Some say 'Knowledge is power'... and a way to make a living.
phil scott
Knowledge is indeed power, thats what I have sought..(and
capability)..and its been what power I have, and it has withstood many
challenges... it comes through.
The culture broadly however, especially lately forfeits knowledge for
a job, or investment, cash or whatever... and that too is power, but
of an entirely different sort. One can be deprived of it.
Cash, assets or position is a weak sort of power, and when knowledge
or integrity or insight is forfeited for it ....the result is a net
weakness... when the money or position goes the person has no-thing,
and the self is in a diminished circumstance due to no understanding,
or worse having swallowed deception... the person has no contribution
to make the larger whole... or worse his contribution is negative,
various forms of insanity etc.
Real power is insight, understanding, and when capability are added to
that mix, it is true viability.... and it lends viability to others..
and that expands.
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Errors can be made in the viability aspect by failure to match ones
insight with his capability.
For example is you are an engineer and become a tradesman you get a
fairly good match of insight and capability.. or even better if you
can operate as an engineer.
If you move to pet grooming you loose the benefit.. the power is
lost.. you will be competing against powerless people with no insight
or capability in a starvation sort of market.
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It seems then that understanding is a prerequisite to a good life, and
all else of actual validity follows that.... this is true it seems
even if riches are sacrificed in the process.
Phil scott
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> That prompted the following.
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> For example is you are an engineer and become a tradesman you get a
> fairly good match of insight and capability.. or even better if you
> can operate as an engineer.
dh is an engineer; what trade do you suggest he learn? :-)
phil scott
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> "phil scott" <p...@philscott.net> wrote in message
I am a mech engr.. work for us got spotty as hell starting in 99...
one hit a year on a resume that used to get hundreds, and several
offers a year...so I did handyman work and got
an electrical and hvac contractors lic as I promoted my own freelance
engineering.
that has worked out well.
not easy though.
lacking the handyman work then later contracting Id of starved to
death.
the engineering background helps a lot with that type of work.
Phil scott
phil scott
its up to him mon.
Trades by hourly rate in order:
Electrical controls, industrial, programmable,,PLC's etc pays $120++
per hour free lance... 50 or 60 dollars for a wage position. You have
to be sharp. (about half my work these days)
Electrical contracting ...industrial pays 75+ per hour.. thats just
wiring and simple motor controls
Home wiring a lot less, can bottom out in the 40 dollar range free
lance.
for mech engrs.
HVAC commcl ind, service pays 95+.. but its hard work.
Residential hvac a lot less 75 or less
handyman work in homes pays about 50 dollars an hour.
thats anything ... fixing sinks, fences, doors and toilets
Those are west coast rates... lower as you go inland, bottom is in
Florida, parts of texas and california not much better... (inland
areas) (rates are less than a third of california's best locations.
(coastal areas, SF, LA, Portland etc)
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Marketing most efficient by Craigs list and also cold calling
businesses
with a card or sticker... 8 hours of cold calling will produce about
400
dollars of work directly arranged that day, and about 2,000 on average
over
the next month or so.
Cold calling one day a week for a few months will have you flush with
more work than
you and two helpers can do.... those stats will go south some as the
economy tanks.
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Engineering in this area on a wage pays between 25 dollars and 40
dollars an hour with the 40 dollar jobs getting scarce fast unless you
are established manager.. not too many of those
these days, they max at about 60 dollars an hour average... rare
specialties higher of course.
those are 10-12 hours per day jobs if you count the hour wasted for
lunch and time it takes to
put on the monkey suit properly and drive to work. (with trade work
you bill for the travel time).
Phil scott
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not easy though.
yeah, dh is really handy with electrical, plumbing, carpentry, older cars
(new fangled things almost always have to be brought to a mechanic these
days), small engines sorta stuff
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> "phil scott" <p...@philscott.net> wrote in message
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> That prompted the following.
>
> snip
>
> > For example is you are an engineer and become a tradesman you get a
> > fairly good match of insight and capability.. or even better if you
> > can operate as an engineer.
>
> dh is an engineer; what trade do you suggest he learn? :-)
its up to him mon.
Trades by hourly rate in order:
Electrical controls, industrial, programmable,,PLC's etc pays $120++
per hour free lance... 50 or 60 dollars for a wage position. You have
to be sharp. (about half my work these days)
Electrical contracting ...industrial pays 75+ per hour.. thats just
wiring and simple motor controls
Home wiring a lot less, can bottom out in the 40 dollar range free
lance.
he's a broadcast engineer, but was an electronics tech in the navy, so
he's well versed in both computers and electrical.
for mech engrs.
HVAC commcl ind, service pays 95+.. but its hard work.
Residential hvac a lot less 75 or less
oldest son did a/c, but is now self employed with division
8 commercial installations. still does a little a/c on the side
to keep up.
handyman work in homes pays about 50 dollars an hour.
thats anything ... fixing sinks, fences, doors and toilets
that's dh.
Those are west coast rates... lower as you go inland, bottom is in
Florida, parts of texas and california not much better... (inland
areas) (rates are less than a third of california's best locations.
(coastal areas, SF, LA, Portland etc)
pa and sc
**
Marketing most efficient by Craigs list and also cold calling
businesses
with a card or sticker... 8 hours of cold calling will produce about
400
dollars of work directly arranged that day, and about 2,000 on average
over
the next month or so.
Cold calling one day a week for a few months will have you flush with
more work than
you and two helpers can do.... those stats will go south some as the
economy tanks.
***
Engineering in this area on a wage pays between 25 dollars and 40
dollars an hour with the 40 dollar jobs getting scarce fast unless you
are established manager.. not too many of those
these days, they max at about 60 dollars an hour average... rare
specialties higher of course.
those are 10-12 hours per day jobs if you count the hour wasted for
lunch and time it takes to
put on the monkey suit properly and drive to work. (with trade work
you bill for the travel time).
you really are an engineer, aren't you? they tend to be extremely
focused, which is a good thing :)
Phil scott
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well thanks for all this stuff. i'll hang onto it for when dh is done
playing tv.
phil scott
yes, Im an ME with digital controls capability. Its not going badly
lately, it was earlier. I had to learn a new game plan. Shortly I
believe the economy is going to go
utterly south.. then it will pay to know all the angles and have
staged to optimize them.
That approach might keep a good man in steaks or at least the
occasional hamburger... if
overhead is low also.
I dont think
many folks have fathomed just how deep a hole we are in
economically..its a world stage
now, the work is moved to china etc.. not a lot in the US relative to
the talent available...
in order to compete in a world market those rates are going down, ..as
the dollar is worth
less and less. double trouble...
search youtube and google for 'prime mortgage loan trouble'... etc.
thats already double from last year 11% or so deliquent..and projected
to triple in the next few months...that pressure will take out a lot
of retail and food sales etc.. a domino effect.
Yes focus is a good thing in some ways, it deprives a person of much
human sensitivity though and that is not a good thing at all.
Phil scott
Rod Speed
> yes, Im an ME with digital controls capability. Its not going
> badly lately, it was earlier. I had to learn a new game plan.
> Shortly I believe the economy is going to go utterly south..
More fool you.
> then it will pay to know all the angles and have staged to optimize them.
That wont help you if it really does.
> That approach might keep a good man in steaks or at
> least the occasional hamburger... if overhead is low also.
You wont starve even if the worst does happen.
> I dont think many folks have fathomed just how deep a hole we are in economically..
The US isnt even in a technical recession.
> its a world stage now, the work is moved to china etc..
Plenty of it never can.
> not a lot in the US relative to the talent available...
Have fun explaining how come virtually every single full commercialisation
of new technology happens there first, and has continued to do that.
> in order to compete in a world market those rates are going down,
> ..as the dollar is worth less and less. double trouble...
A sagging dollar HELPS exports, stupid.
> search youtube and google for 'prime mortgage loan trouble'... etc.
Just because some fools claim it doesnt make it gospel.
The US survived the great depression and can survive another just as easily.
In fact the impact would be much less severe than that one was, just
because the welfare safetynet is so much more effective than it was then.
> thats already double from last year 11% or so deliquent..
The S&L fiasco was survived fine, and so will this fiasco too.
> and projected to triple in the next few months...
Anyone can pluck numbers out of their arse.
> that pressure will take out a lot of retail and food sales etc..
Nope. The bulk of them will just hand over the keys and carry on regardless.
The holders of the mortgages will certainly have some
problems, but depositors funds are federally guaranteed.
> a domino effect.
We've survived plenty of those in the past and will do so again.
> Yes focus is a good thing in some ways, it deprives a person of
> much human sensitivity though and that is not a good thing at all.
Wrong again.
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i've fathomed it. actually fathomed it 15-20 yrs ago. but dh is an
ostrich, and has steadfastly refused to pay attention.
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