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Green Xenon [Radium]

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Jan 15, 2008, 1:26:38 PM1/15/08
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Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.

Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
fucking stupid:

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg -- this ad depicts the 50s
or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
stinkin car insurance

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-b0wQzQ-0 -- asshole celebrity
"mashed potatoes woohoo!" Howd ya like some mashed potatoes up your
stinky ass, you disheveled shithole?!

There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
there was no internet. That ad talks about some guy who went poor and
started hunting deer for food. It then shows that he somehow makes a lot
of money. There is critic in the background who says "I was initially
skeptical of this claim". This ad then show the main character going
onto a computer [!!!!!!!] and the internet [what the fuck!!!!] and
changing his car insurance to Geico. WTFuck is wrong with Geico, they
were depicting a time when computers and internet were absent yet they
show someone in that time going onto a PC and accessing the net! This is
so fucking stupid and annoying! It is blatantly idiotic and pisses me
off. I feel like burning those involved in producing that advertisement.
I want to torch their skin until it blisters into white foam. Stupid
assholish sick fucks deserve to burn in hell for the annoyance they cause.

I'd rather watch their old cavemen ads for an hour than a second of the
ads I mentioned above.

I lay a curse on those geico fuckheads:

In your next incarnation you'll all be satan's bitches!

TomAl...@newshosting.com

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Jan 15, 2008, 5:59:31 PM1/15/08
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On 15-Jan-2008, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.

I'm just sick and tired of seeing the fuckin ads all the time.

John A. Weeks III

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In article <478d3ad3$0$28185$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
TomAl...@newshosting.com wrote:

Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
(1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
watch commercials do so by choice as a result.

-john-

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Joel Olson

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<TomAl...@newshosting.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 15-Jan-2008, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
>> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> I'm just sick and tired of seeing the fuckin ads all the time.
>

Maybe that's why they're more expensive than damn near anyone else.

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feeding the public a steady line of sacred bull. - Ralph Nader
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Green Xenon [Radium]

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Jan 15, 2008, 6:39:04 PM1/15/08
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John A. Weeks III wrote:
> In article <478d3ad3$0$28185$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> TomAl...@newshosting.com wrote:
>
>> On 15-Jan-2008, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>> I'm just sick and tired of seeing the fuckin ads all the time.
>
> Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
> (1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
> There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
> watch commercials do so by choice as a result.
>
> -john-
>

Not everyone has the luxury of being able to skip commercials. I am one
of these unfortunate ones. When I am watching an excellent show or movie
and it is interrupted by crap like those Geico ads, it really irritates me.

John A. Weeks III

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Jan 15, 2008, 6:55:46 PM1/15/08
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In article <478d4419$0$31787$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

> John A. Weeks III wrote:
> > In article <478d3ad3$0$28185$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > TomAl...@newshosting.com wrote:
> >
> >> On 15-Jan-2008, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
> >> I'm just sick and tired of seeing the fuckin ads all the time.
> >
> > Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
> > (1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
> > There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
> > watch commercials do so by choice as a result.
> >
> > -john-
> >
>
> Not everyone has the luxury of being able to skip commercials. I am one
> of these unfortunate ones. When I am watching an excellent show or movie
> and it is interrupted by crap like those Geico ads, it really irritates me.

I am so sorry that you are paralyzed and cannot move a single finger
to press a single button on the remote control to skip a commercial.
Or did I miss something in your posting and you are not paralyzed?

Anthony Matonak

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Jan 15, 2008, 7:07:08 PM1/15/08
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
> John A. Weeks III wrote:
...

>> Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
>> (1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
>> There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
>> watch commercials do so by choice as a result.
>
> Not everyone has the luxury of being able to skip commercials. I am one
> of these unfortunate ones. When I am watching an excellent show or movie
> and it is interrupted by crap like those Geico ads, it really irritates me.

It's still your choice to be irritated by the ads. You have many
choices and only one of them is to sit there and take it.

The best choice is simply to not watch TV. This is going to get
easier here in the United States since they won't be showing
any shows requiring writing.

If you have a computer that's fast enough (700Mhz?) you could spend
$25 or so for a TV card and turn it into your own personal video
recorder. This would let you skip commercials.

Netflix (or other DVD rentals) are another option. They put out a
lot of TV shows on DVD these days. Get together with a bunch of your
friends to circulate the videos and share the costs.

VCRs are another option. You can pick these up used pretty cheap
because no one wants them anymore. You can also pick up lots of
old VHS movies pretty cheap too. Heck, it's quite likely you can
find old VCRs and tapes for free.

Then there are books. These can be found for free at most libraries
and online at places like the Internet Archive and Project Gutenberg.
Libraries are increasingly carrying DVDs, books on tape and old time
radio shows also. If you have broadband then you can download and
watch TV, movies and radio shows on your computer.

Lastly, there is the age old option of pressing 'mute' on your
remote (supposing you had one), going to the bathroom during the
commercial breaks or going out to make a snack.

You can even combine these. Read a book during commercials. :)

Anthony

Unique

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Green Xenon [Radium] <gluc...@excite.com> wrote in message:
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Nice troll. :-)

I'll explain for the benefit of those who might be tempted to take what
you say seriously.

The "Chatty Cathy" commercial is satire aimed at those who remember the
doll. They also have one for Cabbage Patch dolls.
The "Little Richard" commercial is pretty annoying, but it is part of a
series of satirizing the idea of celebrity spokesmen.
The "Beverly Hillbillies" commerical is satire aimed at those who
remember the TV series. They also have one starring The Flintstones.

All of these commercials are aimed at one segment of the insurance
market, which also happens to be the most profitable for insurance
companies; folks aged 50+

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Green Xenon [Radium]

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Jan 15, 2008, 3:52:57 PM1/15/08
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Joel Olson

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There's also http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/programs/


Shawn Hirn

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Jan 15, 2008, 9:49:05 PM1/15/08
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In article <478cfadd$0$4952$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,

"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> fucking stupid:

Change channels, hit the fast forward button, or turn off your TV.
Problem solved.

Siskuwihane

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On Jan 15, 1:26 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:

> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> fucking stupid:
>
> 1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg-- this ad depicts the 50s

> or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> stinkin car insurance

Geico, incorporated in 1936 as Government Employees Insurance Company

As the Geico caveman would say, "Next time, do a little research".

Daniel Carey

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In article <478cfadd$0$4952$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:

TiVo, dude... TiVo.

Daniel Carey

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Jan 15, 2008, 10:37:14 PM1/15/08
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In article <srhi-3D55FB.2...@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
Shawn Hirn <sr...@comcast.net> wrote:

TiVo.

TomAl...@newshosting.com

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On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <Daniel...@comcast.net> wrote:

> TiVo, dude... TiVo.

And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.

Don Klipstein

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Jan 16, 2008, 1:47:30 AM1/16/08
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In <john-4570D5.1...@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, John A.
Weeks III wrote:

<SNIP previously quoted material to edit for space>

>Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
>(1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
>There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
>watch commercials do so by choice as a result.

I would dispute the easiness of skipping commercials, since I find it
to require effort on my part to view/hear broadcast material with any
delay from broadcast time.

As a result, I am lately hating "broadcast" in general as well as the
bottom-feeders that advertize on broadcast radio stations more than
anywhere else. I also hate paid "radio" services such as Sirius and XM,
since I heard one of these (DISCLAIMER - I could have been offended by
someone other than either of these named ones) playing a song that I love
and detected as being played offspeed-fast as is often done on
free-broadcast.

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Don Klipstein

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In <478d4a56$0$22636$4c36...@roadrunner.com>, Anthony Matonak wrote:
>Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>> John A. Weeks III wrote:
>...
>>> Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
>>> (1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
>>> There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
>>> watch commercials do so by choice as a result.
>>
>> Not everyone has the luxury of being able to skip commercials. I am one
>> of these unfortunate ones. When I am watching an excellent show or movie
>> and it is interrupted by crap like those Geico ads, it really irritates
>> me.
>
>It's still your choice to be irritated by the ads. You have many
>choices and only one of them is to sit there and take it.
>
>The best choice is simply to not watch TV. This is going to get
>easier here in the United States since they won't be showing
>any shows requiring writing.

I do damned little TV watching. I am a junkie of internet and Usenet
and I watch broadcast TV mainly when expecting local news, weather stuff,
or people looking attractive by wearing long dresses (sadly on my part, I
find that done awfully exclusively by the gender that I am
less-sexually-attracted to).

>If you have a computer that's fast enough (700Mhz?) you could spend
>$25 or so for a TV card and turn it into your own personal video
>recorder. This would let you skip commercials.

Time requirement! I would rather dissociate myself from broadcast
poop that gives me any requirement or incentive to sanitize such poop!

>Netflix (or other DVD rentals) are another option. They put out a
>lot of TV shows on DVD these days. Get together with a bunch of your
>friends to circulate the videos and share the costs.

I value movies low enough to not bother. Probably because to the extent
that I am a junkie for free or low-cost content, I do well enough by being
an internet junkie and a Usenet junkie.

>VCRs are another option. You can pick these up used pretty cheap
>because no one wants them anymore. You can also pick up lots of
>old VHS movies pretty cheap too. Heck, it's quite likely you can
>find old VCRs and tapes for free.
>
>Then there are books. These can be found for free at most libraries
>and online at places like the Internet Archive and Project Gutenberg.
>Libraries are increasingly carrying DVDs, books on tape and old time
>radio shows also. If you have broadband then you can download and
>watch TV, movies and radio shows on your computer.

Old time radio shows sound slightly attractive to me. Otherwise my
being a junkie is Usenet and the internet in general, though I have
respect for better-known "classical works".

>Lastly, there is the age old option of pressing 'mute' on your
>remote (supposing you had one), going to the bathroom during the
>commercial breaks or going out to make a snack.

That would be something I would do bigtime if I had a broadcast radio
with a compatible remote control. For that matter, I find Philadelphia
area broadcast stations offering "better rock music" (my words) to be
above-average in giving more commercials!

>You can even combine these. Read a book during commercials. :)

What if I am on a job ot on duty in my nain day job? Limited to
broadcast!
What if I am on the road and driving a vehicle? Limited to either what
is receivable in the vehicle, or what the DJ or the orchestra in my brain
is good for playing! Since most of the time that I am driving a legally
recognized vehicle such vehicle is a bicycle, I am giving lower prospect
for good entertainment by "broadcast media" for5 music as I see the
"broadcast poop" being now. I also have a distaste for alternatives since
I know a paid alternative to play the "album version" of my favorite song
roughly 4% fast, as in a majority of a semitone in pitch.

- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Green Xenon [Radium]

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In article <478d9daa$0$5209$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
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What do you mean? Both Dish and Direct TV offer DVR service.
And for cable TV, the Motorola HD DVR does a very nice job.

Kim

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In article <john-423A62.0...@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,

John A. Weeks III <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> In article <478d9daa$0$5209$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> TomAl...@newshosting.com wrote:
>
> > On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <Daniel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > TiVo, dude... TiVo.
> >
> > And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.
>
> What do you mean? Both Dish and Direct TV offer DVR service.
> And for cable TV, the Motorola HD DVR does a very nice job.

For less than $200 and a spare computer, you can build your own.

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Hactar

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In article <Katjj.8076$s67.937@trndny05>,

Kim <darwinexcepti...@verizon.net> wrote:
> TomAl...@newshosting.com wrote:
> > On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <Daniel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > TiVo, dude... TiVo.
> >
> > And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.

Since it eventually goes to something which can be displayed on a TV,
you can use _some_ DVR, even if not a TiVo.

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On Jan 15, 10:26 am, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:

> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> fucking stupid:
>
> 1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg-- this ad depicts the 50s

> or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> stinkin car insurance
>
> 2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-b0wQzQ-0-- asshole celebrity

> "mashed potatoes woohoo!" Howd ya like some mashed potatoes up your
> stinky ass, you disheveled shithole?!
>
> There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
> able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
> there was no internet. That ad talks about some

OK, so people are getting murdered, raped, pillaged, plundered, kicked
out of their homes, and all kinds of nasty shit that you cannot
possibly imagine happening to them, and all you can think about are
the commercials. Me thinks you need to get your priorities straight.

BTW: I thought the commercials were funny.

ulti...@hotmail.com

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On Jan 17, 6:23 am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 15, 10:26 am, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> > Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> > fucking stupid:
>
> > 1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg--this ad depicts the 50s

> > or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> > stinkin car insurance
>
> > 2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-b0wQzQ-0--asshole celebrity

> > "mashed potatoes woohoo!" Howd ya like some mashed potatoes up your
> > stinky ass, you disheveled shithole?!
>
> > There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
> > able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
> > there was no internet. That ad talks about some
>
> OK, so people are getting murdered, raped, pillaged, plundered, kicked
> out of their homes, and all kinds of nasty shit that you cannot
> possibly imagine happening to them, and all you can think about are
> the commercials. Me thinks you need to get your priorities straight.
>
> BTW: I thought the commercials were funny.

BTW: I am enjoying a big box of deserts loaded with DSNDSRBCNRBCs as
we speak.

ulti...@hotmail.com

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On Jan 15, 3:39 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:

> John A. Weeks III wrote:
>
> > In article <478d3ad3$0$28185$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > TomAldr...@newshosting.com wrote:

>
> >> On 15-Jan-2008, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
> >> I'm just sick and tired of seeing the fuckin ads all the time.
>
> > Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. You see the GEICO ads because
> > (1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
> > There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
> > watch commercials do so by choice as a result.
>
> > -john-
>
> Not everyone has the luxury of being able to skip commercials. I am one
> of these unfortunate ones. When I am watching an excellent show or movie
> and it is interrupted by crap like those Geico ads, it really irritates me.

I watch very little tee vee nowadays anyway, so I am not real
bothered by advertisements in general.

*****HOWEVER*****

If an ad shows something gross (like a dog eating peanut butter with
amplified slurping sounds in the background, or somebody barfing their
guts out) THEN I will get pissed. In fact, when I am eating, and such
an ad is running, I keep the TV off which prevents me from seeing
other commercials as well.

Some ads should NEVER be produced, and they end up hurting other
companies due to viewers keeping their tee vee off to avoid the
offending ad during mealtime.

Boothbay

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On Jan 17, 9:27 am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 17, 6:23 am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 10:26 am, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> > > Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> > > fucking stupid:
>
> > > 1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg--thisad depicts the 50s

> > > or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> > > stinkin car insurance
>
> > > 2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-b0wQzQ-0--assholecelebrity
> > > "mashed potatoes woohoo!" Howd ya like some mashed potatoes up your
> > > stinky ass, you disheveled shithole?!
>
> > > There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
> > > able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
> > > there was no internet. That ad talks about some
>
> > OK, so people are getting murdered, raped, pillaged, plundered, kicked
> > out of their homes, and all kinds of nasty shit that you cannot
> > possibly imagine happening to them, and all you can think about are
> > the commercials. Me thinks you need to get your priorities straight.
>
> > BTW: I thought the commercials were funny.
>
> BTW: I am enjoying a big box of deserts loaded with DSNDSRBCNRBCs as
> we speak.

I never thought that I would be using my remote as often as I have. I
thought the benefit would be more for changing channels...but mute
seems to be taking over most of my movements on it. The old man's
voice on Empire's flooring, the cockney of Geico and that so called
fat idiot doing a 'gene kelly' dance movement in selling a car..anyone
who can jump like that over a car without breaking one's neck is a
miracle. It was so phoney.

Kris Baker

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"Boothbay" <harri...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:cf6f27ad-a152-4a74...@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>
> I never thought that I would be using my remote as often as I have. I
> thought the benefit would be more for changing channels...but mute
> seems to be taking over most of my movements on it. The old man's
> voice on Empire's flooring, the cockney of Geico and that so called
> fat idiot doing a 'gene kelly' dance movement in selling a car..anyone
> who can jump like that over a car without breaking one's neck is a
> miracle. It was so phoney.

Gene Kelly?

What are you, 100 years old? It's a take-off on "Flashdance".

Bermuda999

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Jan 17, 2008, 12:44:24 PM1/17/08
to
On Jan 17, 9:34�am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 15, 3:39 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > John A. Weeks III wrote:
>
> > > In article <478d3ad3$0$28185$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > �TomAldr...@newshosting.com wrote:
>
> > >> On 15-Jan-2008, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
> > >> I'm just sick and tired of seeing the fuckin ads all the time.
>
> > > Cool, a "yellow dog" posting. �You see the GEICO ads because
> > > (1) the ads work very well, and (2) you choose to see them.
> > > There are easy ways to skip commercials, and those that still
> > > watch commercials do so by choice as a result.
>
> > > -john-
>
> > Not everyone has the luxury of being able to skip commercials. I am one
> > of these unfortunate ones. When I am watching an excellent show or movie
> > and it is interrupted by crap like those Geico ads, it really irritates me.
>
> �I watch very little tee vee nowadays anyway, so I am not real
> bothered by advertisements in general.
>
> *****HOWEVER*****
>
> �If an ad shows something gross (like a dog eating peanut butter with
> amplified slurping sounds in the background, or somebody barfing their
> guts out) THEN I will get pissed.


Could you point out the commercial which shows someone barfing their
guts out?

David Johnston

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:23:53 -0800 (PST), ulti...@hotmail.com wrote:


>> There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
>> able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
>> there was no internet. That ad talks about some
>
>OK, so people are getting murdered, raped, pillaged, plundered, kicked
>out of their homes, and all kinds of nasty shit that you cannot
>possibly imagine happening to them,

I'd be pretty annoyed if I had to see that too. Fortunately, I don't.

Green Xenon [Radium]

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You be annoyed? I'd be so scared, I'd dissociate. I'd pass out and need
an ambulance.

Mental energy can hurt the physical body at times.

Ut'n Ch'

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Jan 18, 2008, 12:08:22 AM1/18/08
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On Jan 17, 8:36 am, Boothbay <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 9:27 am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 6:23 am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 15, 10:26 am, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Fuck geico's piece of shit ads.
>
> > > > Here are examples of geico ads which I fucking hate because they are so
> > > > fucking stupid:
>
> > > > 1.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg--thisaddepicts the 50s

> > > > or before when [obviously] there was no such thing as geico or their
> > > > stinkin car insurance
>
> > > > 2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-b0wQzQ-0--assholecelebrity
> > > > "mashed potatoes woohoo!" Howd ya like some mashed potatoes up your
> > > > stinky ass, you disheveled shithole?!
>
> > > > There is also another geico ad that I hate with a passion which I wasn't
> > > > able to find. It's a black and white ad depicting the old days when
> > > > there was no internet. That ad talks about some
>
> > > OK, so people are getting murdered, raped, pillaged, plundered, kicked
> > > out of their homes, and all kinds of nasty shit that you cannot
> > > possibly imagine happening to them, and all you can think about are
> > > the commercials. Me thinks you need to get your priorities straight.
>
> > > BTW: I thought the commercials were funny.
>
> > BTW: I am enjoying a big box of deserts loaded with DSNDSRBCNRBCs as
> > we speak.
>
> I never thought that I would be using my remote as often as I have. I
> thought the benefit would be more for changing channels...but mute
> seems to be taking over most of my movements on it. The old man's
> voice on Empire's flooring, the cockney of Geico and that so called
> fat idiot doing a 'gene kelly' dance movement in selling a car..anyone
> who can jump like that over a car without breaking one's neck is a
> miracle. It was so phoney.

"Gene Kelly"?????
He invented The Robot?

Ut'n Ch'

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Jan 18, 2008, 12:09:29 AM1/18/08
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On Jan 17, 8:46 pm, "Green Xenon [Radium]" <gluceg...@excite.com>
wrote:
> David Johnston wrote:

Body is the scar of the mind, Yoko.

Green Xenon [Radium]

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Jan 20, 2008, 5:59:10 PM1/20/08
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go to show that there was at once a growth of
healthy moral sentiment created among the Chinese, through Sir John
Smale's endeavor, that promised much good for the future had his
course of action been continued. This official planted his feet
squarely upon the doctrine that all buying and selling of human beings
was slavery, and that a human being cannot, in law, "become a slave,
even by his own consent." And moreover this official, with Governor
Hennessey's encouragement, prosecuted his cases without any tender
consideration as to the demands of European libertines, who would be
left with scant opportunities to be self-indulgent unless slaves were
placed at their disposal. The truth is, from the foreign standpoint,
the plea for brothel slavery was based upon the "necessity" of vice,
and from the Chinese standpoint the plea for slavery was based upon
so-called Chinese "custom." The Government was impressed that it must
have consideration for the demands of libertines, and consideration
for Chinese "custom." Neither of these arguments has any worth when
applied to the slave conditions of California, and therefore the most
serious, baffling obstacles to a removal of the evil are out of the
way. Both pretexts, we maintain, were false. There is no necessity for
furnishing vice to libertines; there was no lawful Chinese custom to
be opposed in opposing brothel slavery. But even if these were claimed
to be sufficient arguments across the water, they have no force in
California. There are women, alas! willing to make a trade of their
virtue for _their own gain_, without forcing Chinese women to make a
trade of their virtue for _the gain of masters_. As to Chinese custom:
America is not setting forth inducements for the Chinese to come and
live in our midst, as did Sir Charles Elliott when he promised the
Chinese the privilege of practicing their own social and religious
rites and customs, "pending Her Majesty's pleasure." If Chinese or any

David Johnston

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Jan 20, 2008, 4:39:30 PM1/20/08
to
I would go
at once, and he brought me. I am very glad to live here and lead a
good life."

No. 3. The rescuer was requested to meet a girl at the corner of
Stockton and Jackson streets. She did so. K---- Y---- was comely
and refined looking. She had been sold into a brothel at a tender
age. When about 22 she met a young Chinese man who wished to marry
her, and he paid down $600 for her, promising $1,400 more in time.
Another man objected to the sale, because the girl had mortgaged
herself to him for $600. Through the Mission the girl was released
from her bondage, and remained at the Mission one year and then
married the first man, and they left San Francisco and resided for
a time in an inland town. Here an effort was made to kill her in
her own garden one evening. Her husband brought her back to San
Francisco, and later she went back to China.

No. 4. Came from a brothel on Spofford alley. She was occasionally
allowed to attend the (Chinese) theatre. One evening when at the
theatre she had word conveyed to the Mission to come get her
immediately. The rescuer did so, and the girl promptly arose, when
the rescuer entered the room, from the front tier of seats, and
seizing the hand of the missionary in the presence of them
all climbed over t


Kris Baker

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Jan 20, 2008, 5:59:45 PM1/20/08
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lies great peril to American
womanhood. Whether we wish it to be so or not,--whether we perceive
from the first that it is so or not, there is a solidarity of
womanhood that men and women must reckon with. The man who wrongs
another's daughter perceives afterwards that he wronged his own
daughter thereby. We cannot, without sin against humanity, ask the
scoffer's question, "Am I my sister's keeper?"--not even concerning
the poorest and meanest foreign woman, for the reason that _she is
our sister_. The conditions that surround the Hong Kong slave girl in
California are bound in time to have their influence upon the social,
legal and moral status of all California women, and later of all
American womanhood.

In considering the life history of the Chinese woman living in our
Chinatowns in America, therefore, we are studying matters of vital
importance to us. And in order to a clear understanding of the matter,
we must go back to the beginning of the slave-trade which has brought
these women to the West.

Four points on the south coast of China are of especial interest to
us, b


Kim

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Jan 20, 2008, 3:36:50 PM1/20/08
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houses for the detention of
kidnaped people." They declare that these

"inveigle virtuous women or girls to come to Hong Kong, at first
deceiving them by the promise of finding them employment (as
domestic servants), and then proceeding to compel them by force
to become prostitutes, or exporting them to a foreign port, or
distribute them by sale over the different ports of China, boys
being sold to become adopted children, girls being sold to be
trained for prostitution." "Your petitioners are of opinion
that such wicked people are to be found belonging to any of the
[neighboring] districts, but in our district of Tung Kun such
cases of kidnaping are comparatively frequent, and all the
merchants of Hong Kong, without exception, are expressing their
annoyance."

Accompanying the petition was a statement of the situation:

"Hong Kong is the emporium and thoroughfare of all the neighboring
ports. Therefore these kidnapers frequent Hong Kong much, it being
a place where it is easy to buy and to sell, and where effective
means are at hand to make good a speedy escape. Now, the laws
of Hong Kong being based on the principle of the liberty of the
person, the kidnapers take advantage of this to further their own
plans. Thus they use with their victims honeyed speeches, and give
them trifling profits, or they use threats and stern words, all in
order to induce them to say they are willing to do so and so. Even
if they are confronted with witnesses it is difficult to show up
their wicked game.... Kidnaping is a crime to be found everwhere,
but there is no place where it is more rife than at Hong Kong....
Now it is proposed to publish everywhere offers of reward to track
such kidnapers and have them arrested.... The crimes of kidnaping
are increasing from day to day."

Thi


John A. Weeks III

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Jan 20, 2008, 4:32:41 PM1/20/08
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in the
way of the working of the Ordinance; and the Government having, at a
very early stage, determined that its efficacy 'should have a fair
trial,' it doubtless received it at all hands."

During the ten years this law was in operation, there were 411
prosecutions, of which 140 were convictions for keeping unregistered
houses, or houses outside the prescribed bounds. Fines were inflicted
for these offenses and others, adding considerably to the amount
collected regularly each month from each registered house. The
Superintendent of Police, having refused to allow his force to operate
as inspectors of brothels, in 1860 the first inspector was appointed,
and he engaged an English policeman named Barnes to render services as
an informer. This man brought charges in two cases, as to unlicensed
(unregistered) brothels. The second case ended in acquittal,
manifestly on the ground that the charges were trumped up. In the same
year another inspector, Williams, acted as informer, and secured a
conviction against a woman. Later, an inspector by the name of Peam,
who succeeded Williams, employed police constables as informers, and
lent them money f


Don Klipstein

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Jan 20, 2008, 2:38:32 PM1/20/08
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a man with a horse
and wagon, we sprang in and were driven away to where we could
take the street cars for home. The child did some screaming and
crying, at first. But once we were seated in the street car, her
tears were dried and her little tongue rattled along at a rapid
rate; she was delighted to get away.

"The case was in court for some weeks, but the woman was afraid
to appear, and had no one to assist her but the lawyer, and as he
could not prove any good reason why the child should remain with
an immoral woman, we were given the guardianship."

No. 9. A young girl came to San Francisco from China as a
merchant's wife, and missionaries used to visit her at her home in
Chinatown. Once when they went they were told that the wife had
gone to San Jose, but she could not be traced at the latter place,
and the missionary was suspicious. A year passed, and one night
the door bell at the Mission rang, and when it was opened
a Chinese girl fell in a faint from exhaustion, across the
threshold. A colored girl stood by her holding her by the cue.
The colored girl said she saw her running, and divined where she
wished to go, and seizing her by the hair to prevent her being
dragged back, rushed her to the Mission. It was the merchant's
young wife. She had been confined in a brothel not two blocks from
the Mission, and often saw the missionary pass by, but had no
means of attracting her attention. The merchant told her one day
that he wished to take her to a cousin to learn a different way of
dressing her hair, and he would leave her there a day or two while
he was away from town on business. The young wife went without
fear, but never to return to virtue until she escaped to the
Mission. She was tied to a wind


Don Klipstein

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Jan 20, 2008, 4:24:51 PM1/20/08
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to public prostitution, are too patent facts
to require pointing out."

"The moment we examine closely into Chinese slavery and
servitude," declares Dr. Eitel, "from the standpoint of history
and sociology, we find that slavery and servitude have, with
the exception of the system of eunuchs, lost all barbaric and
revolting features." (!) "As this organism has had its certain
natural evolution, it will as certainly undergo in due time a
natural dissolution, which in fact has at more than one point
already set in. But no legislative or executive measures taken in
Hong Kong will hasten this process, which follows its own course
and its own laws laid down by a wise Providence which happily
overrules for the good all that is evil in the world."

There was, indeed, a certain justice in defending the Chinese as
against the foreigner, on Dr. Eitel's part. But two wrongs do not make
a right. From this time onward, the word of sophistry is put in
the mouth of the advocate of domestic slavery, just as the word of
sophistry had been put in the mouth of the advocate of the Contagious
Diseases Ordinance. Mr. Labouchere had spoken of the latter as a means
of protection' for the poor slaves, and the expression, 'protection,'
has been kept prominently to the front ever since Dr. Eitel suggested,
likewise, not a change in the conditions, but a change in the name by
which they were known. Let it be called 'domestic _servitude_' instead
of 'domestic _slavery_.' All the advocates of this domestic slavery
from that time have called the noxious weed by the sweeter name.

Governor Hennessey asked the opinion of others of his officials. One
Acting Police Magistrate replied 'When the servant girls (or slaves
girls, as some prefer to term them) in the families in this Colony are
contented with their lot, and their parents do not claim them, the
police


TomAl...@newshosting.com

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Jan 20, 2008, 3:21:02 PM1/20/08
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their life ... They frequently
know neither father nor mother, except what they call a
pocket-mother,--that is, the woman who bought them from others ...
They are owned in Macao and Canton. They are bought as infants.
They come to Hong Kong at 13 or 14, and are deflowered at a
special price which goes to the owners. The owner gets the whole
of their earnings, and even gets presents given to the girls, who
are allowed three or four dollars a month pocket-money. When some
of the girls are sent away on account of age, new ones are got
from Canton. If these girls are not slaves in every sense of the
word, there is no such thing as slavery in existence. If this
buying and selling for the purpose of training female children up
for this life is not slave-dealing, then never was such a thing
as slave-dealing in this world. There are 18,000 to 20,000
prostitutes in Hong Kong to 4,000 or 5,000 respectable Chinese
women.... Once in five years the stock has to be renewed. It is
for this purpose, and not for the legiti


Daniel Carey

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Jan 20, 2008, 2:28:38 PM1/20/08
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the
family relations of any kidnaped person, who would see to such persons
being restored to their families upon guarantee being given for proper
treatment; and in cases where restoration was impossible or not
advisable, they would take charge of such kidnaped persons, maintain
them, and eventually see them respectably married. It was then decided
that the Magistrates present should draw up a succinct statement of
the provisions of the British law forbidding the sale of persons and
guaranteeing the liberty of the subject, which should be translated
into Chinese, and circulated freely in the neighboring districts.

Although the action on the part of the Chinese merchants in forming
themselves into an organization to put down kidnaping was received
with much appreciation by the Governor and Secretary of State at
London, as well as by many of the officials at Hon' Kong, there were
those who from the first doubted whether the motives of the Chinese in
thus uniting were wholly disinterested on the part of the majority.
Such were confirmed in their doubts by the action of these same
Chinese as soon as Sir John Smale set to work in earnest to
exterminate slavery, and declared in his court a year later than the
formation of this Chinese Society:

"I was given to understand that buying children by respectable
Chinamen as servants was according to Chinese customs, and that to
attempt to put it down would be to arouse the prejudices of the
Chinese.... Humanity is of


Daniel Carey

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Jan 20, 2008, 2:45:46 PM1/20/08
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given over to it. "Flower-boats" were probably never unknown to
this river, but, besides their use as brothels, they became stocked
with little girls under training for vice, under the incitement of an
ever-growing slave trade. These little girls were bought, stolen or
enticed from the mainland by these river people, to swell the number
of their own children destined to the infamous slave trade. Chinese
law forbids this kind of slavery, but, as we have seen, the Tanka
people were sort of outlaws, the river life facilitated such a
business, and Hong Kong was near at hand.

In later years Dr. Eitel, Chinese interpreter to the Governor, stated:

"Almost every so-called 'protected woman,' i.e. kept mistress of
foreigners here, belongs to the Tanka tribe, looked down upon and kept
at a distance by all the other Chinese classes. It is among these
Tanka women, and especially under the protection of these 'protected'
Tanka women, that private prostitution and the sale of girls for
concubinage flourishes, being looked upon as a legitimate profession.
Consequently, almost every 'protected woman' keeps a nursery of
purchased children or a few servant girls who are being reared with
a view to their eventual disposal, according to their personal
qualifications, either among foreigners here as kept women, or among
Chinese residents as their concubines, or to be sold for export to
Singapore, San Francisco, or Australia. Those 'protected women,'
moreover, generally act as 'protectors' each to a few other Tanka
women who live by sly prostitution."

When once a man enters the service of Satan he is generally pressed
along into it to lengths he did not at first intend to go. So it
proved in the case of many foreigners at Hong Kong. The foreigner
extended his "protection" to a native mistress. That "protected woman"
extended his name as "protector" over the inmates of her secret
brothel; and into that house protected largely from official
interference, purchased and kidnaped gir


Shawn Hirn

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Jan 20, 2008, 5:47:56 PM1/20/08
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in her need of money sold me. Took me to
Hong Kong and sold me to a woman; saw the money paid, but do not
know how much; it looked a great deal. This was 3 years ago. The
woman promised my mother to make me her own daughter, and little
did my mother know I was to be a slave, to be beaten and abused by
a cruel mistress. My mother cried when she left me; it was very
hard to part. The big ship, 'City of Pekin,' took me soon out of
sight. I have heard that she is now dead. On arriving we did not
come ashore immediately. I was landed after 4 days. There was
trouble in landing me. I had a red paper, bought at Hong Kong,
that they called a certificate, and there was trouble about it.
The woman who bought me had no trouble getting ashore because she
had lived in California before. She told me what I was to say when
I was questioned. She told me I must swear I was her own daughter.
The Judge asked, 'Is this your own mother?' and I said, 'Yes.'
This was a lie, but I did not know it was wrong to do as I was
told, and I was afraid of my mistress. The Judge said, 'Did this
woman give you birth?' and I said, 'Yes.' The Judge said, 'Did
anybody tell you to say all this?" and I said, 'No,' because my
mistress had instructed me how to answer this question, if it was
asked me. She taught me on ship-board what to say if I was taken
to cour


Joel Olson

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Jan 20, 2008, 5:59:06 PM1/20/08
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One of our party asking
her if she could sing, she thought the statement was made that she
was not 'sixteen' (the age under which girls are supposed to be
'protected' from going into prostitution by British rule), and
shouted, 'I am _seventeen_.' We stayed only a few minutes, but
were informed that they provided opium and intoxicating liquors
here."

We told our hostess one day that we desired jinrikshas that we might
be conveyed to the Protectorate to interview the Chief Inspector,
having heard that he desired an interview. As we were leaving the
house she detained us a moment to say, timidly: "Ladies, do pardon me,
but I feel I must caution you that that man has a very violent temper,
and it will not do in case you see anything, to criticise,--no matter
what you think. I don't wish to seem to intrude, but I know the man's
reputation as to temper, and I cannot bear to think of his having a
chance to treat you rudely." We thanked her heartily, and promised to
be doubly careful.

We knew the place. A very imposing Government building standing apart
by itself, upon which much money had been expended to give it a fine
appearance. We were soon ushered into the presence of the man who held
the same relation to the work at Singapore that John Lee holds, or at
least held the last we knew, at Hong Kong. Will you believe us, when
we tell you that to our amazement it was that same white-haired old
man to whom we had been introduced at the church gathering as such an
active Christian, "working along much the same lines as ourselves, and
at the head and front of every good work in the Colony?" To be sure we
had heard the name of this Inspector, but we had never in our remotest
conception connected it with the man the Doctor had introduced to us.
Conce


Unique

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has
sheltered itself under its wing, as it were; and lastly, at Singapore
coolie labor is managed by the same set of officials. What these
officials have done has been accepted by the Oriental people about
them as done by the Christian civilization. It cannot be said that the
evils mentioned above have been the outgrowth of Oriental conditions
and customs, principally. It has been rather the misfortune of
the Orient that there were brought to their borders by Western
civilization elements calculated to induce their criminal classes to
ally themselves with these aggressive and stronger "Christians" to
destroy safeguards which had been heretofore sufficient, for the most
part, to conserve Chinese social morality.

Christian people, even as far back as Sir John Bowring, Governor
of Hong Kong, and up to the present time, both at Hong Kong and
Singapore, have acquiesced in the false teaching that vice cannot be
put under check in the Orient, where, it is claimed, passion mounts
higher than in the Occident, and that morality is, to a certain
extent, a matter of climate; and in the presence of large numbers of
unmarried soldiers and sailors it is simply "impracticable" to attempt
repressive measures in dealing with social vice. These Christians
have listened


Anthony Matonak

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Jan 20, 2008, 2:18:04 PM1/20/08
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Oh, that men really gloried in such self-sacrifice, and
held it forth as the worthiest principle of life! Did Sir John Bowring
hold aloft such a Cross as this, and, with his Master, recommend it
to the world as the means of its elevation and emancipation from the
blight of sin? We shall not judge him individually. His example should
be a warning to the fact that even the most religious men can too
often hold very different views of life according to whether they are
embodied in religious sentiments or in one's politics. But nowhere are
right moral conceptions more needed (not in hymn-book nor in church),
as in the enactments by which one's fellow-beings are governed. Other
religious men not so conspicuous as Sir John Bowring, but of more
enlightened days than his, have died and left on earth a testimony to
strangely divergent views and principles, according to whether they
were crystallized in religious sentiments, or in the laws of the land,
and according to whether they legislated for men or for women.

On May 2nd, 1856, Sir John Bowring, Governor of Hong Kong, wrote to
the Secretary of State for the Colonies at London submitting a draft
of an Ordinance which was desired at Hong Kong because of certain
conditions prevailing at Hong Kong which were described in the
enclosures in his despatch. Mr. Labouchere, the Secretary of State for
the Colonies at the time, replied to the Governor's rep


John A. Weeks III

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UNITED STATES
17 STRUGGLES FOR FREEDOM
18 PERILS AND REMEDIES


CHAPTER 1.

THE EARLY DAYS OF HONG KONG.


Time was when so-called Christian civilization seemed able to send its
vices abroad and keep its virtues at home. When men went by long
sea voyages to the far East in sailing vessels, in the interests of
conquest or commerce, and fell victims to their environments and weak
wills, far removed from the restraints of religious influences, and
from the possibility of exposure and disgrace in wrongdoing, they
lived with the prospect before them, not always unfulfilled, of
returning to home and to virtue to die.

That day has passed forever. With the invention of steam as a
locomotive power of great velocity, with the introduction of the
cable, and later, the wireless telegraphy; with the mastery of these
natural forces and their introduction in every part of the world, we
see the old world being drawn nearer and nearer to us by ten thousand
invisible cords of commercial interests, until shortly, probably
within the lifetime of you and me, the once worn out and almost
stranded wreck will be found quickened with new life and moored
alongside us. The Orient is already feeling the thrill of renewed
life. It is responding to the touch of the youth and vigor of the
West and becoming rejuvenated; it is drawing closer and close


Green Xenon [Radium]

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relations of kindred and friendship all up and down the Canton
river, and the business of the preparation of slave girls for the
foreigners and for foreign markets (as the trade expanded) gradually
extended backwards up the Canton river, until many of its boats were
almost given over to it. "Flower-boats" were probably never unknown to

John A. Weeks III

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bought and sold, aged 11 years, is a very intelligent
child, and described the negotiations for her sale with great
clearness."

The Chief Justice then went on to repeat the little girl's testimony
as to these "brokers of mankind," and the child's knowledge, from
personal observation of these purchases and sales, to which he adds:

"Let me here ask, Is the trade, or rather profession, 'broker of
mankind,' also a sacred China custom? I will not ask the queries
which would naturally arise in case the question were answered in
the affirmative. At present, however, I must say that, custom
or no custom, the practice of this profession is prohibited by
statute, and it is my duty to meet its exercise by punishment."

The prisoner was sentenced to two years' penal servitude. The Chief
Justice concluded his remarks on that occasion by replying to the
statements made in the Chinese petition.

He called attention to the Chinese resting their claim on the
temporary promise of Governor Elliott in 1841; of the fact that
they ignored the proclamation of the Queen in 1845. He said that
infanticide was also a Chinese custom in the same sense that slavery
was, on the words of the petition:

"Amongst the Chinese there has hitherto been the custom of
drowning their daughters. The Chinese threaten the increase of
this 'custom' of drowning children if their sale is put down....
I can only say that in case father, mother, or relative were
convicted of infanticide, Chinese custom would be no protection,
and, unless I am grievously mistaken, the presiding judge would
have no alternative but to sentence the perpetrator to death ...
the one custom is tolerated just as the other custom is tolerated,
and both alike or neither must be claimed as sanctioned


Joel Olson

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lest He say to us: "Ye have not hearkened unto Me, in proclaiming
liberty, everyone to his brother, and every man to his neighbor;
behold, I proclaim a liberty unto you, saith the Lord, to the sword
and to the pestilence and to the famine."

From the first days of the enactment of this measure, and all the way
through until 1877, the inspectors of brothels had standing orders to
enter any native house that they suspected of containing any women
of loose character, and arrest its inmates in accordance with the
following plan: The inspector would secure an accomplice, called an
informer, or often more than one. The accomplice would enter a native
house plentifully supplied with marked money out of the Secret Service
Fund. This accomplice was often a friend or relative of the family he
called upon. He would often offer them a feast and drinks, and send
to a near-by restaurant and procure them at Government expense. After
feasting and drinking, he would try to induce some woman of the house
to consort with him, showing her a sufficient sum of money to fairly
dazzle her eyes. This he could well afford to do, for the Government
put the money in his hands to offer, and if the woman accepted, it
would not be a loss to the Government, for it would be taken back
again afterwards. Perhaps some poor half-starved creature would yield
to the tempter; perhaps some heathen man would press his wife to
accept the offer, in his greed for the money; perhaps some foolish
young girl would think she had suddenly come into great fortune in
having a man of such great wealth proposing marriage to her. It must
not be forgotten that the poorest people in China often marry in
a manner which is _almost devoid of all ceremony_, and yet it is
considered perfectly right and honorable, and the couple remain
faithful to each other afterwards. It is not unlikely, then, a young
wom


TomAl...@newshosting.com

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's view that laws securing the
freedom of the women were to be executed, whatever the result to the
brothel system. He wrote in reply as though Sir John Smale had said
many things that had not been put in the same light, demanded to know
what law could be put into operation to improve conditions, and wished
to know if Sir John Smale accepted Dr. Eitel's views on "domestic
servitude," and later he wrote pronouncing the views expressed in the
insolent attack of Mr. O'Malley upon Sir John Smale's anti-slavery
pronouncements as "well considered and convincing." He also referred
to the "humane intentions" of Mr. Labouchere in the passing of the
Contagious Diseases Ordinance of Sir John Bowring's time, which "were
intended to ameliorate the condition of the women." But it does not so
much concern us what the officials in London did and said, excepting
at the one point, namely, that they did not at this time back the
noble efforts of the Governor and of Sir John Smale to put down
slavery, and so rendered it practically impossible for them to
accomplish what they wished to do. The replies from Sir John Smale
are, however, of much value to us, as throwing light upon social
conditions at Hong Kong. On August 26, 1880, Sir John Smale replied in
a letter meant for the Secretary of State at London, but sent in due
form to the Colonial Secretary at Hong Kong for forwarding:

"My observations in Court arose out of cases of kidnaping;
and, according to the practices of judges in England, in their
addresses to the Grand Juries, and on sentencin


Green Xenon [Radium]

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example should
be a warning to the fact that even the most religious men can too
often hold very different views of life according to whether they are
embodied in religious sentiments or in one's politics. But nowhere are
right moral conceptions more needed (not in hymn-book nor in church),
as in the enactments by which one's fellow-beings are governed. Other
religious men not so conspicuous as Sir John Bowring, but of more
enlightened days than his, have died and left on earth a testimony to
strangely divergent views and principles, according to whether they
were crystallized in religious sentiments, or in the laws of the land,
and according to whether they legislated for men or for women.

On May 2nd, 1856, Sir John Bowring, Governor of Hong Kong, wrote to
the Secretary of State for the Colonies at London submitting a draft
of an Ordinance which was desired at Hong Kong because of certain
conditions prevailing at Hong Kong which were described in the
enclosures in his despatch. Mr. Labouchere, the Secretary of State for

the Colonies at the time, replied to the Governor's representations
in the following language: "The Colonial Government has not, I think,
attached sufficient weight to the very grave fact that in a British
Colony large numbers of women should be held in practical slavery for
the purpos


Green Xenon [Radium]

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On Jan 20, 6:43 pm, "Ut'n Ch'" <LidsvilleN...@embarqmail.com> wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/683b805ebf918faf :

> How did you manage to slip through triage?


Meaning?

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