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TwoAllBeefPatties

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Sep 11, 2007, 5:00:15 PM9/11/07
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Looks like it may be a good idea to look into barter as a way to
stretch the dollar. Any opinions on barter being a viable solution for
people who have skills in demand? I view bartering as an underground
economy that the government would love to tax as much as anything
else. (Hey Rodspeed, keep out of this thread! You figure out how
economics works and then share some opinions. I knew you are reading
this. LOL )

Rod Speed

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Sep 11, 2007, 5:06:26 PM9/11/07
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TwoAllBeefPatties <kwo...@hotmail.com> wrote

> Looks like it may be a good idea to look into barter as a way to stretch the dollar.
> Any opinions on barter being a viable solution for people who have skills in demand?

Main problem is that while ever its well organised enough to
make it easy to get the skills you need in exchange for yours,
the govt is likely to crack down on it to get its taxes that are due.

> I view bartering as an underground economy that the
> government would love to tax as much as anything else.

Corse they do, and thats the main problem with it.

> Hey Rodspeed, keep out of this thread!

Go and fuck yourself, child.


OhioGuy

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Sep 11, 2007, 5:37:28 PM9/11/07
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The Amish who live near my parents have bartering down to a fine art.
Each family specializes in a different item. One family will raise sheep
(for lamb & wool), another will have apples, another chickens, yet another
cows. There will be dozens of different things that various families
specialize in. Then they will trade with each other, and in this way obtain
variety in their lives, without having to try to do a bit of everything.

I think Craigslist is a good place for bartering. You can list your
skills, and what you would like in trade.


Michael Black

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Sep 11, 2007, 5:56:01 PM9/11/07
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"OhioGuy" (no...@none.net) writes:
> The Amish who live near my parents have bartering down to a fine art.
> Each family specializes in a different item. One family will raise sheep
> (for lamb & wool), another will have apples, another chickens, yet another
> cows. There will be dozens of different things that various families
> specialize in. Then they will trade with each other, and in this way obtain
> variety in their lives, without having to try to do a bit of everything.
>
But isn't that more a direct thing, I will trade you my product for
your product.

The poster seems to be talking about something more like a bank, so
you do a deed, get points in the "bank", and then withdraw when you
need it, by taking those points to someone else who can use those
points for something they want.

That seems to be the trend, and it seems to reflect once again the
lives of people today. Instead of being connected to their neighbors
(and family and friends), where someone could offer their skill to
others around them, people now feel a need to create "money" for
all this, because they don't like real money.

Michael

Beeblebrox

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Sep 15, 2007, 9:13:55 AM9/15/07
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that's just a money system, without the physical currency.

George

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Sep 15, 2007, 10:00:51 AM9/15/07
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Beeblebrox wrote:

>>
>> But isn't that more a direct thing, I will trade you my product for
>> your product.
>>
>> The poster seems to be talking about something more like a bank, so
>> you do a deed, get points in the "bank", and then withdraw when you
>> need it, by taking those points to someone else who can use those
>> points for something they want.
>>
>> That seems to be the trend, and it seems to reflect once again the
>> lives of people today. Instead of being connected to their neighbors
>> (and family and friends), where someone could offer their skill to
>> others around them, people now feel a need to create "money" for
>> all this, because they don't like real money.
>> Michael
>
> that's just a money system, without the physical currency.

Exactly, I do remember where there were organized systems to do it so
that you got "credits" for performing a service etc. Some of the charm
went away when the government required that the organizations file
informational returns for taxation purposes since it is just another
money system.

George

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Sep 15, 2007, 10:08:44 AM9/15/07
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Michael Black wrote:

>
> That seems to be the trend, and it seems to reflect once again the
> lives of people today. Instead of being connected to their neighbors
> (and family and friends), where someone could offer their skill to
> others around them, people now feel a need to create "money" for
> all this, because they don't like real money.
>
> Michael

Or simply because some people don't "play nice" and take advantage of
people and ruin it for others.. I have been involved in a number of
situations where other parties never reciprocate. One guy I know got the
nickname "one way" because of this. He was constantly asking everyone to
help him and often benefiting from the help because he would sell items
that were being worked on. But it was nearly impossible to have him do
anything for you. Another guy would create scenarios where you were
supposedly helping him and he was actually billing others.

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