it
works.

Shaun Eli
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The Real Bev

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Nov 30, 2007, 11:41:50 PM11/30/07
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imascot wrote:

> I'm not sure which machines you're interested in, nor what you have
> already tried,

We belonged to a gym that shut down just after we signed up, but we got a
couple of months' use out of it. We used pretty much all the machines, the
hot tub, the steam room and the pool. And then I went back to work...

> but we bought a Weider 2 station/one weight stack home gym
> from Sears 7 years ago for $300. We also got a few addons, like 5lb and
> 2.5lb weights to fine-tune the stack, a tricep rope, and we use free
> weights as well. We variously bought these from Ebay, online sites and a
> local fitness shop. The Weider was short enough to fit in our
> basement--some of the expensive ones are tall. It's been a good
> investment, no excuses like bad weather to prevent us from working out,
> and never a line. These machines are usually available used, I see a lot
> of them on Craigslist. We also have a stepper and a dip station. Of
> course, if you don't have room, this won't work.

Under certain conditions people will actually pay you to carry them away.
We were getting rid of a lot of those cheesy plastic-covered concrete
weights -- I put them out by the curb and a guy came by within an hour and
filled his trunk. Space IS the problem, though. Really. I have to move
stuff away to use my mouse :-)

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