Palin splurgin' on $2,500 silk jackets and other high fashion
Val N. Teenow
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/gossip/pagesix/sarah_has_secret_style_team_129403.htm
SARAH HAS SECRET STYLE TEAM
September 17, 2008 -- HOCKEY mom Sarah Palin not only wore lipstick to the
Republican National Convention, the vice-presidential candidate wore a
shantung silk Valentino jacket worth $2,500.
PHOTOS: A Look at Palin's Style
Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who dress
her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
designed by Valentino Garavani.
Palin, shunning the pantsuits favored by Hillary Clinton, wore the top
during her first big speech, where she told McCain's delegates: "I was just
your average hockey mom, and signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make
my kids' public education better."
But she's springing for designer labels. One source familiar with Palin's
primping posse told us, "They do not want the American public to know that
Palin is using stylists or that she is paying for expensive clothes this
early on in the campaign."
We spoke to someone on Palin's styling team, who told us, "I did a little
bit of personal styling, but I can't discuss anything I've done with Sarah
Palin. I'm not sure which designs she wore . . . anything related to
working with her is confidential."
Presidential nominee John McCain's wife, Cindy, recently took some heat
after Vanity Fair itemized the cost of her wardrobe during her RNC speech
with Laura Bush to a whopping $300,000 worth of designer wear and diamonds.
A representative for Valentino confirmed Palin wore one of his designs
during her convention speech, but said she did not buy it from a Valentino
store. Palin's reps had no comment.
timeOday
> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
charliekilo
news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzV...@comcast.com...
> Val N. Teenow wrote:
>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
$125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a production
manager in the oil field and add his professional fisherman income...they
probably have at least a $275,000 annual income, no state income tax and a
low cost of living...I can easily see how she could splurge on a $2500
jacket.
Dano
You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems just a tad
extravagent to this middle class voter...but a "low cost of living"? In
Alaska? Really? You think?
Gumby
> charliekilo wrote:
> > "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
> >news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzV...@comcast.com...
> >> Val N. Teenow wrote:
> >>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> >> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>
> > Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
> > $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
> > production manager in the oil field and add his professional
> > fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
> > income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
> > see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>
> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems just a tad
> extravagent to this middle class voter
You're not a woman, obviously. Saks, Nordstrom, etc. normally sell
silk jackets for well above $2,000. Lots of people buy them; even
those who are not filthy rich.
charliekilo
news:aOCdnY8cf55-xEzV...@comcast.com...
$2500 bucks for a jacket...for one of the biggest events in your life
doesn't seem too extravagant to me. My wife and I together make a little
more than they do, we live well within our means, and while my wife doesn't
have a $2500 jacket she does have several $2500 suits and a whole bunch of
purses in the $1000 range (*That* seems extravagant to me. lol!). As for
cost of living, compared to my domicile in Austin, TX, Wasilla, AK seems
cheap -- at least housing costs.
Rich Hutnik
There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made a
political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of clothes
that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his wife's
wardrobe. How about competency be the issue, rather than whether or
not the candidate is "like us"? Eating a baloney sandwich like Dubya
does isn't a measure for how good of a president they will be.
- Rich
Dennis
Absolutely inane question. Duh!
I don't have a dog in this fight -- I don't support Obama/Biden or
McCain/Palin. But I love the way that Palin has the shellshocked Dems
and the sycophant media scrambling to discredit her. What a great
move by the McCain campaign!
Best of all, I get to sit back and laugh at the petty ridiculousness
exhibited by both sides!
Deja vu -- it would be great if we had a presidential election that
offered more than Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
Dano
Thank goodness my wife isn't one of them. See this is what we're talking
about in regards to the inequity of wealth and the burden of taxation. IMO,
anyone with the disposable income available for that type of discretionary
spending should be ashamed to whine about taxes.
Dano
Congratulations on your wealth and success. I hope you aren't one of those
whining about and voting primarily on your taxes being raised or lowered.
I'll just add, I don't consider our family to be under-privileged in any
way...though we would appear to make far less than you...half as much I'm
guessing. I guarantee my wife NEVER spent over 2 grand on any garment. I
don't believe her wedding gown cost that. We were fortunate that we could
piece together a down payment for a home.
lorad
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
BS...
Here's how Palin pays for her bubble head fashion statements - she
uses taxpayer money:
"Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office
-- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent
opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in
city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish
expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to
Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds
to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization. "
"I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who
had run as a budget cutter," said Carney. "It was also illegal,
because Sarah had not received the council's approval."
According to Carney, Palin's office makeover included flocked, red
wallpaper. "It looked like a bordello."
Although Carney says he no longer has documentation of the
expenditures, in his recollection Palin paid for the office face-lift
with money from a city highway fund that was used to plow snow, grade
roads and fill potholes -- essential municipal services, particularly
in weather-battered Alaska.
Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was
shocked by her response.
"I braced her about it," he said. "I told her it was against the law
to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote.
She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts
tell me I can't.'"
"I'll never forget it -- it's one of the few times in my life I've
been speechless," Carney added. "It would have been easier for her to
finesse it. She had the votes on the council by then, she controlled
it. But she just pushed forward. That's Sarah. She just has no respect
for rules and regulations."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/index.html
Gumby
You tell 'em, komrade!
clams_casino
Plus they receive that $3269 x 7 = $22,883 welfare check from the
state of AK from the excess profits tax on oil.
Of course, that money would normally be used for state expenditures
but AK gets $5 back from the federal government for each dollar they
send in federal income taxes, which actually gets borrowed from China.
So who is picking up the tab? Your children will, eventually.
znuybv
No way. That wouldn't even get you into an Obama fund raiser.
$28,000 plus another $2,500 to here Babs sing.
Save your money. Vote for Palin.
clams_casino
And as the Republican party is explaining it, Sarah represents a typical
middle class working woman with children.
Is there any doubt these people are completely out of touch?
clams_casino
>There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made a
>political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of clothes
>that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his wife's
>wardrobe. How about competency be the issue, rather than whether or
>not the candidate is "like us"?
>
Except She and McCain are making a big issue that the Palin family is a
typical middle class family.
Hmm - Someone is obviously way out of touch with reality.
Thanatos
"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> charliekilo wrote:
> > $2500 bucks for a jacket...for one of the biggest events in your life
> > doesn't seem too extravagant to me. My wife and I together make a
> > little more than they do, we live well within our means, and while my
> > wife doesn't have a $2500 jacket she does have several $2500 suits
> > and a whole bunch of purses in the $1000 range (*That* seems
> > extravagant to me. lol!). As for cost of living, compared to my
> > domicile in Austin, TX, Wasilla, AK seems cheap -- at least housing
> > costs.
>
> Congratulations on your wealth and success.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Why do liberals always treat those
who have achieved something in life like pariahs?
Dano
Really? Better start taking those Mandarin lessons now, so you're ready
when our Chinese loan officers decide to foreclose on the loans the
Republicans have used to finance these foreign adventures they so love to
get us involved in, but won't ask us to pay for.
Joe
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
yep, just an average hockey mom or so the spin goes.
clams_casino
She's entitled to her wealth. I'm sure she earns it.
In this case, however, it's blatant hypocrisy.
RU12?
Yeah, and that elitist Obama had the nerve to pay off his tuition
assistance loans. Who is he trying to impress.
Ed Stasiak
>
> Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who dress
> her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
> GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
> Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
> designed by Valentino Garavani.
Unlike Mahatma Obama, who no doubt weaves his own cloth....
awthr...@gmail.com
> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
B. Insane Obama bought a house for $1.6 million with the help of a now-
convicted felon who coughed up $625,000 to cement the deal.
But he couldn't spare an extra $10 for his brother who lives on a
dollar a month.
Dano
"Dennis M" <denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
news:dennism3-ya0240800...@News.Individual.NET...
> In article
> <41996ee6-205a-4bb4...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>, Gumby
Ha! Let 'em wear silk. :-)
Dano
"znuybv" <thow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f8aaf39-fbf9-4eaa...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Nice swerve. Oooohhh...Obama throws expensive fund raisers. Just like
every other presidential candidate in modern history...why McCain/Palin just
had one very recently too. What does that prove?
hchi...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I think it obvious that the Tweedle's intend to remain in control.
The financial situation is just too engrossing for me to pay much
attention to any of the four mouthpieces. We all know that what is
being spewed now is just vote attracting posturing that has no
relationship with reality. "Thanks, but no thanks." It doesn't
matter much anyway, the real fate of the country for the next two
terms is being decided right now on Wall Street.
At the same time, the general public is distracted trying to imagine
which designer created Palin's moose shooting ensemble.
Rich Hutnik
> In article
> <0f328d0c-c591-4713-89ab-1f9af18b2...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> richardhut...@gmail.com says...
Maybe I should banish myself and be done with it. I am reminded of
this quote from the movie "Gladiator" in regards to this "He is an
Elitist" drivel:
Gracchus: I don't pretend to be a man of the people. But I do try to
be a man for the people.
Need less pretending to be "of the people" and more being "for the
people".
- Rich
Rich Hutnik
> In article
>
> Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made a
> >political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of clothes
> >that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his wife's
> >wardrobe.
>
> Republican leaders, because they're being hypocritical.
How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
tax dollars is another issue.
- Rich
Rich Hutnik
And, supposedly Edwards haircut was brought up because he made a "big
issue of how he was for he poor". As I said, I wish Edward's haircut
wasn't brought up. It does make every personal garment and beauty
treatment a political issue.
- Rich
2nz
> "znuybv" <thowil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It proves that they are full of shit when they say Dems don't
appreciate successful people.
ayatollah obama
> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
compared to what the cunt piglosi has run up in deficit for this
year.... that would buy Sarah 1,600,000,000
scarves!
Job well done DemonCraps!
Dano
Her money is derived from tax dollars. But that isn't the point. The point
is she pretends to be just a regular, small town, hockey mom. I've known a
lot of hockey (and soccer, and baseball, and football) moms. I've yet to
meet one who spends 2,500 bucks on a designer jacket. Or hundreds of
thousands like Cindy McCain for that matter. These people are the wealthy
elite...not the regular folk they would like their naive followers to
believe.
NA
<5aaefc69-0e47-46ad...@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Rich Hutnik <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And, supposedly Edwards haircut was brought up because he made a "big
> issue of how he was for he poor". As I said, I wish Edward's haircut
> wasn't brought up. It does make every personal garment and beauty
> treatment a political issue.
>
> - Rich
that is stupid. If he is rich it would be in his best interest to
support the rich like republicans do. Supporting the poor goes against
his best interest.
clams_casino
>
>
>compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
>year.
>
>
>
Bush and Cheney died? I missed that. When did she become president?
trotsky
It is a bad thing if you are trying to make glittering statements about
how you're going to help the working class.
Thanatos
"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rich Hutnik wrote:
> > How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
> > tax dollars is another issue.
> >
>
> Her money is derived from tax dollars.
What? Are you saying that people who work for any level of government
anywhere don't have the same right to spend their salaries however they
wish as people who work in the private sector do?
trotsky
Oh, can I take this one? I think when she used the words "hockey mom"
she was claiming she was just part of the "regular folks" who don't make
purchases that would be deemed absurd by people for whom money is always
an issue. It's pretentious and hypocritical, and you are either too
motherfucking stupid to see this, or you are trying to pick the low
hanging fruit of posts that aren't very well thought out. Try me, you
sanctimonious piece of shit.
trotsky
Ed, that sounds like sarcasm. Obama recently managed to pay off his
student loans--why are you afraid of him for being normal? Honestly,
you sound like you're scared shitless.
clams_casino
Depends. I is that tax dollars as received by working? Or tax dollars
received as a welfare check?
Could Sarah afford that $2500 top if the Palin family did not receive
their $22K welfare check?
clams_casino
>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:12:56 -0400, clams_casino
><PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>Hmm - Someone is obviously way out of touch with reality.
>>
>>
>hmmm looked in a mirror recently?
>__________________________________________
>
>
I don't pretend to be middle class. I'm grateful for the opportunities
I've been provided to be where I am.
With a family income of about $250k plus a $22k welfare check from the
state of AK (essentially paid for by federal funds borrowed from China),
the Palin family is obviously NOT a typical middle class family, as she
is claiming.
clouddreamer
Yup. Obama didn't have a rich daddy to pay for everything.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
clams_casino
>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:08:10 -0400, clams_casino
><PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Plus they receive that $3269 x 7 = $22,883 welfare check from the
>>state of AK from the excess profits tax on oil.
>>
>>Of course, that money would normally be used for state expenditures
>>but AK gets $5 back from the federal government for each dollar they
>>send in federal income taxes, which actually gets borrowed from China.
>>
>>So who is picking up the tab? Your children will, eventually.
>>
>>
>welfare check? I always thought that you weren't too bright and this
>confirms it. The monies returned to alaskans are SURPLUSES, and it
>isn't a bad idea, when government raises too much money from taxes it
>should return the excess to the taxpayers. you liberloons are too
>funny
>__________________________________________
>
>
What part of receiving government aid do not not consider welfare? In
this case, they are taking most from the federal government, which by
the way, hasn't had a surplus in over seven years.
What part of income distribution from the federal coffer do you not
consider to be welfare?
AK receives $5 from the federal government aid for every dollar
collected in Federal income taxes. Without that income
redistristribution, AK would not be able to provide their welfare checks.
charliekilo
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Come to my town (Austin, TX) and I guarantee you that you'll find a LOT of
:soccer/baseball/football moms that own $2000+ jackets, purses, dresses,
etc... especially in certain parts of town. It's not all that
unusual...seriously.
charliekilo
news:%kqAk.14740$Dj1....@newsfe01.iad...
Congress *spends* the money -- back to civics class for you!
cake_and_...@yahoo.com
> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/gossip/pagesix/sarah_has_secret_...
>
> SARAH HAS SECRET STYLE TEAM
>
> September 17, 2008 -- HOCKEY mom Sarah Palin not only wore lipstick to the
> Republican National Convention, the vice-presidential candidate wore a
> shantung silk Valentino jacket worth $2,500.
>
> PHOTOS: A Look at Palin's Style
>
> her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
> GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
> Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
> designed by Valentino Garavani.
>
> during her first big speech, where she told McCain's delegates: "I was just
> your average hockey mom, and signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make
> my kids' public education better."
>
> But she's springing for designer labels. One source familiar with Palin's
> primping posse told us, "They do not want the American public to know that
> Palin is using stylists or that she is paying for expensive clothes this
> early on in the campaign."
>
> We spoke to someone on Palin's styling team, who told us, "I did a little
> bit of personal styling, but I can't discuss anything I've done with Sarah
> Palin. I'm not sure which designs she wore . . . anything related to
> working with her is confidential."
>
> Presidential nominee John McCain's wife, Cindy, recently took some heat
> after Vanity Fair itemized the cost of her wardrobe during her RNC speech
> with Laura Bush to a whopping $300,000 worth of designer wear and diamonds.
>
> A representative for Valentino confirmed Palin wore one of his designs
> during her convention speech, but said she did not buy it from a Valentino
> store. Palin's reps had no comment.
Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
priorities are.
cake_and_...@yahoo.com
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>
> news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzV...@comcast.com...
>
> >> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
>
> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
> $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a production
> manager in the oil field and add his professional fisherman income...they
> probably have at least a $275,000 annual income, no state income tax and a
> low cost of living...I can easily see how she could splurge on a $2500
> jacket.
Yet still keep her daughter Bristol in blue jeans? Oh, that's right -
she's a Republican, after all.
clouddreamer
I know a lot of soccer/hockey moms...I've yet to see any of them wearing
anything that costs more than a grand...let alone two.
I guess there's a difference when the soccer mom is from Beverly Hills
and Harlem.
If Palin pretends to represent the vast vast majority of soccer moms,
she's not doing well to be wearing something that could feed a family of
four for months.
Dano
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:08:10 -0400, clams_casino
> <PeterG...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Plus they receive that $3269 x 7 = $22,883 welfare check from the
>> state of AK from the excess profits tax on oil.
>>
>> Of course, that money would normally be used for state expenditures
>> but AK gets $5 back from the federal government for each dollar
>> they send in federal income taxes, which actually gets borrowed
>> from China.
>>
>> So who is picking up the tab? Your children will, eventually.
> welfare check? I always thought that you weren't too bright and this
> confirms it. The monies returned to alaskans are SURPLUSES, and it
> isn't a bad idea, when government raises too much money from taxes it
> should return the excess to the taxpayers. you liberloons are too
> funny
> __________________________________________
state with 600,000 residents received in two years? Guess again
genius...she gave her residents OUR fucking money! No wonder they love her.
Moron.
clouddreamer
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:05:04 -0230, clouddreamer
> <Clim...@nge.is.real> wrote:
>
>
>> If Palin pretends to represent the vast vast majority of soccer moms,
>> she's not doing well to be wearing something that could feed a family of
>> four for months.
> ordinary soccer mom anymore, she's running for national office and she
> is not preening anymore than any of the other candidates, find a more
> substantial issue to harp about ..
>
> __________________________________________
> Never argue with an idiot.
> They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
I'll take your advice. Last thing I need is to be dragged down to your
level.
<plonk>
Dano
Not at all. Just that I resent the charade that they are just regular
folks...you know...just ordinary soccer...excuse me...hockey moms. Please.
You can put a 2,500 dollar jacket on an "ordinary" mom...but then she's in
hock up to her ass.
Dano
I have no interest in visiting Austin. I can go to many tony suburbs and
sections of Boston and find rich folks too. That's not the point. But you
know that.
clouddreamer
> In article <-JWdndySO8WQ-k_V...@supernews.com>
> clouddreamer <Clim...@nge.is.real> wrote:
>
> So what?
>
>
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> reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
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clams_casino
Your point? It'll take more than 18 months (and a new president) to
reverse the trend set by the Bush policies.
Thanatos
"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanatos wrote:
> > In article <I--dnYpXAZYVakzV...@comcast.com>,
> > "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Rich Hutnik wrote:
> >
> >>> How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
> >>> tax dollars is another issue.
> >> Her money is derived from tax dollars.
> >
> > What? Are you saying that people who work for any level of government
> > anywhere don't have the same right to spend their salaries however
> > they wish as people who work in the private sector do?
>
> Not at all.
Then why would you suggest that the paychecks government workers receive
are "tax dollars"?
They aren't. The salaries are paid *with* tax dollars but the moment the
check is issued, the money stops being tax dollars and becomes the sole
property of the person who earned it, just as it does with any other job.
Dano
<Nothing of any import.>
Since you choose to snip all relevant portions of my response, you
demonstrate that you are unworthy of any further consideration. PLONK.
Cindy Hamilton
> Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
> much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
> jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
> priorities are.
Bristol is a teenager. Is there any evidence that she doesn't want to
wear blue jeans? My mother could hardly crowbar me out of mine
and into a dress, and that was a long time ago when we had standards.
Cindy Hamilton
Dano
Oh. So you're saying the Palins haver no standards.
But then...I mean...it's not like a special event or anything...why dress
up...just because mom buys that designer jacket. Besides...we don't
know...those jeans might have cost a grand.
ayatollah obama
> ayatollah obama wrote:
>
> >compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
> >year.
>
> Bush and Cheney died? I missed that. When did she become president?
you must have FAILED American history,
Let he help fill the void between your ears... The House of
Representatives controls all money spent. Who controls the House?????
guessed the answer yet dumbass??? hint, her last name starts with
Piglosi, and her first name starts with CUNT.
Know that you have had a refresher course in American History, who is
resposible for the $400 Billion deficit????
I'll wait for the answer
clams_casino
Guess you need a long answer.
Primarily the Republican controlled congress of 2000-2006 and GW
leadership of 2000 to date.
A narrowly majority Democratically controlled congress has only been
around for 20 months. During their first year, they are supplied a
budget by the prior congress / president, so for the first 12 months,
they have little no effect on the spending.
The primary reason the deficit is so large is that unemployment is high
- primarily a direct result of the Bush leadership and the excess
borrowing (and interest on that debt) that GW required for his tax
rebates & war in Iraq.
I'm not sure if GW's Iraq war costs are included in that $400B as they
may be "off line".
Now explain how you think the $400 deficit is due to the speaker of the
house?
ayatollah obama
>
> - Show quoted text -
you are apparently in need of some remedial education as well.... who
paid for the private school that obamaramadingdong went to in
Hawaii???? Punaho currently costs $20K+ a year to go there
ayatollah obama
wrote:
> charliekilo wrote:
> >"clams_casino" <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
??? wtf are you talking about??? spending money??? that could've
occured on the first DemonCrap budget had piglosi wanted to??? other
than that, Do you really think that Klinton kept any of Bush/Reagan,
or that W kept any of klintons policies other than the ones we were
bound to by treaty?
alohacyberian
> >If Palin pretends to represent the vast vast majority of soccer moms,
> >she's not doing well to be wearing something that could feed a family of
> >four for months.
>
> ordinary soccer mom anymore, she's running for national office and she
> is not preening anymore than any of the other candidates, find a more
> substantial issue to harp about ..
>
> __________________________________________
> Never argue with an idiot.
> They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
No she's the mother of a bastard, drug addict son, a high-school drop-
out whore and the lover of Brad Hanson.
Check out the stains on her blue suit.
ayatollah obama
>
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Absolutely it is her fault. The President submitts a budget request.
The House can accept the parts it wants, ignore the parts it wants,
add parts that it wants, and change parts it wants to.
I give piglosi a pass on lasts years for the most part since it was
primarily a Republican budget, but even then they added to the deficit
with their own spending bills... that one wound up being a $161
Billion deficit.
This budget deficit, to this point, is $400 Billion with another month
to go, and it is COMPLETELY Piglosi's. Now you can try to pass it off
on Bush since he signed the legislation, and maybe the Senate becuase
they also passed it.
This year the Senate (Republicans) filibustered an additional $400
Billion in spending. And next years budget deficit is expected to be
$800 Billion.
Thanatos
"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanatos wrote:
> > > Not at all.
> Since you choose to snip all relevant portions of my
> response, you demonstrate that you are unworthy of any
> further consideration. PLONK.
And another coward runs away...
trotsky
Did I miss your response to my post, fagmo?
trotsky
Are any of them as slutty as Palin?
i_hate...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Ummm... Cindy? You really think blue jeans were/are that good
looking?
And I guess by your reference to "when we had standards" that none of
the 17 year old girls in your school were getting preggers,
right: :)
alohacyberian
Val N. Teenow wrote:
> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
>
>
> http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/gossip/pagesix/sarah_has_secret_style_team_129403.htm
>
>
>
> SARAH HAS SECRET STYLE TEAM
>
>
>
> September 17, 2008 -- HOCKEY mom Sarah Palin not only wore lipstick to the
> Republican National Convention, the vice-presidential candidate wore a
> shantung silk Valentino jacket worth $2,500.
>
> PHOTOS: A Look at Palin's Style
>
> Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who dress
> her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
> GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
> Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
> designed by Valentino Garavani.
>
> Palin, shunning the pantsuits favored by Hillary Clinton, wore the top
> during her first big speech, where she told McCain's delegates: "I was just
> your average hockey mom, and signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make
> my kids' public education better."
>
> But she's springing for designer labels. One source familiar with Palin's
> primping posse told us, "They do not want the American public to know that
> Palin is using stylists or that she is paying for expensive clothes this
> early on in the campaign."
>
> We spoke to someone on Palin's styling team, who told us, "I did a little
> bit of personal styling, but I can't discuss anything I've done with Sarah
> Palin. I'm not sure which designs she wore . . . anything related to
> working with her is confidential."
>
> Presidential nominee John McCain's wife, Cindy, recently took some heat
> after Vanity Fair itemized the cost of her wardrobe during her RNC speech
> with Laura Bush to a whopping $300,000 worth of designer wear and diamonds.
>
> A representative for Valentino confirmed Palin wore one of his designs
> during her convention speech, but said she did not buy it from a Valentino
> store. Palin's reps had no comment.
I could care less what she wears, but while America is withering I
find it strange she can't find an American designer. She's a creep.
Fabric from china, workmanship from a sweatshop in India, label from
Italy.
I'd say screw palin, but everybody already has.
alohacyberian
> > Val N. Teenow
>
> > Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who dress
> > her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
> > GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
> > Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
> > designed by Valentino Garavani.
>
Cindy Hamilton
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sep 18, 10:20 am, cake_and_eat_it_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
> >> much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
> >> jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
> >> priorities are.
>
> > Bristol is a teenager. Is there any evidence that she doesn't want to
> > wear blue jeans? My mother could hardly crowbar me out of mine
> > and into a dress, and that was a long time ago when we had standards.
>
> Oh. So you're saying the Palins haver no standards.
No, I'm saying that dress codes in general have relaxed quite a bit
since
I was a girl. I'm always amazed when I see what people wear to church
nowadays.
> But then...I mean...it's not like a special event or anything...why dress
> up...just because mom buys that designer jacket. Besides...we don't
> know...those jeans might have cost a grand.
They might have.
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton
> In article <0c4a1f9b-6902-4a49-a319-
> 3e30c2bd8...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
Ah, but I am a liberal. At least by your lights I probably am.
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton
> On Sep 18, 1:35 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 18, 10:20 am, cake_and_eat_it_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
> > > much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
> > > jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
> > > priorities are.
>
> > Bristol is a teenager. Is there any evidence that she doesn't want to
> > wear blue jeans? My mother could hardly crowbar me out of mine
> > and into a dress, and that was a long time ago when we had standards.
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Ummm... Cindy? You really think blue jeans were/are that good
> looking?
Depends on the girl. I know they didn't look that good on my fat
butt, but I was a tomboy and didn't care how I looked. I still don't
care very much, except that I be neat and clean and appropriately
dressed for the occasion. I spend most of my time in suits.
> And I guess by your reference to "when we had standards" that none of
> the 17 year old girls in your school were getting preggers,
> right: :)
I see by your smiley that you know the answer already: "Of course
they were."
In my day, however, pregnant girls were hustled out of sight, as if it
were
contagious or something.
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton
>
> - Show quoted text -
Are you aware that you make yourself look like a buffoon when you
mock and misspell people's names? One always assumes that such
a write has nothing of substance to say.
Cindy Hamilton
alohacyberian
inter.net> wrote:
> In article <3b190149-62cb-4b0e-be1f-
> 69fbde2e7...@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
No. My mother is a virgin and I'm the second coming. Idiot.
My mother would never send the savior off to war.
Rod Speed
> On Sep 18, 5:24 pm, ayatollah obama
> <osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 18, 11:03 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> charliekilo wrote:
>>>> "clams_casino" <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%kqAk.14740$Dj1....@newsfe01.iad...
>>
>>>>> ayatollah obama wrote:
>>
>>>>>> compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
>>>>>> year.
>>
>>>>> Bush and Cheney died? I missed that. When did she become
>>>>> president?
>>
>>>> Congress *spends* the money -- back to civics class for you!
>>
>>> Your point? It'll take more than 18 months (and a new president) to
>>> reverse the trend set by the Bush policies.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> ??? wtf are you talking about??? spending money??? that could've
>> occured on the first DemonCrap budget had piglosi wanted to??? other
>> than that, Do you really think that Klinton kept any of Bush/Reagan,
>> or that W kept any of klintons policies other than the ones we were
>> bound to by treaty?
> Are you aware that you make yourself look like a buffoon when you
> mock and misspell people's names? One always assumes that such
> a write has nothing of substance to say.
Silly assumption. Its just a style thing.
ayatollah obama
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cindy, I see by looking at your history that you do not post often. I
must appologize to you specifically if I have offended you in any way.
The alt.politics group is not a place for one who can get their
feelings hurt easily. 90% of the people who post here are hard core in
their beliefs, and nothing posted here will sway them either way. The
remaining 10% maybe, but even they are attacked to the core of their
beliefs, and quite often in a very harsh manner.
If you read this from some other group, than you can look back and see
which "individual" put the post on the incorrect group and let them
know accordingly.
Now, back to the fray!
znuybv
> "znuybv" <thowil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1f8aaf39-fbf9-4eaa...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 17, 12:26 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > charliekilo wrote:
> > > "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
> > >news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzV...@comcast.com...
> > >> Val N. Teenow wrote:
> > >>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
>
> > > Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
> > > $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
> > > production manager in the oil field and add his professional
> > > fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
> > > income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
> > > see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>
> > You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems just a
> tad
> > extravagent to this middle class voter...but a "low cost of living"? In
> > Alaska? Really? You think?
>
> No way. That wouldn't even get you into an Obama fund raiser.
> $28,000 plus another $2,500 to here Babs sing.
> Save your money. Vote for Palin.
>
> Nice swerve. Oooohhh...Obama throws expensive fund raisers. Just like
> every other presidential candidate in modern history...why McCain/Palin just
> had one very recently too. What does that prove?
What ever you want it to.
alohacyberian
>
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then and than, know the difference, popouse one?
Chief Thracian
And being homosexual is bad, how? Do explain.
For my amusement, if nothing else.
--
Steal This Blog!
http://www.gay-bible.org/steal
Topaz
The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
The Culture War:
Israel Line - Friday, June 10, 2005
Thousands Participate in Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv.
Thousands of people took to the streets of Tel Aviv this
afternoon to participate in the city's annual gay pride parade,
HA'ARETZ reported. The parade set out from Rabin Square and was to end
in Yarkon Park, where musical performances were planned.
MKs Yosef Lapid (Shinui), Eitan Cabel (Labor) and Zehava Gal-On
(Yahad), as well as Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai, were set to speak at
the event.
The chairman of the national Association of Gay Men, Lesbians,
Bisexuals and Transgender in Israel, Mike Hamel, said today the parade
was organized with the "close cooperation" of the Tel Aviv
municipality. "It's great to see it, and great that it's one of the
few places in the world that has the support of a municipal body, a
government body," he said.
Hamel said the event is called a "pride parade," because it has
to do with "being proud of the way we are and the demand to accept
every person as a person, as he is, and not trying to change him."
Full story:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/586950.html
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http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1122-03.htm
Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct
NEW YORK - November 22 -
Iran's execution of two men last week for homosexual conduct
highlights a
pattern of persecution of gay men that stands in stark violation of
the rights
to life and privacy, Human Rights Watch said today. On Sunday,
November 13, the semi-official Tehran daily Kayhan reported that the
Iranian
government publicly hung two men, Mokhtar N. (24 years old) and Ali A.
(25 years old), in the Shahid Bahonar Square of the northern town of
Gorgan. The government reportedly executed the two men for the crime
of "lavat." Iran's shari'a-based penal code defines lavat as
penetrative and non-penetrative sexual acts between men. Iranian law
punishes all penetrative sexual acts between adult men with the death
penalty.
Non-penetrative sexual acts between men are punished with lashes until
the fourth offense, when they are punished with death…
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NEA, Gay Militants: Joined At The Hip
Lee Duigon
If a private citizen tells his neighbor's children that they ought to
try gay sex, he might wind up in a correctional facility. If he talks
that way to your 13-year-old son, you'll want him put away-pronto.
But when this very same behavior, toward the same children, is
displayed by adults who belong to America's biggest teachers' union,
most parents simply let them do it. In fact, they pay them to.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality. It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
Ms. Isaacson, according to the grass-roots Article 8 Alliance, these
days makes it a full-time job lobbying state legislators to keep them
from jumping ship on "gay marriage" and voting for the Bill of Address
which would remove the outlaw Supreme Judicial Court judges who
imposed this oxymoron on the people of Massachusetts. Supported by
taxpayers' money, she makes daily, face-to-face visits to individual
lawmakers. Nice work if you can get it.
Too bad you couldn't make it to the gym teachers' state convention in
New Jersey, in February. It wasn't about volleyball. For public school
gym teachers, Job One--according to the convention's floor displays,
handouts, posters, and workshop topics (all of which I saw
personally)--is getting the kids comfy with homosexuality. To this
end, they handed out a "resource guide"--handsomely produced, slick,
paid for largely by Fleet Bank
Inc.--intended for distribution in all the public schools. (For more
information, see my article, "Now It's the Gym Teachers," in the
February archive of the Chalcedon website, chalcedon.edu.)
You would have seen even more of the same at "Twenty Years of Great
Sex (Ed)" last year, a national conference of "sex educators" hosted
by Rutgers, New Jersey's taxpayer-funded state university. Again,
there was no effort to hide the educators' whole-hearted penchant for
homosexuality...
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
Ken Lay
jdoe <jd...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:20 -0000, "Val N. Teenow" <tee...@n.val>
> wrote:
>
> >Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
> >
> >
> what is it yours or anyone else's business what she spends on herself?
> as ling as it's her money being spent it's nobody's business.
> what a bunch of simpletons why are engaged by crap like this
Yeah, who cares how she spends Alaska's money? Those chumps voted her
in. Nobody held a gun to their heads. She should use her government
salary (including any graft) to do whatever she wants, milk baths,
diamond-encrusted plumbing fixtures or roomsful shoes like Imelda. It
was public money once, but it's hers now so fuck off before we come
after you.
--
Everybody lies. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney just suck at it.
Ken Lay
"charliekilo" <miles_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $2500 bucks for a jacket...for one of the biggest events in your life
> doesn't seem too extravagant to me. My wife and I together make a little
> more than they do, we live well within our means, and while my wife doesn't
> have a $2500 jacket she does have several $2500 suits and a whole bunch of
> purses in the $1000 range (*That* seems extravagant to me. lol!). As for
> cost of living, compared to my domicile in Austin, TX, Wasilla, AK seems
> cheap -- at least housing costs.
Then you are not middle class. Hopefully, you do not pretend to the
status. You are in the upper twenty-percentile of income earners in the
U.S., and anyone seeing how you live would likely not vote for you for
the quite justifiable fear that you would make policies to protect your
assets at the expense of the great majority beneath you.
The middle class might once have included those of your income, but
Republican policies have so narrowed the strata of middle income in this
nation, that you now exist among the elite, unless you like slumming
with your family.
Rod Speed
> charliekilo <miles_...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Dano <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> charliekilo wrote
>>>> timeOday <timeOda...@theknack.net> wrote
>>>>> Val N. Teenow wrote:
>>>>>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>>>> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>>>> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
>>>> $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
>>>> production manager in the oil field and add his professional
>>>> fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
>>>> income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
>>>> see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>>> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket
>>> seems just a tad extravagent to this middle class voter...but a
>>> "low cost of living"? In Alaska? Really? You think?
>> $2500 bucks for a jacket...for one of the biggest events in your life
>> doesn't seem too extravagant to me. My wife and I together make
>> a little more than they do, we live well within our means, and while
>> my wife doesn't have a $2500 jacket she does have several $2500
>> suits and a whole bunch of purses in the $1000 range (*That* seems
>> extravagant to me. lol!). As for cost of living, compared to my domicile
>> in Austin, TX, Wasilla, AK seems cheap -- at least housing costs.
> Then you are not middle class.
Wrong. That level of income isnt that uncommon with the upper
middle class, particularly with two professional higher paid incomes.
The rich arent rich on an earned income, they are rich otherwise.
> Hopefully, you do not pretend to the status. You are in the
> upper twenty-percentile of income earners in the U.S.,
Doesnt stop them being upper middle class.
> and anyone seeing how you live would likely not vote for you for
> the quite justifiable fear that you would make policies to protect
> your assets at the expense of the great majority beneath you.
Irrelevant to whether they are middle class or not.
> The middle class might once have included those of your income,
Still does. Particularly when its earned income.
> but Republican policies have so narrowed the strata of middle income in this nation,
Pig ignorant lie.
> that you now exist among the elite,
The upper 20% aint the elite and never have been.
> unless you like slumming with your family.
Thats not what the middle class is about.
psyber_o...@yahoo.com
> Val N. Teenow wrote:
> > Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
The nazi neocon machine, of course. Shows how out of touch she is
with middle America, let alone the poor.
Sarah Palin: unfit for duty!
psyber_o...@yahoo.com
<osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 5:47 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
> > >compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
> > >year.
>
> > Bush and Cheney died? I missed that. When did she become president?
>
>
> Let he help fill the void between your ears... The House of
> Representatives controls all money spent. Who controls the House?????
> guessed the answer yet dumbass??? hint, her last name starts with
> Piglosi, and her first name starts with CUNT.
>
> Know that you have had a refresher course in American History, who is
> resposible for the $400 Billion deficit????
>
> I'll wait for the answer
Bush signs all bills.
psyber_o...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> On Sep 18, 1:51 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sep 18, 10:20 am, cake_and_eat_it_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > >> Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
> > >> much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
> > >> jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
> > >> priorities are.
>
> > > Bristol is a teenager. Is there any evidence that she doesn't want to
> > > wear blue jeans? My mother could hardly crowbar me out of mine
> > > and into a dress, and that was a long time ago when we had standards.
>
> > Oh. So you're saying the Palins haver no standards.
>
> No, I'm saying that dress codes in general have relaxed quite a bit
> since
> I was a girl. I'm always amazed when I see what people wear to church
> nowadays.
You don't go to one of those churches, like Sarah Palin's, where they
think that war and death are ok, that the Iraq occupation was "a
calling from God", and that if another pipeline is paid for with
earmarked funds that it is "God's will", do you?
I'll wait for your response, to let you know why I ask those
questions.
Gumby
Why must she act poor? Shouldn't we have people to aspire to?
Gumby
<livin_la_vida_mo...@skilling.the.whipping.boy> wrote:
> In article <78g4d4p3198g57nm00f8tdbb6it52op...@4ax.com>,
>
> jdoe <j...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:20 -0000, "Val N. Teenow" <tee...@n.val>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> > what is it yours or anyone else's business what she spends on herself?
> > as ling as it's her money being spent it's nobody's business.
> > what a bunch of simpletons why are engaged by crap like this
>
> Yeah, who cares how she spends Alaska's money?
Except she's not; she's spending her own income.
clams_casino
But it's not AK's money. It's YOUR money. AK takes $5 in aid from the
federal government for each dollar they contribute in federal income
taxes. Without that federal aid, AK residents wouldn't receive their
welfare checks. (They might actually use their oil profit taxes on
state government expenditures rather than providing welfare for all it's
residents).